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[Q] Make vogue android snappier

Hi,
I was wondering if HTC Vogue/Touch users can share some tips to make Vogue faster and snappier.
rvgsd
(Fresh Froyo - NAND.)

rvgsd said:
Hi,
I was wondering if HTC Vogue/Touch users can share some tips to make Vogue faster and snappier.
rvgsd
(Fresh Froyo - NAND.)
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odex the build, only drawback is that you cant theme it after that.
that and a light overclock are both pretty good

Thanks for the reply! I am really new here. Can you point me towards an odexing guide??

rvgsd said:
Thanks for the reply! I am really new here. Can you point me towards an odexing guide??
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forum search for odex donut

lol, make vogue android snappier? hahahahahahahahahahaha
sorry, that was a good laugh. I think thats what we have all be trying to acomplish since day 1.

incubus26jc said:
lol, make vogue android snappier? hahahahahahahahahahaha
sorry, that was a good laugh. I think thats what we have all be trying to acomplish since day 1.
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look what the cat drug in , really miss having you around jeff

thoughtlesskyle said:
look what the cat drug in , really miss having you around jeff
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i miss being around... dont miss the phone. I think ill make a rls17 for the hell of it.
What is the latest source and kernel that works the best at the moment?

incubus26jc said:
i miss being around... dont miss the phone. I think ill make a rls17 for the hell of it.
What is the latest source and kernel that works the best at the moment?
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if you want all languages i can pm you a recent compile of it (like mid November) as far as for kernels i dont know im still using a really old one, the last one dzo did of 2.6.25 before he started the new port

thoughtlesskyle said:
if you want all languages i can pm you a recent compile of it (like mid November) as far as for kernels i dont know im still using a really old one, the last one dzo did of 2.6.25 before he started the new port
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is it worth me doing? Has there been any improvements since my last release?

incubus26jc said:
is it worth me doing? Has there been any improvements since my last release?
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newer google apps is the biggest thing added since, they have been decently stable as of late too. TBH i havent even really been doing much on my vogue lately either.
i do have a theme for hero you and myn would be proud of though

Speeding up Android
If you free up some memory your vogue will be faster. I suggest uninstalling all the apps you don't use / can do without. You can also try the Fat Free build of android. I hear that it is faster.

Code+Blood said:
If you free up some memory your vogue will be faster. I suggest uninstalling all the apps you don't use / can do without. You can also try the Fat Free build of android. I hear that it is faster.
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it is mostly since it uses all the principles covered here its odex'd it has the fat cleaved from it, and via rogue tools you can overclock it

Yeah, I tried the Fat-Free build and its super fast..! DZO Fresh Froyo is already amazing, and Fat-Free froyo makes it even faster. The life that is put into this phone is unbelievable, and the support too! I remember when I used to use my vogue with wm-6.1 !

rvgsd said:
Hi,
I was wondering if HTC Vogue/Touch users can share some tips to make Vogue faster and snappier.
rvgsd
(Fresh Froyo - NAND.)
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ummm if you want a snappy android phone get rid of the vogue. not trolling here but your dealing with a 4 year old outdated phone. buy a real up to date android device. props to the devs here but im shocked people still own this device. even xda put it in legacy mode.

fixxxer2008 said:
ummm if you want a snappy android phone get rid of the vogue. not trolling here but your dealing with a 4 year old outdated phone. buy a real up to date android device. props to the devs here but im shocked people still own this device. even xda put it in legacy mode.
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some people cant upgrade from it or they will lose their plan, or they are people like me who's plans dont have upgrade eligiblity luckily i was able to track down a hero for cheap. tbh it could handle donut awesomely froyo def has some stability issues maybe gingerbread will be better

thoughtlesskyle said:
some people cant upgrade from it or they will lose their plan, or they are people like me who's plans dont have upgrade eligiblity luckily i was able to track down a hero for cheap. tbh it could handle donut awesomely froyo def has some stability issues maybe gingerbread will be better
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im not dissing the vogue as i owned a few of them but yeah if you get the hero you will notice a huge speed increase. even more so with a evo or epic. i know people want to keep their cheap legacy plans but sooner or later you will have no choice but to upgrade and pay more. 4g will be standard someday.

fixxxer2008 said:
im not dissing the vogue as i owned a few of them but yeah if you get the hero you will notice a huge speed increase. even more so with a evo or epic. i know people want to keep their cheap legacy plans but sooner or later you will have no choice but to upgrade and pay more. 4g will be standard someday.
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i wish i could go to the evo but sadly i havent found an evo cheap enough yet

My phone is pretty snappy and stable considering it's a bit long in the tooth. I recommend the latest .32 kernel, Scooter's CM rls4c, and a mild overclock to 490 mhz. I don't keep a bunch of crapware apps and widgets on my phone and I recently trimmed down to three desktop screens.
It is my sincere hope that my carrier offers me a decent plan when I do bite the bullet and upgrade to a new android device. It's going to cost me an additional $20-30/mo to get a plan comparable to what I currently have and I really wanted a decent device with a hardware keyboard. Either the Epic or the EVO Shift will be in my pocket next...

know.patience said:
My phone is pretty snappy and stable considering it's a bit long in the tooth. I recommend the latest .32 kernel, Scooter's CM rls4c, and a mild overclock to 490 mhz. I don't keep a bunch of crapware apps and widgets on my phone and I recently trimmed down to three desktop screens.
It is my sincere hope that my carrier offers me a decent plan when I do bite the bullet and upgrade to a new android device. It's going to cost me an additional $20-30/mo to get a plan comparable to what I currently have and I really wanted a decent device with a hardware keyboard. Either the Epic or the EVO Shift will be in my pocket next...
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yea keyboards are nice but htc phones with keyboards always suffer from poor design flaws, like the touch pro and the high failure rate of that (i even had problems with mine before i sold it), the G2 and it basicly falling open when turned upside down, i love htc to death but i dont trust anything they have with a keyboard at all

incubus26jc said:
is it worth me doing? Has there been any improvements since my last release?
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The Cyanogen mod has been ported
but no, not that many changes.
Here are the kernels for 2.6.32:
http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.n...44fac6b0542c9e4d62be3ebd5a3fb1fc4830b;hb=HEAD
And i would love it if you made another release

[ROM] Final Froyo Release for Obsidian by CCRoms V2.02 Next Up Gingerbread

Welcome to the final release of Froyo, by the CCRoms team, which means you guessed it, we're switching gears to Gingerbread after this release. With this release we managed to get the Evo/Emerald going as intended(sorry for the wait.) The Galaxy S style pulldown power widget has been implemented in this release as well. Gem settings have been completely re-written as well, to provide a more intuitive and easier to understand interface for everyone, and of course bug fixes abound.
downloads available at: http://www.ccroms.net
Note:
Droid X users, at this point there is nothign more we can find to do to improve battery life. When/If the battery starts to drain fast, gets sluggish, or gets hot, reboot the phone this will put the race condition causing all of these problems back to sleep, unfortunately there is no way to put the process back to sleep once it wakes up and if you kill the process kernel panics and the phone reboots anyway.

sniffle said:
Welcome to the final release of Froyo, by the CCRoms team, which means you guessed it, we're switching gears to Gingerbread after this release. With this release we managed to get the Evo/Emerald going as intended(sorry for the wait.) The Galaxy S style pulldown power widget has been implemented in this release as well. Gem settings have been completely re-written as well, to provide a more intuitive and easier to understand interface for everyone, and of course bug fixes abound.
downloads available at: http://www.ccroms.net
Note:
Droid X users, at this point there is nothign more we can find to do to improve battery life. When/If the battery starts to drain fast, gets sluggish, or gets hot, reboot the phone this will put the race condition causing all of these problems back to sleep, unfortunately there is no way to put the process back to sleep once it wakes up and if you kill the process kernel panics and the phone reboots anyway.
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How do you plan on bringing gingerbread to the droid x when we won't have the proper kernel to take advantage of it?

Are the "known issues" (GPS, camera/camcorder, etc.) fixed in this release?

avlfive said:
Are the "known issues" (GPS, camera/camcorder, etc.) fixed in this release?
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No they are not. It shows all the known issues from the dl link posted above

bravo1234 said:
How do you plan on bringing gingerbread to the droid x when we won't have the proper kernel to take advantage of it?
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for the record, a kernel is nothing more than a core piece of low-level software that executes other programs and provides access to the hardware. nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well, if anything you just might need to modify how android interfaces with the hardware to match the old kernel interfaces.

joebob296 said:
No they are not. It shows all the known issues from the dl link posted above
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Saw that, just didn't know if it hadn't been updated quite yet. Too bad. I'm still waiting on these to be fixed before I can jump back in. LOVED the ROM though.

avlfive said:
Saw that, just didn't know if it hadn't been updated quite yet. Too bad. I'm still waiting on these to be fixed before I can jump back in. LOVED the ROM though.
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Those are all a must for me at least
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I don't understand the gps issue or the camera issue. If there was fine GPS and a camera i would love the fact it is AOSP however not that i use them all that often but if i loaded it i would inevitably need one or both. and its still beta if you can't get a totally stable and working froyo rom how will you ever get the GB stable. Will the kexec(?) be used to use custom kernels to make the gps and camera work?

I just booted this up seemed ok other than the problems known but for some reason it wouldn't let me download anything from the market said I didn't have enough room.... Idk y that happened
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Funnyface19 said:
I just booted this up seemed ok other than the problems known but for some reason it wouldn't let me download anything from the market said I didn't have enough room.... Idk y that happened
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same here. it's been reported in other obsidian forums too. i was able to get around it by using an older version of market. i installed cm gapps instead of obsidian gapps. The cm gapps had a version of market from 2 month ago. everything worked fine. then i updated my market to 2.2.11 and the "There's not enough room..." error message was right back again.
other than that, i really love how clean and fast this rom is. thanks a ton cvpcs and best of luck with the cyanogenmod team.

any pics of the drop down toggles???

tttuning said:
any pics of the drop down toggles???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbKJy6MPUz0

cvpcs said:
for the record, a kernel is nothing more than a core piece of low-level software that executes other programs and provides access to the hardware. nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well, if anything you just might need to modify how android interfaces with the hardware to match the old kernel interfaces.
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what...? What!? That is completely wrong... Nothing says you have to upgrade the kernel... unless Gingerbread uses modules not currently in the present kernel, which I can pretty much guarantee it will... Your statement could hold true for something such as minor update like 2.2 to 2.2.1 as we saw earlier, but would very like cause many things to not work come gingerbread. A good example is the previous hacked upgrades of 2.1 to 2.2 back before the proper kernels were released (specifically in memory of the HTC Incredible) sure, 2.2 could run without the proper kernel, of course your WiFi wouldn't work, GPS didn't work, if you tried to run the 720p camera it would crash, as well as several others that I cannot remember as of this moment. The kernel is not "just a low level piece of software" it is the backbone of your entire system, especially when it comes to the system talking with the hardware itself.

I think Taco that you should reread CVPS post. It stated this...
"nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well"
Which is what you said was wrong, then said the same thing following it.

So how is the rom working for everyone? or it's pretty much dead..

ram130 said:
So how is the rom working for everyone? or it's pretty much dead..
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I think it was pretty much dead on arrival when it said the camera & camcorder didn't work...that's kind of a mandatory feature of any smartphone.
If it's been fixed...then they're lame for not updating the page noting the bugs.

JagoX said:
I think it was pretty much dead on arrival when it said the camera & camcorder didn't work...that's kind of a mandatory feature of any smartphone.
If it's been fixed...then they're lame for not updating the page noting the bugs.
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Well that sucks ..development on this phone is so slow..

The worst part is the x HAD so much potential, do to great things. I have watched this forum since the day the x launched and the sad thing is that the tbolt is only 6 days old right now and has a much larger devwlopment thread than the x has had at any point. Sad to say it but i think moto phones are done in the development community.
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ksizzle9 said:
The worst part is the x HAD so much potential, do to great things. I have watched this forum since the day the x launched and the sad thing is that the tbolt is only 6 days old right now and has a much larger devwlopment thread than the x has had at any point. Sad to say it but i think moto phones are done in the development community.
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The X development has all but ceased from what I can see. Such a bummer since I'm stuck with it for another year and a half. Hopefully we can see a few updates to some ROMs once gingerbread rolls around for the phone, but after that I don't see much reason for hope.

True...so what was the most annoying issue with this rom? Im thinking about flashing it. Im on 3.4.2 now.
Also you can sell your DX on swappa.com then pay the difference and get a htc.

Moderator:please close this thread

My own Project was already in the works for another TEAM:
http://www.aedesign.cn/bbs/forumdisplay.php?fid=6
DOWNLOAD of THEIR work:
http://u.115.com/file/bh5z76gp#AED_Legend_5.0.0.RC3_exp.zip

good to see

Good to see someone else to make something new for the legend comunity. Keep going!
By the way, what is your ROM base? The video is too blury...

ogo2 said:
Good to see someone else to make something new for the legend comunity. Keep going!
By the way, what is your ROM base? The video is too blury...
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I would say this rom:
http://www.aedesign.cn/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=316&extra=page=1

Looks cool, looking forward to this rom. Gj so far
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I am glad as well to see someone else step up to the plate. I think this will give the CyanogenMod developers some more motivation to make a stable release.

LiViD said:
I am glad as well to see someone else step up to the place. I think this will give the CyanogenMod developers some more motivation to make a stable release.
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Yeah, I know we are idiots. All of our releases have been unstable, full of bugs and missing nearly every feature one could wish for. Please excuse us, but we really can't do any better. The fact that all ROMs that are not based off RUUs are CyanogenMod rip-offs should clearly tell you that we just can't get anything right at all.

Very MIUI like.. Looks pretty much like my new Desire... Great job seeing similar running on the Legend..
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great job!

LiViD said:
I am glad as well to see someone else step up to the plate. I think this will give the CyanogenMod developers some more motivation to make a stable release.
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i suggust u say sorry for your arrogance to the CyanogenMod tea
btw awsome work!

dilip007 said:
i suggust u say sorry for your arrogance to the CyanogenMod tea
btw awsome work!
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You guys don't pay attention to the experimental thread do you? Seriously, over 160 attempts at a nightly build and still nothing that performs up to par with ogo2's 2.3.3 Sense UI ROM. Sure his is lacking WiFi AP functionality, but I can live with that.
I love how you call everyone elses' ROM a rip-off of a CM ROM. Get a life guys, no one would attempt to use your builds unless said person was extremely lazy.

LiViD said:
You guys don't pay attention to the experimental thread do you? Seriously, over 160 attempts at a nightly build and still nothing that performs up to par with ogo2's 2.3.3 Sense UI ROM. Sure his is lacking WiFi AP functionality, but I can live with that.
I love how you call everyone elses' ROM a rip-off of a CM ROM. Get a life guys, no one would attempt to use your builds unless said person was extremely lazy.
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Damn.. Where have you lived your life? 2 versions of stable ROMS is what we have.. original from HTC is 1 - CM is 2.. All roms worth mention is variations of one of those.. (for Legend that is)
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LiViD said:
I love how you call everyone elses' ROM a rip-off of a CM ROM.
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I know I'm wasting my time here and I really don't care anyway.
Still I think I have to clarify that I'm not talking about people using some "builds". I'm talking about the source code.
If you want to build a ROM for the Legend (and nearly every other device out there) you've got two choices: Push some files from official releases (RUUs) around and zip them, or compile from source.
As a matter of fact there's no project out there that releases working source code (for anything but Google's official devices) except for CyanogenMod.
Video encoding or decoding? msm* support? Backported code for ancient libcamera, libril and framework support for said ancient libraries? GPS backport or implementation? Kernel backports for Gingerbread? Yeah, good luck finding that somewhere else (no, I don't mean the CAF repositories where we are copying from and giving credit of course).
LiViD said:
Get a life guys, no one would attempt to use your builds unless said person was extremely lazy.
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"Get a life"? Come on, don't be ridiculous.
MD5-sums can be quite revealing by the way. Or boot messages (like "Welcome to CyanogeMod" in MIUI). Some people were even charging for shady rip-offs – that's why the CM team ultimately decided to close down development and switch to "release when it's done".
LiViD said:
Seriously, over 160 attempts at a nightly build...
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Sorry, but you didn't understand the concept of a nightly build? There are no "attempts at a nightly build" and they are not even meant for users. Nightly builds are there to see if current code in the repositories still compiles. Nothing else.
whitetigerdk said:
All roms worth mention is variations of one of those.. (for Legend that is)
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Unfortunately not only for the Legend but for most other devices too.
Android was said to be open but in fact it's just proprietary crap again. No developer wants to spend months doing the work of forty CM devs, so they either join CM – or sometimes steal their work declaring it as their own – or use (or combine) binaries from official releases.

If you didn't care, you would be in other developers threads attacking their attempts at making something that just may work better than what you're pushing out.
Face the facts; People want more choices other than CM. I am willing to admit that CM 6.1 was a damn good ROM when it came out, but I can't for life of me figure out why you guys can't live up to the same expectations with CM7.
I have been testing the NewSense 1.0 RC's (HTC Salsa ROM) for some time, and I as I said; Without the lack of AP support, it works well and does not have the crash prone problems that I have seen with 7.0.3, and 7.1 RC1.

ali ba said:
Unfortunately not only for the Legend but for most other devices too.
Android was said to be open but in fact it's just proprietary crap again. No developer wants to spend months doing the work of forty CM devs, so they either join CM – or sometimes steal their work declaring it as their own – or use (or combine) binaries from official releases.
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Oh Sorry.. Didn't know much of other devices.. Recently bought the Desire and currently using MIUI. Must admit that I believed the MIUI to be a completely rewrite of the Android framework..
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LiViD said:
I have been testing the NewSense 1.0 RC's (HTC Salsa ROM) for some time, and I as I said; Without the lack of AP support, it works well and does not have the crash prone problems that I have seen with 7.0.3, and 7.1 RC1.
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You can thanks for that to HTC, because i haven't written a single line of code in NewSense. Only some crappy hacks.
Really, our community is too small and we have a lack of devs, but that's not all. HTC provide to us just ****ty sources. It just sucks!

Btw: this rom here is based on cm7...

Edit: I commented on the wrong ROM. My bad.

I still think Blayo's rom's are the best for Legend!
Been using them for quite a while and I never have had any complain!

whitetigerdk said:
Must admit that I believed the MIUI to be a completely rewrite of the Android framework..
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Their earlier releases certainly used CM sources with modified framework and apps. I don't know what they are doing now – but as they don't release their sources I can accuse them of using modified CM source code as much as I want without ever being able to prove it so I refrain from doing that.
If you are interested, the UltimateDroid soap opera is a good read by the way.
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You can thanks for that to HTC, because i haven't written a single line of code in NewSense. Only some crappy hacks.
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That doesn't make your work worth less than anyone else's and certainly not "crappy".
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HTC provide to us just ****ty sources.
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I'd be happy if they provided the real sources for the binaries they are releasing but as a matter of fact HTC continuously violates the GPL and we can't do anything about that.
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If you didn't care, you would be in other developers threads attacking their attempts at making something that just may work better than what you're pushing out.
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Where exactly did I attack emiliano7's work? I'm actually very glad that someone is developing for the Legend and I never stated anything else.
You obviously on the other hand couldn't resist showing your arrogant attitude by addressing the CM team in this thread making false accusations. You can't take a discussion off-topic and then blame others for taking the same train.
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...the crash prone problems that I have seen with 7.0.3, and 7.1 RC1.
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Instead of making vague accusations you could have filed bug reports a long time ago. CM is a community project and nothing without its community.
It sometimes still makes me sad that for some people whining doesn't seem to be a problem but as soon as it comes to writing a good bug report they come up with various excuses.

i dont understand, why so many ics roms based on an alpha?[rant]

already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
/rant

It is no different than the numerous GB/CM based ROMs. Who cares?
Bounced off a tower to a forum near you!

I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.

xjreyes said:
I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.
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What happened? I had wallet set up and ready to go, tried it at rite aid and wouldn't go through...
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these people couldn't be taking part in a hobby for them, could they be just trying to learn the ins and outs of android, heck they couldn't even be kids learning to code and all are getting excited to show off what they complied.
Last time I checked you were not required to flash every rom in the Dev section. So lets take a step back I don't like miui nothing wrong with it but should I be complied to start a thread asking why we have topics about when I don't care for it.

icecoldbong said:
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You said it....
Chill out. We have to get AOSP working bug-free in the first place, then they'll start looking different. Even CM9 doesnt have any CMsettings or anything special. We're sorry that something that we're beating Google at (ICS release for NS) currently is not to your standards.
In due time.....in due time.

I see where the OP is coming from, but I disagree. The fact that the devs work hard to bring the OS to our devices is pretty appreciated. They pretty much do Google's work for free by modifying the code.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

icecoldbong said:
already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
/rant
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you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety

simms22 said:
you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety
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lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name

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lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name
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I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
To put things in perspective, ICS development for the Nexus S is light years ahead of all other devices. For that reason alone, we should be grateful. Others are still struggling to either boot, or get somewhere AFTER boot.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.

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I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.
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yes, two roms are getting built from the source on xda; kwiboo and koush. then all the others.
both kwiboo and koush thread is full of bug reports of people using a different rom like brainmaster, ultimate ics, kangorama ics, etc.
all this does is add confusion from the rom chef adding things to the original rom developers work
what im suggesting/ranting is that if a rom chefs should be a little more patient in making more spinoff roms that don't really add much besides to confusion for noob users

Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.

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Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.
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Most of the bugs posted are not even valid. One in particular is known issue even on the GNexus.
The biggest issue I see is code optimization at this point.
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
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RonnieRuff said:
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
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This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.

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This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.
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Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.

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Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.
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I found kwiboo's to be a lot more stable than koush's. although koush's had more functionality.. my bluetooth didnt work, and i got many errors.

Understand that we are using old binaries. ICS will run just as good as gingerbread, if not, better. These will make a world of difference

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One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS.
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I'd kind of disagree with this. In its current early state here on the NS, I've gotten it running butter smooth and highly responsive, on a 1.1 OC/UV kernel. This is WITHOUT tweaks to filesystem, etc. If certain apps would just display properly when GPU Rendering is turned on, and some battery stuff worked out, I'd be 100% content.
Now granted, I've seen it running on the SGS2 and Galaxy Nexus and they're clearly speedier, but in my experience, my apps run just as fast as they did in GB.
On a side note....wanna see slow? It's been ported to the T-Mobile G1! HA! The first, original android phone!

I agree. there was actually a recent article on android police about this. There is no problem with people making their own roms but don't clog up the development section with "roms" that really all they do is bundle some easily downloadable market apps and some wallpapers and call it a new rom.
What the SGS2 xda forum actually did was split the dev section into 2 . One for original dev work and one for spin offs.

[Q] CM9 ICS Q&A Galaxy Note

I`am real excited about this rom and i think others are too so i can imagine people having questions.
Don`t want to clutter up the dev section so i took the liberty to create this thread so people can exchange and share all kind of CM9 related stuff if you want

Will it have all of the S-pen functionality and the Samsung S- apps? Like S-memo?

Samsung hasn't developed the S pen ability on ICS yet, so it will take a while .

I'm not touching a ROM unless it's official.
Maybe I've grown up, but flashing ****ty buggy ROMs is not for me anymore.

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Samsung hasn't developed the S pen ability on ICS yet, so it will take a while .
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Is that insider info

bharat4ever said:
Samsung hasn't developed the S pen ability on ICS yet, so it will take a while .
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But the S-Pen SDK is available. Don't know if that helps, but... Yeah..
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Any luck changing DPI? I could daily this fine if I could just get things to not be so jumbo. Tried 2 programs from market and both (even after new superuser install) wont keep settings.

ericshmerick said:
I'm not touching a ROM unless it's official.
Maybe I've grown up, but flashing ****ty buggy ROMs is not for me anymore.
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When I flashed CM7 on my nexus one, it was far from ****ty and buggy. I'd call it official in its own way; rather refined, actually, with better performance and many more features than my previous "official" ROM. I don't know anything about CM9 yet, though.