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Help with niggly problems on G1

Hello there,
I've tried Googling and searching these threads, and I can't seem to find anyone else with the same problems as me, so if anyone can help me I'd be really grateful!
Basically, I've had a rooted G1 for about 6 months now, started off using JesusFreke, went on to CM and now I'm running the latest ROM with an 8 gig class 6 SD card. Anyway, everything runs smoothly except for a few niggly things. As far as I can remember I've always had most of these problems since rooting, and now they're worse than ever and starting to grate. I don't think it's my particular handset, as this is the second G1 I've had - although as I said, I haven't read of these problems with other people, so I don't really know. The problems in question are:
1. Email isn't very 'pushy' anymore - when I first got my G1, and for a while after first rooting, I was amazed at the push Gmail...I loved it, and it often worked faster than my computer email client could retrieve emails with its 5-minute interval. However, now my G1 seemingly only downloads emails when it can be bothered, and more often than not I'll do a manual refresh to find about 6 emails waiting for me. It's somewhat annoying really.
2. This is another major thing: Locale just won't recognise where it is anymore. I'll go into Locale for a few seconds, it'll snap on to 'home' or 'work', I'll come out and after about five minutes, it'll jump straight onto the default settings again. I'll do this again, and it happens again, etc. My phone knows where it is, as the maps work perfectly, and I'll even tried leaving GPS on all day, but to no avail. This is a major annoying niggle, and it seems to get better/worse with different updates. Has anyone experienced this? At the moment, Locale is virtually unusable.
3. Since I'm asking for help, the other little niggle is that to add shortcuts to my desktop takes an age...I'll do the longpress, click 'shortcut'...and then wait. And wait. As far as I can remember my phone's always done this (even the old one), but if anyone knows what I'm doing wrong it'd be really good.
In fact, if anyone can help me with any of the problems I've described I'd be really happy...the email and Locale thing are starting to become a big nuisance, and I'm starting to think about changing my handset over it, despite my love of Android, the G1 and the excellent CM updates that Cyanogen tirelessly sends out.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mark

I've never had any of those issues the gmail issue is the only one that woulg get me... what rom did you go with this time around?

Hi, I've just got the standard CyanognMod ROM with the latest 4.2.9.1

I have the same Gmail problem.
No idea how to fix it.

I'm going to say it's probably two things together:
1. Low memory. Having had your G1 for a while, you've installed lots of apps. Each app uses RAM. Low RAM makes everything sluggish and buggy. Uninstall anything you don't use regularly. Doing a full wipe and reflash of the htc update image, and then the latest cyanogenmod, will give you a blazing fast phone again, with everything working beautifully (but you'll have lost ALL your installed apps, saved sms, settings, etc.).
2. Task-killing app. You probably use Taskiller, Close Everything, or something like that. It is killing Gmail so it doesn't refresh, killing locale's location service so it doesn't know where it is, etc. Make sure you exclude ANYTHING that runs in the background constantly to work. Basically, anything that does something automatically, or generates a notification, or anything. Email, gmail, messaging, etc.

Not cool
You can't say niggly, only we can say niggly.

gmail push
there is a way to 'Set download frequency' by default.

oneofone1 said:
You can't say niggly, only we can say niggly.
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'Niggly' is a word of Scandinavian origin which in this context essentially means 'irritating'. It is in no way related to similarly spelt offensive words, which is what I think you're getting at.
Anyway, many thanks to all those who posted help, I deleted a load of programs and it helped greatly. I had no idea that having too many apps, even in an apps2sd setup, would impact performance that much.
Still can't get Locale to work properly though. I'll delete a few more apps and see if that helps.

markdjj said:
'Niggly' is a word of Scandinavian origin which in this context essentially means 'irritating'. It is in no way related to similarly spelt offensive words, which is what I think you're getting at.
Anyway, many thanks to all those who posted help, I deleted a load of programs and it helped greatly. I had no idea that having too many apps, even in an apps2sd setup, would impact performance that much.
Still can't get Locale to work properly though. I'll delete a few more apps and see if that helps.
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I think he is quoting "Something Something Something Darkside" It is the new Family Guy movie.

spigatelli said:
I think he is quoting "Something Something Something Darkside" It is the new Family Guy movie.
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+10 pts for being spot on.

Poll: Do you own the Galaxy S? Have a lag?

This may give us some sense on how widespread the issue is. No answers based on informal fixes please.

Meaningless poll.
As long as samsung won't move the app data to the ROM instead of the internal SD, there will be a lag when opening some of the apps.
Menus flow swiftly, though.

Coming from a HTC Touch HD the lag is nonexistent in my view, what stutters people seem to be complaining about are pretty much nonevents to me.

mine had a lag (received today)...until i updated the firmware to JG3. BIG difference now

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Now this is new to me, is JG3 compatible with UK devices?

Pika007 said:
Meaningless poll.
As long as samsung won't move the app data to the ROM instead of the internal SD, there will be a lag when opening some of the apps.
Menus flow swiftly, though.
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It may be meaninless to you, but I would like to have a sense, before purchasing the phone, if this is a widespread issue or just a matter involving few noisy owners. If this is a widespread issue and I need to rely on Samsung's not so impressing update reputation, I may wait a little bit.

al74 said:
It may be meaninless to you, but I would like to have a sense, before purchasing the phone, if this is a widespread issue or just a matter involving few noisy owners. If this is a widespread issue and I need to rely on Samsung's not so impressing update reputation, I may wait a little bit.
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You have to remember, people who come into forums are the one with problems.
Nobody goes to the doctors office and say, "Look I'm healthy and I have no problems." and just walk out. Only those with problems or concerns walk into a doctors office, no?

ConceptVBS said:
You have to remember, people who come into forums are the one with problems.
Nobody goes to the doctors office and say, "Look I'm healthy and I have no problems." and just walk out. Only those with problems or concerns walk into a doctors office, no?
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Not these forums. People come to XDA not only with problems but to learn more about their phone and share experiences, especially those early adopters who buy the phone right away.

I sometimes have a bit of lag, but nothing that makes me think, "why did I buy this phone", for me the Galaxy S is everything I wanted from a Android phone, it's powerful, screen is beautiful and it runs all my apps very smoothly.

The lags happened very rarely and most times the phone is snappy. Such things happened to all phones, even my wife's iphone. Still much better than winmo where most things lagged big time.
Though after I switched to using autokiller with aggressive setting, I dun get the lags anymore. My free memory also stay above 100mb all the time without me having to kill any apps manually

I disabled the samsung widgets and i am alot better now.

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We don't have the same phone or we don't know what a lag is
When I try to delete a mail it takes between 10s to 30s. If it is not a lag what is it??
On the iphone I can't tel you how fast it is as it is less than 1 seconde
And I have flashed my phone to the new rom ...
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nicoloco said:
2 solutions :
We don't have the same phone or we don't know what a lag is
When I try to delete a mail it takes between 10s to 30s. If it is not a lag what is it??
On the iphone I can't tel you how fast it is as it is less than 1 seconde
And I have flashed my phone to the new rom ...
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But the thing with your example is, is it really deleting the email in 1 second or is it just displaying the email is gone and just spending 9 seconds in the background actually deleting it?
It's nothing to make it appear that the email has actually gone while it actually does the work in it's own time.

trinikartel said:
mine had a lag (received today)...until i updated the firmware to JG3. BIG difference now
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I was using it for over a week, then flashed JG3. Lags seems pretty much gone with this firmware.

I got quite horrendous lag at times on the original firmware (JF3).
Now I am on JG1 with the MoDaCo R2 ROM and Autokiller (set to aggressive originally, now trying on optimum) and I don't seem to get much lag at all, if any. It is like a different phone.
Unfortunately I did have to do a factory reset last night but that was other problems - I do hope that's not a regular occurrence though.

when I say it's a lag i mean that during 10 to 30 sec the phone is blocked with the popup box where you hit the button delete.
I must confess I don't reallycare if the mail is really gone or not in 1s ... what I know is that I have to wait 20sec to be able to open a new mail.
If the iphone is smart enough to display the mail as deleted and let me work on another one while it is really deleting the mail on the background ... it might mean that it has 2 years of advance compared to my phone as it is now. I prefer to believe that's not the case

last night I couldn't get the phone to accept my unlock pattern. had to turn it off completely and then turn it on again...
by "not accept" i mean the screen wouldn't light up red or green when i was swiping my finger over it and the screen would turn on and off.
I'm doing a factory reset now.
I also can't use the kies program - the mtp application flicks on and off.
hoping the factory reset will solve my problems...

SoreGums said:
last night I couldn't get the phone to accept my unlock pattern. had to turn it off completely and then turn it on again...
by "not accept" i mean the screen wouldn't light up red or green when i was swiping my finger over it and the screen would turn on and off.
I'm doing a factory reset now.
I also can't use the kies program - the mtp application flicks on and off.
hoping the factory reset will solve my problems...
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I understand that you may have issues but this has nothing to do with a lag, which is what this poll and thread all about.

I just tested mine now, I have the stock JF3(?) ROM that came with the phone, I deleted an email from my Hotmail, and replied to a different email in 2 seconds, no lag in email at all.

Tachikoma_kun said:
I just tested mine now, I have the stock JF3(?) ROM that came with the phone, I deleted an email from my Hotmail, and replied to a different email in 2 seconds, no lag in email at all.
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I noticed lag sometimes on my JF3 but only when using Yahoo Mail application (from Yahoo Inc.), it just stuck in black screen at either email-loading or going back for some seconds (and many times pop-up came-up to Force Close the application _but_ after some seconds application came back).
This is the only lag I am facing related to emails. Other lag I some time notice in Dolphin HD browser when opening it first time OR switching to new link. Default browser is very fast as compare to this.

[Q] 4 random questions...

I'm looking for a new phone, so if someone could answer these questions I would really appreciate it.
1. Is it possible to change the font size of the text on this phone for menus, sms, web browsing, apps etc.. everything in general?
2. Just something I heard not sure if it's true but, does the super AMOLED really use 2x the power for white color backgrounds than for ANY other color? That would be really bad for web browsing which I intend to use quite a lot.
3. How much does the battery last with only web browsing over wifi and music player in the background?
4. Any tips about Galaxy S or things you don't like about it? (whatever comes to your mind really)
thanks

Well , at least i got no problems with the baterry life at all , i can use it all day with music on and playibg games browsing etc... Also the super amoled is simply amazing. Overall i really like the phone at all points , the only disadvantages of it are the lag problem wich can easily be fixed and hopefully by samsung in the nearby future. Also its knowb that the gps is not working well but i didnt try this yet

be more specific.
the GPS works
the problem people are complaining about is that the GPS is not accurate enough for some people

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3. How much does the battery last with only web browsing over wifi and music player in the background?
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Do you mean 'How long does it last with just some regular web browsing and music playing ?' or do you mean 'How long can I browse the net for before I kill the battery ?'
The first one: the battery will last you just fine to look up a few things here and there and generally be a daily driver.
The second one: A lot less than you think. You will get maybe 3ish hours with the screen lit between charges. The level of brightness and other things on the phone can change this, but seriously, don't be thinking about spending a great deal of time with the screen active unless you have some source of power.
Either way, this is not a problem with the SGS, ALL phones with big screens regardless of os or manufacturer have problems with battery life, at least in the sense that they never last as much as you'd want to.
As for any other tips and tricks:
Check your GPS when you get it out of the box, then apply one of the fixes if need-be. Some people find that out of the box, they either can't get a lock, or there is a lack of accuracy. I got the first problem, but the fix works fine and now I can satnav with the best of them. The accuracy isn't perfect, but good enough. Before I have been shown as driving 10 yards off the road in a field but it corrected within 30 seconds and its not like it became unusable. I have never had a problem with using the navigation. It has ALWAYS got me where I want to be.
Secondly, for gods sake use a lagfix, even if you don't get lag. As you put more apps on and fill the memory up more, you'll eventually get some slow down, so you may as well nip it in the bud.
If you are going to buy a droid device in the near future, the galaxy is the phone to buy. Get one, you will NOT be disappointed.

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If you are going to buy a droid device in the near future, the galaxy is the phone to buy. Get one, you will NOT be disappointed.
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Totally agree , even though still hoping that samsung will bring us a bugless froyo very soon.

Could someone answer the first question please?
Here I thought of another one... Does the alarm clock work with the phone closed?

Fonts can be changed depending if app supports it. I use lcd density changer. And of cause alarm works but do you mean when phone is totaly powered off? No idea
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3t3rnity said:
Could someone answer the first question please?
Here I thought of another one... Does the alarm clock work with the phone closed?
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Not sure how to interpret "phone closed". Screen off, yes it works. Phone in a case, yes it works. Phone off, no it doesnt work. If I've missed what you've meant please clarify.

alovell83 said:
Not sure how to interpret "phone closed". Screen off, yes it works. Phone in a case, yes it works. Phone off, no it doesnt work. If I've missed what you've meant please clarify.
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My bad, I meant with phone OFF.
Well.. that's actually quite sad. Is it possible to make it work with an app or by rooting the phone?

[Q] About ready to flush my captivate.. can you help? LOL [Rantish i'm sorry =( ]

I got my captivate on launch day (well 2 days after due to shipping) I stayed with stock for awhile and just did the lag fix.. it was ok.. i think the first rom i did was cognition.. or perception one or the other then did the other after that.. ran those for a bit.. tried CM7 (i think that was in january?) then firefly then something else and then netflix hit.. and i went to Continuum (v5.4.1) and thats where i sit now.. and i'm about really to go back to a iphone (also i REALLY REALLY hate that idea.. i like the iphone it self but i cant stand apple)
heres my main issues. lockups and slow downs. my phone hasnt ever been prone to locking up. until about a month or so ago (a week or 2 after flashing continuum_) so i'm guessing its something i installed that continuum dosnt like or its continuum it self.. with way it looks like i'm probably gonna be flashing something else no idea what.. what ever it is i want to to support netflix (Suggestions?) as far as slow downs.. the away it sits now if i open up the browser and do a search then back out of that to my home screen it takes it a good 5-10 seconds to load the icons and widgets on my home screen.. very annoying might not seem like much very it dose get VERY old
i know most of that is due to the rom.. but that also brings up another concern i've having..
I like android.. i really do love the live wallpapers altho halk the time i dont have one selected due to it might be slowing down my phone (see above).. when updating apps on my phone (say having 2-3 apps to update and clicking the update all button) makes the phone SOOO laggy (had this on all roms i've used) that i cant even receive a phone call untill its done downloading and installing them all.. thats annoying but i can live with it.. another issue.. turning on wifi/bluetooth.. i turn off my wifi every day when i goto work np.. get off at 6am come home goto bed.. wake up and usually check my email ect.. and before that i turn on my wifi.. about 15% of the time it wont turn on.. it says error in the setting menu.. try a few times.. still error.. do i have to reboot the phone.. just to turn wifi on.. bluetooth does the same thing.. except alot less often (mainly because i only use bluetooth for my stereo headphone and thats maybe once a week)
now alot of that can probably be traced back to roms.. but.. if i want to keep using android am i going to have to constantly be changing roms to try and find whats the best? so far i'm flashing a new rom about every month (i know some of you do it every week)... and really i just want one thats gonna work.. all the time.. i know wheres gonna be bugs every now and then even teh jesus phone has them and has to be updated..but when it take my 15 seconds to unlock my phone because i just gotta text message and the screen fade out right as i pull it outta my pocket is getting old
now for hardware side LOL.. main issue.. the damn capacitive buttons i've made a post about this before.. and i know theres not much that can be done.. but MAN are they annoying.. 1/2 i have to repetatly hit the buttons just for them to see that i've hit them at all... some times its 10-20 times before i picks up that i hit the back button at all (i use back the most) The gps.. well at first (stock) was HORRIBLE 20 minutes to get a lock.. the last few roms i've used have worked better (usually gets a like in under 30 seconds but some times loses it.. for no real reason like i drive under a tree for 1 second.. but i RARELY use the gps.. last time i used it was months ago so not sure how i would work actually driving now.. usually use it for google maps and such
apps.. (here is the only point i'm gonna compare apple and android).. we all know apple has more apps blah blah blah.. BUT android isnt THAT far behind in number or apps.. my issue with them is 'polish' or quality of apps.. not sure if this is that iOS is easier to make thinks look 'good' or what but.. if you look at.. say HD wallpaper apps on android .. thes a ton of them and they all have a very.. plain GUI nothing special about them.. iOS seems to be better looking.. no necessarily better content but been GUI to the apps i do like the openness of the android market just about anything and everything is all in 1 market (altho i am liking amazons market free app a day) when as iOS you have the app store and cydia (and installious if you choose). your not gonna find any SNES emulators on the app store but you can find them on cydia where as on android they are all in the market (altho they did just purge them a bit ago but i'm starting to see them come back)
One thing i have noticed sence i got my andoid i play less games on it then i did my iphone
I know this has been kinda a rant and hopefully you can help me.. i do like my captivate.. but at the same time i am due for a upgrade anytime i want.. and i dont really see anything coming out on ATT that is really any better then my captivate (captivate runs everything i've tried just fine.. excpet needing certian roms for netflix and no hulu app support yet)
I guess i'm just looking for the fence see the greener grass.. logicly i know its no better... but the idea if just using it and not having alot of the issues i'm having now sounds VERY nice...

Sounds like you should wipe your system. I would recommend using Titanium Backup, especially the Pro version as it can automate the backup/restore process. Search around the forums and you can find how to go back to either stock 2.2 or 2.3. See if that makes a difference for ya.

I can understand your frustrations with the phone, especially in the lagginess area. Just out of curiousity, what launcher are you using? Sometimes that can have an effect on your overall perceived speed. Also, if you haven't already done this, go into display settings and change your screen timeout to something longer. That might stop that particular annoyance.
I don't know what widgets you're using, but in general, the more widgets you have going, the more sluggish your phone will be. You could also try switching background data off (or at least auto-syncing), as that can slow things down, too.
As far as stability goes, if you're in the Gingerbread world, right now, things aren't going to be ultra-stable. Development of roms overall right now is going well, but it's still in an earlier stage of development. If you need stability, it might be best to head to Froyo for a while, where there are a lot of good, solid roms that would probably suit your needs. (Can't comment on netflix, as I don't use that app.)
You may find that your capacitive buttons become more responsive as you remove other lag factors, but I can't guarantee that. It's a little bit of the nature of the beast.
The gaming area on Android isn't as developed as the iOS version, but there are still some good quality games out there. Give Dungeon Defenders a shot (if that's your sort of thing), or Backbreaker, or Robo Defense. All of these look pretty good and are a lot of fun.
Ultimately, just like the previous poster said, a system wipe and restart might do you some good. Just back up the things that are crucial, and see where a "format internal sd" gets you.

jmtheiss said:
I can understand your frustrations with the phone, especially in the lagginess area. Just out of curiousity, what launcher are you using? Used a few AWD launch, twiz, sony erricson, launcher pro Sometimes that can have an effect on your overall perceived speed. Also, if you haven't already done this, go into display settings and change your screen timeout to something longer. That might stop that particular annoyance. Current screen timeout is 1 minute.
I don't know what widgets you're using, but in general, the more widgets you have going, the more sluggish your phone will be. You could also try switching background data off (or at least auto-syncing), as that can slow things down, too. only using 2 Fancy widget for clock and weather and the power widget oh and a widget for screen filter set to 20%
As far as stability goes, if you're in the Gingerbread world, right now, things aren't going to be ultra-stable. Development of roms overall right now is going well, but it's still in an earlier stage of development. If you need stability, it might be best to head to Froyo for a while, where there are a lot of good, solid roms that would probably suit your needs. (Can't comment on netflix, as I don't use that app.)
You may find that your capacitive buttons become more responsive as you remove other lag factors, but I can't guarantee that. It's a little bit of the nature of the beast. i have been a issue really from the start..
The gaming area on Android isn't as developed as the iOS version, but there are still some good quality games out there. Give Dungeon Defenders a shot (if that's your sort of thing), or Backbreaker, or Robo Defense. All of these look pretty good and are a lot of fun.
Ultimately, just like the previous poster said, a system wipe and restart might do you some good. Just back up the things that are crucial, and see where a "format internal sd" gets you. Yeah.. i've done this.. many times.. thats one issue i have.. is this gonna be a never ending cycle?
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10charters =P

Also remember that restoring data saved from a 2.2 based rom can cause issues if you are restoring to new GB based rom. If you want a rom that just works then u would say stay stock. As for your apps reloading I see this alot when people load way tooo many shortcuts on their homescreen. With the folder programs and app drawers there is no real reason for having more then say 5 or 6 shortcuts on a single page of the launcher.

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Also remember that restoring data saved from a 2.2 based rom can cause issues if you are restoring to new GB based rom. If you want a rom that just works then u would say stay stock. As for your apps reloading I see this alot when people load way tooo many shortcuts on their homescreen. With the folder programs and app drawers there is no real reason for having more then say 5 or 6 shortcuts on a single page of the launcher.
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I have maybe 5-6 short cuts spread on 2-3 screens i keep everything other then handcent, mail, market, amazon market, gallery and camara in teh app tray

^ What zelendel said.
You could also try Zeam launcher. I've used that one in the past, and it's pretty snappy. Also, try turning the weather updates off on the fancy widget for a couple of days and see if that helps.
It doesn't have to be a never-ending cycle. In the same vein as what zelendel is suggesting, it might be worthwhile just to see how much you can simplify your interface and still live with how it works. I recently went from having 5 screens of shortcuts to 3, and I've noticed that the phone seems snappier overall.

Flash to stock KF1 Gingerbread and remove the bloatware. It runs Netflix great and I don't have many lag problems. If I do its when I'm trying to run music while browsing the internet while texting and having games open in the background. Other than that it really is a solid build since its straight from Samsung and isn't having to use a reoriented kernel. If that isn't what you like then try Serendipity 7, I tried GR-12 when Serendipity was in its early stages and it was nice, but I like the idea of having the *proper bootloaders (whether it really makes a difference, I don't know, but placebos are powerful).
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Is it possible to turn off the warning for battery 30 %?

IF there is something I really don't need then it is to know that there's about 1/3 of the power left in the battery! I would like to stop that warning, but I can't find anywhere to do that. Is it possible, or is it a quirk I'll have to live with on this phone? They all have some quirks, just in different areas.

Mastiff said:
IF there is something I really don't need then it is to know that there's about 1/3 of the power left in the battery! I would like to stop that warning, but I can't find anywhere to do that. Is it possible, or is it a quirk I'll have to live with on this phone? They all have some quirks, just in different areas.
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And the warning is so loud.. I have reported this to Sony so I hope they will change it
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Yeah, hope is always eternal, but I'm afraid that's not likely, since the accelerometer problem (which means that the screen won't follow the phone's direction, but stay in portrait mode) hasn't yet been fixed several months after the first reports. So the best would be if it was possible to fix through an app with a rooted phone or something like that.

Mastiff said:
Yeah, hope is always eternal, but I'm afraid that's not likely, since the accelerometer problem (which means that the screen won't follow the phone's direction, but stay in portrait mode) hasn't yet been fixed several months after the first reports. So the best would be if it was possible to fix through an app with a rooted phone or something like that.
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That one is fixed... Have you not yet received the nougat update?
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I am on Nougat from about a week ago (Telenor for Norway), and it is most definitively not fixed, at least not in this phone. The phone doesn't rotate at all except for when I use an app, Screen rotate.

Mastiff said:
I am on Nougat from about a week ago (Telenor for Norway), and it is most definitively not fixed, at least not in this phone. The phone doesn't rotate at all except for when I use an app, Screen rotate.
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I am on beta and it worked from day one here.
I guess you should try a software reset.
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How about three resets in two days? I bought the phone a week ago, after years of Samsung. Took me days to figure out how to root, and in the meantime it had upgraded itself to N because I didn't see what I clicked on (eye operation makes it a bit difficult these days). So I got it downgraded to MM, reset it, backed up the TA files, upgraded to N again, reset it and activated USB debugging for Flashtool, unlocked the bootloader, reset it again and finally set it up the day before yesterday. So I seriously doubt that another rest would change much.
Edit: Oh, and it may be different from phone to phone. According to your sig you do not have the same phone as me.

Mastiff said:
How about three resets in two days? I bought the phone a week ago, after years of Samsung. Took me days to figure out how to root, and in the meantime it had upgraded itself to N because I didn't see what I clicked on (eye operation makes it a bit difficult these days). So I got it downgraded to MM, reset it, backed up the TA files, upgraded to N again, reset it and activated USB debugging for Flashtool, unlocked the bootloader, reset it again and finally set it up the day before yesterday. So I seriously doubt that another rest would change much.
Edit: Oh, and it may be different from phone to phone. According to your sig you do not have the same phone as me.
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I have not updated my signature...I have the xp.
It is quite funny as all I know of have gotten their screen rotation fixed with the software update. I guess you are unlucky... Which nougat firmware have you installed?
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I see. So it's the map not fitting the terrain.
Well, maybe I should try yet another reset. I have Titanium, so it's quite easy to get back to where I am now if it doesn't help. I have F8131_Telenor Mobil NO_1303-3350_39.2.A.0.361_R7C

So I did. Reset, and didn't do anything but log into my Google account. When I got through the setup process there was no rotation at all. Then I started thinking. Could it have anything to do with the rooting? I use TWRP and the ANdroPlus kernel, and I checked the AndroPlus website. Turned out that they had a new kernel out just yesterday, and the note got me thinking:
v19
Add support for 39.2.A.0.361
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That was the number on the firmware I'm using. So I flashed that, and bingo! Now I'm rotating! Well, at least my screen is, I don't even dare to think about rotating after yesterday's celebration. Keywords: Crayfish and shrimps, duck breast and chocolate mousse, followed by as many beers as my 50 year old body can take. And that's quite a lot! So today is not my most productive day this year... But thanks for getting me on the right track, if you knew it or not!
Edit: There's a new TWRP recovery as well for the phone, 3.0.3.0, dated a couple of days ago.

Mastiff said:
So I did. Reset, and didn't do anything but log into my Google account. When I got through the setup process there was no rotation at all. Then I started thinking. Could it have anything to do with the rooting? I use TWRP and the ANdroPlus kernel, and I checked the AndroPlus website. Turned out that they had a new kernel out just yesterday, and the note got me thinking:
That was the number on the firmware I'm using. So I flashed that, and bingo! Now I'm rotating! Well, at least my screen is, I don't even dare to think about rotating after yesterday's celebration. Keywords: Crayfish and shrimps, duck breast and chocolate mousse, followed by as many beers as my 50 year old body can take. And that's quite a lot! So today is not my most productive day this year... But thanks for getting me on the right track, if you knew it or not!
Edit: There's a new TWRP recovery as well for the phone, 3.0.3.0, dated a couple of days ago.
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Hilarious ??? good that it worked out for you.
I am glad for the info as it then was kernel related.
Sounds like you had a great time last night. I hope you get a great year to follow ?
Enjoy your rotating Xperia ?
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I have so say that I hope for a great year too, but it may be an intersting one!
Oh, and found out that it wasn't the kernel after all. It was regular rooting with SuperSU that broke the rotation, so now I'm trying the systemless root from phh. I'll let you now if that works, just to complete this part of the thread (which is really so off the original topic that it should have been split to another thread!).

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I have so say that I hope for a great year too, but it may be an intersting one!
Oh, and found out that it wasn't the kernel after all. It was regular rooting with SuperSU that broke the rotation, so now I'm trying the systemless root from phh. I'll let you now if that works, just to complete this part of the thread (which is really so off the original topic that it should have been split to another thread!).
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Thanks man.. I have rooted a lot in the past but I don't want to unlock my bootloader anymore... Back in the days when phones were slower it made sense to root and mess with the config and custom roms.. But today... Not much, what is the reason to why you are rooting?
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I root for two main reasons:
1. You can't do a really good backup in any other way than with Titanium backup, and I like to start semi-fresh every now and then when there's been too much bull tested and tried on the phone.
2, and this is the real kicker: For some idiotic reason a non-rooted Android phone can't do AirPlay in any way. I have a whole-house system that incorporates streaming over WiFi from my phone, and if I don't root, I can't use any of the streaming apps that support AirPlay (my favourite is AirAudio) to stream audio from whatever app I want to, since it can stream the actual phone audio. DLNA is totally useless because I have to use particular apps to stream with that, and they are not the apps I actually use. So basically Google has with a rather dumb choice forced me to root.

Mastiff said:
I root for two main reasons:
1. You can't do a really good backup in any other way than with Titanium backup, and I like to start semi-fresh every now and then when there's been too much bull tested and tried on the phone.
2, and this is the real kicker: For some idiotic reason a non-rooted Android phone can't do AirPlay in any way. I have a whole-house system that incorporates streaming over WiFi from my phone, and if I don't root, I can't use any of the streaming apps that support AirPlay (my favourite is AirAudio) to stream audio from whatever app I want to, since it can stream the actual phone audio. DLNA is totally useless because I have to use particular apps to stream with that, and they are not the apps I actually use. So basically Google has with a rather dumb choice forced me to root.
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The Xperia backup does the trick for me... It saves data so I have a complete backup.
The second makes good sense, I don't use apple so I don't know the problem but hope it will work out in the future mate ?
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Doubful. It's a proprietary Apple system so they won't support it in Android, and from what I've heard that's why they make it as difficult as possible to support it, so root is necessary. Anyway, I'm good with that, as long as I get root. It took me some days, but Sony's a new thing to me. Still love that ability to work with a wet screen. Samsung really has a problem there.

I only get the warning at 15%, this is where I set the auto stamina to notifiy me when stamina kicks in.

How weird. I have turned off that bull totally, don't need it. I'm never that far from a charger, in my boat, car, house or motorcycle. So no stamina mode at all, still it wines at 30 %.

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How weird. I have turned off that bull totally, don't need it. I'm never that far from a charger, in my boat, car, house or motorcycle. So no stamina mode at all, still it wines at 30 %.
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try setting auto stamina at 15%, it's the lowest you can set, and see if the 30% will stop.

Good point, I'll try. I seldom let the battery go so low, while 30 is not that uncommon. I'll try and see what happens later today, thanks!