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hi, new member here.
bought my tilt on 10/4/07. has been flawless since that time.
used the nav quite a bit during a road trip, used a cig lighter usb charger.
got home and my battery was at roughly 40%.
put it on the charger at night went to sleep. in morning disconnected it at 8 am. shortly after i arrived at work i got the critical battery low chime. checked and it had like 7% battery life.
figured i didnt plug it in right, or it got knocked loose some how and didnt get charged.
put it in flight mode to minimize battery usage. left work at 2 30 pm (4% battery life) and put it on the car charger. got home and put it on the HTC supplied wall charger. light turned amber, so i assumed it was charging.
checked an hour later and turned phone on, it said 0%, and immediately died. left it on the charger for a few hours and the light was still amber, turned it back on and again 0% and phone immediately died and did a soft reset on its own. i turned the phone off and left it on the ac charger, took out the sim card and put it in an old blackberry to use while the battery was charging.
its been on the ac wall charger for the last several hours, i checked and the phone is totally dead, cannot turn it on, and the LED at the top is now RED.
what is the problem here? why wont this thing charge?
thanks in advance, i have alot of critical info on this device and any help would be greatly appreciated.
i cannot hard reset because i cannot turn the flippign thing on....
Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
I'd try a different charger first. If that makes no difference then a different battery. If that still does not make any difference then time to exchange it.
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Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
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connected to either the computer or the wall charger, the LED thats normally amber when charging, and green when charged, remains red.
I had something very similar happen to my wizard.
And as weird as it sounds, the only fix was to charge the battery in a friends wizard on his charger. I'd check the battery if possible.
Could be the battery. Know any place or anyone that will let you try a charged battery? If not, you might have to go in to an AT&T store.
i think i got it working. did some reading/browsing...
took a usb wire and cut the mini usb head off. dissected it and found the the red and black charging wires. took out the battery and held the leads to teh battery while the other end was plugged into a USB/AC adapter wall charger from a old blackberry. after manually charging the battery for several minutes, i put the battery back in the phone and the phone started up. now it seems to be charging off the wall charger and the led is now amber from red.
thanks for all your help/suggestions.
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
tiltyoself said:
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
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Repeat this proceedure but this time do not turn the phone on, just plug it in to the wall charger once you have zapped the battery again.
Turning your phone on probably just caused the already recovering battery to die whiles it is trying to take on a charge.
It is mentioned quite a lot on the boards that Li-Ion Batteries do not like being over disscharged and there is usually a little protection circuit in the battery to provent complete disscharging although this circuit may be on board the phone. Completely disscharging a Li-Ion cell will kill it stone dead and it will need replacing.
When you took the battery out and so called jump started it with your flying leads, this possibly reset the little protection circuit in the battery so it can now take on a charge. I feel that once you turned on the phone, this was to much for the already depleted cell to take and possibly re-tripped its inbuilt circuit.
If you do manage to recover you cell, in future it is good practice not to let the battery go below about 25%. Li-ion cells are generally happy being top off regularly.
I hope this helps buddy
Do let us know!
Cheers
C.
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
That Sucks! I hope they'll give you a new battery.
tiltyoself said:
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
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I had exactly the same problem with my battery. It came on though after a day. Although the battery life after this happened went down to 10hrs max on standby. I sent the phone back and got a new one and now all is fine.
This is a problem that affects almost all makes of phone. There are three (main) causes of the problem:
1.
The battery charge drops too low to allow the charging circuit to recognise a battery is even in place (red no charge light stays lit)
possible solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...22&postcount=6
(in the end very similar in the end to the USB wire used in post above)
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A faulty battery (but if you can charge it using a cut usb cable or using a couple of AA batteries this may not be a faulty battery.
3.
A faulty charger OR a charger not delivering 5v at 1000mA as the OEM one does. Many chargers that are used for other phones or generic chargers only deliver 500mA. This is not enough when your battery drops very low. (these chargers are OK for occasional use but I do not advise using them regularly particularly if the no-charge syndrome has shown itself)
4.
A faulty USB connection on the phone. I have now seen a couple of reports where the fine wire connections in the phones USB port have become bent out of place.
Number 4 above is at least possible for the OP as it seems the battery will charge using a cut USB cable but not when either the PC USB cable or mains charger is connected. A USB port on the phone with a a bent internal contact would explain what's happening.
A previous poster was able with a needle or similar to bend the contact back into place.
Mike
i had the same problem with my phone.
put it in the charger overnight and woke up in the morning and couldnt turn on the phone with blinking red light. I don't know if my battery was over-drained though. I went to AT&T and was playing around with their charger and new battery and somehow the so-called dead battery started working again. They changed the SIM card on my phone there and then i haven't been able to use the phone since. I've changed the network to GSM instead of Auto setting under Phone Options which allows us to make calls; but now I can't connect to 3G network.
Charging thru mini usb
My phone started to exhibit similar problems...plugged in but no charging of the battery. I finally realized that my mini usb connection on the phone has been compromised (bent, distorted=not functioning properly) Now I have to prop the mini usb connection up at a slight angle to engage the charge. I think the plastic/metallic connector on the phone is somewhat fragile ...I had similar issues with my hermes.
called customer support.
they are sending me a new phone and battery.
how do i know its not a refurbished one? any clues?
before u send out your defect phone, have u check if your phone's mini-USB connector has bent or misaligned pins?
yeah all the connectors visually are fine.
Hiya,
about an hour ago I plugged my nearly dead Kaiser to the standart charger and connected it using bluetooth to my notebook. I was very surprised to hear the "Batter is very low" sound a few minutes later. I checked the screen and noticed that the display read "Charging" no more. Blink - and it's stone dead. I replugged the charger and started the device again. Batter was at 1% and began charging. As soon as it hit 15% of battery life, it stopped charging again, although "Recharging state: Charging" status remained. I switched to USB charger to see if it makes any difference - and it did. It started discharging the battery! Now it's plugged back in the standart charger again and it reads 14% for several minutes now. It looks more like it's "holding it there" than charging.
I tried two different USB cabels, the "wall" charger (English is really not my native language, I don't know the proper word - sorry) and no luck.
Three or four soft resets, pulling out and returning the battery, nothing running in the background - just Phone, Data Connection and Internet Sharing. I'm using unmodified radio and Sleuth 3.0 ROM.
P.S. It looks to me that the battery is discharging much more faster than I was used to. As soon as I pull the charger out, the battery drops two or three percent.
Any ideas? I'm afraid my Kaiser / battery is dead.
EDIT: The battery is warm and I can see the "charging" icon in the kaiser's taskbar
RLOD
About the charging LED, usually yellow, turned to red? Just to clarify better your situation for all members here.
When the charger is disconnected, it flashes green, when I plug in the charger, it turns orange.
No RED led. That is a very good thing.
Do you don't have any spare battery already or maybe a friend will have one?
Looks like a fault battery - are you using it since when?
I bought this Kaiser about a month ago, but it's not new. The previous owner bought it in November, last year. The battery was healthy until today.
This sounds like a battery issue to me also. These are classic signs of a dying battery. The good news is that the phone is still trying to charge it.
Just as an experiment I took out my battery and put it on a multimeter. At 94% charged (when I took it out) it showed 4.09 volts and 1240mAh. I've had my tilt for 3.5 months now.
Try a hard reset could fix a program gliche if you have one..but it does sound like you have a "croaking battery"
ME TOO--
Was tempted to start a new thread, but figured someone might still read this one.
Last night my Tilt was fine,
and today I noticed that it was incredibly warm/hot to touch. After being plugged in and charging normally for a while, I looked back and noticed that the charging icon was not displaying anymore--just the normal battery icon.
This began last night as well, whenever my battery would hit 100% it would stop displaying the charging icon and return to the battery icon. I would then unplug it and plug it back in and it would go back to normal.
As of right now, it goes back and forth between refusing to show me the charging icon and showing me the charging icon. The light is yellow/orange.
Does this probably mean my battery is dying? Even when the charge icon refuses to show up, when I plug in the charger the backlight switches to the external power profile level of brightness.
It really came out of nowhere. I'm hoping it's some fluke that came out of nowhere, or that some strange registry key that decides it's going to jack up my hardware temperature, drain my battery, and not want to be plugged in anymore got changed.
It's about 2 months old, and I'd be really disappointed if the battery was already croaking.
O wise sages of xda-dev, please enlighten me. The thing charges really slowly now.
i plug the tilt into the charger and it does not charge. the left led starts to blink amber and the phone recognizes that it's plugged. but still doesn't charge.
i tried some tricks and i found out that when i take out and put back in the battery(while connected) it starts to charge (the led is amber, not flashing and the battery level goes up).
after I use it for a bit and try to charge again the problem comes back.
(i haven't found any post describing that kind of symptoms)
Sounds like you battery is the problem, try to replace it and see it it changes something!
First, unfortunately I don't have an answer to your problem.
But to make it easier on someone else to eventually help you, could you please answer the following questions:
1. Is it the original charger and battery you are using?
1a. If the answer is no, what charger/battery model are you using?
2. Does the phone charge if connected via USB to a computer?
3. How long have you had your Tilt for and how long does the battery last when it's on full charge?
4. Do you know anyone else that has a Tilt/kaiser who would let you see if you can charge their battery in your phone? (to see if the problem might be with the phone and not the battery although I highly doubt it)
The battery cells might be "dead" - after charging your phone repeatedly over a long span of time it can happen.
Jonasteddybear said:
1. Is it the original charger and battery you are using?
1a. If the answer is no, what charger/battery model are you using?
2. Does the phone charge if connected via USB to a computer?
3. How long have you had your Tilt for and how long does the battery last when it's on full charge?
4. Do you know anyone else that has a Tilt/kaiser who would let you see if you can charge their battery in your phone? (to see if the problem might be with the phone and not the battery although I highly doubt it)
The battery cells might be "dead" - after charging your phone repeatedly over a long span of time it can happen.
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1. Both are original
2. Does the same thing as with the charger.
3. The device has around 2 months, the battery life is same as it was brand new
4. i might be able to check it with different battery during the weekend
Although, i think the battery is fine. It looks like the phone does not initiate the charge, but when you will do the trick (take the battery out and put it back) it will be charged normally.
I had a similar problem yesterday, whilst charging the phone during a car journey.
My suspicion is that the problem in my case was due to overheating. It was a hot day and the phone was getting cooked in the sunlight on top of the dashboard (the phone did feel very hot). Removing and re-inserting the battery worked for about 5 minutes then problem re-appeared. I put the phone away and tried it later on, when it had clouded over and the temperature had dropped - the phone charged OK. Have not had any problems since.
Edit: thanks to this post, my problem has been solved. Thanks!
So last night I went from stock motorola 2.2 to this wonderful-seeming version of CyanogenMod on my UK milestone - the install went flawlessly, but now I have a problem - my battery is not charging at ALL.
While the phone was on last night after I charged it, it was plugged in, first to my PC and then to the wall socket. In both cases, the battery indicator had a ? (question mark) on it.
I thought it might have been some weirdness with battery calibration so I left it and plugged the phone in from the wall to charge overnight. This morning, my phone was telling me to connect my charger (despite it being plugged in) and on removing the power cable, it died due to no battery power left within 10 minutes.
While plugged in from the wall, the battery indicator comes up but again just contains a ? on it. The little white light next to the power socket never lights up.
If I plug the phone in to my PC via USB then if the handset is OFF, the white light comes on and around 10 mins later it gets enough juice to boot up. The problem is that when the CM7 software starts, the little white light disappears, the phone stops charging despite the cable being present, and it then dies 2 minutes later.
I know the battery is fine because it was perfectly fine before I installed CM7.
Anyone else experienced this problem and/or know how to fix it?
One thing I did manage to do before it died was install a battery calibration app that I found on xda-developers - this told me that the battery was running at 3267 mV - any idea if that's good or bad?
(and yes, I'm using precisely the same cable/charger I was using before I put this version of CM7 on, so I know they are fine - they charge a friend's SGS with no problems)
thatbloke83 said:
So last night I went from stock motorola 2.2 to this wonderful-seeming version of CyanogenMod on my UK milestone - the install went flawlessly, but now I have a problem - my battery is not charging at ALL.
While the phone was on last night after I charged it, it was plugged in, first to my PC and then to the wall socket. In both cases, the battery indicator had a ? (question mark) on it.
I thought it might have been some weirdness with battery calibration so I left it and plugged the phone in from the wall to charge overnight. This morning, my phone was telling me to connect my charger (despite it being plugged in) and on removing the power cable, it died due to no battery power left within 10 minutes.
While plugged in from the wall, the battery indicator comes up but again just contains a ? on it. The little white light next to the power socket never lights up.
If I plug the phone in to my PC via USB then if the handset is OFF, the white light comes on and around 10 mins later it gets enough juice to boot up. The problem is that when the CM7 software starts, the little white light disappears, the phone stops charging despite the cable being present, and it then dies 2 minutes later.
I know the battery is fine because it was perfectly fine before I installed CM7.
Anyone else experienced this problem and/or know how to fix it?
One thing I did manage to do before it died was install a battery calibration app that I found on xda-developers - this told me that the battery was running at 3267 mV - any idea if that's good or bad?
(and yes, I'm using precisely the same cable/charger I was using before I put this version of CM7 on, so I know they are fine - they charge a friend's SGS with no problems)
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Try plugging the phone into the wall charger, without the battery. Try and boot it up and let it boot. Once it's booted up, give it a bit and try and put the battery in and leave it to charge.
What happens if you turn off you phone and plug it in a wall charger? If the problem isn't in your battery it will charge fully.
When you phone comes up, try to disable the 1% battery steps in settings. I got a problem with it, and after disabled/enabled it worked fine for me.
Hope this helps.
On plugging it into a wall charger, the phone comes up with its special battery charging screen (i.e. a fullscreen battery level indicator) - no amount of pressing the power button seems to get it to boot properly (with or without the battery).
I'll see if I can get in and get rid of the 1% steps thing later, thanks for the suggestion
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What happens if you turn off you phone and plug it in a wall charger? If the problem isn't in your battery it will charge fully.
When you phone comes up, try to disable the 1% battery steps in settings. I got a problem with it, and after disabled/enabled it worked fine for me.
Hope this helps.
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Dude, that was PERFECT.
Managed to get enough juice into the thing to get into the menu for a moment and was able to disable the 1% battery steps option - soon as I touch that tickbox, the battery indicator switches from a ? to the charging symbol and the phone starts charging. Thanks a million!
Nop dude, you are welcome
So like the title said i have replaced the battery in my P9, with an original battery. It has the same part number and all that. I have noticed that the phone won't charge the replacement battery, i have returned the new battery in warranty and revived another one. Same thing, the phone starts up as soon as you plug in any kind of power source to it , like a charger, but no charging notification. The notification light pulses in rare intervals (some thing of 10 secs or more) but it's not steadily on like when normally charging. And the most vexing thing is : if i replace the original battery it charges. Unfortunately the the original battery now has the bad habit of cutting out on me at random from anywhere 47% or bellow .... The phone is nearly 3 year old now.
Have you given the new batteries some time to charge? Maybe they were delivered to you fully discharged.
First one was on 85% the second on 60% or so. I kept the 1st one on charger for a whole weekend... Still nothing
Have you tried to callibrate the original battery (you say it suddenly drops if below 40%)?
Yes, I have allowed the battery to run down to 3% and the phone turning itself off. Then fully charged it while being off. So the original battery is just plain old, nearly 3y old. The problem is that the phone refuses to charge the new batteries regardless of original charge. Also it turns automatically on when you plug in a charger, not just showing the charge animation. That is not normal behavior.
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Recalibrate how?
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Did you try to search?!
There is a thread on battery calibration (XDA, Huawei P9, Q and A
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75592069&postcount=18
zgfg said:
Did you try to search?!
There is a thread on battery calibration (XDA, Huawei P9, Q and A
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75592069&postcount=18
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I've done that after reading you'r message , but i have already done the steps not req root. And i'm not willing to root my phone.
P9 also not charging
Did you manage to find a resolution to this issues? I'm having the same problem with my P9. I changed my battery, and it now won't charge. It turns on ok, and everything seems to be working. When I plug in the charging cable, it makes the sound it usually does, the battery symbol flashes green but instantly turns white again. When the phone is off, plugging the cable in switches it on, but no charge. I've had two replacement batteries, both have the same issue. Also, the original battery is now doing the same. I'm wondering if I damaged something while removing the battery.
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Did you manage to find a resolution to this issues? I'm having the same problem with my P9. I changed my battery, and it now won't charge. It turns on ok, and everything seems to be working. When I plug in the charging cable, it makes the sound it usually does, the battery symbol flashes green but instantly turns white again. When the phone is off, plugging the cable in switches it on, but no charge. I've had two replacement batteries, both have the same issue. Also, the original battery is now doing the same. I'm wondering if I damaged something while removing the battery.
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I think it's problem in charging IC or port.
Hi all
Had same issue with replacement battery
After replacement battery isn't charging. Problem is in bad connections
(probably from long shelf storage connectors got rusty)
Voltage was fine but temperature reading was way off (very low -2) and phone didn't charge battery
Problem is that there was no error message about battery temp.
After cleaning the contactors battery reading became normal and it started charging
Anybody ever had any solution to this problem? I have the same issue. Battery replaced - not taking any charge. If micro USB charger plugged in - the phone turns on. If it is already turned on plugging in the charger the screen flashes the % of the charge and nothing.