So I installed Cognition 2.1, and everything seems pretty awesome. However, every time I open Google Talk, it closes. It doesn't prompt me to FC, but it pops up briefly and disappears. Task managers say that it's running, but I can't receive any messages nor can I open the program.
I tried restoring the app and the data in TiBa but no luck. Same results. Any thoughts?
This happened to me when I restored the accounts using Titanium Backup.
Someone else said to restore everything again with Titanium to fix it, but I don't know myself if that worked. I wound up re-flashing to stock and then when I restored with Titanium I just didn't restore the accounts.
When you say "Accounts," do you mean just the one called "Accounts" with the Titanium Backup logo next to it? Or are there other things you're referring to as well?
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When you say "Accounts," do you mean just the one called "Accounts" with the Titanium Backup logo next to it? Or are there other things you're referring to as well?
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That's what I'm talking about, yeah. I don't know with 100% certainty if it'll work but it seems like that was the culprit because my Market wouldn't download anything either. When I did the same exact process again I manually added my gmail account before I did Titanium restores and I stayed away from the Accounts item in there.
Try restoring everything again, in Titanium, all system data. Someone here said it works to do that. Maybe it will? Only other option at this point is to reflash to stock and update it again. (as far as I know, I tried quite a few things and nothing else worked. I didn't try restoring everything again with Titanium though)
Yeah I have the exact same problem: market downloads won't work either. I wonder what causes that?
I just clicked restore all data on Titanium Backup (didn't feel like reinstalling every single app again), and it worked! Also restored all my homescreen data: didn't realize that got backed up.
Thanks for the help!
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So I installed Cognition 2.1, and everything seems pretty awesome. However, every time I open Google Talk, it closes. It doesn't prompt me to FC, but it pops up briefly and disappears. Task managers say that it's running, but I can't receive any messages nor can I open the program.
I tried restoring the app and the data in TiBa but no luck. Same results. Any thoughts?
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You restored system data back to an app... thats a big no no
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I have a Samsung Captivate. I recently flashed to Cognition 2.2 Beta 5 via Odin.
With Titanium Backup I was able to restore ALMOST everything, including most of the apps and account settings, which makes restoring almost painless
However, I can't restore TEXT messages. When I restore either:
[SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage
[SMS/MMS PREFS] Messaging 2.2
I get the following error every 5 seconds or so making the phone virtually useless- Sorry!
The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
Force close
The only way I found to recover from this error is to use AnReboot (or manually reboot into recovery) and delete all user data. It took me a while to track down exactly what was crashing the phone, as I was randomly restoring stuff
One time I was able to catch a glimpse of the texts before it would repeatedly crash, so, I know that they are intact
I suppose my question is if there is any way to port the messages over, or should I just install an older ROM use another tool to backup the texts and then re-flash...Heck, I should just do that.
dirtyballoonot said:
I have a Samsung Captivate. I recently flashed to Cognition 2.2 Beta 5 via Odin.
With Titanium Backup I was able to restore ALMOST everything, including most of the apps and account settings, which makes restoring almost painless
However, I can't restore TEXT messages. When I restore either:
[SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage
[SMS/MMS PREFS] Messaging 2.2
I get the following error every 5 seconds or so making the phone virtually useless- Sorry!
The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
Force close
The only way I found to recover from this error is to use AnReboot (or manually reboot into recovery) and delete all user data. It took me a while to track down exactly what was crashing the phone, as I was randomly restoring stuff
One time I was able to catch a glimpse of the texts before it would repeatedly crash, so, I know that they are intact
I suppose my question is if there is any way to port the messages over, or should I just install an older ROM use another tool to backup the texts and then re-flash...Heck, I should just do that.
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its because you are restoring system files from 2.1.....i would recommend using something like SMS backup+ to backup all your SMS messages....it sends them to your gmail so you never have to worry about it. no mms support, but its in the works
No MMS support definately is unfortunate.
This is Not q and a , this is android dev.
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No MMS support definately is unfortunate.
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As pointed out this is not Q and A and should have been posted in Captivate Q&A or Captivate General or Captivate Themes and Apps..
First off though while I wish everything worked together perfectly this isn't a perfect world. Secondly your complaining that an app doesn't work properly with an unofficial OS release that is called beta even by its creator and that was released 6 days ago! You downloaded a bleeding edge release, be prepared to get cut every now and then.
Cognition rocks as a whole but you need to have realistic expectations for the software developers. They may not test their app with every hacked rom out there, they may be unwilling to possibly brick a device just to see if things work right and they may be wholly unwilling to support 3rd party roms.
I know this may be a silly question, but did you do a reboot after you restored with Titanium? I know my SMS and MMS did not show up again until after the reboot. May also affect many of your other app data.
I had this problem too. first, backup your SMS messages with SMS Backup & Restore. then, archive your MMS Messages with Save MMS (it will move all your MMS pictures to the sdcard folder) AFAIK there is no program out there that will restore MMS messages to 2.2 from 2.1. you can restore the SMS messages w/ SMS backup & restore just fine going from 2.1 to 2.2
mine would flat out hardlock the phone when i restored my SMS/MMS w/ TiBU, or with my backup pro
I had MMS issues when I was running beta 4, all I did was one Odin click back to 2.1 and install beta 5.5 with clockwork recovery and It worked fine after.
- DG + Froyo + Captivate = The best threesome ever!
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This is Not q and a , this is android dev.
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Apologies, this was obviously my first post. I wasn't sure whether this was developmental due to the app, or a phone issue...Please move if necessary.
rahlquist said:
As pointed out this is not Q and A and should have been posted in Captivate Q&A or Captivate General or Captivate Themes and Apps..
First off though while I wish everything worked together perfectly this isn't a perfect world. Secondly your complaining that an app doesn't work properly with an unofficial OS release that is called beta even by its creator and that was released 6 days ago! You downloaded a bleeding edge release, be prepared to get cut every now and then.
Cognition rocks as a whole but you need to have realistic expectations for the software developers. They may not test their app with every hacked rom out there, they may be unwilling to possibly brick a device just to see if things work right and they may be wholly unwilling to support 3rd party roms.
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I wasn't complaining at all. I was simply asking if there was a way to port the texts over.
I simply said it was "unfortunate", as it would have been nice to have my MMS/SMS work as everything else does.
I do agree that the Cognition release is pretty awesome. Not sure why the mail was changed, and a couple other features, but, all in all, 100% better than stock 2.1
I realize it's bleeding edge. I wasn't "expecting" anything, but, when MOST things worked and this didn't I was simply trying to figure out a solution.
GR8Danes-I did reboot. In fact, nothing really restores until after a reboot, and after the reboot is the exact moment it "breaks".
Sicwan-to be clear you can restore SMS, but, not MMS? by archive you basically mean save the attachments I assume. With the SMS, does it at least maintain the threads?
cheetah-I wasn't aware that you could use clockwork with 2.2 beta 5. I thought that involved kernal swapping, or the like. Could you provide a link, or a few more details? This is really the only caveat I've found.
Ooops...Double post
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Sicwan-to be clear you can restore SMS, but, not MMS? by archive you basically mean save the attachments I assume. With the SMS, does it at least maintain the threads?
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I had the same problem you had, where I restored data from 2.1update1, and it caused a phone crash. I now use SMS Backup & Restore, it backs up and restores every text message, and maintains the threads as well. The only issue I have had with it is that it puts all the MMS messages I've received as the first messages. But on that note, I've also found that it does back up MMS, at least for me...
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I had the same problem you had, where I restored data from 2.1update1, and it caused a phone crash. I now use SMS Backup & Restore, it backs up and restores every text message, and maintains the threads as well. The only issue I have had with it is that it puts all the MMS messages I've received as the first messages. But on that note, I've also found that it does back up MMS, at least for me...
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Maybe I'll give that a try. The TXT's are really the only thing that has me stuck. I have a clockwork backup of my 2.1 image that has tons on it, I have new one's since I've been testing these ROM's.
OK, well, maybe not JUST the texts, but, trying to stay on topic here.
I find myself in an odd spot though. I would like to get all my texts consolidated though so that I can make images of both the old OS, and the new OS, however, I know that if I use clockwork to backup everything as is, it will likely "break" when going backwards.
I'd like to try BETA 6 as well, but, there's even more hesitation as I actually dig car mode (although the music button doesn't work), like moxier, and a few other things that were removed. (Now I've digressed)
Do NOT restore system data with Titanium Backup!!
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Do NOT restore system data with Titanium Backup!!
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OK, that was subtle. Would you happen to have a constructive alternative to restore app settings, MMS/SMS and the like? If TiBu can't restore system data, it's virtually useless.
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OK, that was subtle. Would you happen to have a constructive alternative to restore app settings, MMS/SMS and the like?
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app settings can be restored by using the batch method on TiBu entitled restore MISSING apps and data NOT apps and system data!
anything in your batch restore that says 2.1 DO NOT restore
USE a different APP for backing up/restoring SMS messages
[BOOKMARKS] Browser 2.2
Accounts
Bluetooth Pairings
Wi-Fi Access Points
[USER DICT]com.android.providers.userdictionary 2.2
[CONTACTS/CALL] Contacts Storage 2.2
[VOICEMAIL] Dialer 2.2
Well, I've successfully restored all of this with no issue (except I don't really believe that my dictionary restored, it just didn't break)
If there was a different APP to restore my SMS/MMS without limitations I'm open for suggestions, why they would choose to make those system files to begin with is beyond my comprehension...
i never restore ANY system data....it only takes a few minutes to change those settings for system apps anyway.
as long as i dont restore ANY system data, i dont get any FC's
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OK, that was subtle. Would you happen to have a constructive alternative to restore app settings, MMS/SMS and the like? If TiBu can't restore system data, it's virtually useless.
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set everything up manually. Save your MMS pics to your sdcard. If you have something important in your SMS, forward it to your email...
My comment is not useless, you got an error, posted on here about, and I tell you not to do it because it doesn't work... This is where you should realize something, "HEY, THIS DOESN'T WORK, maybe I should find another way to do it". Seems you didn't get that far, so I have given you an alt route.
If you need a one-click solution for everything and refuse to think outside of the box, you shouldn't be using android. <3 my iPhone4 and iTunes, click backup, click restore, all done. (btw, iPhone4 is my primary phone.)
Hi all,
So flashing ROMs is now natural to me, I was a long time on 2.1 with lag-fix and this was enough for me, but now leaked ROMs became very good (as it sounds form people around) and I gave it a try:
I copied all my contacts to gmail account instead of phone memory
I'm backing up my text messages and then can restore them
What's left is applications with their settings and more important their market entries this is something I'm asking you about - I'm doing backup with Titanium, then when i restore i need to press "install" and "done" buttons on each and every app and in the end i see that there was no market entries for any of those applications, so they won't get updated.
Ok then, I thought, maybe AppBrain will help me, while it's on my working ROM it's cool - I can sync my apps, see updates etc. but when i switch to nude from apps rom and then sync the AppBrain syncs and removes all the apps i had there so also nothing here...
Maybe I'm just doing something wrong - I would very appreciate to know how you do all this stuff right!
Thanks!
dimab said:
Hi all,
So flashing ROMs is now natural to me, I was a long time on 2.1 with lag-fix and this was enough for me, but now leaked ROMs became very good (as it sounds form people around) and I gave it a try:
I copied all my contacts to gmail account instead of phone memory
I'm backing up my text messages and then can restore them
What's left is applications with their settings and more important their market entries this is something I'm asking you about - I'm doing backup with Titanium, then when i restore i need to press "install" and "done" buttons on each and every app and in the end i see that there was no market entries for any of those applications, so they won't get updated.
Ok then, I thought, maybe AppBrain will help me, while it's on my working ROM it's cool - I can sync my apps, see updates etc. but when i switch to nude from apps rom and then sync the AppBrain syncs and removes all the apps i had there so also nothing here...
Maybe I'm just doing something wrong - I would very appreciate to know how you do all this stuff right!
Thanks!
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Titanium backup backs up your app+data. When you're restoring them, did you press app+data instead of just app?
I don't know why that would happen since I always get my market entries back.
koreancanuck said:
Titanium backup backs up your app+data. When you're restoring them, did you press app+data instead of just app?
I don't know why that would happen since I always get my market entries back.
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I guess that I actually did used app+data option, or at least all the programs did remembered my settings (doesn't that means that i restored also the data?)
also is there a way to restore apps without pressing "install" and "done" on every one of them?
Thanks in advance
dimab said:
I guess that I actually did used app+data option, or at least all the programs did remembered my settings (doesn't that means that i restored also the data?)
also is there a way to restore apps without pressing "install" and "done" on every one of them?
Thanks in advance
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You have to buy the pro version for that feature. I HIGHLY recommend it. It is so useful and saves you so much time. And the dev is extremely helpful and supportive of his app.
Try restoring their data and see if that works. If not, try re-downloading them and back the files up again.
koreancanuck said:
You have to buy the pro version for that feature. I HIGHLY recommend it. It is so useful and saves you so much time. And the dev is extremely helpful and supportive of his app.
Try restoring their data and see if that works. If not, try re-downloading them and back the files up again.
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Do what koreancanuck's suggesting - try to reinstall all apps + data and keep your fingers crossed. I also have the pro version of TiBu - agreeing to install every single app after a new ROM installation is the last thing I want to do.
If you still can't get your apps working after installing apps + data then you'll just have to go through the Market to download them again. At least you can still see which apps you already had via TiBu. I feel like sometimes it's better to start over when you've just installed a fresh ROM, rather than restore from TiBu, because then you can really see which apps you want and which ones were just wasting space.
I have flashed a few times before trying Andromeda 2.0. I was really impressed with the reviews I've seen for Andromeda so I wanted to try it out.
I flashed back to stock using ODIN. I then backed up my apps and user data via Titanium. I flashed to Andromeda and had no problems at all initially. I went to restore all my apps and user data and then rebooted the phone. Immediately I started having a flood of Force Closes. I reflashed the ROM and tried restoring only my apps... seemed to work fine, Then I restored my user data one at a time and everything was OK till I got to my contacts, then rebooted and started getting Force Closes. It seemed to me that it was Swype that was Force Closing constantly.
I reflashed the ROM again and haven't restored anything and I'm fine now. I had Phoenix Rising 3.5 on the phone before I went to Andromeda, is there anything known that Andromeda might not like as a setting or user data coming from Phoenix Rising and if so is there a way around this whilst keeping my user data and settings?
I really am impressed with this ROM and would choose it as a day to day ROM if I was able to get all my settings back. For now I'm going back to Phoenix Rising but if anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate it. Also, if the Andromeda devs see this I'd be happy to help with any experimenting or debugging to try and help them improve the ROM further.
Thanks!
your problem is that you restored ALL APPS AND USER DATA
go into Tibu, menu, batch, and RESTORE MISSING APPS AND DATA
Pirateghost said:
your problem is that you restored ALL APPS AND USER DATA
go into Tibu, menu, batch, and RESTORE MISSING APPS AND DATA
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Thanks, I'm trying that now...
Edit: So I did that and I've got my apps back but none of my user data (contacts, call history etc) came back...
Ok. I've been plugging away at this all day... I'm not sure what's going wrong. If I do "Restore Missing" I get all my apps for sure, but I get none of my settings such as contacts, wireless access points etc. If I restore contacts I start to get force closes and yet I am unable to open my contacts... Any ideas?
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is there some reason you dont use google to sync your contacts so you dont have to worry about stuff like that?
i have an exchange account and a gmail, i never lose my contacts, and i dont have to restore them, just log in.
as far as using TiBu to restore those items, if they are green in the backup/restore section, they should be ok to restore data only...
Yeah google syncs my contacts but not all my phone contacts for some reason... It's odd that I couldn't get that to work. Andromeda is such am impressive ROM, but I had to switch back to Phoenix if I wanted to see my contacts... I'll give it a shot with another revision perhaps... Thanks for trying to help out.
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did you by chance find any fix for this? i am having the same issue.. did the restore missing apps + data and then went in and loaded my backup of contacts and sms and the other ones that were in green and after reboot, constantly getting the swype fc.. and i cant go into my contacts.. did you just have to re do the flash and reload the backup again? and just sync with google and not have your contacts?
Ultimately that's what I would have had to do but since I'm on call this weekend and need my work contacts that didn't sync through google I had to revert to Phoenix 4.0 for the time being. I read over on android central's forum there might be a solution but I haven't had a chance to get clarification and try it yet.
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thats kewl Earendil.. i would love to hear if you end up finding a fix for this.. ill keep searching as well just in case. .but synced mine for now.. think its just missing a few. .but wife has the ones i am missing in her phone (least hope she didnt delete ;P ) will continue to test and worste case, i like cog more and go back to it and i have it saved for that
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I did a TB on my contacts in my phone, and a few other things like sms messages etc. When I updated to the 4.5.3 cognition from 4.3.1 it says it restores the app, but when I go to it...it did nothing. No restoration of any data. What gives?
Also im getting used to all this flashing and stuff, but the modem thing is new to me. Since the search feature isnt working I wanted to ask a question. My phone usually has about 3 bars and I used to get excellent internet speeds. NOW all I get max is 552 kbit/sec. Its so slow its irritating. Will flashing the modem help?
my baseband version is I897uckb1
kernal version 2.6.32.9 overstock
Build Cognition 4.5.3
So you used TiBu to restore and nothing showed up? Did you try to restart. I've noticed when you restore the green items in Restore system/user apps, (the only things you should restore from that selection, using restore user apps is just fine), you need to restart the phone to have things like txt messages show up.
Those things are considered system data and should not be restored from TiBu when switching ROMs. Only app data from apps you installed are considered safe to restore with TiBu.
When I do a restore between roms I have found that sometimes I need to reinstall TIBU from the market and then run the recovery.
A couple times the TIBU that came with the rom didnt work. Reinstalling TIBU has given me consistent results anyways.
Miami_Son said:
Those things are considered system data and should not be restored from TiBu when switching ROMs. Only app data from apps you installed are considered safe to restore with TiBu.
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THat super sucks. Why give the option to back it up, when it wont back up?
I sure lost a lot of phone numbers =/
If its just apps then I really dont need it. Cause I know the main apps I use.
accordztech said:
THat super sucks. Why give the option to back it up, when it wont back up?
I sure lost a lot of phone numbers =/
If its just apps then I really dont need it. Cause I know the main apps I use.
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I've had a lot of success using Google contacts in backing up all my numbers/addresses, ect. You just sign into your reflashed phone, sync, done. Importing contacts any other way never really worked consistently for me.
Allockse said:
I've had a lot of success using Google contacts in backing up all my numbers/addresses, ect. You just sign into your reflashed phone, sync, done. Importing contacts any other way never really worked consistently for me.
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My friend was telling me about that. He tried it on my phone and it never gave the option to sync the numbers. Its sync with the email but not the numbers.
oh well.
accordztech said:
I did a TB on my contacts in my phone, and a few other things like sms messages etc. When I updated to the 4.5.3 cognition from 4.3.1 it says it restores the app, but when I go to it...it did nothing. No restoration of any data. What gives?
Also im getting used to all this flashing and stuff, but the modem thing is new to me. Since the search feature isnt working I wanted to ask a question. My phone usually has about 3 bars and I used to get excellent internet speeds. NOW all I get max is 552 kbit/sec. Its so slow its irritating. Will flashing the modem help?
my baseband version is I897uckb1
kernal version 2.6.32.9 overstock
Build Cognition 4.5.3
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A simple solution to you problem.would be to install GOSMS PRO and use the SMS backup feature in setting then after you wipe and flash something else you can just restore from the app also the modem depends on where you live but try JF6
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accordztech said:
My friend was telling me about that. He tried it on my phone and it never gave the option to sync the numbers. Its sync with the email but not the numbers.
oh well.
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Your problems are simple first of all the contacts aren't syncing to Google is because they are stored on the phone or SIM CARD
What you gotta do is two things first of all go into the contacts app and hit the menu button them tap import/export. Export them to your sd card then hit the more button in thee contacts app then go to settings after your in there click save always to google then copy the exported contacts file off your sd card onto your computer them import them to google website
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accordztech said:
THat super sucks. Why give the option to back it up, when it wont back up?
I sure lost a lot of phone numbers =/
If its just apps then I really dont need it. Cause I know the main apps I use.
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Backing up apps with TiBu is very helpful. Especially with apps that save data, Like Angry Birds. Would you want to lose all your game progress? Without a TiBu backup you would get any paid apps back from the Market, but not any data they created while using them. Some system data can be restored from TiBu, like Contacts and BT pairings info, but only if your on the same ROM base. For instance, when I upgraded from Andromed 1.2 to 3.0 I was able to restore almost all the green system items without issue. When I switched from Cognition to Andromeda and did that the Contacts and dialer apps would force close because they are different and that system data corrupted the apps.
Use titanium for user apps/data only.
SMS Backup & Restore is your friend for sms
And for contacts, always save them to google.
Ok so after months of trying to figure out how to get facebook and twitter for lg off of this phone, I figured it out. My revo is rooted and I have cwm with the decrapped rom from thecubed. The actual apk file is called sns.apk (short for social networking service). I backed it up, then froze the app using titanium backup. Voila! No more facebook or twitter for lg. I don't know if anyone else has figured this out, but I thought I would share
SWEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most Excellent find. This should go in the list of useful apps to freeze. Great!!
Any non-rooted solutions??
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Ok so after months of trying to figure out how to get facebook and twitter for lg off of this phone, I figured it out. My revo is rooted and I have cwm with the decrapped rom from thecubed. The actual apk file is called sns.apk (short for social networking service). I backed it up, then froze the app using titanium backup. Voila! No more facebook or twitter for lg. I don't know if anyone else has figured this out, but I thought I would share
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I really doubt it, but is there a way to remove or freeze apps if your phone isn't rooted? Also, can't you just uninstall the apps instead freezing them? Or does that cause a problem somehow?
Thanks! I was wondering what SNS was...frozen now!
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djembeman said:
I really doubt it, but is there a way to remove or freeze apps if your phone isn't rooted? Also, can't you just uninstall the apps instead freezing them? Or does that cause a problem somehow?
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You can uninstall them.. but freezing to me is better.. if we do get the gingerbread update and you are still pretty stock with some frozen apps, you can un freeze and then do the update and you should be fine.. much easier than uninstalling the app and then having to reinstall them.
I noticed after reflashing decrapped 1.1 the facebook for lg icon came back and it also showed up as an option for sharing a pic. I looked in titanium backup and it said it was still frozen, when I hit unfreeze it said apk file not found, so I hit uninstall. That was successful, then I flashed mtmichaelsons revolt rom and since he hasnt gotten bluetooth working on it I reflashed again back to decrap 1.1. The icons came back and I went to tibu again. I hit restore and it said it was successful, but then the icons disappeared. I don't really care if this program is deleted permanently from the phone, but I am wondering why it keeps popping up like that and why it's acting like that in tibu. Not a major issue for me, just odd