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Right another thing ive noticed tonight...and i would have thought HTC would have solved this but seems like they couldnt care less.
Left my phone on charge at 6pm and went downstairs to watch some TV...anyways i came upstairs at about 12 and turned the phone on....it was in sleep mode like it normally does. Anyways looked at my screen and saw that the internet connection was still alive even though i specified that it should disconn after 1 min of idling. I also found the phone to be extremely sluggish....touchflow slowed right to a crawl. I opened up the the status and looked at the memory and it was down to 23mb!!!...no bloody wonder it wasnt snappy lol. Now this is where it gets interesting because really i had nothing running on the phone...always make sure all tasks are killed off. The only thing that was running was my gmail polling which takes place every hr or so...so dont know if that was causing a massive memory leak.
Im running it with the 1.37 uk stock rom as its a uk spec diamond...i looked through the task manager and couldnt see anything running.
So has anyone found this with the 1.37 rom??..i was going to flash to the new TLR 1.37 rom but just havent had time...has that rom fixed the memory loss.
Dont get me wrong, i still love the device...i restarted the phoen and all was well but over the past few hrs ive been watching the status of the memory and its slowly getting lower and lower. To be honest ive never come across a phone with such a bad case of memory leakage...ive owned most of the SE smartphones...P800, P900, P910i and P990c and i never found them to be as bad as the Diamond. But the good thing about those phones is that SE usually put out a new firmware to sort the memory leakage problems.
So i was just wondereing if anyone found their devices suffering from massive memory leakage....i know its WM thats causing it...
Just to give you an example....i re-started my phone about an hr ago and it was at 50 odd free mb...less than an hr later its at 40.85 mb free...and 72mb are being used...
Hi Spawn,
I've tried every ROM available and none of them fix the memory leak. After some time, a soft reset is necessary to get the TouchFLO 3D 'performance' back. My biggest gripe, is that when returning to the home screen, and watching the hour and minutes 'flop over' the hour part stutters a little bit. The only ROM I've had no stutter with is the Middle East ROM, and even then after some time the memory leak gets worse and it starts stuttering again. *Really* annoys me. Surely it cant be that hard to make that little animation look smooth and fluid.
HTC really need to get off their collective asses and fix this.
In the meantime, thank god for xda-developers.com!
You could try something: turn off Flow and see if you still get a leak.
I loved the look of the interface, but was forever actioning wrong items/ringing wrong people/whatever. I dropped it and went beck to SPB Mobile Shell (which I had been using on my 'good old' P3600i). I have never seen any leak.
I've noticed this too.
If I click on the little task manager icon in the top right corner as soon as the phone is rebooted it displays about 50% roughly. As the day goes on, its up at about 75% - and I have no programs running at all. The only thing I've used through the day is Texting and a bit of Opera.
It seems the phone needs rebooted every day or 2...
I'm also running the UK 1.37 ROM
Hi,
Does Hibernate help reclaim the lost RAM?
Regards
Hello,
You know, the memory leak problem exists since Windows Mobile 6.0. I had it with my previous Eten X500+. Unfortunately, it has not been fixed with WM 6.1. This is a microsoft problem, not HTC...
Philippe
salada2k said:
Hi Spawn,
I've tried every ROM available and none of them fix the memory leak. After some time, a soft reset is necessary to get the TouchFLO 3D 'performance' back. My biggest gripe, is that when returning to the home screen, and watching the hour and minutes 'flop over' the hour part stutters a little bit. The only ROM I've had no stutter with is the Middle East ROM, and even then after some time the memory leak gets worse and it starts stuttering again. *Really* annoys me. Surely it cant be that hard to make that little animation look smooth and fluid.
HTC really need to get off their collective asses and fix this.
In the meantime, thank god for xda-developers.com!
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Yep thats what my diamond was doing...it was having a hard time with the clock.
Anyways seems like we are stuck with this memory leak till HTC release a rom which rectifies or wait for someone to cook up a rom which will rectify the memory leak. Only other gripe i have other than the memory leak is the battery but thats not too bad.
Guess ill just have to re-start the phone every so often. I disabled emailing polling as that seemed to cause it to hang a bit ie the connection stays on even though ive told it to disconn after a min of idling.
Hibernate as far as i know doesnt help the situation as my phone last night was in sleep mode.
I have this issue also, and I have to restart the phone once every two days to free up the memory. I think I know where this comes from : TouchFlo3D records every action you make to optimize the use the next time you boot
or not...
raphaelc said:
I have this issue also, and I have to restart the phone once every two days to free up the memory. I think I know where this comes from : TouchFlo3D records every action you make to optimize the use the next time you boot
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Yeh after doing a few more tests, it seems like tfl3d is right resource hog...it just wants to take over everything. Im hoping future rom releases optimises the tfl3d but like you im resorting to restart the phone every other day or else it just becomes unuseable.
Its shocking how bad HTC are with their QC control...surely they could see this being a problem ie tfl3d eating up memory like a rabid wolverine.
Thank god for XDA though, at least ill be happy in the knowledge that someone here will be able to figure out this mem leakage and sort it out fingers crossed.
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Its shocking how bad HTC are with their QC control...
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it must be the same dream team which Q-checked windows vista
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it must the same dream team which Q-checked windows vista
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LOL...well i run vista ultimate on my laptop and its not that bad...M$ and HTC really dont have a clue when it comes to mem leakage...even in WM6 and before it was apparent that memory leakage is a problem..they really need to address the memory leakage problem....i just wish they would do so rather than ignore the problem altogether.
I've changed the clock to the non-flipping one... it seems to make the TouchFlo a bit smoother as it has less 3D to cope with. You certainly notice it after a day when pressing the Home key - its much quicker!
here's the story: my Tytn II was running fine for some months
one day I was travelling and need to use the GPS until there was just around 8% battery level
then everything started to get slow (GPS map couldn't even redraw)
ok, I though it was in some "slow-clock mode" to preserve battery
then I reseted it and, when I came synced it at home, ActiveSync said it couldn't sync (don't remember why) and it would have to send all the information again
but it was taking forever, so I stopped it and did it again later, when it said it was success
I then noticed my speed dial numbers had been lost, but that's not a big problem
the biggest problem here is that for the last 5 days my Tytn is slowing down very often (like 5 minutes after I reset it), even after I removed all startup programs!
What I'm noticing:
1) GPS maps doesn't redraw (I waited more than 2 minutes... it should take like 1 second)
2) Freecell cards are animating very slow after a completed level
3) touchscreen responsiveness is slow
4) I have TodayAgenda... after I change the date of a calendar item, it doesn't get displayed in the new day (just if I reboot)
5 and probably most important) mstli.exe is using 80 to 98% CPU
any hints?
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here's the story: my Tytn II was running fine for some months
one day I was travelling and need to use the GPS until there was just around 8% battery level
then everything started to get slow (GPS map couldn't even redraw)
ok, I though it was in some "slow-clock mode" to preserve battery
then I reseted it and, when I came synced it at home, ActiveSync said it couldn't sync (don't remember why) and it would have to send all the information again
but it was taking forever, so I stopped it and did it again later, when it said it was success
I then noticed my speed dial numbers had been lost, but that's not a big problem
the biggest problem here is that for the last 5 days my Tytn is slowing down very often (like 5 minutes after I reset it), even after I removed all startup programs!
What I'm noticing:
1) GPS maps doesn't redraw (I waited more than 2 minutes... it should take like 1 second)
2) Freecell cards are animating very slow after a completed level
3) touchscreen responsiveness is slow
4) I have TodayAgenda... after I change the date of a calendar item, it doesn't get displayed in the new day (just if I reboot)
5 and probably most important) mstli.exe is using 80 to 98% CPU
any hints?
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What rom are u using? Sometimes its good to make a hardreset.
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What rom are u using? Sometimes its good to make a hardreset.
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I'm using L26
Since I didn't change anything else, not installing/uninstalling programs and so on, I don't like the hardreset idea (there's a lot of work to set everything back again )
Lem0nHead said:
I'm using L26
Since I didn't change anything else, not installing/uninstalling programs and so on, I don't like the hardreset idea (there's a lot of work to set everything back again )
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There's often alot more work in diagnosing exactly what the cause is. If you haven't installed anything else then a hard reset (not a reflash) isn't to much work and it gives you the opportunity to progressively reinstal and test any additional software you do use. When you find the app that when installed or configured/used causes the slowdown, then you've found the culprit. Major slowdowns don't just happen out of the blue without changes to the software unless it's due to hardware failure and a hard reset will quickly pick up that sort of issue.
By all means wait to see if others with the same setup have experienced the same issue and if so what they did to solve it but I suspect you'd have it fixed sooner, going down the hard reset route.
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There's often alot more work in diagnosing exactly what the cause is. If you haven't installed anything else then a hard reset (not a reflash) isn't to much work and it gives you the opportunity to progressively reinstal and test any additional software you do use. When you find the app that when installed or configured/used causes the slowdown, then you've found the culprit. Major slowdowns don't just happen out of the blue without changes to the software unless it's due to hardware failure and a hard reset will quickly pick up that sort of issue.
By all means wait to see if others with the same setup have experienced the same issue and if so what they did to solve it but I suspect you'd have it fixed sooner, going down the hard reset route.
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I couldnt say it better. I flash and hardreset my phone very often, its a little bit painfull but u will get used to it.
Do not be afraid of the hardreset.
just letting you know I remembered in this same day I had the battery problem, I changed a setting on IP Dashboard (configuring it to keep max 500 KBs history)
I now removed IP Dashboard the problem stopped
will try some other program later, or the old config
thanks
my nexus one is charging on a regular basis around 106-7 F. I know there is another thread about this issue but the question was not resolved. So does anyone have experience with this issue. Is it a defect or dangerous? I have OSmonitor installed, this si where I am reading my temps. I also notice the CPU usage is pegged around 98-99%..is this normal?
I heard using setCPU with a charging profile can solve this problem if you have root?
No, it is not normal for the cpu to be maxed out while charging. Are you using the car dock or a wall charger?
nexous one
mine does the same thing all the time its not going to damage your phone at all
my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
my phone is perfect just set your set cpu for fail safe and your all good
You probably could use SetCPU to solve this problem, but the fact that your CPU usage is so high in the first place means there is something going wrong - my guess would be a rogue app.
Try downloading a task killer from the Market. Kill each app running one at a time then check your CPU usage. You'll soon find the culprit.
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my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
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Yeah I'm starting to see the problem with the phone having a metal casing. Not good when it's summer and you have to place it under direct sunlight for extended amounts of time, while using navigation AND charging
That thing can get burning hot alright.
Are you using froyo 2.2?
I have had the same problem; I also have random periods of high cpu use when not charging as well. This issue is not caused by problem apps either. I must reboot to fix the issue, sometimes I must reboot several times until the cpu load is back to normal.
I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
I will also try to reapply the 2.2 update.
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I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
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Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.
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Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.
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I bet your heat issues are related to cpu loads or staying at high frequencies like mine. Sometimes the phone does not feel like it is really running as hard as the system monitors say, though it may still get hot.
Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
I am re-flashing the leaked 2.2 update to make sure there was no issue with the original install. I am also using the copy my GF downloaded when I sent her the instructions on the off chance that my download was corrupted in some small way; unlikely but hey. I do think that the original flash may have gone wrong, as mine hung and never rebooted after the flash was complete; I had to manually reboot. Lets hope this fixes it.
This issue may be more widespread than we realize, as many people do not actively monitor their cpu or notice/worry about the heat after charging. I do believe that these leaked ROMs send debug data to google, I remember reading something along those lines; these are internal test ROMs after all. Maybe this is a reason that 2.2 is not out yet, this and other bugs found during real world use.
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Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
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What I did was follow this guide up to the point where you have a stock eclair rom, then not upgrade to Froyo. Keep using that for some time, see whether the phone gets hot or not, THEN (if you want) move back to Froyo.
I am using the wall charger hat came with the nexus one. I am also running Froyo 2.2... can I set a CPU fail safe without my phone being rooted? Also what is a quick to check if my phone is rooted? I just bought this Nexus One from someone. I know on my G1 it was rooted bc I had Superuser permissions.
Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.
The fastest way I can think would be installing Lamppu, then trying to use it to light up the camera flash. If it works your phone is flashed, if it doesn't it's not.
As for your other questions... sorry, i don't know. I hope someone else can help you.
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Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.
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Thats a system process so you can not kill it.
Going to test my GFs nexus and see if she has these issues as well.
I restored my N1 to the factory image, the updated back through each update to 2.2; so far so good. My GF's N1 has been running fine since I really started watching it, so I figured it would hurt to try to restore and redo the update.
No 100% cpu load during charging any more!
i am using the Motorola charger and my phone is not getting hot at all. with the charger that comes in the box for the N1 it seems to heat up.
Still had the CPU load get stuck at 100% today; though charging is not forcing 100% loads any more.
By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?
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By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?
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System monitor apps, some will even put a little icon in the notification tray that shows current cpu load.
I have two battery's for my N1 but everytime i replace it the year goes to 1980. is this normal? (i didn't think so). It should remember the date right? and everytime it boots the alarm goes off because it thinks it's too late funny i don't think it's ROM related because it happens with all ROMS (CM, MIUI, GB).
I'm using my N1 a year now.
Not a direct answer to your problem, but you can try ClockSync from market. It automatically syncs your system time with a server every so and so many hours. Maybe a start?
Automatic sync helps but it's very annoying i have to wait for the resync and the alarm goes off also onnaying when i'm in a train .
but it's not a common issue then.
Well I replace my battery frequently and never have clock issues. Definitely interesting.
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Well I replace my battery frequently and never have clock issues. Definitely interesting.
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I also thught i didn't had this issue before. happend when the ROM crasht so i had to pull out the battery to reset, and then it started going to 1980. so my first guess was that the internal battry is empty, that happens usually on pc's. i couldn't think of anything else.
I wiped the phone and changed roms but nothing helped.
=.= i have the same issue...is there a small battery to store the date and time on the motherboard?(like the CMOS battery...)it may be empty
Same question.
So anyone have a solution to this yet?
I have the same behavior. My Nexus One is from USA.I always tought that every nexus one lacks a clock battery
hey all, question here. I have noticed this in the last few roms, not sure if this happens in stock, but i have been running cognition, currently 3.04 ( before that 3.02, 3.0 and 2.3b6), Occasionally I notice that after the phone comes out of sleep I see the clock go from example 1:30 to 3:30 or something like that. IS that a bug in cognition? or does the clock occasionally turn off when in sleep mode, and the reason for the lag sometimes be the phone cpu usage is doing some thing when i come out of sleep causing the jump to current time? or whats the reasoning behind this?
thanks.
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hey all, question here. I have noticed this in the last few roms, not sure if this happens in stock, but i have been running cognition, currently 3.04 ( before that 3.02, 3.0 and 2.3b6), Occasionally I notice that after the phone comes out of sleep I see the clock go from example 1:30 to 3:30 or something like that. IS that a bug in cognition? or does the clock occasionally turn off when in sleep mode, and the reason for the lag sometimes be the phone cpu usage is doing some thing when i come out of sleep causing the jump to current time? or whats the reasoning behind this?
thanks.
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When the device goes to standby, all the widgets and screen updating apps are put to sleep to save battery. When u turn on screen, all these are refreshed. This is normal.
alright. Just curious, how come sometimes i see the clock go super speed to catch up, and other times it at the correct time? ( I usually dont see it, Ive only seen it maybe 5 times past month)
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alright. Just curious, how come sometimes i see the clock go super speed to catch up, and other times it at the correct time? ( I usually dont see it, Ive only seen it maybe 5 times past month)
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No clue. Didn't go into so deep architecture I shall see if I can find out how it works internally when I get some time.
Thanks. Anyone else feel free to answer as well.
I am looking forward to your research. I am a techy as well, and not knowing why somethings happen and dont happen when it comes to things like this bug the heck out of me.
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Thanks. Anyone else feel free to answer as well.
I am looking forward to your research. I am a techy as well, and not knowing why somethings happen and dont happen when it comes to things like this bug the heck out of me.
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As a more visible and more frequent occurrence, load a time app onto ur home screen. You can see it get updated when u turn the screen on frequently.
I think its more dependent on how many apps/widgets need to be updated when u turn ur screen on. I hardly have any on my screen so its a rare case I see the time update.
ok, so let me get this right, your saying it probably happens more often when i haven't used my phone in a while, because lets say I have things that update every four hours, and if the phones in sleep, and they haven't updated, they all could possibly be updating when i come out of sleep because there over due, thus sometimes causing the system clock to jump?
Any one else know anything ?
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lets say I have things that update every four hours, and if the phones in sleep, and they haven't updated, they all could possibly be updating when i come out of sleep because there over due, thus sometimes causing the system clock to jump?
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All that u set for 4 hours to update, get updated but in the 'background'. The 'display' part of them is not updated, and is 'refreshed' when screen turns on.
Hey, anyone else got any theories or updates?
I'm using ultimate Rom, newest version as of a couple of days ago.
Just noticed this about 3 times in half an hour or less.
Interested in learning why I will see my clock jump from like 2:13 - 2:17 instantly at times when I come out of sleep...
a google search using different words found this :
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars&id=9524
Are there any devs here that could explain or potentially fix this issue ?
Reading all that worried me, thinking hey, maybe my alarm clock isn't reliable either...
I had this issue when I was running 2.1 stock. I haven't had the issue since flashing 2.2 (have used both cog 3.02 and andromeda 2.0).
Your link also seems specific to 2.1, and I believe is a known issue coming out of 'deep' sleep. I had some luck with app called 'load monitor'. It's free and has a setting I think is called prevent suspend that doesn't allow phone to go into deep sleep.
Not sure if re-flash might help since what you describe shouldn't happen running 2.2
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
Okay. But what are the chances of me repeatingly getting bad flashes? Ive been on cog 2.3b6, 3.0 , 3.02, 3.04 snd now ultimate rom. Sometimes i wont see it happen for weeks. Other times ital happen a few times in 30 mns.
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Oh and reading through that link you see tons on 2.2 have that issue, not just 2.1
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Yeah not sure. Really thought was general 2.1 issue, not just on captivate.
Try load monitor. I forget the setting there, but it'll prevent deep sleep. That or you could try app 'no led' and send yourself an email before going to bed (when active notification that app prevents deep sleep too).
Sorry those are lame options that'll affect you battery life to some degree. Perhaps there are better options posted here but you'll have to dig for it.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
I'm assuming a ton of people have it but dont pay much attention to it expecially that it comes and goes in seconds.
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Stil no fixes?
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I've been on some or other version of the ROM I have in my signature, and never observed a clock lag so far. Maybe u cud try this ROM once. By the way, I am on xcal's kernel, and not the kernel supplied in this ROM.