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[SOLVED] Reading for hours, can't find solution - can't install HardSPL

I'm trying to root my G1, and despite the fact that every guide in existence gives different steps, I've managed to confirm I HAVE root now but I need to load the HardSPL so I can load roms to the phone... right.
Except when I do HOME+POWER I get the red/green/blue/white boot loader screen and it says Serial0. I don't get the recovery image. Camera button is not stuck, it works fine.
Anybody know why it won't let me to the recovery screen?
EDIT:
Solution: Turns out recovery image itself was corrupt. Downloaded cyanogen's recovery 1.4 and all was well again.

I'm surprised that after reading for hours you didn't post this in Q&A...
Plug in phone.
Do the power home thing.
Press the back key.
Smack forehead with phone repeatedly.

TheDudeOfLife said:
I'm surprised that after reading for hours you didn't post this in Q&A...
Plug in phone.
Do the power home thing.
Press the back key.
Smack forehead with phone repeatedly.
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Lol after reading this I couldn't stop laughing

Oh COME ON!!!
Talk about rude - you take the time to reply but you don't contribute... wtf.
I have been at this for FOUR HOURS!!!!!!!!!! I have searched every thread I can find for a solution, I haven't been spending hours looking at exactly how I should avoid offending someone! I gotta say, I never got this kind of rudeness in the Vogue forum, maybe switching to an android device has put me in with a new 'class' of users?
Now as far as the problem - the problem is that HOME+POWER does NOT bring up the recovery screen - THAT is the problem! It brings up the boot loader screen instead.

what step r u on ur using this right http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480

Sounds to me like the recovery image was not installed in telnet, without it you would not be able to get into recovery cause there is not one to get into, read your steps on rooting and if if you have to redownload a recovery image, that is what happened to me on my second phone that I rooted

gridlock32404 said:
Sounds to me like the recovery image was not installed in telnet, without it you would not be able to get into recovery cause there is not one to get into, read your steps on rooting and if if you have to redownload a recovery image, that is what happened to me on my second phone that I rooted
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This is what I'm beginng to think, that the downloaded recovery image has errors or something. I think I'll try redownloading it.

Most likely is, it happens every once in awhile and yes you will get some people on this forum that are quite rude and make fun of you without helping, a lot will also sit there and play mod, but you have to just bare with it. There are a lot of great people that will help you out and all the devs do a really great job so the android platform was a great choice in my opinion

well unfortunately, I downloaded the recovery image again, put the sdcard back in the PC, copied it over again, ran through the root process on the device again.... and still can't get the recovery ROM...
did not expect this much of a problem, I had no issues unlocking my Touch VOGUE (similar process) and I run through going to recovery ROM all day long with people at my job, when all the n00bs forget their gmail passwords.

Solved!
After downloading recovery.img 3 times from the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480, I finally gave up and downloaded cm-recovery-1.4.img instead, renamed it recovery.img, and now I can access the recovery rom.
yay!
kudos to those that helped out! If you ever get me on the line at t-mobile pda tech support just say "xda developers" and I'll make sure to do my best to help out a bud!

That's great to hear buddy, seems like just a bad image, you will really like the g1 a lot now that it is rooted

lotherius said:
Oh COME ON!!!
Talk about rude - you take the time to reply but you don't contribute... wtf.
I have been at this for FOUR HOURS!!!!!!!!!! I have searched every thread I can find for a solution, I haven't been spending hours looking at exactly how I should avoid offending someone! I gotta say, I never got this kind of rudeness in the Vogue forum, maybe switching to an android device has put me in with a new 'class' of users?
Now as far as the problem - the problem is that HOME+POWER does NOT bring up the recovery screen - THAT is the problem! It brings up the boot loader screen instead.
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TheDudeOfLife has contributed more to this forum and to making your device run like it does more than you ever will. He is one of the main developers here and has a large following using his ROM, it would be hard for him to contribute more than he already has.
Also, he did give you advice, he advised you to try hitting the back button to see if it would do anything, and if as suspected that it did help, he was only pointing out how dumb you would feel if that was all it took.
Just saying... anyways, congrats on fixing your phone. Next time post in the correct forum (I think its been moved anyways), and could you add [SOLVED] to the title of your thread so other might find it easier if they have the same problem.

Well it was resolved which is the main thing, was just a bad image before flashing which can happen.
TheDudeOfLife has contributed a fair bit to Android as well which his ROMs and whatnot and pressing Back does enable FASTBOOT at that stage.
No main harm done eh? ^_^ As h.nocturna suggested, if you could add a "[SOLVED]" tag to the thread title that would be great.

And you should feel privilaged that the dude came here and tried to help.

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And you should feel privilaged that the dude came here and tried to help.
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Are you serious? He got mocked by the guy and he should feel privileged because the guy is a ROM developer?!
h.nocturna said:
TheDudeOfLife has contributed more to this forum and to making your device run like it does more than you ever will. He is one of the main developers here and has a large following using his ROM, it would be hard for him to contribute more than he already has.
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Again, the original poster wasn't bashing 'the dude', just stating the obvious fact that mocking people and not contributing makes him look like an ass.
I know this post was very off topic, I was just so shocked that people bow down to ROM developers like they can do no wrong.

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Are you serious? He got mocked by the guy and he should feel privileged because the guy is a ROM developer?!
Again, the original poster wasn't bashing 'the dude', just stating the obvious fact that mocking people and not contributing makes him look like an ass.
I know this post was very off topic, I was just so shocked that people bow down to ROM developers like they can do no wrong.
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I was pointing out that he said that the Dude didn't contribute when indeed he gave him instructions on how to solve his problem (contribution #1) and he also contributes by developing ROMs that help everyone (contribution #2). So next time, read what I said and why I said it instead of just taking the quote out of context. And I don't think he was mocking, again, read why I don't think he was.

Wow, when did everyone become such sensitive nannies?
To be honest I thought I was answering his question with a joke and the answer. I didn't read (reading is fundemental) it and realize his recovery was bad. Glad you guys were able to work this out.

TheDudeOfLife said:
Wow, when did everyone become such sensitive nannies?
To be honest I thought I was answering his question with a joke and the answer. I didn't read (reading is fundemental) it and realize his recovery was bad. Glad you guys were able to work this out.
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I do appreciate any and all help. I apologize for my own rash reactions. hours of fighting with something that should have been straightforward can do that to you! No idea why the image was bad twice, but once I switched to the other recovery image it was all good. I will add [SOLVED] to the title as suggested.

TheDudeOfLife said:
Wow, when did everyone become such sensitive nannies?
To be honest I thought I was answering his question with a joke and the answer. I didn't read (reading is fundemental) it and realize his recovery was bad. Glad you guys were able to work this out.
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Thank God. I was beginning to think that I misjudged what you wrote and you didn't mean it as a joke. ~sigh~ reading comprehension ftw!

Haykuro - can you fix BT in Hero?

Steve,
I know you have been focusing on other more important things recently, but we've had this big problem for a while here I was hoping you'd help address. Can you get bluetooth working on your latest Hero build? There were rumors you got it with the last version, though it has been so long, you've weighed in elsewhere (including the Rogers root), and the "dev challenge" with the big pot went unanswered so I figure you haven't actually done it. That said I feel like if anyone here could do it then it would be you. Shafty made some great progress, but it remains elusive. Anyway, I just wanted to ask.
Vette

I don't want to be bothersome, but this really should be in a different section or in a PM.

Not only that but you know when he comes back one person is gonna say one thing wrong and he is going to run off again. I agree he is a good Dev but you know what the Dev's we have has pushed everyone and rather have it how it is now then how it used to be with all the crying going on here. I know this will rub people the wrong way but some one needs to say it. IMO

imbonez9 said:
Not only that but you know when he comes back one person is gonna say one thing wrong and he is going to run off again. I agree he is a good Dev but you know what the Dev's we have has pushed everyone and rather have it how it is now then how it used to be with all the crying going on here. I know this will rub people the wrong way but some one needs to say it. IMO
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I'm fairly sure haykuro said that he was going to post his ROM's at another forum site.
See here:
http://twitter.com/haykuro/status/3178123420

How do I downgrade to 2.1?

I have the cognition beta5 installed right now and I would like to go back to 2.1 becouse my market downloads are slow very slow and my battery drains too. Is there a super noob way to down grade and if u could please tell me exactly step by step thx
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You got cognition on your phone, so you must have visited the developer forum...
Have you even tried to find the answer on your own? I know you are asking for help, but didn't you look up "how to restore to stock" before you started? What if there is no way - like on some other phones? Why would you do a major mod, without looking up how to go back before you even started?
Try the first post in the developer section - the stickied one - the captivate bible.

Look for odin one click to down grade. I believe there is a thread dedicated to it. I've noticed some off things in the market but nothing worth downgrading for.
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Alphadog I know it can be downgraded but I could not find the post that says how it can be done thats why I asked
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I must agree with what Alphadog said. You did not even bother to search. If you did there's absolutely no reason why this thread would be here. It's on the first page of the Android Development Section of these forums. You can't fricking miss it. But because you did, here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989

alphadog00 said:
You got cognition on your phone, so you must have visited the developer forum...
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Stewart, shut up and stop flaming before you get banned. Just some friendly advice. You might just want to edit out that last post of yours.
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stewart must be a tard
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miztaken1312 said:
Stewart, shut up and stop flaming before you get banned. Just some friendly advice. You might just want to edit out that last post of yours.
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You can't be banned from a site like this, if so you just open up another user name and email....come on guys you must be new, but just for you i will delete it, i just hate when a new person gets on here and is treated like dirt. The guy asked a simple question...just answer "yes or no" thats it no need for the "extra advise" especially if you can't be nice about it. Besides how do you know the guy never bothered to search...thats an assumption on your part and when you assume you just...well you know. Don't assume just answer the question without being a jerk about it. A smart comment can be hidden behind what was suppose to be "friendly advise" and it's plain to see that this alpha dog was being smart assuming that the guy had not done his homework before making changes to his phone. At the end of the day...this release was not a good release, as we can see a lot of members on this site are having problems with their phones now. This is phone hacking using an leaked aka stolen version of froyo 2.2 that was patched together. We all took a chance and downloaded it at our own risk and now some members are paying for it because that's what happens when you accept stolen merchandise sometimes there are consequenses. Once you download this version of froyo the android market does not recognize the new version of the firmware and so a lot of apps are no longer available for you on the market unless you uninstall it put your phone back to eclair 2.1 and then try to access the market to find you missing apps. Now there is an Official version of froyo that is going to be released and anyone who downloaded the leaked aka stolen version will not and i repeat will not get the ota update from att this has been stated because the att server no longer recognizes your phones firmware version. Once again you will have to use your USB cable and pray that the "iffy" samsung keis application will see your phones stolen firmware and allow you to update to the leagle version of froyo 2.2 that should be a lot more stable then the the leaked...aka stolen version that everyone fell for.

These things are always "install at your own risk". If you screw it up, be prepared to figure out how to fix it. What Alphadog was trying to get at, is that if you just search, heck you don't even need to do that as all the answers are on the first page of the Dev subforum, you can figure out how to do it. He's also right in saying people need to do their homework before they mod their phone. You NEED a plan. You need to know how to be able to start anew should something get borked or you need to return it or something else.
It is irritating lately that these forums have been getting filled with really nooby questions like how to assign a picture to a contact. If everyone would spend some time using the phone or using google or searching the forums, the answer would be blatantly obvious. I think for the most part we're all just fed up with these questions, but instead of "being smart assed" about it and flaming, we just need to ignore the thread and let someone else deal with it.

miztaken1312 said:
These things are always "install at your own risk". If you screw it up, be prepared to figure out how to fix it. What Alphadog was trying to get at, is that if you just search, heck you don't even need to do that as all the answers are on the first page of the Dev subforum, you can figure out how to do it. He's also right in saying people need to do their homework before they mod their phone. You NEED a plan. You need to know how to be able to start anew should something get borked or you need to return it or something else.
It is irritating lately that these forums have been getting filled with really nooby questions like how to assign a picture to a contact. If everyone would spend some time using the phone or using google or searching the forums, the answer would be blatantly obvious. I think for the most part we're all just fed up with these questions, but instead of "being smart assed" about it and flaming, we just need to ignore the thread and let someone else deal with it.
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That is true...or people who tend to be arogant in their thinking and looking down on folks who are not able to figure it out should use another forum. Thats all im trying to say. Heck what is the forum here for if not to help people. Check this out...I work in the mortgage forclosure industry..thats what i do im the guy that will put your home on the auction block if you can't pay for it for any reason. Poeple call me all the time all day long because they didn't read through their loan note before settlement or they were not informed during the settlement process as to what would happen if they didn't pay their mortgage. I don't get rude with them, i try to assist them because i have knowlege that could help them, imformation that they don't have. I don't want to see them get put out so i try to assist them by pointing them in the right direction over and over again no matter how often they call asking the same question.
My point? This is unchartered territory for some people, some of them don't even know how to use a forum...i wasn't born knowing how to write blog or use a forum. I had to ask questions sometimes over and over again. I had to research as well. But come on man these are 200.00 phones and for some folks thats a lot of money. If they mess up their phone ATT won't help them at all. Not to mention, unless you can get that samsung kies working on your computer your "might" be stuck with the stolen version of froyo 2.2 which as you can see is very very glitchy for some people.
Yes the sight says to mod at your own risk...but how can you dangle candy in someone face like that and expect them not to take the risk. Besides can you imagine what this country would be like if we had informed shoppers who did their homework before the shopped...this economy would be worse off then what it is, because people would think before they shopped or played around with their 200.00 smart phone taking a risk on damaging it for good.

stewart2568 said:
That is true...or people who tend to be arogant in their thinking and looking down on folks who are not able to figure it out should use another forum. Thats all im trying to say. Heck what is the forum here for if not to help people. Check this out...I work in the mortgage forclosure industry..thats what i do im the guy that will put your home on the auction block if you can't pay for it for any reason. Poeple call me all the time all day long because they didn't read through their loan note before settlement or they were not informed during the settlement process as to what would happen if they didn't pay their mortgage. I don't get rude with them, i try to assist them because i have knowlege that could help them, imformation that they don't have. I don't want to see them get put out so i try to assist them by pointing them in the right direction over and over again no matter how often they call asking the same question.
My point? This is unchartered territory for some people, some of them don't even know how to use a forum...i wasn't born knowing how to write blog or use a forum. I had to ask questions sometimes over and over again. I had to research as well. But come on man these are 200.00 phones and for some folks thats a lot of money. If they mess up their phone ATT won't help them at all. Not to mention, unless you can get that samsung kies working on your computer your "might" be stuck with the stolen version of froyo 2.2 which as you can see is very very glitchy for some people.
Yes the sight says to mod at your own risk...but how can you dangle candy in someone face like that and expect them not to take the risk. Besides can you imagine what this country would be like if we had informed shoppers who did their homework before the shopped...this economy would be worse off then what it is, because people would think before they shopped or played around with their 200.00 smart phone taking a risk on damaging it for good.
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If you want to spoon feed the entire world, that is your choice.
But defending people for their lack of judgment and research makes you look equally ignorant.
The point, at the beginning of this thread, is that if people just bothered TO TRY, they would find answers. Or just read the first post of a mod thread. I would think the words "this could brick your phone" would mean something. But no, most people are so used to bailouts and handouts that they don't stop to learn. I pointed the OP in the right direction - the information is there if he/she looked.
Oh, and if we had informed shoppers - we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have now. People blame the banks, but it is idiot consumers that buy more then they can afford, get zero down loans, balloon loans, and hope their house goes up in value so they can refinance later.
The idea that more informed shoppers would make the economy worse is comical.

alphadog00 said:
If you want to spoon feed the entire world, that is your choice.
But defending people for their lack of judgment and research makes you look equally ignorant.
The point, at the beginning of this thread, is that if people just bothered TO TRY, they would find answers. Or just read the first post of a mod thread. I would think the words "this could brick your phone" would mean something. But no, most people are so used to bailouts and handouts that they don't stop to learn. I pointed the OP in the right direction - the information is there if he/she looked.
Oh, and if we had informed shoppers - we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have now. People blame the banks, but it is idiot consumers that buy more then they can afford, get zero down loans, balloon loans, and hope their house goes up in value so they can refinance later.
The idea that more informed shoppers would make the economy worse is comical.
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Wow. So the OP didn't read enough before jumping. I was guilty of the sane thing. The forum takes some time to get used to. Not certain it warrants your rant. You clicked on the thread, why just so you can yell at someone?
OP look for Odin in development. If you are on beta 5 it is the only way to go back. I hope you have a PC and not a Mac
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Venting

Ive been a member here for a long time and while ive held my breath for years ive finally had to get some things off my chest. For one thing I have been a member of multiple communities and multiple forums for many, many years and I understand that while every community is a vast network of people as well as projects, I can say here is the one place without a shadow of a doubt that I almost never post simply because i know one of two things will always happen. One I will either be ignored or two someone will tell me to use the search bar. I understand that there are quite literally thousands upon thousands of pages of things so when either myself or someone who has just started here goes to search and even advanced search there are still thousands upon thousands of choices. If we are a community built on helping each other, why are we not really doing so? Im not asking for you to do the work for me, Im not asking to directly link the post, im not asking for the work to be done for us. What Im asking is why dont we give others a helping hand by you know, giving them a "path"? Saying to them "Search for the words so and so and soforth and soon". Im curious what others think on this subject.

I would say that I think this thread already exists and this should have been posted there.
Please search next time.

StormMcCloud said:
Please search next time.
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This isnt meant as a joke

Weapondrift said:
This isnt meant as a joke
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You do realize that I also provided a link to the proper thread right?
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Weapondrift said:
Ive been a member here for a long time and while ive held my breath for years ive finally had to get some things off my chest. For one thing I have been a member of multiple communities and multiple forums for many, many years and I understand that while every community is a vast network of people as well as projects, I can say here is the one place without a shadow of a doubt that I almost never post simply because i know one of two things will always happen. One I will either be ignored or two someone will tell me to use the search bar. I understand that there are quite literally thousands upon thousands of pages of things so when either myself or someone who has just started here goes to search and even advanced search there are still thousands upon thousands of choices. If we are a community built on helping each other, why are we not really doing so? Im not asking for you to do the work for me, Im not asking to directly link the post, im not asking for the work to be done for us. What Im asking is why dont we give others a helping hand by you know, giving them a "path"? Saying to them "Search for the words so and so and soforth and soon". Im curious what others think on this subject.
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Weapondrift said:
This isnt meant as a joke
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Maybe not, but it comes across as one. You say "If we are a community built on helping each other ..." - that is the problem. XDA is originally a site for Developers - not for noobs to join up and start demanding immediate answers, people to do the work for them, Devs to include everything the noob wants in their ROM, getting pissy when they don't receive an answer in an hour, swearing when they are told to search (not because we are too lazy or arrogant to help, but because searching means they will read, learn and understand WHY and WHAT - so they are far less likely to then screw their phone up totally and start blaming XDA for making that happen).
Does that answer your questions?

It also gets frustrating seeing the same exact thread opened again and again because someone refuses to click the search button. You will notice that if someone states that they made an effort to search prior to opening a thread they will more than likely get flamed less and get an actual link to the thread they are looking for.

StormMcCloud said:
It also gets frustrating seeing the same exact thread opened again and again because someone refuses to click the search button. You will notice that if someone states that they made an effort to search prior to opening a thread they will more than likely get flamed less and get an actual link to the thread they are looking for.
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You'd also notice the people who point out they searched are more likely to post in the wrong place
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SimonTS said:
Maybe not, but it comes across as one. You say "If we are a community built on helping each other ..." - that is the problem. XDA is originally a site for Developers - not for noobs to join up and start demanding immediate answers, people to do the work for them, Devs to include everything the noob wants in their ROM, getting pissy when they don't receive an answer in an hour, swearing when they are told to search (not because we are too lazy or arrogant to help, but because searching means they will read, learn and understand WHY and WHAT - so they are far less likely to then screw their phone up totally and start blaming XDA for making that happen).
Does that answer your questions?
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I realize that, however this is a public forum and we were all new at one time struggling to find out more about our phones. I am not adding for immediate answer I'm saying why can't we say "hey, go look for this" instead it just makes things easier and more friendly. I can't tell you how many times ive actually used the search button and ended up with 7000 threads and this is using advanced. Some people don't have time to read everything in those threads.
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StormMcCloud said:
It also gets frustrating seeing the same exact thread opened again and again because someone refuses to click the search button. You will notice that if someone states that they made an effort to search prior to opening a thread they will more than likely get flamed less and get an actual link to the thread they are looking for.
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Now I wholeheartedly agree with this and I know I'm just as guilty. I agree an effort is needed but also we are supposed to be the ones offering
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As pointed out above, there is an existing thread where people can rant about things (within reason & the rules).
Thread closed.

Obtaining Root

Searched for two days before asking this so if I missed this-my apologies in advance. Is there or is there not a working root tool/utility if I currently have 4.3 on the device (I was sent a new one and it was updated already)-and what/where is it? Please point me in the right direction and I really, really appreciate the help here.

How bout u post in correct section but first why dont u use something called google not sure if u know how but do this.
1. Type in address bar www.google.com
2. Search in google bar how to root sprint htc one running 4.3
3. Press the enter button.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244060

Appreciate the help here.
-TheEdge- said:
How bout u post in correct section but first why dont u use something called google not sure if u know how but do this.
1. Type in address bar www.google.com
2. Search in google bar how to root sprint htc one running 4.3
3. Press the enter button.
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Thank you-sincerely.
EmSeeMAC said:
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New guys being ugly to older guys. Now I've seen everything. He does have a point, though. I did that and had three links in three seconds. :angel:
This kind of thing goes under Q&A.....

BMP7777 said:
New guys being ugly to older guys. Now I've seen everything. He does have a point, though. I did that and had three links in three seconds. :angel:
This kind of thing goes under Q&A.....
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Sorry....wasnt trying to be harsh but i hardly ask questions anymore. Googles has mostly everything there already. ?
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BMP7777 said:
New guys being ugly to older guys. Now I've seen everything. He does have a point, though. I did that and had three links in three seconds. :angel:
This kind of thing goes under Q&A.....
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Some context since I have a moment: I Used some type of tool/program to root this thing when I got launch day. I finally broke it on a business trip in Japan last week and I have honestly fell off the forums completely since my son was born about the same time as I originally rooted this thing. That, combined with a partnership I have taken on in business- has essentially taken all free time away and, when my replacement arrived yesterday, I felt completely inept and without any reference point in my head to work from. Sad, I really miss having the time to mess around with my gadgets and I've learned so much here, but I'm really hoping to find some balance soon enough. So on lunch, after a day and a half of searching, I gave up and indeed made a very clumsy post, absent of any real thought-clearly showing some frustration. I Still have no idea where this all in one that I know I used to root this originally went and I certainly posted in the wrong section-no excuse for that- the gentleman has every right to react how he sees fit although after 7 years here I never found any productivity come out of commenting in that manor-so I choose to conduct myself differently from the outset. Appreciate the time and help.
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ipclark1 said:
Some context since I have a moment: I Used some type of tool/program to root this thing when I got launch day. I finally broke it on a business trip in Japan last week and I have honestly fell off the forums completely since my son was born about the same time as I originally rooted this thing. That, combined with a partnership I have taken on in business- has essentially taken all free time away and, when my replacement arrived yesterday, I felt completely inept and without any reference point in my head to work from. Sad, I really miss having the time to mess around with my gadgets and I've learned so much here, but I'm really hoping to find some balance soon enough. So on lunch, after a day and a half of searching, I gave up and indeed made a very clumsy post, absent of any real thought-clearly showing some frustration. I Still have no idea where this all in one that I know I used to root this originally went and I certainly posted in the wrong section-no excuse for that- the gentleman has every right to react how he sees fit although after 7 years here I never found any productivity come out of commenting in that manor-so I choose to conduct myself differently from the outset. Appreciate the time and help.
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I hear you; five kids, a full time job, and full time school and I try to build ROMs for this device. I understand where your coming from. Not the end of the world. But, as I have said in my threads before, if you make a really silly request, I reserve the right to mess with you about it. That's just me. But, I do it in playfulness, not actual meanness. Be cool, and if you need any help with anything, look me up.

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I hear you; five kids, a full time job, and full time school and I try to build ROMs for this device. I understand where your coming from. Not the end of the world. But, as I have said in my threads before, if you make a really silly request, I reserve the right to mess with you about it. That's just me. But, I do it in playfulness, not actual meanness. Be cool, and if you need any help with anything, look me up.
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No doubt you have that right and I'm all for bustin chops as well-to a point of course and yours was constructive. But some of the rage that I regularly see come out in comments here really bewilders me-I mean a paragraph about what a blanking idiot someone is or details about what they can go do to themselves- all because they are having trouble with something or even made a thoughtless post (like I did) -makes me want to say- "dude what happened in your day/life to react that strongly over something so insignificant?". Who knows. Anyway, I really appreciate you reaching out and relating to my situation a bit- especially since you clearly have a very busy life yourself-to say the least.