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Nexus One charging at 106F ~Froyo

my nexus one is charging on a regular basis around 106-7 F. I know there is another thread about this issue but the question was not resolved. So does anyone have experience with this issue. Is it a defect or dangerous? I have OSmonitor installed, this si where I am reading my temps. I also notice the CPU usage is pegged around 98-99%..is this normal?
I heard using setCPU with a charging profile can solve this problem if you have root?

No, it is not normal for the cpu to be maxed out while charging. Are you using the car dock or a wall charger?

nexous one
mine does the same thing all the time its not going to damage your phone at all
my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
my phone is perfect just set your set cpu for fail safe and your all good

You probably could use SetCPU to solve this problem, but the fact that your CPU usage is so high in the first place means there is something going wrong - my guess would be a rogue app.
Try downloading a task killer from the Market. Kill each app running one at a time then check your CPU usage. You'll soon find the culprit.

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my phone has got about 120 F on car doc
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Yeah I'm starting to see the problem with the phone having a metal casing. Not good when it's summer and you have to place it under direct sunlight for extended amounts of time, while using navigation AND charging
That thing can get burning hot alright.

Are you using froyo 2.2?
I have had the same problem; I also have random periods of high cpu use when not charging as well. This issue is not caused by problem apps either. I must reboot to fix the issue, sometimes I must reboot several times until the cpu load is back to normal.
I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
I will also try to reapply the 2.2 update.

Marine6680 said:
I am not sure it is a bug or a hardware fault. Maybe a quick call to HTC and/or google is in order.
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Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.

frandavid100 said:
Been there, done that. I opened a thread asking other users about the problem, and even mailed HTC's support. In the end I decided to try flashing the stock 2.1 rom again to see if the problem persisted, and it didn't.
I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware problem, but you might want to install eclair too and see if it works for you.
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I bet your heat issues are related to cpu loads or staying at high frequencies like mine. Sometimes the phone does not feel like it is really running as hard as the system monitors say, though it may still get hot.
Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
I am re-flashing the leaked 2.2 update to make sure there was no issue with the original install. I am also using the copy my GF downloaded when I sent her the instructions on the off chance that my download was corrupted in some small way; unlikely but hey. I do think that the original flash may have gone wrong, as mine hung and never rebooted after the flash was complete; I had to manually reboot. Lets hope this fixes it.
This issue may be more widespread than we realize, as many people do not actively monitor their cpu or notice/worry about the heat after charging. I do believe that these leaked ROMs send debug data to google, I remember reading something along those lines; these are internal test ROMs after all. Maybe this is a reason that 2.2 is not out yet, this and other bugs found during real world use.

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Where can I find the older ROM? I thought the bootloader would not allow going to older ROMs, or maybe I am mistaken.
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What I did was follow this guide up to the point where you have a stock eclair rom, then not upgrade to Froyo. Keep using that for some time, see whether the phone gets hot or not, THEN (if you want) move back to Froyo.

I am using the wall charger hat came with the nexus one. I am also running Froyo 2.2... can I set a CPU fail safe without my phone being rooted? Also what is a quick to check if my phone is rooted? I just bought this Nexus One from someone. I know on my G1 it was rooted bc I had Superuser permissions.

Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.

The fastest way I can think would be installing Lamppu, then trying to use it to light up the camera flash. If it works your phone is flashed, if it doesn't it's not.
As for your other questions... sorry, i don't know. I hope someone else can help you.

foethalove said:
Using OSmonitor I can sort the processes by their CPU load and the one process that always has the highest load is " /init" which always has around 85-96% of the load. You can also kill these processes directly inside of OSmonitor and I have tried killing " /init" to no avail.
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Thats a system process so you can not kill it.
Going to test my GFs nexus and see if she has these issues as well.

I restored my N1 to the factory image, the updated back through each update to 2.2; so far so good. My GF's N1 has been running fine since I really started watching it, so I figured it would hurt to try to restore and redo the update.

No 100% cpu load during charging any more!

i am using the Motorola charger and my phone is not getting hot at all. with the charger that comes in the box for the N1 it seems to heat up.

Still had the CPU load get stuck at 100% today; though charging is not forcing 100% loads any more.

By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?

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By the way, how do you measure how busy the processor is? How do you know that it's at 100%?
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System monitor apps, some will even put a little icon in the notification tray that shows current cpu load.

[Q] Random Reboots

Perhaps not random, but possibly keyboard related. I believe I have experienced at least three, perhaps more reboots at various times. I just had one a minute ago when I opened my keyboard from a sleep state (dark screen). My lockscreen had what looked like a Droid X background which caught my attention, then after a couple of seconds, it rebooted.
As I mentioned, this has happened at least twice before, but always when I was trying to do something and (I believe) involving the keyboard. I've never had it reboot in the middle of anything, so the impact is negligible. Add to that how FAST the D3 reboots, it's a very minor annoyance. My old Tbolt used to do that as well, but the reboot time was probably three or four times as long, and it sometimes did it in the middle of something.
Has anyone else experienced this? If you have, sound off and perhaps we can get Moto's attention. If it's just me, then that's great news and I doubt I'll do anything about it since the impact is so minor.
It's hard not to notice since it makes the "Droid" noise when it reboots. Assuming you don't have the same sound assigned to a notification of course.

I noticed it yesterday once (and I just got the phone then too ;-; ), and it was while I was opening the camera app, I decided to open the keyboard for some reason (I don't know why), the phone locked up for a minute and then just rebooted. I also had a temporary lockup while opening up the keyboard while opening Handcent, but it regained responsiveness after about 15 seconds. For me it happens to be something to do with the keyboard while opening apps. We need more people to reproduce this problem so we can get down to the root cause :|

Got two droid 3`s in my house and haven't experience any random boots.
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Happened to me while talking on the phone a few times. Got a replacement and it happened again. Never with the keyboard though. Very troubling especially with the second handset.

I have experienced reboots with the camera and camcorder apps lagging, and just general issues with those apps anyway.
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I haven't had it happen since I originally posted until today. Today it rebooted in my pocket.

Perhaps it could just be a heat issue. I noticed that another thing along with my other conditions I posted was that the phone felt really hot.

Immolate said:
Perhaps not random, but possibly keyboard related. I believe I have experienced at least three, perhaps more reboots at various times. I just had one a minute ago when I opened my keyboard from a sleep state (dark screen). My lockscreen had what looked like a Droid X background which caught my attention, then after a couple of seconds, it rebooted.
As I mentioned, this has happened at least twice before, but always when I was trying to do something and (I believe) involving the keyboard. I've never had it reboot in the middle of anything, so the impact is negligible. Add to that how FAST the D3 reboots, it's a very minor annoyance. My old Tbolt used to do that as well, but the reboot time was probably three or four times as long, and it sometimes did it in the middle of something.
Has anyone else experienced this? If you have, sound off and perhaps we can get Moto's attention. If it's just me, then that's great news and I doubt I'll do anything about it since the impact is so minor.
It's hard not to notice since it makes the "Droid" noise when it reboots. Assuming you don't have the same sound assigned to a notification of course.
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The Droid 3 has a dual core 1 ghz processor processor built inside which is why it starts up so fast. Its probably having these problems because of the new android OS gingerbread 2.3.2 because of how new this operating system is. The first phone designed with the new OS for verizon wireless was the sony xperia which produced surprisingly a very good battery life with the processer designed for gaming built inside that phone.this reminds me of the first droid on Verizon the Motorola Droid A855 where there where some flukes where it would freeze up every now and then. But there were updates that eventually solved the problem. Because this is a relatively new OS there is deffinittely going to be some flukes in the software and there will be updates to solve these most likely coming soon. And especially as more and more users are buying this phone.

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The Droid 3 has a dual core 1 ghz processor processor built inside which is why it starts up so fast. Its probably having these problems because of the new android OS gingerbread 2.3.2 because of how new this operating system is. The first phone designed with the new OS for verizon wireless was the sony xperia which produced surprisingly a very good battery life with the processer designed for gaming built inside that phone.this reminds me of the first droid on Verizon the Motorola Droid A855 where there where some flukes where it would freeze up every now and then. But there were updates that eventually solved the problem. Because this is a relatively new OS there is deffinittely going to be some flukes in the software and there will be updates to solve these most likely coming soon. And especially as more and more users are buying this phone.
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1. Everyone knows that it's dual-core.
2. It runs Android 2.3.4. (Hence no root yet)
3. To the OP, no reboots. Had it since the 13th.
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I haven't seen another reboot since the 28th but I did have the odd experience last night of not being able to get a new wallpaper to take. In fact, I noticed that it had one of the stock wallpapers on it, the diagonal black and grey bars, but couldn't change it. Then this morning I thought about it and rebooted the phone. The last wallpaper I'd tried to change it to came up on reboot. Interesting but not alarming... unless it starts doing that frequently.
FYI I haven't noticed it running hot at any point.
Thanks for all the input everyone.

Probably seen it do it half a dozen times. IIRC it's not a full reboot, just the Android stack (i.e., same Linux kernel instance).
Have a logcat of one and don't seen anything that suggests where the problem is..just a whole bunch of "com.xxxxxx.xxxx has died" followed by normal restart log messages.

Odd that you all are experiencing this. I have not had a single reboot.
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This issue is starting to cause me a good bit of frustration. Most of the time it occurs when waking the phone (sliding out keyboard seems to make it particularly likely). Also seeing complete freezes now which require battery pull.
Phone is now more than 30 days old. It was purchased online. Anyone know the odds of getting a *NEW* (not refurbished) if attempting to return it now? I'm still pretty certain this is a software issue, but may try replacing it in the chance it isn't.

I went into wifi settings and chose to forget all the connections. No more random rebooted.

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I went into wifi settings and chose to forget all the connections. No more random rebooted.
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I wouldn't count on that being the issue.
I've had the problem out in the field (not connected to WiFi) and have had random reboots as well.

Heres a tip for troubleshooting this issue which i 90% guarantee - factory reset your phones put zero apps on them and tweaks, use it for a week and see if u get a reboot.
Then each week after add a single tweak or app(install/uninstall/freeze), may take a yr for some of us since we can't seem to stop downloading random badly coded apps lol...
-smc

For me at least SMC, I've had random reboots from stock during the first week. I'm putting it down to bad software for now.
I usually get 1 a week, sometimes less.

tliebeck said:
This issue is starting to cause me a good bit of frustration. Most of the time it occurs when waking the phone (sliding out keyboard seems to make it particularly likely). Also seeing complete freezes now which require battery pull.
Phone is now more than 30 days old. It was purchased online. Anyone know the odds of getting a *NEW* (not refurbished) if attempting to return it now? I'm still pretty certain this is a software issue, but may try replacing it in the chance it isn't.
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The same thing was happening to me, the whole rebooting and I went to Verizon for a replacement and got a refurbished DROID 3 Not a New :\
I really hope they fix this because its really bugging me. >:\
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I get a random reboot usually once a week or sometimes twice a week. It depends on how often I use my camera too.

WiFi Turning Off During Deep Sleep

Hi all,
Can anyone help with this issue. I can see no long discussion about it which seems to suggest it's either rare (not great) or something I am doing (probably).
My WiFi status appears to be fine throughout the day, when in regular use. I have no speed issues (connection speeds as expected for my home internet), no random drops or on/off switches and no seeming battery drain. I have all additional services on (Bluetooth, location and NFC as I want the phone to be fully functional at all times and not just 'look nice') and despite this I get what I would expect in battery life (c. 6 hrs screen on time). YET, amongst a few other problems (what is the slider customisation about - awful!) the one I can't fathom is this:
My WiFi switches off over night presumably when the phone goes into deep sleep. I have gone into the advanced settings and set it to 'Always on' but this doesn't seem to keep it 'always on'. I wake up in the morning and it is off. I was running some Tasker profiles (which seem to make little difference given the slider issue noted above) but actually my WiFi isn't one off the Tasks effected by a night time profile.
Any help would be appreciated.
AS a secondary question, I switched my VPN over to Canada as suggested and was provided with the Nougat update. I haven't yet tried it but was wondering if there are any bugs that I should consider before switching over given I am 4 days into owning this phone and still haven't ironed out certain things in Marshmallow.

Just as a follow up question, would the 'turn Doze off' option help with this? Surely I shouldn't have to do this though?

Am I the only one having this issue? That would suck. Even so, would anybody more adept at these things than me like to have a guess at solving the issue.

IV had agresive dose mode on and haven't had any wifi problems but I am on 4.0.1 so might want to just update it as it's really stable and I haven't had any issue except having to reconfigure the APN settings. PS if you do update reset you phone after as some people have said it helps with the new file system.

Greedyfly said:
Hi all,
Can anyone help with this issue. I can see no long discussion about it which seems to suggest it's either rare (not great) or something I am doing (probably).
My WiFi status appears to be fine throughout the day, when in regular use. I have no speed issues (connection speeds as expected for my home internet), no random drops or on/off switches and no seeming battery drain. I have all additional services on (Bluetooth, location and NFC as I want the phone to be fully functional at all times and not just 'look nice') and despite this I get what I would expect in battery life (c. 6 hrs screen on time). YET, amongst a few other problems (what is the slider customisation about - awful!) the one I can't fathom is this:
My WiFi switches off over night presumably when the phone goes into deep sleep. I have gone into the advanced settings and set it to 'Always on' but this doesn't seem to keep it 'always on'. I wake up in the morning and it is off. I was running some Tasker profiles (which seem to make little difference given the slider issue noted above) but actually my WiFi isn't one off the Tasks effected by a night time profile.
Any help would be appreciated.
AS a secondary question, I switched my VPN over to Canada as suggested and was provided with the Nougat update. I haven't yet tried it but was wondering if there are any bugs that I should consider before switching over given I am 4 days into owning this phone and still haven't ironed out certain things in Marshmallow.
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This happens when people is crying about updates every day. Then, when the updates are available, they update it in the first minute and again, they start crying, that they encounter bugs and stuff that doesnt work as it should, even if they dont have any idea how to revert their OS to the previous working one. People should learn how to be patient and enjoy their phones without being so greedy about updates.
Just sit tight, enjoy your phone, READ forums about latest updates and the problems encountered on that specific update ( since its still a beta update, and an early one , called Beta 1 ). If they seem to be fine with those issue, ONLY then should update to the latest one.

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This happens when people is crying about updates every day. Then, when the updates are available, they update it in the first minute and again, they start crying, that they encounter bugs and stuff that doesnt work as it should, even if they dont have any idea how to revert their OS to the previous working one. People should learn how to be patient and enjoy their phones without being so greedy about updates.
Just sit tight, enjoy your phone, READ forums about latest updates and the problems encountered on that specific update ( since its still a beta update, and an early one , called Beta 1 ). If they seem to be fine with those issue, ONLY then should update to the latest one.
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I haven't 'cried' about anything, pal, so keep your unhelpful comments to yourself or help. Don't middle ground-it by offering your own personal, and incorrect, opinions.
I hadn't upgraded anything, I was running stock OS and stock marshmallow, so I had literally done nothing to my device other than switch it on and download the same apps I've been using for years.
I've also rooted several devices in the past with no issues and chime in when I can to help, but I'm not a dev and there are far more technologically gifted individuals operating in this forum which is why I sought help here... Not that I got much from you. But I'm more than capable of reading release notes and making sure I can revert backwards before installing anything.
Now to anyone still here, and with the same issue, it appears that carrying out the update to Nougat, re-adding my WiFi networks and clearing system cache solved the problem or at least for the first night. Should this change I'll update here.

ISO_Metric said:
IV had agresive dose mode on and haven't had any wifi problems but I am on 4.0.1 so might want to just update it as it's really stable and I haven't had any issue except having to reconfigure the APN settings. PS if you do update reset you phone after as some people have said it helps with the new file system.
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Hi Iso, thank you for your response, I hadn't seen this until now.
The upgrade to 4.0.1 does appear to have done the trick somewhat as it stayed on overnight without issue. I did notice it wasn't on a little later this morning but I am giving the device the benefit of the doubt on that one as I have been messing about with certain things and it's possible I or a profile in tasker switched it off.
As an aside do you recommend any other potential fixes, just to be on the safe side.

Did you factory reset after upgrading? Other than that it's probably a app you have I hear Facebook is really bad at battery

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Did you factory reset after upgrading? Other than that it's probably a app you have I hear Facebook is really bad at battery
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I didn't factory reset, only Cache wipe after the upgrade, and as it seems ok so far, I am reluctant to factory reset the device as it took so long to set up in the first instance.
Should it start becoming an issue again I'll try it but for now...
Also I know there are backup options though I haven't found one that works flawlessly which gives me the confidence to explore this avenue just yet.

You might have to because in nuogat they optimized the file system and in order to get the new one you have to factory reset not 100% sure it affects battery life but it really affects performance, PS also try turning off gestures, ambient display and pocket mode

ISO_Metric said:
You might have to because in nuogat they optimized the file system and in order to get the new one you have to factory reset not 100% sure it affects battery life but it really affects performance, PS also try turning off gestures, ambient display and pocket mode
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Are you sure ISO? The UI has been updated and the already snappy OS feels snappier. Is there a way to tell for sure if it's required?
If so, any good recommendations for backup capability. I have used Helium to mixed results and I can't use Titanium as I have no root (and don't wish to).

Maybe not but it all elts fails

Question System Lag - Slow Transition Animations

I've had soem performance issues from day one with this phone. It is the ATT version. I'm having issues with transition animations, either hanging or really slow and choppy. This does happen all lthe time though. After the update for March the phone ran really good , even though the battery seems to not last as long. Now in the last few days, couple of weeks after the update, I'm back to slow transistions. I've already factory reset the phone once since it's initial set up about a month ago. From the Samsung Members app it seems other people are having this issue. Has anyone worked with Samsung about this issue? Thanks

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I've had soem performance issues from day one with this phone. It is the ATT version. I'm having issues with transition animations, either hanging or really slow and choppy. This does happen all lthe time though. After the update for March the phone ran really good , even though the battery seems to not last as long. Now in the last few days, couple of weeks after the update, I'm back to slow transistions. I've already factory reset the phone once since it's initial set up about a month ago. From the Samsung Members app it seems other people are having this issue. Has anyone worked with Samsung about this issue? Thanks
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Do you have all of the Developer option animations, set to 0 and have "Reduce Animations" turned on under Settings/visibility enhancements?

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Do you have all of the Developer option animations, set to 0 and have "Reduce Animations" turned on under Settings/visibility enhancements?
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I don't enjoy having animations turned off. Takes away from the experience. I shouldn't have to do that to make this phone work.

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I don't enjoy having animations turned off. Takes away from the experience. I shouldn't have to do that to make this phone work.
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I understand, to each their own. I turn all of that stuff off which speeds up the device I cannot stand any sort of transition animations.

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I understand, to each their own. I turn all of that stuff off which speeds up the device I cannot stand any sort of transition animations.
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I'm just disappointed that a smartphone should do this new out of the box, especially these days. Top of the line smartphone shouldn't be doing this.

Do you mind adding a short screen recording to show us what the lag/choppiness looks like, how severe it is, and exactly where it happens? Without that information, we won't be able to give you too many potential solutions.
*Edit* - Granted, what @BigMosley had said works great! But if you still want the animations, just do the first step that he listed but change all of the animation timings to "0.5," which'll make em' twice as fast! That's what I've always used even though I feel that it is also nice without any animations. No animations might make my phone use during my work day more efficient . Oh, and to clear that up, I'm a tech guy and so I often use my phone for work shtuff (rd, administrative sites, status checks of different crappolas, etc).

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Do you mind adding a short screen recording to show us what the lag/choppiness looks like, how severe it is, and exactly where it happens? Without that information, we won't be able to give you too many potential solutions.
*Edit* - Granted, what @BigMosley had said works great! But if you still want the animations, just do the first step that he listed but change all of the animation timings to "0.5," which'll make em' twice as fast! That's what I've always used even though I feel that it is also nice without any animations. No animations might make my phone use during my work day more efficient . Oh, and to clear that up, I'm a tech guy and so I often use my phone for work shtuff (rd, administrative sites, status checks of different crappolas, etc).
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BigMosley said:
I understand, to each their own. I turn all of that stuff off which speeds up the device I cannot stand any sort of transition animations.
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I agree with this 100%. Animations were created 10 years ago to hide jank in Android - which doesn't exist anymore. especially phones that are this fast nowadays. Animations do nothing but slow the device down and increase battery consumption. It looks so clean, snappy and cutting edge when you take off animations completely.

I'm trying to get video of the lag. The phone will start lagging, I'll start the screen recording, by then it stops lagging.
new development. still having intermittent lagging issues. transition animations turned down to .5x. the new thing happened tonight. on my way home for work I was charging my phone. I stopped at a gas station to pick up a couple of things. I left my phone in the car connected to the charger. my cigarette lighter has no power when the car is off. when I turned the car back on my phone started screaming at me to unplug it because it has detected moisture in the charging port! This phone has not had any water spilled on it, dropped in water ect. I haven't opened a support ticket yet. but after the continuing system lag, no this charging error. I just have a lemon for a phone. so disappointing.

gadget069 said:
I'm trying to get video of the lag. The phone will start lagging, I'll start the screen recording, by then it stops lagging.
new development. still having intermittent lagging issues. transition animations turned down to .5x. the new thing happened tonight. on my way home for work I was charging my phone. I stopped at a gas station to pick up a couple of things. I left my phone in the car connected to the charger. my cigarette lighter has no power when the car is off. when I turned the car back on my phone started screaming at me to unplug it because it has detected moisture in the charging port! This phone has not had any water spilled on it, dropped in water ect. I haven't opened a support ticket yet. but after the continuing system lag, no this charging error. I just have a lemon for a phone. so disappointing.
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It may be a 3rd party app(s) causing issues including AT&T and Samsung bloatware.
Did you do any firmware updates?
If you did any major ones, it's factory reset time.
Otherwise start by clearing the system cache and doing a hard reset.
If it's running warm with poor battery life something is sucking cpu cycles like a digital vampire. Not uncommon on AT&T variants... but fixable.

gadget069 said:
I'm trying to get video of the lag. The phone will start lagging, I'll start the screen recording, by then it stops lagging.
new development. still having intermittent lagging issues. transition animations turned down to .5x. the new thing happened tonight. on my way home for work I was charging my phone. I stopped at a gas station to pick up a couple of things. I left my phone in the car connected to the charger. my cigarette lighter has no power when the car is off. when I turned the car back on my phone started screaming at me to unplug it because it has detected moisture in the charging port! This phone has not had any water spilled on it, dropped in water ect. I haven't opened a support ticket yet. but after the continuing system lag, no this charging error. I just have a lemon for a phone. so disappointing.
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W O W ! ! !
my lord, i have been experiencing the same exact phone lag (s21 ultra ATT) all starting about one week ago after a recent firmware OTA download. It has been driving me mental. The entire feel of the phone is noticebly slow. Sometimes stalling even just on a simple Google Search.
So much so I am now doing a factory reset along w/a stock firmware flash to see if I can roll things back to normal.
If anyone else notes the same issues and or fixes, please do share.
(firmware on now G988USQU2AUB5 - LAGGING)
I know Google updated their app a few days ago and my phone went balistic. They issued an immediate patch with fixed the crashes but speed still suffers.

mrbogusbaxter said:
W O W ! ! !
my lord, i have been experiencing the same exact phone lag (s21 ultra ATT) all starting about one week ago after a recent firmware OTA download. It has been driving me mental. The entire feel of the phone is noticebly slow. Sometimes stalling even just on a simple Google Search.
So much so I am now doing a factory reset along w/a stock firmware flash to see if I can roll things back to normal.
If anyone else notes the same issues and or fixes, please do share.
(firmware on now G988USQU2AUB5 - LAGGING)
I know Google updated their app a few days ago and my phone went balistic. They issued an immediate patch with fixed the crashes but speed still suffers.
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Doing firmware updates as soon as they're released is asking for trouble. At least wait a couple weeks to see if they are causing issues especially if your phone is running well.
Google system apk/app updates have a long history of screwing things up but at least you can easily roll them back to factory load versions.
My AT&T Note 10+ is still running on Pie and many of the Google and some of the Samsung apps are still the factory load versions. It runs fast and very stable. No forced reloads due to malware, ever.

If it is a carrier app that is causing this choppiness, then that would make a lot of sense. Since I have the factory unlocked version of the phone, mine didn't come with any carrier apps (and I also removed most of the built-in Samsung bloatware apps). Perhaps this is why I don't have this problem.

blackhawk said:
It may be a 3rd party app(s) causing issues including AT&T and Samsung bloatware.
Did you do any firmware updates?
If you did any major ones, it's factory reset time.
Otherwise start by clearing the system cache and doing a hard reset.
If it's running warm with poor battery life something is sucking cpu cycles like a digital vampire. Not uncommon on AT&T variants... but fixable.
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I've already factory reset the phone once, about 2 weeks after getting the phone because of the issues. It's been pretty much lagging since I've received the phone. The phone to it's usual update when I got the phone, took a large update this month, 450mb. Is hate to factory reset the phone again to try and fix this. The phone is not running hot or bad battery life.

How are you going to do a firmware flash? Sammobile did not have the att firmware on thier website

gadget069 said:
How are you going to do a firmware flash? Sammobile did not have the att firmware on thier website
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You can take it to a Samsung Experience Center at Best Buys stateside. They can do more in depth diagnostics and can reflash it as well.
Let AT&T know of your fun... they are actively -partnered- with Samsung and are involved in all aspects of the phone's software/firmware.
No joke.

blackhawk said:
You can take it to a Samsung Experience Center at Best Buys stateside. They can do more in depth diagnostics and can reflash it as well.
Let AT&T know of your fun... they are actively -partnered- with Samsung and are involved in all aspects of the phone's software/firmware.
No joke.
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I might trust BB to re-flash the phone. Half the time I speak with anyone I seem to know more than they do, that scares me. I'd be more comfortable flashing it myself.

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I might trust BB to re-flash the phone. Half the time I speak with anyone I seem to know more than they do, that scares me. I'd be more comfortable flashing it myself.
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Try contacting AT&T advanced tech support. They are better than Samsung tech support* which is worthless.
*a US Samsung rep may do better, SK reps being the worst

blackhawk said:
Try contacting AT&T advanced tech support. They are better than Samsung tech support* which is worthless.
*a US Samsung rep may do better, SK reps being the worst
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How do I get a hold of them lol.

gadget069 said:
How do I get a hold of them lol.
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Ask for them. Go luck with the AI

Is samsung ruining our devices intentionally?

i have a display issue with my note 8 (N950f), the screen gets greenish and messes up the colors making it very unpleasant to look at (started happening right after september 2020 update) i could fix it by pressing the power button, taping the screen to turn on always on display but then it would switch back to that annoying green display after seconds or minutes (weirdly enough the Always On Display is always good and never shows any green), so i tried to fix it by : Factory reseting, clearing cache, flashing stock os, custom roms pie, 10, 11, nothing worked until i tried flashing a custom kernel (Phantom Kernel for Pie) on a stock os. that fixes the green screen issue temporarily (2 to 3 weeks) i mean it's still there but it gets green very rarely, until it starts to gradually get worse overtime. And also im not the only one! i found another user @B3anbeanbean who has the EXACT problem and he fixes it like i do with the phantom kernel. This can't be a coincidence.

If you have a fast, stable platform that fulfills its mission, leave it be.
My 10+ is still running very well on Pie and will be for the life of the device.
If Samsung doesn't break it, Gookill Android surely will. What applies to MS XPx64, W7 applies more so now with Android.
For all those "upgrades" what did you gain?
Rather than enjoying the device how much time did you lose? Which bring me back to my original statement.
Play games and don't let the game play you.

blackhawk said:
If you have a fast, stable platform that fulfills its mission, leave it be.
My 10+ is still running very well on Pie and will be for the life of the device.
If Samsung doesn't break it, Gookill Android surely will. What applies to MS XPx64, W7 applies more so now with Android.
For all those "upgrades" what did you gain?
Rather than enjoying the device how much time did you lose? Which bring me back to my original statement.
Play games and don't let the game play you.
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mate, i would've never touched the phone, i love pie and i dont mind using it, the problem occurred on itself on stock os i hadn't touched anything. i did those "upgrades" in hopes of fixing the display.

omae_wa said:
mate, i would've never touched the phone, i love pie and i dont mind using it, the problem occurred on itself on stock os i hadn't touched anything. i did those "upgrades" in hopes of fixing the display.
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If it running right when first purchased it's likely hardware if a factory reset wouldn't resolve it.
When you start changing firmware rather than find the root cause you throw more variables into the mix. Making it more difficult.

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If it running right when first purchased it's likely hardware if a factory reset wouldn't resolve it.
When you start changing firmware rather than find the root cause you throw more variables into the mix. Making it more difficult.
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if it's an hardware problem then why would flashing a different KERNEL fix it? there's no way this can be an hardware issue. please read what i said and dont throw useless opinions if you can't explain them or fix them.

omae_wa said:
if it's an hardware problem then why would flashing a different KERNEL fix it? there's no way this can be an hardware issue. please read what i said and dont throw useless opinions if you can't explain them or fix them.
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Ever wonder what happens when one or a couple dozen of the billions of transistors in the processor fails?
Firmware doesn't just of a sudden fail, hardware does.
Firmware can get corrupted. Did you ever reflash the original stock firmware version back onto it?
You know verify the firmware load was intact?
You probably lost some digital pathways and/or memory cells in the CPU or another chipset.
The current firmware for whatever reason(s) doesn't use them.
Major carriers like AT&T, Verizon etc are partnered with Samsung and actively dictate what software and firmware goes in those phones to Samsung.
What could go wrong?

I personally never update, rooted and up... well (actually downdates) turned off for all its days.
although to answer the question directly, in my opinion yes spammy ruins stuff for more sales (aka rips off it's customers) then inturn they eventually never want to see a spammed cell again. so realistically they loose money, not a smart choice obviously, but when blinded by greed all kinds stuff will happen.