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[Q] probably my last attempt... please help.

hi everyone,
with the G2 coming out next month, I think this is gonna be my last attempt at getting my G1 working acceptably.
for those of you that would like to skip my sob story/history, you can skip to the next paragraph. i've had a G1 since july 2009. even though i do love it and android, the thing has constantly run horribly for me. constant lag, a history of force closes (although lately none of that luckily), lots of freezing, restarts etc. i've gone thru tons of different roms, currently on e-Xtreme 2.1 version 1.3. had lots of experienced people from these boards help me with flashing, setting up, reflashing, flashing again, setting up again, formatting my sd card, trying different setups, unrooting and rerooting. we've tried all different kinds of things to get me running well. i'm also at this point using NO widgets except the google search bar and the power widget included in 2.1. when i go to running services all i have is android keyboard, quick search box, gtalkservice, twidroyd, cm updater (impossible to shut off it seems), and setcpu. still i get constant lag from everything from opening messages, to opening websites, to getting back to the home screen, to pretty much everything. forget about loading the camera, it can take like 15 seconds sometimes! i frequently use cachemate to clear my cache. honestly right now the phone is working pretty much the best it's ever worked, but its still awful. also sometimes when i get back to my homescreen my icons don't show up. it's actually bad enough that sometimes i will just not bother doing something i wanted to do cause i dont feel like dealing with it lagging and/or freezing up. and forget about widgets. haha.
ok so, you may or may not have skipped all of that, but at this point, i want my phone to run better in a last ditch effort to maybe be able to stick with the g1 until my full contract is up in july 2011. if not i'm doing the early upgrade and reupping my 2 year contract and getting the g2 next month... what i'm wondering is maybe theres an app i have installed that's eating up memory in some way and is a known issue. i've searched around but haven't found anything about these, and rather than sit here and delete each one, one by one, waiting to see if the phone runs better, i figured i'd just type out a list and see if anyone knows of any known issues with any of these... so here it goes:
astro
barcode scanner
cachemate
calwidget
color flashlight
craigsnotifica
dolphin browser
droidball
drop
facebook
frontiers demo
googles
google sky map
gscript lite
last.fm
latitude
lyric droid
magic gem II demo
movies
myspace
nesoid
news and weather
newsrob
orbs knockoff
painting findings
pandora
pingdroid
replica island
rom manager
setcpu
springpad
soduku free
tangram master full
throw a panda
that's it. i really don't think that's so excessive. i mean theres only like 5 or 6 games in there and some of those things like setcpu, facebook and cachemate are pratically required for proper phone usage. and i wouldn't even bother having a phone without twidroyd and newsrob.
so has anyone heard of any known issues with lag caused by having one of these installed and/or one of these doing something in the background that slows stuff down?
thanks so much to anyone that helps. i'm willing to give this one more try. maybe even wiping and reflashing one more time, but after the dozen times i have already, i think i might just be expecting too much haha.
thanks
Dave

[Q] Is it just me or is the pinch overview for the touch wiz app drawer REALLY laggy?

Hi guys!
I discovered last week that newer firmwares like JPK and JPM have a pinch-overview feature for the app drawer. I never noticed this until i read it mentioned in a thread somewhere about the new SGS froyo features. I decided to try it out on a freshly flashed phone and it looked great and seemed really useful to me.
If you're unsure of what I'm talking about, it's similar to how you can pinch the home screen to have an overview of all your current homescreens and from there you can add, delete, move their positions around, or quickly jump to one of them. The app drawer for touch wiz has this as well apparently but just for rearranging panes or quickly jumping to one of them.
However, as I started filling up my phone with apps and gathered about 5 or 6 panes worth of apps, whenever I'd try doing the pinch-overview thing it was extremely slow in scrolling up or down. Sometimes it starts out fine but for some reason chokes up in the middle and sometimes it's incredibly slow to the point it is literally crawling up or down instead of actually scrolling...it's extremely frustrating.
I am currently running the latest beta for Voodoo lagfix on JPM. I keep my ram usage in check using Watchdog and Autostarts so I don't have all too many background stuff going on that would cause the slow down. The phone is nice and snappy in every aspect aside from this.

I use Launcher Pro. TW is Samsung so it's crap.

I happen to like TouchWiz actually but I understand why a lot of people dislike it. :O Maybe I like the iPhone-esque layout. I never owned an iPhone though.

I have just 6 panes of applications but no lag in the pinch zoom or scrolling. Rooted JP6, no lagfix.

Pinch zooming the apps does result in laggy scrolling here too, not very annoying though, since i can still easily jump from first to last page that way.

Yes, trying to scroll the "pinch-viewed" app drawer is painful to watch, and I only have 5-6 pages of apps. This is on rooted JP6 with OCLF v2.

Yeap, confirmed that it's super laggy. Using (official) Froyo, rooted, no lag fix.

Yeah good thing it lags so much that a quick flick does take you all the way to your last few panes of apps without a hitch. The SGS just loses more of its "slickness" though because of the lag in this aspect. If it were smooth and fluid here then not only does it feel and look great, it has great show-off value as well
This is pretty much my only pet peeve at the moment with the SGS. GPS never locks for me but I don't use GPS all that much so I can live. Things still lag for a few seconds whenever apps are installing but it's nothing too excruciating.
I hope future builds optimize this aspect as well as fix the other issues of the SGS (GPS etc. etc.)

Problem went away!
Strange. I added a ton of apps resulting in about 9 pages worth of apps and for some reason the pinch-overview lag is pretty much gone!
I haven't done anything special. If you ask me, I thought my SGS would be lagging a lot more than usual with the addition of more apps. I've also been customizing my homescreens with all kinds of widgets I thought would be eating up more memory/cpu but surprisingly I hardly notice a change in performance! And I'm not complaining that the lag went away. It's great that it did! Now my SGS experience is almost perfect!
I'm still not using any real auto-task killers or dedicated memory boosters. Here's my setup:
SGS on JPM (2.2)
Voodoo lag fix 5 pre4
Autostarts (turns off certain receivers that make apps autostart) - paid, forgot the price
Watchdog (monitor and "kill" running apps) - paid, forgot the price
SmartBar (to turn off certain services) - free

[Q] What Bloatware have you frozen/uninstalled without incident?

On my LG Revolution My SystemPanel App shows about 350 MB memory and 12 GB on the SD card. It also cites System Storage 1 GB, Application Storage 1.5 GB and Cache 193 MB. The SuperBox app shows 1.5 GB "Phone" memory. With about 25 applications "active" and several widgets installed, I still have 134 MB memory left
So far I've found the battery life not great, definitely have to charge during the day with 4lte and wifi on.
Noticed a bunch of the bloatware widgets took up memory even when I deleted them from the homescreen. Used TitaniumBackup to Freeze
Apps I've frozen with no apparent problems (yet).
411 Search
AutoRun
Backup Assistant
Bing
BitBop
Blockbuster
Bookmarks Widget
City ID
com.android.LGSetupWizard
com.android.providers.applications
come.lge.mobilehotspot
DeskHome
Digital Clock Widget
Email
Email Widget
Friends+ Widget
Guided tours
Home 2.2.2
In Touch Widget
Lets Golf
LGWirelessChargingService
LTE Test Application
Message Widget
Mobile IM
Music Visualization Wallpapers
Netflix
News 1.0
Polaris Office
Rhapsody
Rock Band
Setup Wizard
SmartShare
Software update
Sync Service
Today+Widget
VCast Apps
VCast Media Manager
VZ Navigator
Weather
What's New
What's New Widget
Wi-Fi control widget
World clock widget

Cutterstark said:
On my LG Revolution My SystemPanel App shows about 350 MB memory and 12 GB on the SD card. It also cites System Storage 1 GB, Application Storage 1.5 GB and Cache 193 MB. The SuperBox app shows 1.5 GB "Phone" memory. With about 25 applications "active" and several widgets installed, I still have 134 MB memory left
So far I've found the battery life not great, definitely have to charge during the day with 4lte and wifi on.
Noticed a bunch of the bloatware widgets took up memory even when I deleted them from the homescreen. Used TitaniumBackup to Freeze
Apps I've frozen with no apparent problems (yet).
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Ya, coming from the incredible, even stock I would have 100-150 mbs of ram, and rooted I'd have usually 180-210. This phone, having the same amount of ram as that, will be anywhere from 30-100 usually. That's some pretty bad bloat.
In 3g only network, the phone actually has a really good battery(compared to the incredible), I can go all day without root so far, the baddest part is the % i lose just sitting there without use and the screen off, it sucks.
And have you been able to assign Google where Bing had priority before? I have the bing search relatively good, just really laggy.

Thanks for this list! I had started to experiment but kept it on the safe side since we don't have a recovery yet.
I noticed that there is quite a bit more listed in Bloat Freezer over Titanium which was my first freeze app. I tried Bloat Freezer when I noticed that some things that were frozen were still showing running processes.
A couple of notes to add on to this -- I'm running Go Launcher and cannot use any of the LG specific widgets, Friends+, What's New, etc. but:
What's New is still running and has functionality beyond the What's New widget. I forget the details but I think on a missed call I got the What's New app to display missed call, sms and email count from the pull down alerts. It was late and I didn't think twice about it until the next day (which is what prompted me to find out what was still running in the background even though I'm using Go Launcher.
I'm not sure exactly which Verizon app is responsible, but i recently unfroze all Verizon specific apps while experimenting and I was prompted to try the new data usage widget from Verizon. When I originally froze all these apps, that widget had stopped working in stock home. So it is not dependent on your home/launcher, but it is dependent on one of the VZ apps.
I'm tempted to just go down your list and freeze everything all at once, but maybe I'll do it in small batches and report back any findings.
Again, thanks for the list!

Wow, that is a ton of frozen bloatpops... didn't think too much of it but that's more apps than i had on my Inc. total on CM.. lol.
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hmm.. how to restore search button?
I can confirm the following, as well:
DeskHome
Digital Clock widget
Email
Email widget
finance
friends+ widget
guided tours
home 2.2.2
lg keyboard
lgwirelesschargingservice
news 1.0
rhapsody
slacker
sns
v cast apps
v cast media manager
vs navigator
vzw package installer
vzw sms filter
vzwservice
weather
world clock widget
I also just completely uninstalled bing search + bing voice.
I seem to be experiencing a couple issues:
1. Search button did not remap to Google Search... so it does nothing at all
2. Lockscreen music controller seems to control a separate instance of the notification area music controller
Avail: 154MB +29MB in 4
(bah!)

I've gone through most of these without a problem -- the last one is VZWSERVICE which is now repeatedly popping up:
Sorry!
The application com.vzw.push.vzwservice (process com.vzw.push.vzwservice) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
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Every time I click on "force close" it just pops up again. I'm about to pull the battery.
...
Rebooted OK.
I'll add a few more to the list:
Amazon Kindle
Bing Voice
Quick Reference Guide
User Guide
I'm curious though what purpose do these serve:
SNS
VZW SMS Filter
VZWService
I have them frozen and already recieved an SMS, so no hindrance there. I recognize the SNS icon from when I first got the phone (one of the widgets I think). I can't see any effect of having them frozen other than the obvious of course.

Be careful with these, I used Bloat Freezer to freeze a small subset of the apps listed in this thread (and none others) and now don't have a home screen. I turn on the phone, slide to unlock, and then the screen is black (normal indicator icons at the top). Holding home gets me to a recent apps page with no recent apps. Nothing else does anything, I can't even turn off the phone without taking the battery out. Any ideas?

the ones i posted can be frozen with no incident.
of course i use a custom launcher (launcher pro) so i can't attest to the home screen working
however, after freezing some other apps listed in other posts my bluetooth wouldn't work...

I use Go Launcher and I was able to add a few to the lists above:
Tunewiki
Sync Service
Mobile IM
Messaging Widget
Messaging (I use GO SMS)
Does anyone know what the LG and Verizon hidden menus processes are?
System seems a lot faster now and has better battery as far as I can tell.
Only issue I can think of, is that When I have my BT earpiece on and connected, I can not seem to get music out of the 3.5mm jack and into the car's aux.
Anyone else have this problem? What is the solution?

What wifi tether is everyone using? My market won't update. So if anyone can post an apk that'd be great.
Also don't freeze autorun 1.0 i think it is. That is the connectivity option for our usb and hdmi slots. Without that it'll work but you can't change the options ever. So you'll be stuck with hdmi off or on and usb charge only cause i think it always starts as.
Little Buddy Sr.

OP:...just a thought, take it or leave it haha
It would be greatly appreciated if you could update the list every so often with new ones added throughout the thread. Then maybe this could become a sticky at some point.
Also:
Anyone else realize Latitude and Twitter for LG doesnt show up in Ti Backup yet is running every once in awhile.... or maybe it's just my phone?

Um I don't even remember twitter being on my phone, I use bloatfreezer and pretty much froze everything on the OP list. I don't think there is to much else that you want to freeze with out risking your phone

revolutionaryV said:
Be careful with these, I used Bloat Freezer to freeze a small subset of the apps listed in this thread (and none others) and now don't have a home screen. I turn on the phone, slide to unlock, and then the screen is black (normal indicator icons at the top). Holding home gets me to a recent apps page with no recent apps. Nothing else does anything, I can't even turn off the phone without taking the battery out. Any ideas?
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If you use the stock launcher and then freeze Home 2.2.2 then you will have no home screen.
I use Go launcher EX so I was able to freeze home with no problems.
Only thing I can think of is a factory reset. But I'm sure others have better ideas.

I don't think Twitter for LG (or anything for LG) is active without the LG Home active.

I left lg home active, twitter doesn't show up anywhere in bloatfreezer. I have nothing on my phone that even refers to twitter.

Yea i'm not really sure where it's at. I think it's a sub-app(?) of something like one of those facebook/twitter/etc feed widgets. But every so often it shows up in my "running" folder on Go Launcher EX, and I used to see it in my task killer when I had one but i've never seen it on a list anywhere else.
rogue bloat? a new age in ruining our phones haha
As major said, and from what i've seen he's right 99% of the time, I haven't seen it since I froze/.bak LG Home. I'll post a screen shot if I end up seeing it again though

is there a reason that we can not just delete the .apk files from /system/app?

jxcgunrunna said:
is there a reason that we can not just delete the .apk files from /system/app?
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we're pretty much able to do that....but the hesitation has been because we have not had a recovery system and it's risky to start deleting any files at all.
However....a recovery system has been through testing lately(yesterday/today) and was released. There's no saying it's perfect but I haven't heard of anyone having big issues. So if you are comfortable with the recovery system available, delete away.

nick99wj said:
we're pretty much able to do that....but the hesitation has been because we have not had a recovery system and it's risky to start deleting any files at all.
However....a recovery system has been through testing lately(yesterday/today) and was released. There's no saying it's perfect but I haven't heard of anyone having big issues. So if you are comfortable with the recovery system available, delete away.
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I will pick one up tonight and see what I can do once I get root and CWM on there. I will post my findings.

revolutionaryV said:
Be careful with these, I used Bloat Freezer to freeze a small subset of the apps listed in this thread (and none others) and now don't have a home screen. I turn on the phone, slide to unlock, and then the screen is black (normal indicator icons at the top). Holding home gets me to a recent apps page with no recent apps. Nothing else does anything, I can't even turn off the phone without taking the battery out. Any ideas?
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Hopefully you have this fixed already if not:
not sure if this will work but...connect your phone as a USB and hope it connects as a Mass Storage. Go into data/app and delete the Titanium Backup .apk
No idea if this will work, but it's possible that with TiBackup gone it will unfreeze everything.

Multitasking on SGS1

Hi
I have a question about the multitasking on the sgs. Right now I have been running ~4,5 days without a system-restart and now my multitasking ability is kind of non-existent. It is difficult to have two apps running at the same time. When I switch between apps they most probably need to be reopened again. And the contacs-app always needs to be reopened, it never sticks in the memory. I am using a stripped down jw1 odex rom(surface), about 40 apps installed and two widgets running. Im using thunderbolt 2.5.1 script and a kernel(midnight) with lmk set to 65mb.
Its been a long time since I had my sgs running such a long time without restart so I havent thought about this before but now I realised that it is kind of annoying. It's like the system eats up all the ram.
Is there anyone else that have the same multitasking behavior on their phone?
Thanks

Stop using LMK.......... simple solution.......

battery died overnight

I charged my phone last night to 100% and unplugged it.
When I woke up now it was off. So I turned it on. It went to the LG screen, then Rogers, then went black. Tried it again, same thing.
So I plugged it into the wall and the silver battery icon came up flashing. 5 minutes later now it has 1 red bar.
Why would it die over night? Nothing was running.

It might be because of a widget,not stock.

Yeah.....u definitely had something running in the background.

Make a list of all apps you have installed.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II w/ CM9

Same happened to me about 4 times.
Its usually a sync process that drains the phone. I guess Exchange server sync.

well I recently installed Go Launcher. I always go application manager and stop all when I am not using the phone though.
Other than this the battery has been better on gingerbread.

ok there are a few apps that keep starting up even though I stop all applications.
- messaging
- rom manager
- youtube
- winamp
- google +
how can I stop them from constantly opening?
youtube and winamp are both widgets on my screens. but on stock froyo if I "stop all" they wouldn't suck up power or anything.
I never use google + so I don't know why it's there.
rom manager don't use anymore since I am not rooted.

If you dont hav titanium backup pro then get it its so worth the couple bucks u can freeze apps so they cant run or u can totally for the other apps u use not much u can do about them running in the background. What kills my batt the most is auto sync and auto baackground data i always turn them off when im not using them

xstokerx said:
If you dont hav titanium backup pro then get it its so worth the couple bucks u can freeze apps so they cant run or u can totally for the other apps u use not much u can do about them running in the background. What kills my batt the most is auto sync and auto baackground data i always turn them off when im not using them
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titanium backup requires root. I just upgraded to gingerbread 2.3 so I don't want to play with root right now.
I need help though because only since I upgraded these apps keep coming up.
I am KILLING apps with application manager. These pop up like minutes later.
- email
- google plus
- winamp
- gmail
- messaging
why are these popping up constantly? I never had this with froyo 2.2.2

umirin said:
titanium backup requires root. I just upgraded to gingerbread 2.3 so I don't want to play with root right now.
I need help though because only since I upgraded these apps keep coming up.
I am KILLING apps with application manager. These pop up like minutes later.
- email
- google plus
- winamp
- gmail
- messaging
why are these popping up constantly? I never had this with froyo 2.2.2
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the only way to do any thing about it is to root and task killers dont help any these things are accully worse cuz the os just opens the programs again and that uses cpu cycles

xstokerx said:
the only way to do any thing about it is to root and task killers dont help any these things are accully worse cuz the os just opens the programs again and that uses cpu cycles
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I know I read task killlers are not worth it.
But as I said, this did NOT happen with Froyo 2.2.2.
I don't even use google +, why would it ever open?
I didn't open my email, SYNC IS OFF. Yet it's there.
Messaging is open, not texting anyone. In froyo I always killed messaging when I was done. It never came back.
ROM manager has no reason to be open since I am not rooted.

apps like Rogers navigation - NEVER use just randomly pop up in the application manager.
Someone must have an answer for this.
My phone is NOT rooted. Stock gingerbread 2.3.

Hey umirin,
I too had noticed that the phone would constantly restart random apps that weren't being used, despite seemingly nothing happening. It pissed me off to no end, but the reason why it happens is because the programmers write in queues for the programs to start, such as 'screen on,' 'screen off,' and my personal favorites, 'wifi state change' and 'connectivity change.' There's an app called autostarts on the market (it costs about a dollar i think) that will let you disable all of these, so now I have no random apps starting and my battery life is much better There are free ones on the market you can try as well just to see, but they didn't give me nearly the access to all the queues that autostarts does. It's a damn good app. Also, if you want to freeze apps and you don't want to fork out for the paid version of Titanium Backup, AntTek App Manager can freeze all the apps you want for free good luck improving your battery life, I just bought a 3500 mAh battery on amazon to improve mine lol and now the phone is a beast.

the phone is just storing them in ram its not using cpu cycles or battery wile in ram its so if you do use the apps it loads faster

True, while it is in the ram it does not use CPU cycles. But when it loads them, it does. I've also noticed the phone slow down noticeably and even crash when there's tons of apps left in the memory. For some reason it just doesn't handle cleaning up the unused ones very well. But there are some apps that simply don't need to be loaded every time common events occur on the phone, such as changing connectivity from wifi to the cellular network. Consider this. You leave those (useless) background programs to load when the phone changes connectivity. Then you start your browser, which uses a considerable amount of ram. To make room for the browser, the operating system SHUTS THESE BACKGROUND PROGRAMS DOWN. Stay with me here. Later on, when your phone inevitably changes connectivity again, guess what those little background programs do? They start up again. And that consumes CPU cycles and battery. And they're used for nothing, which means all they amounted to is wasted CPU cycles and battery. In my opinion, it is sloppy programming by the app developers to require their apps to start every time an event like that happens. It consumes resources that are precious on a mobile system such as a cell phone. But it is very useful to leave commonly used apps such as your messaging service or browser in the memory. In fact, the messaging app was the only app I left to start on most of the events on the phone for that exact reason. It's just things like ROM manager and Titanium Backup starting themselves up just to hang out that is a waste.

Your right that's how it works but can't do any thing about it ecsept what was posted above
so strange i left my phone on all night just to see and i only lost 2 percent??

ok why does this do it in gingerbread 2.3 but it didn't do it in froyo 2.2.2?

Wait where did u get the update from. I goto update and it says its not avaia
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-Epix- said:
Wait where did u get the update from. I goto update and it says its not avaia
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA Premium App
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I got the LG Updater tool from the LG website. As far as I know the update was for Rogers Customers. Updated from Froyo -> Gingerbread. But there are problems with the GB Baseband with ghost calls. The update here was released Feb 1, 2012. I'm just hoping they don;t say "We gave you the Gingerbread update so no Icecream Sandwich until 2013"

yeah figures att and lg couldn't do us all a favor