This is just a general question, but I'm sure the responsiveness of my Diamond 2 is getting worse. It sometimes takes ages to response to any kind of screen press.
Powering off and back on does make it more responsive.
Wearing my PC support hat, I'd say is seems to be suffering from lack of memory and therefore is thrashing the hard disk.
Does this analogy apply to Windows Mobile devices?
I've checked I've not got any programs running and usually there is nothing. However, the touch-flo applications aren't listed. I assume this is because they are all part of the main desktop shell?
Another observation is that the battery sometimes gets very hot. This is usually an indicator that the battery is being drained very fast. Another guess, but if there is a "bad" task in there, I assume it could drain the battery in this way and use up CPU?
I've got encryption turned on for the SD card. Does this impose a big overhead as I've tried to configure most programs to use the card when possible.
I'm about to back it up and try a cold reset as a test.
Cheers, Rob.
"therefore is thrashing the hard disk"
no wm don't use virtual mem as flash is slow and have limited writes before it dies
"I've got encryption turned on for the SD card."
people should be very very very careful using encryption on sd cards only
if the data being remained hidden is much more important then the data itself
should one use it
have the device die on you and replaced with a new
or even changing the rom will result in the data on your sdcard
being lost forever
Encryption
Rudegar said:
"therefore is thrashing the hard disk"
people should be very very very careful using encryption on sd cards only
if the data being remained hidden is much more important then the data itself
should one use it
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I pick up my company email through it so there are some slightly sensitive documents on there.
I don't (and never would) ever keep the only copy of data on a phone!
Cheers, Rob.
I have the xperia for almost 10 months. I have the original UK rom. Some of my problems are:
1) Τhe phone is over heating, not only when i charge it, but during the day too. In addition to this, when i charge it after about 5-6 hours the battery is dead without using the phone at all!! Sometimes, when i take it in my hands and is hot(without having used it in the meanwhile) i have to put it in the FRIDGE to drop the temperature!
2) It stucks all the time! It seems like it has very bad response times, because when i use the keyboard(virtual & hardware) it stucks so that i cannot write not even an sms properly. This happens with all apps too.(i have to wait a lot before they start running)
3)I have installed all the apps in the storage card but still the storage memory decreases!! I deleted opera's history, cookies and cache, also tried the "clear temp" app, but the storage memory still goes down and i get the annoying message of insufficient memory, but i don't know what else to delete to free up memory.
4)When i pull off the headphones the icon it is still there, and if i have a call they cannot hear me, neather can i. It is really distrurbing.
5) the camera app takes way too long to open and usually the images that i take are foggy and bad quality.
So, PLEASE GUYS TELL ME WAHT TO DO!!! I JUST CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE!! i feel that the 500 euros i gave didn't worth it, something that makes me reaaly mad!
1) I think put X1 in the FRIDGE is a big mistake. (At least what I know) If your phone is getting hot then you just put it in fridge, it will make dew inside the motherboard. So your X1 won't operate well.
2) Hardware keyboard in X1 is malfacturing. Many X1 keyboard active users complained it. About virtual kb is usually caused by third party application. Maybe for software issue, you may hardreset it, and install less applications. SESC will repair the Hard Kb issue.
3)As I know, not all of application installed to Storage Card means they only use the Storage Card. Sometimes, they also need to install some part of the application dll or bla bla bla to internal memory to make them run. And of course, the leave footage memory.
4&5)Hmmm, it may relate to point 1) about putting your X1 in fridge
My advice, 1st Hardreset (Don't forget backup important information: using Active Sync or PIM Backup), then if the problem still continues (since you have X1 with original SPL and ROM, bring it to SESC, hope they'll fix it)
Correct me if I am wrong.
my stock nexus one becomes highly unstable after booting up. im running strock 2.2.1, and this issue started apearing recently (after 2.2.1 update). the phone has never had any problems in the past.
whenever i turn the phone on, if i touch it it becomes really laggy and freezes, requiring me to pull the battery. however, if i let it sit for 15-20 minutes and then play with it it works fine, until the next time i shut id down (which can be days). i have performed a factory reset without reinstalling all of my old applications, i have formatted my sd card, and i have checked all the applications that start on boot up, but none of them seam to be the issue (when there was nothing on the phone it still reacted this way)
any suggestions? should i contact htc? this is really annoying.
Before you do, you could try to root and check the logs for anything suspicious (logcat and kmesg). Also you could try to install custom ROM and see if the problem still exists.
If it doesn't help - you should contact HTC.
EErez said:
my stock nexus one becomes highly unstable after booting up. im running strock 2.2.1, and this issue started apearing recently (after 2.2.1 update). the phone has never had any problems in the past.
whenever i turn the phone on, if i touch it it becomes really laggy and freezes, requiring me to pull the battery. however, if i let it sit for 15-20 minutes and then play with it it works fine, until the next time i shut id down (which can be days). i have performed a factory reset without reinstalling all of my old applications, i have formatted my sd card, and i have checked all the applications that start on boot up, but none of them seam to be the issue (when there was nothing on the phone it still reacted this way)
any suggestions? should i contact htc? this is really annoying.
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Factory reset with formatted card? Has to be something wrong with the phone.
Go to recovery, wipe cache and dalvik cache, and try to boot phone again, often that helps.
tried wiping everything i can through recovery, yet my phone still freezes soon after start up. any chance htc will fix this? i dont want a refurb
Because when system has just booted up, it needs to check SD card and mounts all App2SD applications.
Try to boot your phone without SD and SIM card, see if it solves the issue.
tried removing sim and microsd and all th possible combinations.
it runs great without the microsd, so im guessing that was the issue. ill try another microsd to make sure its not a hardware/software bug related to sds in general but rather an issue with my specific microsd (which isnt the stock one).
thanks for the suggestion. i was very close to sending my phone in to htc (already had a ticket open and a fedex label)
that sounds good perhaps your SD card was corrupted. Connect it to your computer using a card reader, and do a disk check in Windows, see if it can fix any problem. Also try to degragment your SD card.
Hi all
Ever since upgrading to 2.3.3 I've been having random freezes that usually end up in needing a battery pull or pressing down on the power button until the phone reboots itself. This is with Darky's 10.1, although I don't think it's related to the "Darky parts" of the ROM itself, but something more to do with the OS.
Also, I've felt that the phone sometimes slows down. It doesn't feel like the original lag on 2.1, but rather feels like something's eating up CPU power. This will happen on ANY application, and even when moving through homescreens on TW Launcher or ADW Launcher.
Another thing of note is that it seems to be the UI or input process that hangs or dies or something. Because whatever's running keeps running I just can't make the phone respond to touch or any of the hard buttons. For example, today I was playing Age of Wind (sweet game, check it out) and after like 10 seconds of the game stuttering, the phone stopped responding, but my ship just kept going forward and the other ships were trying to keep up with me. Sounds and music kept going. And after 30 seconds of "inactivity", the screen went to sleep. As you can see everything's normal except there's no input.
So what I'd like is for ideas on how to fix or figure out what's wrong. I'm somewhat tech-savvy so I wouldn't be scared of using adb or some other debugging tool. So far I've not been able to figure out what's wrong because all the logs start over whenever I reboot the phone.
So, any ideas? Any additional information that would be useful?
Edit and update: I've changed the title because this has already happened on different custom ROM's, including Darky and Criskelo.
I have now tested for 5 days on Criskelo's ROM (based on 2.3.4) and it will happen also. So far what I've noticed both on Darky's and on Criskelo's ROMs:
- The phone will work perfectly for about 4-5 days
- On the 4th day it will start stuttering and lagging. That's when I know it's very close to locking up.
- On the 4th day it will maybe lock up once in a day
- After the 4th day it will start locking up up to three times a day
- The lock-up is at the UI level. Applications will keep running, it will ring if you call it, notification sounds are still alive, the screen will turn off normally after 30 seconds or whatever timeout you set up. But input is totally dead.
- When it locks up, both soft-buttons will light up and stay lit.
Possible causes:
- Something related to USB storage or SD card storage. Someone mentioned that it might be caused by the "fast media scanner". It's possible, because on one of my many tests, instead of reinstalling an OS, I formatted the minisd, the internal sd and phone storage and the phone was fine for 4-5 days and then it started doing screwy stuff again. This reinforces the theory that it's something to do with storage. My guess is the OS itself starts degrading the filesystem or handles or something. And my suspicion is that it's something in the /system/dbdata or /cache partitions, not the sdcard or external sd cards. Impossible to know because I have no idea how to debug using adb and nobody has given any ideas on this.
- I'm starting to suspect the BLN support in the kernel. I have BLN turned off, but I'm not so sure.
Hi,
Sorry don't have any answers, but am having the exact same problems on Darky's 10.1. Except I have a TouchWiz4 Port + Galaxy S II Icons.
Hopefully someone will know of this issue! Its starting to annoy me!!
Cheers,
Sunny
Tell me something, when you installed Darky, did you restore your apps via Titanium Backup? Did you select "Restore apps + data" or just apps?
I'm in the process of reinstalling Darky's from scratch, see if that works. If not I might go back to 9.5 or try Criskelo's ROM.
Thanks
Hi,
Nope I didn't backup or restore any apps. My data is all on my SD card and I just reinstall apps.. I came from DebusROM G1.
Thanks,
Sunny
Maybe a factory reset (do it in recovery) would help?
I actually did a factory reset before installing.
@sundazetoo: Do you have Voodoo lagfix enabled?
Last night, while in the process of reinstalling Darky's ROM, I disabled the lagfix (converting to RSF) and after almost an hour i decided to pull the battery. Then when I rebooted again, it went through the conversion process, finished in 2 minutes (wut!) and an error displayed (it couldn't mount some partition, one that I know is not critical).
So I'm suspecting a filesystem problem.
I already installed and DO NOT have Voodoo's lagfix enabled. I also did a complete wipe and restored my apps without data. So far it seems fine but it's only been a few hours.
@Lunchbox115: I did the factory reset when I installed too.
@ferparedes: Yep voodoo is enabled. I am now running on the stock launcher that came with Darky's 10.1 and it seems to be running a lot smoother. I was running a TW4 port so that may have been my problem!
I will monitor it and let you know how it goes.
Have you tried clearing the data / cache for the launchers you are using? That seems to fix alot of FC issues for apps for me.. I guess no harm in trying anyways?
2 days in after reinstalling.
Voodoo EXT4 lagfix NOT enabled. Phone is pretty snappy and I've haven't had any more freezes. I think it was either a bad EXT4 conversion or the lagfix itself was causing it. Anyways, since the phone is pretty fast I'm leaving it with RFS lagfix only.
One thing of note, though. I'm running stock GB launcher atm, because ADW was giving some problems.
Yesterday ADW Launcher *died* and although the phone was working and responsive, the launcher never came back. The result was that when I pressed the home button nothing happened but a blank screen. The power button worked, though, so I was able to do a clean reboot and switch to Launcher.
Interesting, I dont seem to have the same issues with the voodoo lag fix.
Also I am now using ADW Launcher EX and have not had any issues. I think my problem was the TW4 port.
Same again
I get these issues too. I seem to get them RFS and ext4 (I think - mostly its been ext4 though). Often get a delay on the keyboard. Its driving me a bit nuts but I am reluctant to go back to Froyo just for this (I hate having to restore all my user names and passwords).
Silly thing is I cannot recall if I got in when I tried Gingerreal (on Darky 10.1 now).
Would love to see thoughts and theories too..
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UPDATE
After almost 2 days of totally flawless operation, I reinserted my 16 GB Micro SD card with all of my stuff in there. Among many things:
- Audible audiobooks, along with bookmark and "furthest listened" data
- Music, playlists. All created by TuneSync (which I use to wireless sync music and playlists from my PC's iTunes)
- Dropbox download folder
- Photos and videos taken with the phone
- Some other files not associated with any app
2 hours after doing this, blam, the phone locked up again requiring a reboot. So I removed the Micro SD and when I got home I backed up my photos and videos on the PC, reinserted it in the phone and formated the card. This was last night.
So far the phone's working fine.
My current theory:
The Micro SD card I originally bought for the phone was an 8gig. When I got the 16 gig one, I just copied everything from the 8gig onto a folder on the PC, then copied everything over to the 16 one. This might've broken something.
After going to Gingerbread, it's possible that the way some applications look for their data (for example, Audible) changed but when encountering the same data (that was copied over from a windows folder on the PC) it might've generated errors which in turn put the interface into a deadlock.
My strongest suspect is Audible. After installing Darky 10.1, the app just chugged away remembering all my farthest listened to data, all my audiobooks were visible, etc. After reinstalling (and removing the Micro SD) I had to redownload some, but it still remembered where I was and didn't have to reactivate the device. Now, after formatting the Micro SD, I've had to redownload everything, it didn't remember where I was on each audiobook and I also had to reactivate the device.
If the phone doesn't lock up during the next 4-5 days then I'll conclude that errors on accessing the Micro SD by some app was the cause.
sundazetoo said:
Interesting, I dont seem to have the same issues with the voodoo lag fix.
Also I am now using ADW Launcher EX and have not had any issues. I think my problem was the TW4 port.
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Yeah I actually don't think ADW launcher is causing this particular problem. But in a different problem altogether, it did die and in this case required me to do a reboot, albeit a clean one. But if it gave me this one single problem than I'm inclined to stop using it. I don't want the phone disabled for the 3-5 minutes it takes to boot up if I need it in an emergency (it's a phone first and foremost, after all)
tw4 is an EVIL for SGSi9000 imho... because almost everyone have problems with it !!! so just use another Launchers... LauncherPro, Launcher EX (my favourite) but not TW4 )))
I tried to fix with a reinstall of stock jvp and then went to F1 v8 jvp rkm but I also formated ext_sd card as suggested here (and deleted audible application which I was not using.
So far so good but it's only been an hour...
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Definitely something related to sd card. Everything is screwy now but less so with the sd card out.
Anyone find any solutions?
I was getting double boot screens and freezes on the dialer. Realized it was the sd when my backup would not load.
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Had this happen to me today,
I had the phone boot up and it would get to the lockscreen, then media scan, then it would lock up, only a battery pull would turn it off.
Tried booting without the External SD and it didnt occur, hmmm
Put the microSD card in the card reader on the PC, and performed a scan for errors/fix bad sectors, it didnt find anything but i put it back in and it goes fine now, im sure its the external card.
related info
Found this thread that seems related;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367912&page=3
Trying the chkdisk utility now...
It did it again with the micro sd card out. So today I reformated the internal SD storage (usb storage) and will see how it goes. If this last attempt fails I will either go back to froyo or try another ROM.
But I do think it has something to do with one of the SD card storage.
gfacer said:
Found this thread that seems related;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367912&page=3
Trying the chkdisk utility now...
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Should be fine
More things to try
Looked at my rom page (F1 JVP) and noticed that V8, which I have now, had the faster media scanner as does Darky's 10.1-which is not getting updates often now it seems. Well the faster media scanner only lasted 2 days until V9 of the F1 rom when the delevoper removed it. My guess it that it was causing issues.
Leads me to wonder if that might be causing the corruption in the first place or at least a contributing factor.
Also read some threads at google about similar issues across a whole wave of devices and one person there mentioned H2testw utility to test the sectors of your SD card. It sounds like cheap ebay sd card and larger SD cards my have more issues (mine is a 32gb). It is best to format and then test with h2testw but I decided to run just on the empty parts of the card and decide from there.
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