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Sipdroid + GV + Skype Lite = Skype voip?

Here is a question (let me know if this is a re-post):
There is a way to make free calls in the US using Sipdroid full, Gizmo5 and GV (if you have a google voice account) per this guide:
http://iiordanov.blogspot.com/2009/07/sipdroid-gv-guava.html
This works great when I use GV to call any U.S. number. I decided to try to add Skype Lite to the mix. I set up GV to control any outgoing call in hope that the call that Skype out calls will be intercepted by GV and then routed through Gizmo5 to Sipdroid. I used Skype lite to call my home number (I have Skypeout unlimited world) and even though I got the call back through Sipdroid and heard the ringing tune in my G1, My home phone never rang.
What did I do wrong?
Any change this can work?

Why would you want to use skype? Its just a proprietary mess. You can simply use sipdroid straight up with any generic sip account.

lbcoder said:
Why would you want to use skype? Its just a proprietary mess. You can simply use sipdroid straight up with any generic sip account.
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I am using Skype for several years at home. I have unlimited world account for international calls, I have phone adapters at home that work with Skype and an impatient wife that would kill me if I introduce another solutions. All my friends using Skype to communicate. I don't want to have duplicate services or change my life.

al74 said:
I am using Skype for several years at home. I have unlimited world account for international calls, I have phone adapters at home that work with Skype and an impatient wife that would kill me if I introduce another solutions. All my friends using Skype to communicate. I don't want to have duplicate services or change my life.
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Thats too bad. Skype, being proprietary, does not and will not ever dominate the voip market -- you're going to have to ditch it eventually. It's easier to do it now rather than wait until you have no choice.

Free SMS App?

Is there any app out there that lets you send free sms?

google voice

any others?

SMS is a feature of your cell provider, not the phone, so there is no magical free SMS app.
Google Voice routes incoming text via their own servers, as opposed to your provider's. It then has the option to either forward it to your phone as an actual SMS (in which case you will incur the usual charges) or via the data connection (GPRS/EDGE/3G), in which case it will be "free" since it bypasses providers' networks. However, forwarding is the default behavior unless you turn it off in your account settings at http://voice.google.com.

did you search in the market. i think there may be one ( i know there was one a while back) but how reliable it is, i cannot tell you (unlimited sms)

you could just use aim to send sms for free. as long as you have a data plan.

i know for a fact that there are free sms apps out there. search the market.

Or quit being cheap and get the data plan with unlimited texts.

This is a good question. It's either you being ripped off by the big companies or you being considered "cheap". If you have a data plan (which I'm guessing you do if you have a G1), you could just use email to text people's numbers. Most popular carriers let people receive texts from email, so if my number was (555)555-5555, you can email to [email protected] for verizon, [email protected] for AT&T, [email protected] for T-Mobile, and a few others listed here and at other places on the Internet.
To read more about the ongoing ripoff that is what we know as SMS, read below:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/business/28digi.html?_r=3
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/14/txts_r_v_pricey/
You can also find more info on it by Googling "sms ripoff".

if you use google voice then the first time you text someone your phone will ask you to use messaging or google voice, choose google voice and check the box to make it default. From that point on you will text like normal but everything will go out via google voice. The only downfall is that people have to send texts to your google voice number instead of your phone number and google voice's app sometimes has a couple minute delay on receiving the sms.

supremeteam256 said:
Or quit being cheap and get the data plan with unlimited texts.
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No! I'm sick of bending over to the carriers.
<rant mode>
I refuse to pay their exuberant prices for services that cost them NOTHING. I already pay for data (btw, the US data plans are one of the most expensive in the world), so how is it that different from text? I understand charging extra for MMS since it puts extra load on the network, but friggin' TEXT?!? Come on. The only reason there hasn't been a major public outrage about this ridiculous scam is because the silent majority of texters are teenagers whose phone bills are paid by mommies and daddies.
</rant mode>

Sprint Visual Voicemail on ICS

I have heard that sprint visual voicemail works on the nexus on ics can anyone help
I have got the vtt-sprint.apk installed it and updated prl and prolfile on wifi and 3g/4g and still cant get the activation message to go through.

VVM on Sprint Network
I hate to be the bearer of bad news. First, VVM does work, but in order to get it to work you must completely switch to Google Voice. To do this, from any computer that you are logged into with your google account, visit google.com/voice and completely set that up. It will ask you to pick a new telephone number and it will walk you through setting up the voicemail box and all that.
Once you have all that set up it will allow you to forward calls to your cell. I recommend this rather than switching completely to Google Voice.
You can further, once you've completed this, from within your Sprint Account, choose to use strictly Google Voice but this will mean you will either forfeit the new number you just chose, or the one you have on your phone.
If you choose to keep your original number that was on th ephone first, it will migrate to your Google Voice box and your call forwarding will become a hardwired thing... Google will no longer forward calls to another number, but rather all calls to your cell number will forward to your device through hardware routing performed solely at the discretion of Google.
Sprint will, in a sense, no longer have any control over your call routing. It really makes for a total disaster to get problems resolved if you ever experience call routing issues.
In my opinion, this is an awful lot to go through, too large of a chance for errors and a royal pain in the neck to go through just for visual voicemail.
I have the closest thing possible set up... I use the number I assigned to my Google Voice box, and I set up forwarding to my phone(it's nice because I can also answer calls from my computer if I want, and if I ever change carriers I keep the number on my Google Voice box and simply set it back up to forward to another cell phone number on another carrier).
If someone calls my google voice number, it automatically forwards to my cell. If I do not answer, it reverts back to my Google Voice box voicemail and if the caller leaves a message it records it for me, transcribes it and both text's it to me and leaves a copy of the transcript in my gmail box for me for later review. It also attaches the recording to the email. Very nice feature.
So, now, I only hand out my Google Voice number and nobody ever knows my actual cell phone number. Very private if you ask me, that, and if I ever terminate my service with my cell carrier, I still have the number I give to every one and can answer it from my Gmail box. No cell phone required. I never miss calls...
There are other options with Google Voice I did not discuss here, but you will figure that out. Message me if you have any other questions. Also click thanks on my post to help me become an active member if you think this helps.
Jeff LaPointe

I have had google voice before but i wanted to get the native sprint app working. I have hear that sprint routes the nexus voicemail to a different server so it was never meant to work. but i have heard ppl having it work on GB but i just moved over to ICS and was attempting to get it to work but I can't get the activation message to send

Can you send me the apk so I can have a try at it?
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Voicemail Routing
Working for AT&T, I do know that voicemail routing is going to be your only issue. If a customer has Visual Voicemail, the feature needs to be provisioned as such and, yes, the voicemail repository server is located in a different place on different hardware. Provisioning VVM at AT&T also required that the data feature be provisioned differently. There is data for smart phones with and without vvm attached.
So, if you do not have the visual voicemail feature provisioned on your account with sprint that is the reason you are unable to successfully configure the app. The basic voicemail servers can not handle the VVM. In most cases VVM is free for smart phones, but with sprint, I doubt that to be the case.
I am satisfied with the Google Voice operation and the added layers of security it provides.

heh...clean simple and no hassles -> Go to Market and type in YouMail, download and install, follow prompts through the simple and easy setup, enjoy your new VVM
NS4G: NexusMV 4G 03.01 (Baked in Matr1x) + 1460MHz/1460MHz SmartassV2 & CWM Touch Recovery

I'm gonna call sprint to have them provision my account and try to activate vvm

Spoke with sprint they setup everything on their side and verified it and my activation message still won't go thru I I might be the apk. I tried the gb apk but it fc when I try to send

They are saying its a phone based routing problem (blaming ICS) because it works in gb and they cite a flaw in the ICS VVM API
Its a sad song

Here you go guys, enjoy.
SOLVED
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547780

Google Voice Visual Voicemail Integrated Into Stock Dialer
After a while of trying to tamper with Sprint's visual voicemail, I found that it was just easier to go with Google Voice. The new integration with ICS makes it even better.

I don't think sprint vvm is supported on the nexus
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Here is a working Sprint Visual Voicemail method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547780
Hope this helps out.

Google Voice for text?

How exactly does Google voice work? I want to set it up for text so I don't have to pay att the 20 dollars a month for unlimited text. For calls I'll stick with carrier I don't know how much data a call will eat up.
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You're going to want to Google that from your computer. You need to set it up from there
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darkchyldx101 said:
How exactly does Google voice work? I want to set it up for text so I don't have to pay att the 20 dollars a month for unlimited text. For calls I'll stick with carrier I don't know how much data a call will eat up.
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keep in mind that mms also goes over text plan, so any mms would have to be google voice as well.

I really don't text much right now I pay 5 bucks for 200 text. But when I upgrade soon it seems I'll have a choice between $20/month for unlimited text or .20 cent for every text. Just wondering if Google voice is a better alternative.
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darkchyldx101 said:
How exactly does Google voice work?
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For calls I'll stick with carrier I don't know how much data a call will eat up.
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gVoice does not work that way! A call is still a call, why go through the extra effort to make something VoIP when the current system for wireless audio transmission works very well. Google is never going to make the Android app do VoIP.
Also gVoice does not support MMS, thanks to social media sites/apps and web browers on the phone, there is no reason for gVoice to support them. Again another system exists that does a better job. The purpose to gVoice is not to bypass the services that wireless providers offer, it is to make managing multiple numbers an easier process (just as the video says). One other thing is that gVoice does not work with other text servers, only actual phone numbers. So no texting "LOL" to 12345 to vote for something on TV.
As to "how exactly" it works. Simply put gVoice is a redirection service.
They give you a what is essentially a mobile number that you hand out to whomever you wish, then you tell gVoice what numbers you want it to contact when it's number is called or gets a text. With the app it automaticaly adds your cell number to the list.
A call works like this: Person A dials the gVoice number, a computer answers and calls you, you answer and person A is forwarded to you. The exact opposite is true for the other direction. You > computer > person & forwards. If you watched the video explaining gVoice then you'll see that you can have gVoice dial multiple numbers at once on in-coming calls.
A text works like this: Person A sends a text to the gVoice number, a computer receives the text. At this point, it can either send you a text acting exactly the same as a call, or you can have it do nothing and rely on the app to let you know a text was sent to gVoice. Sending a text via the app is just like posting something via twitter or such except that instead of it going to a web site it goes to a computer that sends a text back to Person A. gVoice will figure out how to break up the message on its own for the size limit of a text, if sending to another gVoice number it sends the whole message and one piece.
If you want more exact then that you'll have to ask Google.
Now, due to the nature of the system there are a lot of neat/useful/mean things you can do. you can have gVoice block numbers instead of relying on the carrier. you can have all calls from one grouping of people get redirected to a specific number (to only your cell, or only to home,maybe even to one that is not actually yours ). you can set up some groups to be forwarded immediately, and others be given a prompt (your end) to screen their calls. you can save yourself from needing text messaging by relying on the app. you can give specific groups a different recording that they hear when they call and have to leave a message (if you use gVoice as your voicemail). Or you can do like me, and give some people the gVoice number and others only the cell number, so that if I ever have a reason to change the cell number the gVoice users are none the wiser.

I guess the best thing to do is give it a try. If its doesn't work the way I need it to I'll guess I'll have to choose the unlimited text plan. Thanks for the info.
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For what it's worth, i have the $5 / 200 text plan + Google voice. I use the AT&T mms on the 200 texts and Google voice for everything else. It works great for me because i can send text messages from my browser when i can't use my phone (plus i type faster on a full keyboard), and i don't have to worry about overages. I don't call that much, so minutes aren't an issue.
I liked that voice let he pick a number that made sense to me.
Also, if someone sends an mms to your Google voice number, you can have it set up to go to your gmail.

I use Google voice as a separate thing. I have a tmobile pay as you go plan on my captivate. As long as I have wifi. I get free texting through Google voice. Note, you get a separate number assigned by area. Porting your own number costs 20 bucks.
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I use Google voice to call people so they don't get my actual number, I also text on it, but you can't receive mms which sucks, but you can use Google Voice And Textfree for mms
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[Q] Porting phone number from AT&T to Google Voice and using Straight Talk?

Should I port my number to Google Voice?
What are the issues with having your number on Google Voice?
I will soon be switching from AT&T to an MVNO (probably straight talk). I don't totally understand the process and benefits. It seems like people recommend doing this in order to avoid hassles when changing MVNOs. I know it costs $20 but it gives you some benefits like backing up your communications and more ownership of your number.
I have an unlocked T-Mobile Moto X.

Do you MMS?
Skip Google Voice
Texting isn't as reliable over data than via cell radios in my experience.
MVNO's have high data pings, if you can stand this then you are fine saving $15 a month, otherwise just go with GoPhone, same ping as postpaid, no data speed caps, roughly same coverage map, and you keep AT&T customer support.
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Almost 2 years ago I ported my number from Verizon to Google Voice before switching to Straight Talk, primarily because it was my published business number and I wasn't comfortable trusting Straight Talk with it. About 5 months ago I switched to GoPhone, and a few weeks ago I ported my number from Google Voice to GoPhone, and posted "Why I'm ditching Google Voice as my public number" at Android Forums:
Almost 20 months ago I ported my number from Verizon to Google Voice, bought a Galaxy Nexus, and activated it on Straight Talk (I've since switched to AT&T Go Phone). I told no one, and used my Google Voice number as my only number. Immediately I noticed the latency on voice calls, resulting in lots of me talking over the other party, or vice versa. During the 20 or so months of use, I've seen absolutely no improvement in this area. As a result, this morning I put in a port request to transfer my Google Voice number to AT&T.
There have been other issues too, like:
The crappy UI and pathetic attempt at threading GV conversations
The inability to use Google Voice for quick responses when ignoring an incoming call (the API and permissions have existed in Android since 4.3)
Lack of MMS support
Incompatibility with some services (i.e. banks) that send texts to mobile numbers
The concept of Google Voice is great - one number, forever and always. It made it very easy for me recently when I was testing out the Nexus 5 and Moto X - I could use either phone and no one knew I was changing phones on a (sometimes) daily basis.
For those who primarily use data and texting, and make/receive few voice calls, it may not be a deal breaker, but for me the frustration of the voice latency far outweighs the benefits, even if all the other issues I listed are fixed.
But... once my port is complete, I'll probably get another GV number for use as voicemail, and for exchanges with possible Craigslist buyers, or others I don't want to give my real number to. In that case, the benefit of anonymity outweighs the downside of the latency.
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pa5tabear said:
Should I port my number to Google Voice?
What are the issues with having your number on Google Voice?
I will soon be switching from AT&T to an MVNO (probably straight talk). I don't totally understand the process and benefits. It seems like people recommend doing this in order to avoid hassles when changing MVNOs. I know it costs $20 but it gives you some benefits like backing up your communications and more ownership of your number.
I have an unlocked T-Mobile Moto X.
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UncleMike said:
Almost 2 years ago I ported my number from Verizon to Google Voice before switching to Straight Talk, primarily because it was my published business number and I wasn't comfortable trusting Straight Talk with it. About 5 months ago I switched to GoPhone, and a few weeks ago I ported my number from Google Voice to GoPhone, and posted "Why I'm ditching Google Voice as my public number" at Android Forums:
Almost 20 months ago I ported my number from Verizon to Google Voice, bought a Galaxy Nexus, and activated it on Straight Talk (I've since switched to AT&T Go Phone). I told no one, and used my Google Voice number as my only number. Immediately I noticed the latency on voice calls, resulting in lots of me talking over the other party, or vice versa. During the 20 or so months of use, I've seen absolutely no improvement in this area. As a result, this morning I put in a port request to transfer my Google Voice number to AT&T.
There have been other issues too, like:
The crappy UI and pathetic attempt at threading GV conversations
The inability to use Google Voice for quick responses when ignoring an incoming call (the API and permissions have existed in Android since 4.3)
Lack of MMS support
Incompatibility with some services (i.e. banks) that send texts to mobile numbers
The concept of Google Voice is great - one number, forever and always. It made it very easy for me recently when I was testing out the Nexus 5 and Moto X - I could use either phone and no one knew I was changing phones on a (sometimes) daily basis.
For those who primarily use data and texting, and make/receive few voice calls, it may not be a deal breaker, but for me the frustration of the voice latency far outweighs the benefits, even if all the other issues I listed are fixed.
But... once my port is complete, I'll probably get another GV number for use as voicemail, and for exchanges with possible Craigslist buyers, or others I don't want to give my real number to. In that case, the benefit of anonymity outweighs the downside of the latency.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but.... I'm under the impression that if you port your number to google voice you don't have to use the google voice app.
I'm sure you could just set up the call forwarding and avoid using the google voice app so you could still have the benefits of your own actual phone number?

drago10029 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but.... I'm under the impression that if you port your number to google voice you don't have to use the google voice app.
I'm sure you could just set up the call forwarding and avoid using the google voice app so you could still have the benefits of your own actual phone number?
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There are two things to consider with Google Voice: calls and texting.
Porting your number to Google Voice does not necessarily require you to use the Google Voice app. You can setup the forwarding so that all calls to your GV number get forwarded to your real number. If you subsequently change your real number, you can easily change the GV forwarding to that new number and callers won't know the difference. For outgoing calls, you can choose to use Google Voice for no calls, all calls, international calls only, or to ask each time you make a call. If you don't use GV for a call, your real number will appear to the called party - ruining the transparency of Google Voice (that I enjoyed while testing phones). This may not be a problem for you.
For texting you have several options:
use the GV app to read and send "texts" - this maintains the transparency of Google Voice, and others send texts to your GV number and receive texts from your GV number
Skip GV and use another messaging app (including the stock app) - this totally eliminates the transparency since all texts are sent to/from your real number
Use GV's "mapping" feature - others send texts to your GV number, but the GV redirects them to your real number, making them appear in your default messaging app. The caveat here is that the messages you receive this way will appear to be from a number that's different than the number of the person that sent the text, but the message body will be prefixed with the senders name (taken from your contacts). If you send/reply to this other number, the recipient will see the text as coming from your GV number. To really make this method useable, you have to add these alternate numbers to each contact that you text. Also, until you receive a text from someone, you have no way of knowing what their "other" number is.

If you are rooted, you can use xvoiceplus which allows you to use other messaging app instead of Google voice to send or receive text message. You can even make google voice voicemail appear on the phone call log, so you never really have to use the Google voice app directly. But then voice mail thing is kinda buggy; old voicemails sometimes reappear as notification when you restart the phone.
If you can live with sms only then google voice can save you a few bucks every month. Since texting will be done through data instead of cellular signal, it won't be as good when you are in a bad signal area.