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Hello community!
I just wanted to see some input from you guys as far as what is your preferred anti-theft application for your Kaiser phone? There's a few applications out there, and the following is a short list of the most popular apps out there:
- WIMP (Where is my phone)
http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
- MobileJustice
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/03/02/mo...monitor-sim-card-changes-via-gps-coordinates/
- Sprite Terminator
http://spriteterminator.com/
Theres a few more out there, and I am curious as to see which one has the best options and capabilities. Some of them have GPS tracking systems, others can wipe all your information remotely, either way they have the potential to become real handy in extreme cases.
If anyone has a story to share where they used these applications in a real world situation please share it with the community as well!
Thanks
Sprite
I have tried Remoteprotect, and Ultimate theft before Sprite Terminator. Remoteprotect works great but no GPS and Ultimate theft would not shut off when tested. It keeps forwarding the text and its also a gimick you have to buy it in three separte sections. So I would recomend Sprite Terminator.
you can also try this on http://smartphonetracker.blogspot.com/
free and working.
I am also interested in installing one of these programs. Is there anyone who has tried more than one of them? Which do you recommend?
does anyone know if there is any possibility that we could implement the HP security system for there new ipaq phones into other WM phones?
something like what is explained in the end of this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4owrhyjxLeE&eurl=http://www.expansys-usa.com/video.aspx?id=636&i=157753
MODS. This thread should be in the general Kaiser forum....it would get more relevant views there I would think.
http://usa.kaspersky.com/products_services/antivirus-mobile.php
I personally like VITO FindMe (http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html) Free, get the activation code at the bottom of that page. NOTE: Since FindMe has an easily noticeable scrolling text, for the today screen, i like to hide it in an UltimateLaunch tab.
and MccMobileFinder (incase you loose the phone somewhere in your house, it will turn the phone volume up and play an alarm, http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1749)
pizzaguy said:
I personally like VITO FindMe (http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html) Free, get the activation code at the bottom of that page. NOTE: Since FindMe has an easily noticeable scrolling text, for the today screen, i like to hide it in an UltimateLaunch tab.
and MccMobileFinder (incase you loose the phone somewhere in your house, it will turn the phone volume up and play an alarm, http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1749)
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this is a nice app... i might give it a try. thanks
pizzaguy said:
I personally like VITO FindMe (http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html) Free, get the activation code at the bottom of that page. NOTE: Since FindMe has an easily noticeable scrolling text, for the today screen, i like to hide it in an UltimateLaunch tab
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Thats cool, I was thinking of looking for a program that did this. You cant be too careful .
The only downside I could think of if the sim gets yanked out you´re screwed - right? :S
How does it work, does it trigger a GPS connection every couple of minutes?
Jimmyy said:
Thats cool, I was thinking of looking for a program that did this. You cant be too careful .
The only downside I could think of if the sim gets yanked out you´re screwed - right? :S
How does it work, does it trigger a GPS connection every couple of minutes?
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yes i am also concerned for that aas well... but i remember reading up on one of those programs listed above that also works in the background even when the sim card get pulled out...
There was one I was looking at, don't remember the name now. Maybe it is one already listed. Anyway, you could go on the internet at any time and see on a map where your phone is, and if someone thought they were going to just take your SIM out and replace it with theirs the phone immediately sends you a text with the phone number of the new SIM card. I thought that was cool, because you would then know who was using your phone.
-Jay
This has got to be the best one....
http://www.evenbyte.com/?page=product&id=2
It will do as the others... but will also send you call history and sms logs from the users sim to you so you know whats been typed and called too..
maximono said:
you can also try this on http://smartphonetracker.blogspot.com/
free and working.
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Wow awesome! Thx for this! The only thing to find out is how to hide it, and cook it with settings into a ROM.
These are all great programs but.....
I had my 8125 stolen and the crook just did a hard reset and the recovery software was gone. Luckily the bad guys had other bad habits and the cops found them. They recovered my phone but it was totally wiped clear, had been reinstalled with new music but no tracking software.
Because not just heavy users know how to do a hard reset the thing that is missing is having the tracking software burned into the rom so it can't be erased. I know this is quite A challenge. But when and if that can be solve we will have a good tool to protect our Under perfoming HTC devices (could not help that last part)
Cook the app into a ROM isn't that hard i think (also i haven't cooked a ROM until now, but seen tutorials which explain how) and in case of smartphonetracker the settings are saved in "settings.config" so we need to cook in a file which 'simply' copys this file into the "Program File" folder. Doesn't sound too hard but the "simply copy.." is may the biggest problem.
For sure nearly everybody who visit this forum is capable of flashing a new ROM and therefore can avoid tracking. But the bit more security is worth the effort, in my opinion.
I still don't understand.
Let's assume some asshole and steals your phone. Why do they do with it?
Option A - Re-sale. Surely this shouldn't be possible as the original owner of the phone will contact the network and the IMEI will be blocked.
Option B - Access to Data. You're device is password protected (right?) so they need that to get into the phone via activesync. As long as they don't switch it off, it might not lock the screen so they'd have to leave your SIM in... but then they'd surely be intelligent (they want data after all) go to flight mode and it won't be able to dial home. And then there's the media card.... even encrypted it probably wouldn' be hard to bypass. Surely the best you can hope for is to send a message and have the phone kill itself.
Option C - Phoning <insert foreign country>. Same answer as A.
Result is, I do not see how this software can be of real use. The best thing that I can think about for this software is someone can text you while you are driving and have it reply where you are on your behalf.
Or am I missing something?
Cavey.co.uk said:
Option A - Re-sale. Surely this shouldn't be possible as the original owner of the phone will contact the network and the IMEI will be blocked.
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Many Kaisers are not bound to their phone network. I can insert another sim card and use it without limitations.
well how about some thug takes your phone and isn't to savy tech wise. He doesn't take it because it's "the top of the line" driverless phone, no he takes it because it's shinny and looks expensive. So maybe they are smart enough to just turn it off for a little while but at some point they turn it on to check out what it does and to see if it works. I'm thinking at this point you get an email or txt with the gps location. Drop that into google maps, call the coppers, grab a chainsaw and head to where google leads you.
Am I missing something?
Stay0Puft said:
Many Kaisers are not bound to their phone network. I can insert another sim card and use it without limitations.
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Here in the US IMEI blacklisting is not done on GSM phones. The phones are locked to the carrier though, but the phone can be unlocked.
-Jay
How much will it be if we want to put one of the anti-theft apps inside the ROM, so that it can survive even the hard-resets?
I know that this need to be custom for each user, which means self cooked ROMs with the software installed, registered and configured for per-user.
It can be made through UC but if the SD is not there upon hard reset then it is useless.
has anybody tried it before? will it be hard to do?
mcbyte_it said:
How much will it be if we want to put one of the anti-theft apps inside the ROM, so that it can survive even the hard-resets?
I know that this need to be custom for each user, which means self cooked ROMs with the software installed, registered and configured for per-user.
It can be made through UC but if the SD is not there upon hard reset then it is useless.
has anybody tried it before? will it be hard to do?
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Daran was offering to cook Sprite Terminator into personalized ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448178&highlight=daran
Not sure if he's still doing that, but you could try contacting him.
i search for it too
i find the following program, but withou howto: http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net
I am interested too if its possible. THere are few tutorials to do that but I never been successful in doing it. Hope if someone does that.
i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone.
First, sorry for my English - i'm from Poland.
So, i have HTC TyTN II Kaiser and WM6.1. I have working Wi-Fi, but in my school it's not working correctly. In school I need my ID and password to get to Internet, but I don't know where is this option in Kaiser. My pocket see signal, but when i try to connect, the signal is lost (red X). And if I want to get to this network in my school, I must install certification (name PJWSTK CA - my school), I install it but it's not working. My friends, with laptops and Windows XP/Vista can connect and they don't have problems.
I try to find some application to more options for my Wi-Fi, wireless etc. Something, what can help me to connect to this network. Maybe something, what make signal stronger or something...
I hope you guys understand me and help me.
Please don't remove this topic.
Anyone, please?...
If you go to settings > connections > wifi > power-mode
you can increase the power of the wifi by choosing 'best performance'.
Other than that i cannot help you, sorry.
best of luck
errolpl said:
First, sorry for my English - i'm from Poland.
So, i have HTC TyTN II Kaiser and WM6.1. I have working Wi-Fi, but in my school it's not working correctly. In school I need my ID and password to get to Internet, but I don't know where is this option in Kaiser. My pocket see signal, but when i try to connect, the signal is lost (red X). And if I want to get to this network in my school, I must install certification (name PJWSTK CA - my school), I install it but it's not working. My friends, with laptops and Windows XP/Vista can connect and they don't have problems.
I try to find some application to more options for my Wi-Fi, wireless etc. Something, what can help me to connect to this network. Maybe something, what make signal stronger or something...
I hope you guys understand me and help me.
Please don't remove this topic.
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My only suggestion is to talk to the school, perhab they have a tech that can help you out. I don't think its a software issue so I would definately hunt around campus and try to find the right person to help! I hope this helps!
Thanks, but it's not working. I find something else. I must install certificat.cer and I do it, i have message "Installation OK" but when I try connect to WiFi, they wan't the certificat. It's crazy :/
Have a look here:
http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/windowsmobile-certinstall.html
You usually need several certificates, the root one of the school, possibly a second one for the certification authority, and your personal one.
We don't have personal certificats. My school have only one and nothing else. My teacher told me today, that he's PDA working correctly but he don't remember how he do it. I'll be know that after 3 weeks. So, I must wait.
Thanks you all guys for help.
Hi,
I have my HTC TyTn II here, and I wanted to reflash the ROM, which would of course mean the loss of all data on the phone/PDA.
I have backed up all my regular files (documents, emails, music etc.) but just as I was double checking I had everything backed up, I stumbled on my connections page, and realised that my connection details/login/settings hadn't been backed up (and of course why should they be?). Of course this is where the problem lies, I remember the host and all the information that is given to you, except the password is an obscure one I cannot for the life of me remember, but it is saved to the phone and all I see are ***'s. Is there any way of retrieving this password? I want to have an internet connection after I flash the new ROM, but I don't remember the password. (Is there a registry key I have to look at? Or an application that does it?)
If revealing the password is not possible, is there a solid means of backing it up?
By solid means, I don't mean, "Try this it may work" only to find out it doesn't work and have no connection for ages.
I have full access to the rest of the phone (of course!...in case you were suspecting otherwise...).
I really appreciate any help I receive on this!
If nobody has an answer, I suppose I will have to stick will this slow bloatware filled, old, brick of an OS (im sure you know what im talking about!)
Thanks again,
J250
most of the latest roms have a "connection wizard" that will detect your network and configure your device with the proper data connection settings.
If the rom doesn't have it, you can find that cab on xda-devs and install it
also whats stopping you from calling your provider and getting the settings from them? Finally have you tried searching xda-devs (or google) for your providers connection settings?
Hi,
Thanks for the quick reply. I should have made it more clear, the settings are not the default providers settings, they are on the phone too, but I know how to obtain those. Also, I did not know windows mobile would automatically try to obtain your settings, thanks for the info
It is an external provider, and I don't feel like rummaging around a mass of paperwork looking for a string of characters! (Only as an absolute last resort).
I have done some more research, and I found PocketAsterisk, which seemed to be perfect in theory, but in practise it didn't work.
Again, any help appreciated!
hello guys
I need to be able to use the internet sharing w/out signing up with AT&T , my phone is lock, can someone help me and let me know what can I do to activate the Internet sharing?
do I need to unlock the phone ?
do I need to unlock the sim card?
whats the eases way to unlock my At&t HTC Pure ?
I work outdoor in sales and I need to use my laptop all the time ..
please help....
julien01 said:
hello guys
I need to be able to use the internet sharing w/out signing up with AT&T , my phone is lock, can someone help me and let me know what can I do to activate the Internet sharing?
do I need to unlock the phone ?
do I need to unlock the sim card?
whats the eases way to unlock my At&t HTC Pure ?
I work outdoor in sales and I need to use my laptop all the time ..
please help....
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are you trying to use internet sharing with no data plan? if so, that wont work
Like "leemoss84" commented, you can't use internet sharing if you don't have data plan, as internet sharing is using the data plan of your phone for browsing internet on computers.
But if you want to use the wireless (Wi-Fi) feature of the phone without using the data plan, disable the 'Proxy'
Start > Tools > Proxy Manager > Disable Proxy
also in the Settings > Connections > Select Network
select "My ISP" instead of MEdia Net
once you've done this, you can access wireless network without being charged by AT&T.
I do have Data plan
I do have a Data Plan with AT&T with unlimited internet, but At&t wants me to charge me an extra $60 a month! just for tethering with my laptop
or to use the phone as a modem.
I want to know if there is a way to jump the $60.00 a month they want to charge on top of the unlimited internet and voice plan Im paying now.
Thanks in advance.
julien01 said:
I do have a Data Plan with AT&T with unlimited internet, but At&t wants me to charge me an extra $60 a month! just for tethering with my laptop
or to use the phone as a modem.
I want to know if there is a way to jump the $60.00 a month they want to charge on top of the unlimited internet and voice plan Im paying now.
Thanks in advance.
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To tether undetected, just make sure both your internet connections in "Settings\Connections\Connections\Advanced Select Networks" are set to MediaNet and take out any proxy server in "Settings\Connections\Connections\Tasks\Manage Existing Connections"
I do it all the time.
Bruce thanks, so I went to take out the proxy server in "Settings\Connections\Connections\Tasks\Manage Existing Connections"
I i see a message on the TASK tab " The Connection is pre-configured it cannot be modified
I didn't know that would work unless you use a custom rom. I wasn't able to tether untill I flashed with dutty's. after that.. a few changes (media net, etc. mentioned above.) and I was off and running..
can you please recommend how can I flash my phone?
at this moment I'm lock with At&t
what will be the best option to flash my phone?
step one assume you have topaz (htc pure) in my case
go here to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520312
then once thats done go here and choose your rom that you want to flash
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=486
I recomend NRGZ28 Max manila http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562942
basicly when you download the rom if everything went well with step one just open the RUU file (looks like a topaz phone icon) and follow instructions. Make sure your phone is connected via sync
again this is a fast tutorial theres more detail ones around here in these forums
I had the same trouble when I first got the pure. There is a way to use ICS on the original rom. You have to change some registry values. I searched the internet and found the instuctions and it worked. But since then I have used many different roms that are better than the original and don't have that problem. I would recommend the energy rom. Remember to install hard spl first.
julien01 said:
Bruce thanks, so I went to take out the proxy server in "Settings\Connections\Connections\Tasks\Manage Existing Connections"
I i see a message on the TASK tab " The Connection is pre-configured it cannot be modified
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Don't you have a app "Remove Proxy server"?
all of this is comepletly not needed . there is a reg edit that will handle this easily over on the att forum . ;-) just do some digging like i did no flashing or other programs needed .
xhozt said:
all of this is comepletly not needed . there is a reg edit that will handle this easily over on the att forum . ;-) just do some digging like i did no flashing or other programs needed .
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might as well just install a simple app that is 2kb. it will save time considering you didnt post the edit and when you hard reset you dont have to go looking for it again, all you gotta do is install the app.
I will do some more research
then I need a app to manipulate the Registry on my HTC PURE with AT&T.
thanks guys
julien01 said:
then I need a app to manipulate the Registry on my HTC PURE with AT&T.
thanks guys
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see 2 posts above. I posted the app here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5802221&postcount=11
WOW ! I got it the HTC PURE AT&T Solution to install the latest "Hard SPL"
Wow!
First thank you for all your contributions and inputs trying to help me with my problem Flashing the HTC PURE AT&T
Here is what I did:...
I was having a lot of problems trying to install the latest "Hard SPL", specially with USB communication and even when my phone was connected via ActiveSync.
I tried the automatic Flash and the manual with no results........ I was about to give up!
Also I download the "enablerapinew.cab" and installed on my phone main memory and ran the .cab and I got the message "installation of enablerapinew.cab was unsuccessful"- so i was going NUTS ! and I tried another .cab files to see if I was getting the same error and .... same thing I tried different .cab files like TOMTOM , google maps and a Games and all of them gave me the same message !"installation of enablerapinew.cabwas unsuccessful"
mmm........
So what I did was I reset the phone to the Manufacturers setup ( you know entering the password) 1234 and the phone will be like the first time you turned on.
so after that I install the enablerapinew.cabb and the installation was successful ! and everything else work !
now I have the ROM i wanted ! and .....
KISS GOODBYE AT&T !!!
julien01 said:
Wow!
First thank you for all your contributions and inputs trying to help me with my problem Flashing the HTC PURE AT&T
Here is what I did:...
I was having a lot of problems trying to install the latest "Hard SPL", specially with USB communication and even when my phone was connected via ActiveSync.
I tried the automatic Flash and the manual with no results........ I was about to give up!
Also I download the "enablerapinew.cab" and installed on my phone main memory and ran the .cab and I got the message "installation of enablerapinew.cab was unsuccessful"- so i was going NUTS ! and I tried another .cab files to see if I was getting the same error and .... same thing I tried different .cab files like TOMTOM , google maps and a Games and all of them gave me the same message !"installation of enablerapinew.cabwas unsuccessful"
mmm........
So what I did was I reset the phone to the Manufacturers setup ( you know entering the password) 1234 and the phone will be like the first time you turned on.
so after that I install the enablerapinew.cabb and the installation was successful ! and everything else work !
now I have the ROM i wanted ! and .....
KISS GOODBYE AT&T !!!
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yeah, a good hard reset will work wonders sometimes when you got a problem that cant be fixed. congrats.
so i have a question... i am running a custom rom on my phone, but my dad wants to basically do what the OP wanted, internet tethering without paying for the extra tethering plan. i cannot convince him to let me flash a new rom, likes the phone as is, just wants internet sharing. if i run that .cab on his phone, do i have to then make registry changes, or will the cab do all the work? what else would i need to do to give him his internet sharing?
2002wrex said:
so i have a question... i am running a custom rom on my phone, but my dad wants to basically do what the OP wanted, internet tethering without paying for the extra tethering plan. i cannot convince him to let me flash a new rom, likes the phone as is, just wants internet sharing. if i run that .cab on his phone, do i have to then make registry changes, or will the cab do all the work? what else would i need to do to give him his internet sharing?
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Just install the cab.
AT&T tracks tethering through their proxy server, the reg edit just takes out the proxy settings as does the cab.
Its the same tweak, just different ways to get there.
To verify it worked go to Settings\Connections\Connections\Manage Existing Connections\Proxy Settings and confirm it is blank.
the "enablerapinew.cab" this CAB is for phones with problem installing the Hard SPL, the "enablerapinew.cab" will enable the phone to install the "Hard SPL" and them you need to flash the ROM , on my case I did a hard reset and them install the "enablerapinew.cab" them run the cab , and them flash the Rom, and after that I was able to share internet w/out problems