[Q] Milestone: limited color display abilities? - Motorola Droid and Milestone General

Lately I've noticed that my Milestone has some problems with displaying colors.
I have attached the screenshot of my home, where you can see terrible transitions between similar hues.
lso, there is wallpaper file attached, which seems to be okay to me.
Is it common with those screens or it's just my Milestone?

my milestone does the same :/ could it be that it does not have 16 million colors?

24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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fivefour said:
24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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i find it weird that no reviews mentions this or even the specifications sheet, :/ the desire has an 24 bit display?

That's what I thought, pretty much.
Still, it being not mentioned is strange, as it seems to be fairly serious issue. Unless it's possible to convert images with no quality loss visible on the screen.

The proper term is dither, in cyanogen you can enable surface dithering in cyanogen mod settings > performance which should improve image quality at the cost of performance. Not sure about other roms.
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im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?

The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.

So what gallery could I use to put wallpapers on?
Flikie does pretty much the same, as it uses Froyo gallery.

Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.

applebook said:
The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.
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if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often

This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp

jackeh070 said:
Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.
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i searched for it and it says it only works in 1.x not in 2.x but it works... weird

Chad_Petree said:
if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often
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Yeah, I agree. Apparently, Samsung's Galaxy S Gallery is a bit better. Not truly 24-bit, but the Galaxy S adds improved dithering. The Galaxy S, with all of the hype about SAMOLED, is not even a real 24-bit display You Milestone/Droid/Droid 2 folks have the best Android screen, IMO.

Chad_Petree said:
This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
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True.
Google is not eager to tell you the answer if you don't exactly know what you are looking for. And for non-technical people it may be hard to guess.

Chad_Petree said:
im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?
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i dont know what the droid screen was like but i got a milestone 2(droid 2) yesterday and the screen looks awful on it, nothing but dull colours, i just made a post about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10401973#post10401973

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[Q] Wallpapers for the Droid Bionic

Anyone have a good source yet for wallpapers to fit our screens?
Thanks
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I've been making my own. 960x854 seems to be correct resolution to not have to crop the image when you set it inside the phone.
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I've been making my own. 960x854 seems to be correct resolution to not have to crop the image when you set it inside the phone.
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Right on for the correct resolution size. I will make some wallpapers for the XOOM and Bionic and share them with you guys.
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That's not right, the correct resolution is 1080x960. Resolution for Android wallpapers as a rule of thumb is if you have HxW, the size for the wallpaper is 2*WxH
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I've been making my own. 960x854 seems to be correct resolution to not have to crop the image when you set it inside the phone.
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What program do you use to edit the resolution to 960x854???
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That's not right, the correct resolution is 1080x960. Resolution for Android wallpapers as a rule of thumb is if you have HxW, the size for the wallpaper is 2*WxH
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I second this. 1080x960 is definitely correct.
960x854 seems to work but if you scale it up to a height of 960 (correct background height) you will see that 854 scales to 1079. 1 px off.
EDIT: Photoshop is the best program to resize, but I believe MS Office Picture Manager can do it too...if you are on Windows
I use Zedge, works fine for me
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I've been making my own. 960x854 seems to be correct resolution to not have to crop the image when you set it inside the phone.
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Thanks for the right dimensions! Time to make some wallpapers not!
Sensei mods wallpaper resolution fits perfect
Wallpaper Guidelines?
Is there a certain guideline for creating wallpapers for the bionic? I've created wallpapers in the past for different devices and they look great, but they look like crap on my bionic. I've done some searching and it seems that a lot of people are noticing that too. Guessing its just a matter of the type of display the bionic has. Some images look great on the bionic, while some look terrible. So I'm wondering if there is some sort of specifics for how you create and save the image files to ensure they look great on the bionic's screen? Is it the image's pixel per inch? Is it the color profile? Is it the image mode as in RGB or CMYK? Or the image mode as in 8-bit, 16-bit or 32-bit? I'm trying to find the magic combo here.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Is there a certain guideline for creating wallpapers for the bionic? I've created wallpapers in the past for different devices and they look great, but they look like crap on my bionic. I've done some searching and it seems that a lot of people are noticing that too. Guessing its just a matter of the type of display the bionic has. Some images look great on the bionic, while some look terrible. So I'm wondering if there is some sort of specifics for how you create and save the image files to ensure they look great on the bionic's screen? Is it the image's pixel per inch? Is it the color profile? Is it the image mode as in RGB or CMYK? Or the image mode as in 8-bit, 16-bit or 32-bit? I'm trying to find the magic combo here.
Any help would be appreciated.
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I dont think any wallpaper will ever look "great" on the bionics screen, especially compared to other phones. The colors just look too far off to me.
Yeah, but still...would like to know the how and why. I can find and load some images that I find as wallpaper and they look great. Others look really bad...to the point where it is all pixelated and the color is off.
There has to be some kind of standards we can follow.
1080 x 960 is the best size, especially if you want your wallpaper to scroll with your desktop. 24 or 32 bit color depth also works well. Using smaller images and/or lower color depth can cause banding and dithering in wall paper images. I think that's part of the reason a lot of people complained about the Bionics display - Google pulled in wall paper from their previous phones back-up and those images got scaled to fit the QHD screen on the Bionic. Happed to me anyway. I had some favorite wall papers on my Droid 2 that were 960 x 854. When my Bionic pulled down my Google data it tried to scale those images and some of them looked like crap-easpecially if they had gradient areas. After re-sizing them to 1080 x 960on my PC and replacing the 960 x 854 versions they looked much better.
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1080 x 960 is the best size, especially if you want your wallpaper to scroll with your desktop. 24 or 32 bit color depth also works well. Using smaller images and/or lower color depth can cause banding and dithering in wall paper images. I think that's part of the reason a lot of people complained about the Bionics display - Google pulled in wall paper from their previous phones back-up and those images got scaled to fit the QHD screen on the Bionic. Happed to me anyway. I had some favorite wall papers on my Droid 2 that were 960 x 854. When my Bionic pulled down my Google data it tried to scale those images and some of them looked like crap-easpecially if they had gradient areas. After re-sizing them to 1080 x 960on my PC and replacing the 960 x 854 versions they looked much better.
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I've tried that and it doesn't work 99% of the time. Most of the time they still look like crap. In the past, if I've ever had a banding issue, all I had to do was add a little noise to the image to help break it up a bit. Seems like no matter what I try the images will look great on a computer screen or on other devices, but not on my Bionic. Still can't figure out why some images I find look good while others don't...

So has anyone got a Note without the black crush / clipping problem?

Seriously can't work this one out, do I get my screen changed or not?
Should I wait to see if ICS makes it any better?
This phone is perfect for me except this issue with the blacks / greys. Even when i zoom in on dark parts of pictures taken with the phones camera it turns into a pixelated mess, so this is defiantly not a low quality source issue, its hardware or software related, but which?
Advice please guys. Many thanks!
I know! Right?
The screen Is freaking awesome, simply the best on any smartphone, but why those blacks haven't been fixed yet???
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I really am at a loss to what you guys are complaining about. I'm either not that fussy, or deluded to the fact that what I think I am seeing as 'bad' I pass off as something else.
From what I've read around the forums, what should be a shaded series of greys/blacks in an area are appearing as blocks of black/darkgrey instead of a gradual change.
I've always thought this was down to how videos/images where compressed or decompressed and displayed - which would almost certainly be software and not hardware?
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I really am at a loss to what you guys are complaining about. I'm either not that fussy, or deluded to the fact that what I think I am seeing as 'bad' I pass off as something else.
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Same here. My blacks look fine most of the time. When I do get grey blockiness I'm pretty sure it's due to poor compression in the video file, because other videos, large black areas look fine.
Can anyone give a link to a video available online in which this problem occurs (and the point in the video we should be looking at).
Maybe then we can get some objective testing with everyone using the same source file.
Maybe even have people doing screenshots to compare screens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366014&page=4
I'm rarely using my phone in dark enough conditions to notice.
ICS should improve gradients, but won't fix the black crush if it is indeed a problem with the screen hardware.
I am probably going to regret this, as my Note was perfect except for this black crush issue, but I sent mine back to be replaced. And the issue was not just on videos for me so poor quality encodes are not the problem, I was getting it even with pictures taken with the phones camera. Said pictures taken with the Note displayed fine on my pc and my wifes Galaxy s 2, so it is deffo a problem with the device.
Please lets not turn this into another "who cares" or "its not that noticeable" debate like the other threads, all I am aiming at with this thread from now is to find out if there are any Notes in existence that do not have this issue!
Thanks.
I refuse to look for a problem that is not there.....
There is no phone or portable device in existence that is color accurate, either tonally or temperature or gamma correct out of the box, and to expect such is to be, well, expecting quite a bit too much.
Why do i make that statement?.. Well, given that a monitor or TV at ANY price are not accurately calibrated.
To get an accurately calibrated monitor requires a display worth using, then a color tone/temperature/gamma calibration system (which is ~$200 & up) and software that can use the resulting calibration profiles...
The SGN is a phone... tbh there is no "fault" or "problem" here, other than unrealistic customer expectations...
Would a settings app that could set globally set color temp & gamma be helpful? sure.. there is enough color temp variation in the spread of production tolerances in phone to make this useful... stop a ll the pink white /blue white issues
But will it make the SGN a color accurate display?.. no.
So... lets wave a magic wand and make it so... whats the point? the camera does not justify it, the movies you watch are overly compressed and not color accurate (never mind compression artifacts of banding, blocking and shading), youtube videos have no quality controls.. online TV, website videos and stills have major color saturation issues.. so what content will you access that is going to be useable on a color accurate display?..
well, 4 beers down and 2c more spent..
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I refuse to look for a problem that is not there.....
There is no phone or portable device in existence that is color accurate, either tonally or temperature or gamma correct out of the box, and to expect such is to be, well, expecting quite a bit too much.
Why do i make that statement?.. Well, given that a monitor or TV at ANY price are not accurately calibrated.
To get an accurately calibrated monitor requires a display worth using, then a color tone/temperature/gamma calibration system (which is ~$200 & up) and software that can use the resulting calibration profiles...
The SGN is a phone... tbh there is no "fault" or "problem" here, other than unrealistic customer expectations...
Would a settings app that could set globally set color temp & gamma be helpful? sure.. there is enough color temp variation in the spread of production tolerances in phone to make this useful... stop a ll the pink white /blue white issues
But will it make the SGN a color accurate display?.. no.
So... lets wave a magic wand and make it so... whats the point? the camera does not justify it, the movies you watch are overly compressed and not color accurate (never mind compression artifacts of banding, blocking and shading), youtube videos have no quality controls.. online TV, website videos and stills have major color saturation issues.. so what content will you access that is going to be useable on a color accurate display?..
well, 4 beers down and 2c more spent..
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Dude, my pc plays / displays these movies and images fine with no artifacts, as does my tv, as does my partners Galaxy s 2, as does my Nexus s, so how can you say that there is no problem?
Anyway, I just had a look at my cousins Galaxy Note and that one is playing these movies fine, and is displaying the pictures taken with my Note without the chess board effect, so if you are happy to pay over £400 for a defective device thats up to you, but many of us expect to get what we paid for.
I just found this on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg many people find this a problem.
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I just found this on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg many people find this a problem.
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I agree with you it is a problem and even supercurio has been on it and he is a developer so someting isnt right so lets hope it gets fixed cause many people suffer with it
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I just found this on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg many people find this a problem.
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The problem is clear enough to see there, but it's not one I've ever noticed on my Note. I just tried playing this YouTube clip on my Note....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syxd2n8S4AE
and could see nothing wrong with the video performance in a darkened (curtains drawn during daytime) room. I wonder how well this clip plays for other people on the Note.
I made a video of the Note playing this clip and I'm uploading it at the moment. It will take a while (81 minutes remaining at the moment) as I shot in 1080p. I'll post a link when it's ready.
FWIW I'm on the latest official ROM and my phone was sourced from Germany in early November. From my perspective there is no problem, which might make it quite hard for Samsung to fix.
My Note is running on ICS (CM9) and the color rendering is substantially improved over stock GB. Gradients are smoother and blacks are rendered cleaner.
My video is up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl0SKxnqa2I
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My video is up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl0SKxnqa2I
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I've played the same clip on my Note and it looks exactly like yours, no banding/crushing/clipping whatsoever.
I've tried a lot of Youtube clips and movie trailers but in only one of them I could see obvious artefacts during a fade out. I played the same clip on my pc and saw the same thing happen there so that's probably just lousy encoding.
Thanks for putting that video up, I hope my replacement looks like yours, its due tomorrow.
I got me new note, this one is set to uk language instead of german like the one I returned. It has the exact same issue, drops from 4 grey to 3 complete black and i am still getting the clipping, bloody Samsung, this was meant to be an upgrade from my nexus s, but most stuff looks better on that! Not gonna excahnge again, I will wait for ICS and see if Samsung actually acknowledge the issue.
@Mystic38. Whilst I agree with you that most consumer devices don't come calibrated to industry standards and that most consumer devices lack the essential settings found on the most basic of professional displays, I fail to see how any colour, contrast, hue, gamma or brightness calibration would affect the overall appearance, unless of course you are cranking the settings beyond anything useful and crushing the dynamics intentionally.
It's difficult to introduce visual banding or blocking in high BIT rate video or lightly compressed images by tweaking settings and calibration by a couple of percent alone, as there are near on 17 million colours. This leaves thousands of grey levels to play with and the human eye shouldn't notice banding or blocking with that many greys.
This presumably points to an issue with the way that video is presented to the screen driver or how the screen driver drives the screen. There's probably an issue with crushing where the hardware converts the digital signal to electronic levels of each AMOLED element. I have seen this problem on other devices, not just phones and most of the time it was rectified after a software upgrade.
Another thing to remember is that companies like Samsung are fully aware and accommodating of the fact that a lot of people now use these types of phones as monitors for photography and video production as I do. I use DSLR Controller and have no problem with crushing. Using the phone as a monitor has been extremely helpful and negated the expense of something which would have cost over 10 times the price.
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I just got round to trying the ,png gamma test file on my Note. It fails the test. Everything below 4 is black and as you go through the numbers from 4 and above there are bands grouping four levels into one tone. Worse still, the tones alternate from greenish to purple instead of being shades of grey. Interestingly if I perform a screen capture the capture is a true reflection of what I see, which implies to me that the Note is actually sending bad values to the screen rather than a hardware problem, because surely the screen capture only cares about the data, not the physical appearance produced.
Looking at the same file on my laptop everything is presented correctly, so obviously the file is not the problem.
Yet despite failing this test I have never noticed a problem with the Note to cause me concern in normal every day use.
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I just got round to trying the ,png gamma test file on my Note. It fails the test. Everything below 4 is black and as you go through the numbers from 4 and above there are bands grouping four levels into one tone. Worse still, the tones alternate from greenish to purple instead of being shades of grey. Interestingly if I perform a screen capture the capture is a true reflection of what I see, which implies to me that the Note is actually sending bad values to the screen rather than a hardware problem, because surely the screen capture only cares about the data, not the physical appearance produced.
Looking at the same file on my laptop everything is presented correctly, so obviously the file is not the problem.
Yet despite failing this test I have never noticed a problem with the Note to cause me concern in normal every day use.
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Have you viewed it in the gallery or in a browser? With my Note everything below 4 is crushed in the stock ICS browser but I can see everything in the gallery.
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Have you viewed it in the gallery or in a browser? With my Note everything below 4 is crushed in the stock ICS browser but I can see everything in the gallery.
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I think the gallery uses a different color gradient and temperature than the stock ICS browser, much as if you view a rich encoded black contrast video on the stock video player and on a custom app video player like MX player... you get varying results...
I think this issue is a mix of both a hardware and software one, and though the Official ICS upgrade "might" alleviate this problem, I surely believe also that since this is a combination of a hardware problem, the clippings are still there but perhaps not quite noticeable anymore....

[Q] Screen Resolution

when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
Robbilie said:
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
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There are actually very few 4.3"phones with 720p displays. So for this size screen it's actually a fairly typical resolution.
Change it by getting a different phone.
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i guess this is the most senseless answer but ok
Senseless, but also pointless
Robbilie said:
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
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Sincerely, having owned the galaxy nexus and galaxy s3 (much too large for my use), I do not see big differences in display quality ... maybe it's my eyes ... :laugh:
It really has the ideal size this device, as the Lumia 800, but with a 4.3 "screen ... :good:
Remember, this is a mid-range device as well. Mid range devices at this price point rarely have higher res screens. If ever.
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Remember, this is a mid-range device as well
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only in price!
I dont have updates ybout this but if it is possible to connect to a tv via hdmi, how would this resolution appear? xD
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i guess this is the most senseless answer but ok
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How is my answer senseless? Or do you not speak English? I directly answered your question.
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I dont have updates ybout this but if it is possible to connect to a tv via hdmi, how would this resolution appear? xD
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Your logic is strange. If its running through HDMI why would the phones screen matter?
It would be running at the TVs resolution.
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doesnt it still show to phones screen?
so it cant have annother ratio and such than the device has itself right?
never had a phone which was capable of hdmi output so i am just guessing...
Because of Google's takeover, Motorola was made to strip out all of its own software - and I'm told this is also the reason there's no HDMI/MHL socket. We're quite lucky that there's a memory card slot, although you can't copy apps (and app data) on to a memory card - so for some people that have loads of apps or use Spotify with offline music, it will be like the memory card doesn't exist.
I am not that upset, as I didn't really care for any of the Motorola apps/bloatware and quite like the fact that, bar the Motorola launcher, it's virtually like having a Motorola Nexus.
I actually don't connect my phones to a TV that often anyway. I've got tablets that can do that if I want (and I rarely do, despite always thinking I might). For watching photos and video on my (Smart) TV I use Wi-Fi, which is more convenient - and works just fine with the Razr i.
As for the screen resolution; having come from a Sony Xperia S with a 4.3-inch HD display (342PPI?), I was expecting to be unable to live with the screen on the Razr i - but that hasn't happened either. I am not sure what the PPI is now, but it's still high enough that I can't really make out the pixels - and even the PenTile matrix isn't an issue unless I get really close up. One exception is when you have thin(ish) text in colours like red, which can be a bit hard to read.
Anyway, 960x540 isn't a terrible resolution at all. 1280x720 would be nice, but I've come to learn that it isn't essential and I really am not sure why the industry is going to be rushing to do 1920x1080 next year on screens of only 5-inches or so. That will be a stupid pixels-per-inch density and you're now going beyond what the eye can make out anyway. First megapixels, then MHz and cores, and now PPI/DPI. Madness!
Razr i is 256DPI. It's not bad at all.
Not so far a GS3 which as 305DPI.. but cost lot much money
And qHD as the avantage to be Quarter the size of HD resolution, It fits great for diplaying HD content.
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doesnt it still show to phones screen?
so it cant have annother ratio and such than the device has itself right?
never had a phone which was capable of hdmi output so i am just guessing...
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Well the galaxy s3 when connected switches to 1080p resolution. To fit the t.v.
Doesn't matter anyway since it has no HDMI.
And when Google took over Motorola they made someone else CEO but its still independent of Google a separate company.
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Instagram photos look like crap on here

I get that instagram is all about filters but I'm talking about photo resolution on the uploads. The photos shared from my One are far more pixelated and jaggy (overall crappy .jpgs themselves instead of filter related) than photos from my iPhone 4s were. Is there any reason for this drop in quality of pictures? What's the point of having this awesome camera if all the photos I share to both instagram and facebook look so crappy when shared?
These are 612x612 pictures there shouldn't even need to be any compression done on them to warrant the loss in quality.
Facebook is similar, I can readily zoom on my friends' iOS uploads from my phone but my uploads are letterboxed on my screen and I can't zoom in on them. It's frustrating when one of the reasons I switched to this phone was for photo quality.
I know it's not the phone's fault because they look great on here, so what's the deal with these apps and does anybody know how to fix?
Mine look fine
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Mine look fine
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They look okay but there's a noticeable drop in quality from the same scene (even the same photo if I put the iOS photo on my android phone). Either Instagram, Facebook, or the Android upload system is scaling the pics down more than is done with iOS photos.
It's not deal breaking but when part of the reason you switch phones is the improved camera tech on the new one, it's a little grating that your 2 year old phone's photos look clearer than your new one's photos on social media sites.
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They look okay but there's a noticeable drop in quality from the same scene (even the same photo if I put the iOS photo on my android phone). Either Instagram, Facebook, or the Android upload system is scaling the pics down more than is done with iOS photos.
It's not deal breaking but when part of the reason you switch phones is the improved camera tech on the new one, it's a little grating that your 2 year old phone's photos look clearer than your new one's photos on social media sites.
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What's happening is that a 612 x 612 resolution photograph is being scaled up to a screen that is 1080 pixels across and more than an inch larger. The iPhone 4S only had 640 pixels across so its no comparison. The much higher resolution and the vastly larger screen is why the pictures look pixelated on the HTC One. Instagram should really consider increasing the image size to 1024 x 1024 seeing as how mobile displays have come a long way since the Retina displays of 2010.
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What's happening is that a 612 x 612 resolution photograph is being scaled up to a screen that is 1080 pixels across and more than an inch larger. The iPhone 4S only had 640 pixels across so its no comparison. The much higher resolution and the vastly larger screen is why the pictures look pixelated on the HTC One. Instagram should really consider increasing the image size to 1024 x 1024 seeing as how mobile displays have come a long way since the Retina displays of 2010.
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I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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I did notice that on the last picture I posted. The letters seemed jagged. Of course, we probably can't expect a fix for a while because all the major app developers cater to the iPhone users first. Instagram was iPhone only for a long time.
I think the 16:9 sensor may have something to do with it, as opposed to the 4:3 on most other phones
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retnuh730 said:
I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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Ahh I gotcha. If anything it sounds like its a setting with the Instagram app for Android. If you can, maybe you can try it on another Android phone and see if the issues persist. If they do it's due to the app, if not then unfortunately it would be the phone acting wonky.
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Ahh I gotcha. If anything it sounds like its a setting with the Instagram app for Android. If you can, maybe you can try it on another Android phone and see if the issues persist. If they do it's due to the app, if not then unfortunately it would be the phone acting wonky.
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I think it may be phone specific. The pictures from my EVO LTE never looked like that. I will post the same picture from both phones sometime and compare to see if there is noticeable difference.
I'm having this problem on my gs4 never had this problem on my iPhone 5 any ideas for a work around.
ITS ME DAVID said:
I'm having this problem on my gs4 never had this problem on my iPhone 5 any ideas for a work around.
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I went to the settings->advanced features and unchecked the two options there and my pictures seem to look better. I'm glad you've noticed this as well because I feel like people who've only used android don't realize how much nicer pics from the iPhone looked.
Yeah, I just noticed this as well. The pics actually look worse than those from my old Galaxy SII, which had a terrible camera. What the hell, instagram?
I've noticed this as well...the pictures take a big hit in IQ when uploaded to Instagram. The copies saved to the phone look fine, but they do look pretty bad on Instagram. Even the preview thumbnails took a hit.
My friend has a SGS4 and his pictures come out SUPER jagged....mine do not suffer from that problem but do look watered down.
Pictures look much, much, MUCH better on the iPhone 5.
anybody looked at the compression rate?
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anybody looked at the compression rate?
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How do you check that?
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How do you check that?
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its in the app...u know like how they uncompress the mms pic size...ive seen this happen in a bunch of other apps also
pics look terrible
It seems that the apps is over compressing and applying sharpening to them. I have the HTC One international version.
The last couple of days I thought I was going crazy when seeing the crappy quality of the uploaded photos.
I will upload a couple of pics later to see if disabling High quality processing in the Advanced options fixes this.
It most probably something related with new phones, as some Galaxy S4 users are reporting the same problem with their phones.
Someone posted this on reddit... there's a clear difference here for anybody who was wondering or didn't notice it before.
http://i.imgur.com/3l1AnoQ.jpg
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Someone posted this on reddit... there's a clear difference here for anybody who was wondering or didn't notice it before.
http://i.imgur.com/3l1AnoQ.jpg
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I've also noticed this. You are not going crazy.

Blurry Vision? (QHD Display)

EDIT: Is it just me or is this normal for QHD or display of this size to exhibit scrolling blur. Whilst browsing using chrome or XDA app anytime I scroll I find that nothing is crisp it seems to be blurry until the scrolling comes to a stop. With this type of quality display I expected better, or am I just being too picky? Anyone else notice this or have the same issue.
The display is QHD (2k) nor UHD (4k). Also there is no scrolling blur for me when I use chrome or XDA. Did you change anything in the phone?
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The display is QHD (2k) nor UHD (4k). Also there is no scrolling blur for me when I use chrome or XDA. Did you change anything in the phone?
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My bad, lol... I haven't changed a thing. Adaptive brightness set at default ambient display switched on. No other changes, not rooted ATM, just stock??
I just got one with project Fi and coming from an HTC M8 I see the scroll blur. Makes me wonder about OLED TVs.
I've never seen this issue. Are you sure it is a display artifact and not some kind of rendering / performance improvement for scrolling in stock?
I'm using a custom rom.
What you could do is try and record your screen using an app like this...https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mistygames.screenrecord. If the issue doesnt appear on the video but does appear to your eyes, then it is the screen. If it is on the video, it is your software.
Like I said, never seen it myself, though that doesnt mean its not there,
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I just got one with project Fi and coming from an HTC M8 I see the scroll blur. Makes me wonder about OLED TVs.
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All TV technologies, when new are inferior to previous technologies that they replaced. The previous technology has always had time to develop. For instance, LCD TVs are pretty good now, but my 2006 and also 2009 LCD TV's have terrible motion "jerk". I still use that 2009 TV.
OLED have only been out what? 2 years on TVs? Yeah I wouldn't necessarily buy a 2 year old model.
If this issue is a screen issue, it's worth noting that the screen on the N6 is old OLED technology. It is not up to date, like the Samsung Note 4.

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