Hey all,
I see lots of people making roms for the wizard, but my search for tools to start doing this on my own has come very short. Can anyone suggest how I can get started making my own roms? I have done quite a few exhaustive searches on here, google, and buzzdev with little to no success.. all I've really found are old posts, dead links, and unanswered forum posts.
Please at least point me in the right direction, I have a lot outdated knowledge from when I used to test ppc2k3 devices for Symbol Technologies, and I would like to try the other end of what I was working with... I look forward to your responses and hope someone out there is willing to assist
Thanks!
~Rick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249836
Awsome, Just after I posted this thread I found that post, I am glad that you were able to confirm that it was a valid one.
Now, as far as testing your roms, do you typically put your devices in harms way, or do you have some kind of emulator that you use to test?
Is there some kind of comprehensive "How to" somewhere on MSDN or some other forum, or did everyone here just blindly poke around till they figured stuff out? (Which I am in favor of doing if necessary)
I just want to make sure that I can get myself as educated as possible without turning my device into a 6.2 ounce paperweight. I love the kinds of contributions people make here and I would love to be able to make my own contributions one day
Thanks (Sorry if im being pesty I am just so interested in getting started)
Don't worry about bricking the phone... as long as you don't flash ipl/spl you can always put the phone back into bootloader mode and reflash a rom that works...
ok so I downloaded a billion tools... but where do I get a base rom to start with? I decided a best bet would be to download the HTC shipped rom off their site, but that uses an NBF file, and all of these tools reference an NBA file, as a matter of fact every "rom" file I have found has an NBF file in it... how does that happen?
I kinda feel stupid and im losing faith in starting this
im have trouble?
I'm having a litte trouble with the posts can sombody help me out?
hey guys
i have searched through alot of forum and sites but i can't find the stuff i am looking for
seeing alot of kaiser lovers here i hoped you guys could help me
i have wm 6.0 wanted to update to 6.1y can't find how or with what (patch/rom?)or cab?
olso i cant play things with flash 7 is there a way to do that?
i olso want to use touchflo manilla 2d like in the sticky but if it goes bad will it bring my kaiser in problems?and so what kind of problems
and last after alot of searching i found some ppc apps sites but are there apps for kaiser which are must haves?
thanks to all who reads or helps
romero.camagong said:
hey guys
i have searched through alot of forum and sites but i can't find the stuff i am looking for
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Wow, man, Really what could you have read if you can't find these answers? They are all here. They are all listed in google. Hell I just did a google search for; tilt 6.1 update and came up 1st to this site..... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=tilt+6.1+update
That said;
1. If I was you, I would just install the ATT rom for your phone. No hassels, and since you have a hard time figuring stuff out on our own there ain't much to worry about. Get it here. http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=67&cat=all
You want the : AT&T Tilt Update - Version 3.57.502.2
This will run Manilla 2d without any issues that I have seen.
2. Other than that man you are on your own. What applications are must haves is a personal choice. What I must have and what you must have are really two different things.
3. As for flash 7 I just use skyfire. It plays everything. Google it and sign up. Its really just that easy.
4. I might have suggested a rom or two for ya, but you don't even list if your phone is unlocked which leads me to believe that it isn't, at least not by your hands, so I steared clear of the thought
Good Luck. Do alot more reading. Alot, and then read it all again.
thnx for the reply in the link of yours i cant find a cab or download file i have found one today but i need to connect it with my pc which crashed last week so i will do it somewhere today on work
skyfire is only for usa and i live in europe
i don't think its unlocked at least not by me
first of i wanna thank all thoes who post here to assist niggas like me who far behind when it come to tecnology.i reviewed many forms and still dont understand how to do this. i had a behold and broke it puttin software on there so i dont wanna do it to my wing.i always considered myself an intelligent individual but when i started learning about this i felt dumb as homer(the simpsons).i need help. i will donate to whoever can put this in slow terms and help me step by step.i would like to install touch and 6.1 in not 6.5..i still dont know what im talkin about but ive seen the youtube videos an been fasinated with gettin them ever since.please assist me i will greatly appreaicate it u will .i just got my wing monday so i dont know if its even capiable of this upgrade but let me know..
Hey man I'm on the same boat as you. This **** is real complicated but after about 24 hours of reading through all these tutorials and guides I have manahed to Hard SPL my devie (I still don't know what that means but I did it and needed to do it to add custom ROM's to it).
Do what I did man read up on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369397
Start from "how to flash" and Hard SPL your device. If you get stuck on anything just post here. I will see if i can help but like i said I'm only starting like you so it would be better if a mod comes and helps us both =P
oh and no I didn't mess up my device I have flashed it about 10x already
Yeap. I upgraded ROM succesfully, but when my PPC started for the first time he asked for screen align. I was tapping mark many times and nothing happened. Please, do not say it is my digitizer's problem..
is there a rom cooking for dummies. or some sort of guide. i would like to get into cooking roms for fun and actually contriibute
b0ricuaguerrero said:
is there a rom cooking for dummies. or some sort of guide. i would like to get into cooking roms for fun and actually contriibute
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Mlign put one up today youtube.com/mlign
He doesn't want to know how to sign files and setup the SDK, he wants somebody to hold his hand and teach him the inner workings of ROM cooking and development.
As a side note, that was the worst video tutorial I have ever seen. The guy's ROMs might be good, but the guy seems like a complete tool. Not to mention, there is a right clicking signing tool available in the dream theme forum. I don't know why he was using such a complicated signing tool.
DirectMatrix said:
He doesn't want to know how to sign files and setup the SDK, he wants somebody to hold his hand and teach him the inner workings of ROM cooking and development.
As a side note, that was the worst video tutorial I have ever seen. The guy's ROMs might be good, but the guy seems like a complete tool. Not to mention, there is a right clicking signing tool available in the dream theme forum. I don't know why he was using such a complicated signing tool.
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Oh, I see how that could warrant a new thread.
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He doesn't want to know how to sign files and setup the SDK, he wants somebody to hold his hand and teach him the inner workings of ROM cooking and development.
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i dont need anyone to hold my hand. i just want to know if theres is a definitive guide to rom cooking or rom cooking for dummies. or anything that can send me to the yellow brick road for rom cooking.
b0ricuaguerrero said:
i dont need anyone to hold my hand. i just want to know if theres is a definitive guide to rom cooking or rom cooking for dummies. or anything that can send me to the yellow brick road for rom cooking.
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i too would like to know it be really nice to make my own rom for my own phone haha
you'll be lucky!
ive been learning to cook my own rom for a while now, and im cooking eclair.
ive had a thread asking how the devs fixed sync and wifi on eclair... and no bugger seems to wanna share!
this comunity is about sharing yes... then why is it so hard to get any help!?
philicibine said:
this comunity is about sharing yes... then why is it so hard to get any help!?
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i dont know but, i still want to know. how to cook a god dam rom
you don't learn the cooking, the cooking learns you!
heh, but really, the reason there's no "definitive cooking guide" is because there's no such thing. Usually there's two approaches to creating roms: Porting and compiling from source. Porting is easy because it involves just knowing which files are necessary for the phone to run (kernel and it's modules, using/modifying/building a correct ramdisk, and pulling the necessary hardware/proprietary files to make the rom be able to communicate with the hardware). For those, a basic knowledge of file systems and using a few tools; your file archivers (7z, file roller, winrar, etc), porting tools (unyaffs, extract-kernel.pl, extract-ramdisk.pl, mkbootimg, mkbootfs) and distribution tools (testsing.jar, a working knowledge of update-script layouts) and you should be porting quickly, it's just mix and match to make your frankenbuild.
Building from source is not hard, or mystical, or anything of the sort. it requires learning how to use git/repo and working with makefiles.
If you want to make a truly custom build from source that works with google apps and has your own customizations, then you do need to learn a slight of java, c, c++, and most importantly, android app development.
You can't just say there's a guide. I guess the easiest one could do is put up a video of how to make a build from source, if I have time/drive I could do one, whole process takes about 2-3 hours (if you've never built before but have a build environment already setup), but I guess I could skim it down to a few minutes, since a lot of the time spent is waiting for compilation.
I too have been looking how to cook my own rom, so I could do my own tinkering so I could flash right away and use my own to my personal liking. If anyone could post a video or tutorial on how to do so I would be so grateful. I learn pretty fast just need a little help here and there.
In response to the OP, there are two tools that I am aware of:
One
Two
akapoor said:
In response to the OP, there are two tools that I am aware of:
One
Two
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in my response to you. EAT A **** ASSHOLE
and jubeh thank you for the info.
b0ricuaguerrero said:
in my response to you. EAT A **** ASSHOLE
and jubeh thank you for the info.
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Go ahead and entertain yourself by reading post two:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=438
Specifically points 1 and 2
I honestly hate when people do that ****...
The guy has 70+ posts....has been a member since 2007 you really think that he didnt search here and on google..
Considering I have been searching both places myself for over a month and all I come up with is premade custom roms... No reading on how to make a custom rom myself... What really gets me is that I read and I seem to be more confused..
With android running RUU's and signed.nbh's. Why do we have to update via a zip file... In the article that explains how to make a custom rom I found just today he says that RUU's dont allow any customization. Which is funny to me because Ive been cooking WM roms for years now which cooks the rom then signs and packs the nbh file into the RUU. I honestly have been looking for a kitchen but I dont think one exists as of yet...
Im not ready to load up YDL on my ps3 to figure out how to trim down an android rom.
Hopefully there will be a kitchen released on the same lines as say Ervius's Visual Kitchen. Just takes time. Took years for some real brains most being from this site and ppcgeeks to compile all the tools to make a rom like that.
Now that is helpful, posting up some bs like that is just rude and you deserved the reply. This site is to help not making it more difficult for people to learn how to do stuff. Just remember the short 11 months back when you joined did you know everything. Have you made any real attempt to contribute to this site or are all your posts from that sort of thing giving ****ty responses to serious questions.
Heres that link
http://lukasz.szmit.eu/2009/12/04/making-your-own-rooted-android-rom/
On a side note your both from NY settle it like men.
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I honestly hate when people do that ****...
The guy has 70+ posts....has been a member since 2007 you really think that he didnt search here and on google..
Considering I have been searching both places myself for over a month and all I come up with is premade custom roms... No reading on how to make a custom rom myself... What really gets me is that I read and I seem to be more confused..
With android running RUU's and signed.nbh's. Why do we have to update via a zip file... In the article that explains how to make a custom rom I found just today he says that RUU's dont allow any customization. Which is funny to me because Ive been cooking WM roms for years now which cooks the rom then signs and packs the nbh file into the RUU. I honestly have been looking for a kitchen but I dont think one exists as of yet...
Im not ready to load up YDL on my ps3 to figure out how to trim down an android rom.
Hopefully there will be a kitchen released on the same lines as say Ervius's Visual Kitchen. Just takes time. Took years for some real brains most being from this site and ppcgeeks to compile all the tools to make a rom like that.
Now that is helpful, posting up some bs like that is just rude and you deserved the reply. This site is to help not making it more difficult for people to learn how to do stuff. Just remember the short 11 months back when you joined did you know everything. Have you made any real attempt to contribute to this site or are all your posts from that sort of thing giving ****ty responses to serious questions.
Heres that link
http://lukasz.szmit.eu/2009/12/04/making-your-own-rooted-android-rom/
On a side note your both from NY settle it like men.
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Just as jubeh has said, there isn't really a definitive way to cook roms. You either no, or you don't. I would first try to grab the stuff from aosp, and just piece together what comes after that
There isn't a kitchen for the dream/magic as far as I know, but the folks over at MoDaCo have kitchen's for other android phones (such as the Hero and Nexus).
JAguirre1231 said:
Just as jubeh has said, there isn't really a definitive way to cook roms. You either no, or you don't. I would first try to grab the stuff from aosp, and just piece together what comes after that
There isn't a kitchen for the dream/magic as far as I know, but the folks over at MoDaCo have kitchen's for other android phones (such as the Hero and Nexus).
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Well thats good to know that there is a kitchen for some android phones at least. I never even think about looking at MoDaCo..huh
Ill just wait for a kitchen because I dont have to time to learn all the manual commands to be honest with you. Its just my girls phone anyway..lol
I wish I had more time like I did when I learned how to do my own wm roms.
Wow just checked out the hero kitchen....Looks exciting. Online though?? Whatever's clever I guess. Im excited though cant wait for other releases. He says in the post it will be available for other roms when the kitchen is fully developed for the hero. woot
reeg420 said:
I honestly hate when people do that ****...
The guy has 70+ posts....has been a member since 2007 you really think that he didnt search here and on google..
Considering I have been searching both places myself for over a month and all I come up with is premade custom roms... No reading on how to make a custom rom myself... What really gets me is that I read and I seem to be more confused..
With android running RUU's and signed.nbh's. Why do we have to update via a zip file... In the article that explains how to make a custom rom I found just today he says that RUU's dont allow any customization. Which is funny to me because Ive been cooking WM roms for years now which cooks the rom then signs and packs the nbh file into the RUU. I honestly have been looking for a kitchen but I dont think one exists as of yet...
Im not ready to load up YDL on my ps3 to figure out how to trim down an android rom.
Hopefully there will be a kitchen released on the same lines as say Ervius's Visual Kitchen. Just takes time. Took years for some real brains most being from this site and ppcgeeks to compile all the tools to make a rom like that.
Now that is helpful, posting up some bs like that is just rude and you deserved the reply. This site is to help not making it more difficult for people to learn how to do stuff. Just remember the short 11 months back when you joined did you know everything. Have you made any real attempt to contribute to this site or are all your posts from that sort of thing giving ****ty responses to serious questions.
Heres that link
http://lukasz.szmit.eu/2009/12/04/making-your-own-rooted-android-rom/
On a side note your both from NY settle it like men.
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It is really not that hard to search. You mentioned him having 70+ posts... It makes him look more idiotic for not being able to find something, rather than making a new thread here.
I took 1 minute to find this post:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/wiki/Building
Ofcourse from Google...
And to answer your question (as JA said earlier) there isn't a definitive way of cooking the rom. You either know it or you don't.
If you don't have the time to learn it, was it necessary to "rant" about how much you know and why people should just be frank about the answers on forums?
But you see what I'm talking about. YOU found another link for "cooking ROMs." If the OP actually dedicated some time, instead of thinking that he'll easily learn the language and become the next Cyanogen, he'll get some where. Developing ROMs is not an easy task, ask any of the devs, especially when you start out.
If you do not have the patience to learn and discover, you will get no where (I'm not referring directly to you). And honestly, setting up your computer to develop ROMs is, imo, the easiest part. If you can't get that, then developing will be a tedious task.
This is probably as close as you're gonna get to a guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566235
(found with an xda search)
I want to take a pre-existing rom apart, mod it to what I want and rebuild it. Where do I begin? I have got a Linux Mint computer that will be dedicated to this. I have looked at Android Kitchen, but see no support for it anymore. I want to learn how to build roms for our Notes, just need fingers showing me how. OH and before I get flamed I have done alot of googling on the subject and don't know what to do specifically for our phones. I am asking for help.
Thanks.