Hi guys i got idea here, hope its possible, as android is open source, anything can be routed to anywhere, only if i had that talent to do programming on ANDROID i would have tried it. Look at picture and you would understand
why not just use the access number for your SIP provider? that way you can make a VoIP call for the cost of a normal phone call to the access number.
Callwithus is a good SIP provider for this purpose as it has reliable access numbers to use. I think Callcentric and voip.ms do as well.
what if i dont have local call number for my sip providers? only thing i can hope for best is this. Think of calling to USA while living in INDIA, when u dont have local access numbers nor do have internet.??
bhanvadia said:
Hi guys i got idea here, hope its possible, as android is open source, anything can be routed to anywhere, only if i had that talent to do programming on ANDROID i would have tried it. Look at picture and you would understand
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I'm probably missing something obvious, but why can't you just use the N1 to make the VOIP call directly?
all someone has to do is incorporate sip and stuff into a single program.
well nexus one is my primary phone and its always connected to internet, but my gf dont have nexus, nor do she got smartphone with voip, so if she wants to call there, and i m in office, i wanted something that can make that possible.
Almost free kind of calling, she call my NEXUS, and make my nexus dial her wanted number using SIP over WIFI, so virtually she talking through my NEXUS but speaking in her phone.
bhanvadia said:
what if i dont have local call number for my sip providers? only thing i can hope for best is this. Think of calling to USA while living in INDIA, when u dont have local access numbers nor do have internet.??
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In that case, Callwithus has a feature.. they have a special access number that doesn't actually pick up (so that you will not be charged). the system will then call you back and prompt you to enter the number you want to dial, routes it over VoIP, and you're connected. check it out.
it wont work. it would cost like double for me. and one more thing, its not that what i want or what i can?
its just IDEA so that XDA community can make it possible. Its like exploring possibility of Android OS, to make it as a SERVER to forward calls received in GSM, through VoIP.
Its something thats never been done, or never even tried by anyone.
The basic is
1st person calls nexus one phone [local number so it be cheap]
NEXUS pick up call automatically {developed server software running}
NEXUS beeps[this mean sipdorid active][so can now enter number (international, which could have been deep hole in pocked if called direct)]
1st person, enter desired number as DTMF, and press # to confirm.
NEXUS dials that number though VoIP SIPDROID. Phone connected. And join that VoIP call with GSM call.
bhanvadia said:
it wont work. it would cost like double for me. and one more thing, its not that what i want or what i can?
its just IDEA so that XDA community can make it possible. Its like exploring possibility of Android OS, to make it as a SERVER to forward calls received in GSM, through VoIP.
Its something thats never been done, or never even tried by anyone.
The basic is
1st person calls nexus one phone [local number so it be cheap]
NEXUS pick up call automatically {developed server software running}
NEXUS beeps[this mean sipdorid active][so can now enter number (international, which could have been deep hole in pocked if called direct)]
1st person, enter desired number as DTMF, and press # to confirm.
NEXUS dials that number though VoIP SIPDROID. Phone connected. And join that VoIP call with GSM call.
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That's the problem with the idea--there is currently no way to bridge the SIP call with the GSM call. Even call recorder apps (post-Donut) are not possible because Android does not allow access to the incoming audio. Even if somehow you compiled your own custom kernel and ROM to accomplish that, your problem would be that neither Sipdroid nor 3CXPhone allow bridging calls other than SIP (as they are native SIP clients that do not interface with GSM). Perhaps if Gingerbread gives access to incoming audio, something could be done.
as for the callback approach "costing double," that's just not true. Termination to India (landline and mobiles) is only 1 US cent. Plus, you will not be using any of your airtime credit because it will be an incoming call for you, so in the end you save quite a bit of money since you will only be paying the usual rate + 1 cent per minute. (So, a call to the U.S. would cost you a total of 1.9 cents/min, for example.)
That's the practical solution to your issue.
its not issue, and there are no number in that website for india. and one more thing, google allow us to control audio, thats how AUDIO mod came out, and also thats how A2DP bluetooth started to work on desire roms with FM. Plus if we see, sipdroid as opensource, and someone developes way to do that, i m sure sipdroid team will do it possible to use sip with that.
bhanvadia said:
its not issue, and there are no number in that website for india. and one more thing, google allow us to control audio, thats how AUDIO mod came out, and also thats how A2DP bluetooth started to work on desire roms with FM. Plus if we see, sipdroid as opensource, and someone developes way to do that, i m sure sipdroid team will do it possible to use sip with that.
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Unfortunately, as I said, Android does not expose the incoming audio stream from a GSM call.
That has nothing to do with FM radio or A2DP, since those are not related to GSM calls.
And you can indeed use Callwithus from India by using either the caller-ID based callback feature as I explained before, or by using their web callback feature. Either way, their system will call you and then connect the call and you will not have to use up any of your airtime credit since it would be an incoming call for you. You would pay the usual termination rate (plus the 1 cent/min charge for terminating your end of the call to your India number)
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Don't know if this is Kaiser only, but since I'ts a kaiser thats giving me grief here goes...
We're using a mobile switchboard and as part of the group answering our main phonenumber I'd really like to be able to transfer calls with my Kaiser...
Normal phones (as in my last Nokia E61i as well as my N95) gives me the options to park the current call, dial my colleague and then "transfer".. I can't find this option on my Kaiser..
Is this option not available in WM6 or is it HTC that has "removed" it? Or perhaps, is there a thirdparty software to help me with it
Go to Start / Settings / Phone / Services / Call Forwarding.
I'm talking about call transferring not call forwarding..
Transfer = I answer the call, call another contact & transfer it to him..
Forward = all my calls go to another contact and/or number...
Can I push this up, cause I'm desperatly looking for this function on the kaiser.
Maybe there's some addon or a special key combination to activate call transfer on the htc kaiser?
yep - this is possible but is network dependent.
you need to put the call on HOLD.
call your colleage/2nd party.
CONFERENCE the call (so you and 2 callers can hear each other)
then YOU hang up - they are left connected and chatting (but at the expense of YOUR bill!!!)
Hope this helps you.
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yep - this is possible but is network dependent.
you need to put the call on HOLD.
call your colleage/2nd party.
CONFERENCE the call (so you and 2 callers can hear each other)
then YOU hang up - they are left connected and chatting (but at the expense of YOUR bill!!!)
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks for the answer! I will try this when I'm back in my company.
The costs are no problem because we call each other in the company for free and the call transfer is only needed to redirect customers to the right contact but I think it's a long way round when there could be a simple option in the menu (like hold and conference). Every other mobile I know offers a direct way to do this (either a menu item called transfer or by pressing a number).
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you need to put the call on HOLD.
call your colleage/2nd party.
CONFERENCE the call (so you and 2 callers can hear each other)
then YOU hang up - they are left connected and chatting (but at the expense of YOUR bill!!!)
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Tested it and it doesn't work. It simply quits the complete conference.
Again, maybe there's a special dialer which supports it or some kex combination to press.
I really need this feature!
Solved!
So here's the way it works on wm devices:
Get the first call and put it on hold.
Make the second call and press the number 4 followed by the green phone button.
The second call is now transferred to the first and you are finished.
Great thanks to my phone provider ONE who came up with it!
Nice find! Does not work on my Q-Mobile 1.2 Tilt with AT&T.
I get "cannot conference calls"
I contacted AT&T and they said there is no way to do it.
I did read that if your call comes in using a Google Grand Central number you can transfer it using Grand Central specific codes.
Later, Lew
lewcamino said:
Nice find! Does not work on my Q-Mobile 1.2 Tilt with AT&T.
I get "cannot conference calls"
I contacted AT&T and they said there is no way to do it.
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Yes, it's a "feature" that your Phone Provider must support in order to use it.
I get "cannot conference calls".
I know for a fact that the same sim when used in my old v v old ericsson r380 world phone allows me to conference multiple people.
but my kaiser (running stock) says the above message.
how can i conference calls? the phone looses part of its utility value if I am unable to use this feature. someone got any tips/ tricks for me?
p.s. i initiate both the calls...
conference call is not the same as call transfer!
You can start a conference as described by firstbuddha a few posts ago in this thread (you just shouldn't hang up if you want to stay in the conference). There's also a menu item for conference call.
If you use my method with pressing 4 and the green phone button you are trying to transfer a call which is only possible when your phone provider allows it.
I've seen discussions here about running a voip client on the tilt, but I've not yet found exactly what kind of service provider is needed for this.
I have packet8 voip service at home. Can I configure a tilt client to make/receive calls over that service? If so, what info do I need from packet 8 to do so?
Or, I have a gizmo account that my grandcentral forwards to. Gizmo only seems to have a java based client for the phone, which isn't working very well for me.
Basically what I'm wanting is calls from my grand central number to get to my tilt via wifi, since I work underground where cell signal isn't available, but we have solid wifi coverage. I'm not worried about being able to make calls.
What's the best way to accomplish this, and can I do it without having to pay for another provider?
VOIP, Voice Over I P, requires an internet connection. As far as I know you don't need a provider. You need an internet connection and a client. Skype is pretty popular but there are others. Check out the SEARCH link in my signature, below. Search for Skype, VOIP, and similar terms and you will get the answer to your question.
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VOIP, Voice Over I P, requires an internet connection. As far as I know you don't need a provider. You need an internet connection and a client. Skype is pretty popular but there are others. Check out the SEARCH link in my signature, below. Search for Skype, VOIP, and similar terms and you will get the answer to your question.
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How could you not have a provider? Something has to transfer calls from the POTS network where the call originates to VOIP. Last I knew, skype charged for 'skype-in' to have a phone number associated with your skype account for calls to come in to.
I have already searched for and read VOIP related posts, as I indicated in the OP. None that I found addressed configuration of packet8 service, which is what I'm ideally looking for. Hopefully someone else will be able to help answer the question, rather than suggesting something I've already tried without success already.
it bugz me nuts when someone who doesnt know what theyre talkin about replies w/nonsense assuming that youre just a little dumber than them..
obviously, these ppl just dont understand what the need is And that they arent qualified to reply...
many times this makes a thread grow beyond the point of management. the mods are hard pressed to clean up irrelevant posts--- such as this..
thankfully, this thread wont reach those numbers..
i aint hating, im just saying :: you all just spit out the words "search" and often a thread you spout off is hundreds of posts long and most are irrelevant--
impossible for someone who has a life to wade all the way thru..
thanx for the space-- feel freee to delete this post.
BTW, i would like to know how you solve it.. please post when you find it
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BTW, i would like to know how you solve it.. please post when you find it
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That I will!
gai-jin said:
I've seen discussions here about running a voip client on the tilt, but I've not yet found exactly what kind of service provider is needed for this.
I have packet8 voip service at home. Can I configure a tilt client to make/receive calls over that service? If so, what info do I need from packet 8 to do so?
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Packet8 is a non-standard VOIP provider. I believe you will need to download, install, and use their client. And that'll cost you over and above your existing service. Worse, I don't think it will get you what you want. Appears that you can make calls, but I'm not sure if you can receive them. I'm not a Packet8 user so I'm not certain of that. But since you are, I'd recommend contacting them to find out what's possible with their service using a mobile device.
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Or, I have a gizmo account that my grandcentral forwards to. Gizmo only seems to have a java based client for the phone, which isn't working very well for me.
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The Gizmo5 mobile client is Java based. It will run like crap if it all on your device. More bad news, it's primarily an IM app and it does not do pure VoIP.
gai-jin said:
Basically what I'm wanting is calls from my grand central number to get to my tilt via wifi, since I work underground where cell signal isn't available, but we have solid wifi coverage. I'm not worried about being able to make calls.
What's the best way to accomplish this, and can I do it without having to pay for another provider?
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I use Voipstunt, and I'm able to make and receive calls on my device. However you do have to pay for the service. And typically it will cost a little more if you want a dedicated number so you can receive POTS calls. In many (most) cases calls between SIP devices / VOIP software are free. Skype is probably the most common example of this.
I'm sure you're busy, as we all are, but as you have time you really should peruse this INCREDIBLY long but educational thread on VOIP. In a nutshell here's what's needed to do get what you're asking about. You will need a VOIP provider (probably NOT Packet8, I'm afraid), a soft phone application for Windows Mobile (I like SJPhone or X-Lite), and if you want to receive from a POTS line you will also need an incoming number from your VOIP provider (usually called a VOIP-In number). Hope this helps you a little. Good luck!
VOIP or not to VOIP
I use FRING http://www.fring.com/ It also handles other thinkgs such as Skype. I had a previous Skype account which is free obviously. Then all you do is load Fring and then you can put in your Skype account and it will upload all your Skype contacts. You can then select one of these and hit call. You are now making a VOIP call over your phones data stream to your friends computer. But if you are wanted to make VOIP calls to landlines actual home telephones or cell phones then that will cost you money and you will have to load skype credits an what not. But if you have an unlimited data plan (which most people do if you have a pocket pc) then you can just call people on your buddy list like if you were talking from your desktop. This way if your friend is online you can talk all you want and not use any of your regular minutes cuz its all working off your data plan. You must have a 3G connection though or it will not be fast enough.
FREE softphone/BYOD
Simply put, http://www.nch.com.au/talk/:)
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The Gizmo5 mobile client is Java based. It will run like crap if it all on your device. More bad news, it's primarily an IM app and it does not do pure VoIP.
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First of all, THANK YOU for your very detailed post. It is on point, and addresses my questions, and that's very much appreciated.
I did want to elaborate just a bit on the Gizmo option though. The only reason I specifically mention Gizmo is because that's the provider that grandcentral says it works with. Is it possible to use a good windows mobile voip client with gizmo service? If so, that would be ideal, since I could continue to receive calls to grand central, without having to pay for a seperate sip /voip-in service.
http://www.google.com/support/grandcentral/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=79951
I use Voipstunt, and I'm able to make and receive calls on my device. However you do have to pay for the service. And typically it will cost a little more if you want a dedicated number so you can receive POTS calls. In many (most) cases calls between SIP devices / VOIP software are free. Skype is probably the most common example of this.
I'm sure you're busy, as we all are, but as you have time you really should peruse this INCREDIBLY long but educational thread on VOIP. In a nutshell here's what's needed to do get what you're asking about. You will need a VOIP provider (probably NOT Packet8, I'm afraid), a soft phone application for Windows Mobile (I like SJPhone or X-Lite), and if you want to receive from a POTS line you will also need an incoming number from your VOIP provider (usually called a VOIP-In number). Hope this helps you a little. Good luck!
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Again, thanks for the info. I'll definitely check out that thread. I'm fine with using a different provider if need be, but somewhat hesitant just because calls would be going from pots to grandcentral to pots dialing the voip number, back to voip to get to my phone. (at least, I assume since GC only supports gizmo voip numbers, that they are actually forwarding to pots for any other calls outbound.) That just seems like a lot of transitions, which is why the gizmo would be my first choice if it can work with a better voip client.
Thanks again!
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I use FRING http://www.fring.com/ It also handles other thinkgs such as Skype. I had a previous Skype account which is free obviously. Then all you do is load Fring and then you can put in your Skype account and it will upload all your Skype contacts. You can then select one of these and hit call. You are now making a VOIP call over your phones data stream to your friends computer. But if you are wanted to make VOIP calls to landlines actual home telephones or cell phones then that will cost you money and you will have to load skype credits an what not. But if you have an unlimited data plan (which most people do if you have a pocket pc) then you can just call people on your buddy list like if you were talking from your desktop. This way if your friend is online you can talk all you want and not use any of your regular minutes cuz its all working off your data plan. You must have a 3G connection though or it will not be fast enough.
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Unfortunately, 3G isn't available around here, but as I said, I'm really looking for this to work over a wifi connection anyway, which should definitely be fast enough to handle the calls.
I'll check into fring, hopefully it can support the gizmo service as well!
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Packet8 is a non-standard VOIP provider. I believe you will need to download, install, and use their client. And that'll cost you over and above your existing service. Worse, I don't think it will get you what you want. Appears that you can make calls, but I'm not sure if you can receive them. I'm not a Packet8 user so I'm not certain of that. But since you are, I'd recommend contacting them to find out what's possible with their service using a mobile device.
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I've seen ads for the Mobiletalk service form packet8 before, but unless I'm mistaken it's intended for getting voip rates on international calls, not for everyday voip use for domestic calls. I'm downloading the app now to see if it can be used in that way, but if it does what I need I'll be surprised.
Whoops, looks like my initial understanding was correct:
Mobiletalk FAQ said:
How does MobileTalk work?
MobileTalk is a small software application that monitors your international calls and redirects it to the Packet8 service. When an international prefix is dialed (starting with 011, + or 1), MobileTalk intelligently redirects the call to an access number in the same area code as your mobile phone number, and connects the call over the Packet8 VoIP phone service network. To sign up click here.
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Seriously?
Did you not read my post? It is a free pocket pc softphone that you can use with any SIP/VoIp service, as long as you can get their network settings. As with the post earlier in the thread, VoipStunt provides a very reasonable service, and they provide settings for BYOD(bring your own device). You will find it here http://www.voipstunt.com/en/sipp.html But mainly you need a windows mobile softphone, http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html From there you have many more options on what service you use. Also try http://www.broadvoice.com/ they have many flavours of service.;-)
I am not sure this will do the job for you but google wengophone. They have a soft phone that will work on your Tilt. I have used it to make outgoing calls and works good. I have not tried it for incoming as I think my ATA would pick the incoming up first. All you need is your login, PW, proxie and domain server name. If you have those for Gizmo it should work.
Let us know if it does.
FWIW, I'm 75 or so pages into the 'log educational thread' mentioned above. Anyone who's starting on that thread, feel free to read from the beginning, but don't start installing stuff or mucking with settings until you've read all the way through. There are multiple revisions of the cabs and files needed, and it seems that the original posts don't get updated with the new info.
So far, my voip is working, using the windows mobile 6 client, with gizmo, so yes, it can be done, but it's only working on speakerphone currently. Still reading for more info.
I've just summarized a bit of what I've gathered so far from that long 'educational' thread pointed out by hotmail, on page 135 of the same thread. Hope that helps others!
Picture this:
Your sitting at work and someone is calling you.
Your work will fire you if you talk on your cell phone.
However, your work doesn't care if you talk on their corporate phones.
Cell Phone have a built in call forwarding feature.
What I would like to see is a an application that will run when there is an incoming call. I want it to pop up and give me the option to forward the call to my work phone number.
It would be nice to configure it to have multiple forwarding options.
For example:
If your sitting at home and you have poor reception, you want to take the call but you don't want to deal with the poor call quality, so you forward it to your home landline telephone..
If someone has seen and application like this:
Or feels like developing an application, it would be much appreciated.
Another option would be cool if worked with S2U2.
Thanks.
This would be awesome, is it doable? Since call forwarding is a net based service it probably don't work to use the net service. But if you make the app to handle it as a phone conference where you call up a third party, that should be possible?! DEVELOPERS, GET ON IT!
Can't you just input your work phone number as a call forwarding number in settings to call after not picking up after 4 or 5 rings. then when you get a call you get the option to ignore the call and then it will be forwarded to your work number automatically.
Or do only operators in the netherlands give you this option??
You can't forward call when there is an incoming call in progres, that can do only operator.
There is network service and network must have this information, so only u can use build in feature to forward, and as robstgter said u can use that after a specific time the call will be forwarded.
DuMnUt101 said:
Picture this:
Your sitting at work and someone is calling you.
Your work will fire you if you talk on your cell phone.
However, your work doesn't care if you talk on their corporate phones.
Cell Phone have a built in call forwarding feature.
What I would like to see is a an application that will run when there is an incoming call. I want it to pop up and give me the option to forward the call to my work phone number.
It would be nice to configure it to have multiple forwarding options.
For example:
If your sitting at home and you have poor reception, you want to take the call but you don't want to deal with the poor call quality, so you forward it to your home landline telephone..
If someone has seen and application like this:
Or feels like developing an application, it would be much appreciated.
Another option would be cool if worked with S2U2.
Thanks.
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There is what you call, Forward on Busy, so when you hangup it just forward it to your number.
Are there any developers interested in working on this application/Function?
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Can't you just input your work phone number as a call forwarding number in settings to call after not picking up after 4 or 5 rings. then when you get a call you get the option to ignore the call and then it will be forwarded to your work number automatically.
Or do only operators in the netherlands give you this option??
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Well the problem is sometimes I would like to just ignore the call and send to voice mail.
Other times I would want to take the call, but I just want to hit foward to my work or home phone.
So I can talk on that line rather than my cell phone.
I wouldn't want it to always forward because I'm not always at work to answer the phone.
However, maybe there could be a easy way of completing this task by making an easy way to turn call forwarding off and on. The next thing to consider is the SMS (is it affected in a call forwarding environment or no?)
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You can't forward call when there is an incoming call in progress, that can do only operator.
There is network service and network must have this information, so only u can use build in feature to forward, and as robstgter said u can use that after a specific time the call will be forwarded.
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Yes and no.
I believe it takes just a second or 2 to update the call forwarding on your cell phone, through the settings, at least it use to be this way
SO: If the application ran, (pressing a button to forward) would just change the forward settings for you than after the 5 rings is up it forwards to the number desired.
I'm almost positive that the forwarding can happen after it rings because of this scenario:
You call someone, it rings 5-9 times then goes to voice mail. Well that voice mail is actually connected through a different phone number. Just like when you access your voicemail (for Californians) it dials a (909) 213-xxx number.. (which is nothing close to your cell phone number)
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There is what you call, Forward on Busy, so when you hangup it just forward it to your number.
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Yes, I agree the term is more of: Forward on Busy.
Ok Ive got the G1 1.5 UK update. Ive got sipdroid on my phone it launches and everything. Ive registered an account on pbxes.org. After that i have no idea. Can someone please help me out with a step by step on how to use this app and pbxes
You might not need to use pbxes.org at all, depending on who your SIP provider is. I use Gizmo5 and can connect directly to proxy01.sipphone.com just fine.
iptel did most of the development of Sipdroid, so it's understandable they would want to promote their service (like how Android on G1 is pretty Google-centric). However, it is afterall just a SIP client. Plug your SIP provider's info into sipdroid's configuration and see if it will connect.
Yeah how much do you pay for gizmo5 ?
It's like most other consumer SIP providers: free to make VOIP calls, but if you want to make a call to a PSTN number it will be billed per minute. You can see their call-out rates here and compare it with the rates of other SIP providers that offer a PSTN connection service.
Basic instructions on setting up Sipdroid posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516861
Sipdroid suggestions for service
First let me say that I love this app! I have been waiting for something like this to come along and want to thank the developers!
I have been experimenting with Sipdroid for a couple of weeks and have a few suggstions for those that would like to try it. In my experience so far....Anything I have setup has to go through pbxes.org in order for it to function properly.
You can sign up for an account with a service like 12voip.com or voipbuster.com. They are the same company but each offers "Free" calls to different countries so look at their list of free calls/countries and decide which one works best for you. For about $10.00 you get 90 days of service (300 minutes a week of calling) through sip or regular phone (via a local access number). This was the least expensive way to go for testing. I'm sure someone can suggest other VOIP services but these have been the ones I have tested with so these are only suggestions.
pbxes.org also offers service so they are another alternative.
You will also need to configure these services through pbxes.org as they will not work directly through the sipdroid software. I tried and failed. I was able to make calls but could not hear the person on the other end. Once I set it up through pbxes.org it all worked fine. You can obtain the sip settings for them on their websites. You will need to enter that info into your pbxes.org account. Now remember, this will only be for outgoing calls. They do not suppy a real phone number for incoming calls. I think you can get a real number through pbxes.org but I'm not sure. You should be able to receive sip to sip calls which would be [email protected] or 12voip.com but I didn't bother even trying that.
For a SIP die hard another suggestion (this is what I have settled with and it is working perfectly) is to invest 39.95 and buy a Magic Jack. If you have one already and don't use it and it's still active use it for this!
You will be able to pick a US phone number with choice of state/city. With a little searching at magicjacksupport.com you can obtain your sip settings and have the magic without the jack! In other words, you can setup your magicjack sip settings through pbxes.org and make/receive calls over sip. Your magicjack does not have to be plugged into your computer! It has been working perfectly for me. This procedure IS NOT something that the makers of MagicJack support and I am sure they would not be to happy about it either! So if you decide to do this, you are doing it on your own and it is possible you may violate your MJ TOS! I have not had a problem and have been doing magicjack things for quite a while!
If someone dials my magicjack number the calls forward to pbxes.org and in turn forwards the calls via sip and my phone rings (first it shows my MJ number and then it shows the caller ID of the person calling) and I answer, LOL. By showing my MJ number first, this lets me know that the call is coming in over SIP.
Pure SIP in and out. I picked a local number for my area and let my friends know to call me on it and they dont know the difference. My phone doesn't seem to care either! I have not experienced a single dropped call. I have been using this over wifi and 3g. I don't suggest edge as it is just way to choppy but you can if you want.
While I have to give iptel props for spearheading the whole sipdroid project, I really prefer to keep my SIP relationship between my sip ua and my sip provider. A middleman like pbxes is really not necessary from a personal user perspective and also potentially adds more lag to the call.
A lot of people seem to like the Betamax sip providers for their various free call schemes, but there are always caveats (max length of call being the primary one) and the account management ui sucks quite a lot. The worst part is the rather unsophisticated nature of the site and service give me the impression of being unreliable or unprofessional. If I could connect to callcentric with sipdroid, I would be using that, but until then I am sticking with Gizmo5/sipphone.
By the way, there are various other ways to get a free DID (inbound number). I'm using the popular ipkall service, but once Google Voice goes live it will be pretty much the king of all free DID services.
p.s. Please continue discussion on Sipdroid in my Sipdroid primer thread, to keep things in one organized place.
Hi briangnyc,
How did you forward your call from MJ to Pbxes.org? What number do you use for Pbxes?
Thanks,
-Gus
Can anyone give me a basic run down on the Google Voice interface. I have not been invited and am extremly curious if it is everything I have heard.A basic description would be great. Thanks in advance.
Whether it's "good" or not all depends on what you want from it.
GV gives you a new number, which can be in any area code, whether you live there or not. Changes to this number cost $10 later, but the first is free.
You have flexibility with GV to add your landline or even other cell phones to the account so that any or all receive the call when it comes in. You can set up a friend's landline as a temporary number, for example, if you have no cell signal at his place.
GV gives you voicemail with custom greetings for various contacts. I much prefer YouMail for this, but to each his own. In addition, you can set certain callers to go straight to voicemail or which phone rings when they dial your GV number.
GV allows you to screen calls *while* they're being recorded to voicemail. You can choose to "pick up" at any point.
You can also record calls in progress.
GV gives cheaper rates for international calls.
If you tell a bunch of people to call you at a certain time, you can add them to a conference call on the fly.
I'm sure there's something I've missed. It's a pretty flexible service. It allows your number to be tied to *you* rather than to any particular device or carrier.
Voicemails can be transcribed and sent as text in an e-mail.
http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html
I absolutely love it. I don't get reception in my office, so I use GV to route any calls to my cell during work hours to my desk phone and work cell. I use the GV number for situations where I don't want sales people calling my home or real cell and if I'm giving my number to someone I will most likely never see again
SMS free of charge was what brought me in - and the latest update to the app brings real-time syncing (previously the lowest possible refresh setting was 5 minutes). I already pay ATT for a data plan, why the hell should I have to pay an extra $15 for what amounts to a miniscule amount of data? Google Voice solved that problem.
I moved myself entirely over to GV, no one calls my actual cell number. I haven't had any significant issues so far, and I've been using it for half a year.
I only use it for the voicemail, which is more than enough reason to use it. You use your same phone number but get digital transcribed + audio voicemails with a very clean interface, also available on the web. You can set up sms and email notifications too.
The one drawback I can think of is this:
If you use GV completely, unless you have one of the unlimited plans from t-mobile (or your GV number set up under the old MyFaves plan) it uses minutes like any other call. No mobile-to-mobile anymore. Anybody care to back me up or refute this?
beartard said:
The one drawback I can think of is this:
If you use GV completely, unless you have one of the unlimited plans from t-mobile (or your GV number set up under the old MyFaves plan) it uses minutes like any other call. No mobile-to-mobile anymore. Anybody care to back me up or refute this?
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Really? Damn no wonder they got rid of MyFaves. They realized this and made a fix by removing it completely maybe. hahaha.
Have to admit I am payng ALOT 95/month for unlimited everything while my girlfriend pays only 50/month for the same thing with Boost.
The only thing with Boost is that the phones are trash.
beartard said:
Whether it's "good" or not all depends on what you want from it.
GV gives you a new number, which can be in any area code, whether you live there or not. Changes to this number cost $10 later, but the first is free.
You have flexibility with GV to add your landline or even other cell phones to the account so that any or all receive the call when it comes in. You can set up a friend's landline as a temporary number, for example, if you have no cell signal at his place.
GV gives you voicemail with custom greetings for various contacts. I much prefer YouMail for this, but to each his own. In addition, you can set certain callers to go straight to voicemail or which phone rings when they dial your GV number.
GV allows you to screen calls *while* they're being recorded to voicemail. You can choose to "pick up" at any point.
You can also record calls in progress.
GV gives cheaper rates for international calls.
If you tell a bunch of people to call you at a certain time, you can add them to a conference call on the fly.
I'm sure there's something I've missed. It's a pretty flexible service. It allows your number to be tied to *you* rather than to any particular device or carrier.
Voicemails can be transcribed and sent as text in an e-mail.
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Can you confirm that if you receive a phonecall out of state but receive or make a call through your Google Voice # it is still considered local??
I've had it for a while, but only just started using it on my phone, although my wife uses it to call back to england (nothing cheaper).
To get around it using minutes just figure out what local access number it is dialing, and add that to your fave fives (I'm on the original day one g1 contract still, so I still have fave fives)
For me the sms and vm management are the best things about it, but it's also nice to know I won't ever have to port a number over if I switch carriers
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Can you confirm that if you receive a phonecall out of state but receive or make a call through your Google Voice # it is still considered local??
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I live in Florida and have a GV number in Atlanta. Calls from Atlantans to my GV number are considered local for them.
And about MyFaves, I believe GV was the main reason tmo got rid of the plan. If you use GV for everything and have your GV number as one of your fave five, you'd use zero minutes from your bucket as far as tmo is concerned.
beartard said:
The one drawback I can think of is this:
If you use GV completely, unless you have one of the unlimited plans from t-mobile (or your GV number set up under the old MyFaves plan) it uses minutes like any other call. No mobile-to-mobile anymore. Anybody care to back me up or refute this?
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Mobile-to-mobile still applies for incoming calls (at least on ATT). I would imagine Tmobile (or any carrier) would work the same way.
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I live in Florida and have a GV number in Atlanta. Calls from Atlantans to my GV number are considered local for them.
And about MyFaves, I believe GV was the main reason tmo got rid of the plan. If you use GV for everything and have your GV number as one of your fave five, you'd use zero minutes from your bucket as far as tmo is concerned.
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Got it, you answered my question even though it wasn't well put. Thanks for confirming!
Damn!! I got suckered into the "Loyalty Plan" now everyone and anyone can use the plan. I should of stuck with my MyFaves plan, worst mistake of my life taking this service off.
According to an APP i downloaded called GV dialer. apparently it will route your call through internet and not use your minutes when you dial.
now i dunno if thats true, but im testing it at the moment. but it makes my own google voice call me and then it calls the person i'd like to call.
and btw i love google voice ^^ great if you need a business number.
Bzerk1 said:
According to an APP i downloaded called GV dialer. apparently it will route your call through internet and not use your minutes when you dial.
now i dunno if thats true, but im testing it at the moment. but it makes my own google voice call me and then it calls the person i'd like to call.
and btw i love google voice ^^ great if you need a business number.
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I tried GV dialer on my old mytouch with no sim, it didn't go through, said i wasn't registered on a network. =( So i'm guessing it doesn't use wifi. Not sure about 3g/edge on network.
Bzerk1 said:
According to an APP i downloaded called GV dialer. apparently it will route your call through internet and not use your minutes when you dial.
now i dunno if thats true, but im testing it at the moment. but it makes my own google voice call me and then it calls the person i'd like to call.
and btw i love google voice ^^ great if you need a business number.
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The only difference when calling between GVDialer and the official GV app is that GVDialer will count as an incoming call and Google's GV app will count as an outgoing call. So if you have free incoming it would be benificial to use GVDialer to make your phone calls.
Been using it for quite some time now.. mainly for the SMS feature.. too bad I can't send SMS to European numbers tried to SMS the in-laws using GV but no go..
I am now using GV as my work voicemail. Took a while to get our stubborn carrier to set up the No Answer/Busy forwarding, and I had to set my work number in GV as "mobile" to enable the forwarding options. The end result is that when I don't pick up my work number, the callers get forwarded to my GV voicemail.
The only drawback is that in Google Voice the greeting can only be set based on caller ID, so you can assign it to contacts and groups. This means that you cannot set a greeting based on which one of your numbers was called, i.e. you can't set a separate "work" greeting and assign it to your work number.
That reminds me...one thing I despise about GV is the inability to *upload* custom greetings. Their system of recording-from-the-handset-while-calling-in really blows.
That's why I prefer YouMail for voicemail. Its standard greeting greets your callers by name (if you have them in your contact list saved on YouMail's site).
heh, I was just looking for a way to upload greetings yesterday and found this out...
very disappointed, I was going to give each of my contacts their own private greeting - which would have really screwed with a couple of my friends