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I just noticed that Brando has released screen protectors(Ultra Clear & anti glare) for the T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000/HTC Advantage/HTC Athena.
Bought both of them($17 for the UltraClear and $15 for the Anti-Glare). they will be here in a week or so. I will post my findings after that.
Just ordered three anti-glare protectors from them. Can't wait to get them.
Also consider Martin Field Overlay Screen Protector if you want more choose, personally i prefer them than the Brando. But no doubt they are both very high standard.
wu5262 said:
Also consider Martin Field Overlay Screen Protector if you want more choose, personally i prefer them than the Brando. But no doubt they are both very high standard.
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Thanks! I'll check it out. Also might order the full body protection cfor my x7500.
Well, I bought the Martin Fields one. Couldn't really align it well as it's provided literally as a protector, nothing else, and I wasn't happy that despite wearing latex gloves, vacuuming the room, cleaning the screen etc... I got a speck of dust in it.
Oh well, removeable/washable, right? So I can remove it and get rid of the dust?
Don't know where they get distilled water from the tap, but it's not the UK. The protector is covered in smeary crap.
Unimpressed for the money. It's not like I haven't fitted screen protectors before. VERY frustrated about not being able to get a nice screen protector on my Ameo without bubbles/trapped dirt/throwing away $17.
I'll be including my experiences with the Martin Fields protector in my review of the Ameo in our magazine, I'm that (un)impressed with it. Normally I get review samples of this stuff, too - I'm especially annoyed by having bought it and basically being left with a bit of waste material.
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Well, I bought the Martin Fields one. Couldn't really align it well as it's provided literally as a protector, nothing else, and I wasn't happy that despite wearing latex gloves, vacuuming the room, cleaning the screen etc... I got a speck of dust in it.
Oh well, removeable/washable, right? So I can remove it and get rid of the dust?
Don't know where they get distilled water from the tap, but it's not the UK. The protector is covered in smeary crap.
Unimpressed for the money. It's not like I haven't fitted screen protectors before. VERY frustrated about not being able to get a nice screen protector on my Ameo without bubbles/trapped dirt/throwing away $17.
I'll be including my experiences with the Martin Fields protector in my review of the Ameo in our magazine, I'm that (un)impressed with it. Normally I get review samples of this stuff, too - I'm especially annoyed by having bought it and basically being left with a bit of waste material.
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I also had significant problems with an MF screen protector. My experiences are in this thread: Screen Protectors. I ended up buying two screen protectors from ebay that IMHO are about as good as you will get, for £3.99 each (I seem to recall). I got this one on first time, only one bubble (now gone) and no trapped dust.
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Well, I bought the Martin Fields one. Couldn't really align it well as it's provided literally as a protector, nothing else, and I wasn't happy that despite wearing latex gloves, vacuuming the room, cleaning the screen etc... I got a speck of dust in it.
Oh well, removeable/washable, right? So I can remove it and get rid of the dust?
Don't know where they get distilled water from the tap, but it's not the UK. The protector is covered in smeary crap.
Unimpressed for the money. It's not like I haven't fitted screen protectors before. VERY frustrated about not being able to get a nice screen protector on my Ameo without bubbles/trapped dirt/throwing away $17.
I'll be including my experiences with the Martin Fields protector in my review of the Ameo in our magazine, I'm that (un)impressed with it. Normally I get review samples of this stuff, too - I'm especially annoyed by having bought it and basically being left with a bit of waste material.
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you haven't fit the wrong side of the protector on have you? you are suppose to throw the side with the sticker away, and this is the same with any other protector, it takes times to get it perfect, but once you got it, there is 0% dust, 0% bubble, screen looks even better then before, and screen visible under sun as well.
I think you must have done something wrong, lots of people had done complete reviews on screen protector, Martin Field is one of the TOP one, so people already knows how good it is, and for people who had fit it correctly on their device, they know the fact as well. Putting your bad experience in the review won't really help, you are better off finding why it doesn't fit well, what have you done wrong, because it's not normal for you to get a bad fit on this screen protector.
No, I didn't fit the reverse of the screen protector. My name is not Corky, and in fact, I do drive a car, like all the regular kids.
I fitted it fine the first time aside from alignment. It's extremely difficult to align correctly due to the sunken nature of the Ameo screen, and it had slipped under the frame of the unit. However, this should not be an issue, because it's supposed to be removable and washable.
Which it simply isn't. I've attempted several instructions - wash under warm water, wash with light soap and rinse well... and the same problem, each time - it's impossible (unless you have clean-room conditions) to dry it afterwards.
So; yes - nice screen protector. Insufficient "support" for fitting it (nothing to help align or remove it, the WriteShield AG etc. from Pocket PC Techs for my iPaq came with wipes, little tools for removal which also help with alignment), and VERY expensive, and the claims of being reusable are highly suspect, IMO.
Because of the expense, I won't be replacing it, even if it is the best protector - I'll try another brand.
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No, I didn't fit the reverse of the screen protector. My name is not Corky, and in fact, I do drive a car, like all the regular kids.
I fitted it fine the first time aside from alignment. It's extremely difficult to align correctly due to the sunken nature of the Ameo screen, and it had slipped under the frame of the unit. However, this should not be an issue, because it's supposed to be removable and washable.
Which it simply isn't. I've attempted several instructions - wash under warm water, wash with light soap and rinse well... and the same problem, each time - it's impossible (unless you have clean-room conditions) to dry it afterwards.
So; yes - nice screen protector. Insufficient "support" for fitting it (nothing to help align or remove it, the WriteShield AG etc. from Pocket PC Techs for my iPaq came with wipes, little tools for removal which also help with alignment), and VERY expensive, and the claims of being reusable are highly suspect, IMO.
Because of the expense, I won't be replacing it, even if it is the best protector - I'll try another brand.
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I guess most of the Martin Field User here didn't actually wash their screen protector, my Room is not particular clean, i have cat inside too, but i still manage to get it on perfect in one go, i think washing the screen protector is a very bad idea. And maybe it's just me, but i have try other screen protector, and I can get perfect fit on all of them, no dust, no bubble at all. There is surely some skills to this.
I applied mine while holding my 6 month baby girl and only got one bubble which went away by itself. My woman decided to let me hold her right when my new screen protector arrived and I didn't want to wait. Yes, i'm THAT impatient.
Been on my Advantage ever since and protecting it wonderfully. Only thing I don't like is the slight reflection on the non-reflective protector. I guess you're bound to have some reflecting going on as it's plastic, etc.
They think I might have had a faulty one, and are sending a replacement. So this is good - explains why I had trouble fitting it (though I still think I just got it under the edge of the screen or something), and at least I don't need to wash it.
They recommend the approaches I took to drying it, too, so I guess we just have very contaminated water here.
Update: New Martin Fields protector arrived today. Followed the same procedure to fit as before with one change: I made a sort of handle of tape to lower it onto the screen with, thus being ABSOLUTELY sure it wasn't going to slide or catch on the frame.
Perfect result. Couple of microscopic dust specks (inevitable, I guess I must live in a dusty house despite cleaning constantly, it seems!) but no bubbles, misaligned edges or anything. I'm 80% sure that the original was faulty, but not 100% sure.
Proporta Screen Protector
I have had a good result with the Proporta screen protectors, much better than with the Martin Field screen protector which in my opinion was too thick and reduced the touchscreen sensitivity too much. They cost £5 each, and when I placed my order I was encouraged to pass on a 10% discount voucher code, so I am doing so: PASSITON10.
A pressurised air duster and latex finger cots meant no dust bubbles, and the screen looks great with no reflection.
Just thought I'd ad my two pennies worth!
I've been using Brando's screen protectors for years now. Helped him get right sizes for the old A920/A925 models. Then had two for my A1000's (plus a case too that was very good), and got one for my XDA Exec...
They apply flawlessly, are easy to remove, and you really can wash then too. My A925 one (yes I STILL have that brick in the drawer!) will still come off and go back on again after 3 years!
I'm gonna order one for my Ameo too - i like the non-reflective i must admit as not only does it stop reflections but it also makes the surface of the screen seem more 'silky' when using the stylus.
Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.
i know how you feel! i bought them when i got my hd2 and i got the top two-thirds of the protector on perfect but then the bottom third somehow got dust underneath, it really not that bad when the screen is on but its still annoying. cant wait to get my invisibleshield on it tho!
order this, the maximum protection from zagg....
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
I used invisishield on my ipod. Great stuff, but hard to get on perfect. 3 parts for a curved back and front only covers the LCD part? The front part sounds so unlike them. They normally have it going round buttons and everything.
But it's like putting tint on. You need to have a liquid to make slide just right.
i used invisible shield on my iphone, and it was fully protected. It did add grip to the device which i liked. Anyways, the maximum protection shield covered more than the normal full-body shield. It'll cover not only the LCD screen but all spaces around the hardware buttons and well as the speaker.
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Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.
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I also got these same screen protectors and was dissapointed when it did not cover the entire screen.
Trick to putting on screen protectors.
1.) Make sure the screen is completely clean of all smudges etc.
2.) Use a can of air duster to remove any small dust particles that might be stuck on the phone. If you don't have that then just take a piece of tape and remove any dust particles or dirt from the screen. This is the most important part!
3.) Line up the screen protector on the screen where you want to place it.
4.) Peel back the backing of the screen protector as you lay the screen on the device. Start from the top of the device and work your way down. If need be take out a credit card or another hard piece of plastic of some sort to push out any air bubbles that may occur as you lay down the screen protector.'
5.) Enjoy a job well done.
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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My TMOUS HDC HD2 is definitely glass.
I didn't bother to use a screen protector (didn't even know there was one supplied)...it isn't necessary on a glass screen.
Its very hard to scratch glass...you would need a very sharp object, made out of a very hard material (harder than glass), applied with a lot of pressure. I've had my iPhone for 3 years, and the glass is flawless on it. The aluminum housing is scratched, dented, and dinged up, and the LCD panel has a little bit of bruising on the top left corner BEHIND the glass...but the glass itself is immaculate.
Apple actually pulled the screen protectors off the shelves from the Apple store because they felt they were unnecessary..and frankly anyone who pays for one on the HD2 or iPhone wasted their money.
You'll actually see more imperfections on the screen by applying a screen protector...they have a tendency to attract dust, bubble up, and flat out get dirty. The only maintenance you need to do on a glass screen is polish out smudges and finger prints.
The biggest peril to glass touch screens is cracks from falls....and if your HD2 suffers a big enough impact, a screen protector or 'invisible shield' won't do squat to keep it from cracking
glass or plastic..either way.. i was soooooooooooo confident i wouldnt scratch mine, until about a minute ago when i was in the process of wiping the glass(plastic) screen before putting on a screen protector, i noticed a little scratch...great. Should've put on a protector sooner...
From now on, I willl be putting on a screen protector unless the screen are made out of crystal sapphire or something..
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It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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We actually do not get an included screen protector. Only the black gel case, which imo is quite crappy... loose and flimsy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6117793#post6117793 Check out oy instillation of the Invisible shield if you are considering buying one. I bought the Maximum Protection and it covers almost everything besides for around the buttons on the bottom, volume rocker, camera, Micro USB/ 3.5 Headphone jack, and the finger nail grove on battery cover. I also would like to note that my TMOUS HD2 did not include any screen protectors in the box.
Sorry imo I have to disagree with you about the included gel being loose mine fits quite snugly and until my zagg comes in I prefer to keep it in the gel...not as slick & keeps the screen(when face down) off the flat surface.
A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!
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A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!
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I agree, I used to do this back in the day before Zagg came around. It works great.
I have read with other products people use a drop or water/soap water before applying a screen protector. Has anyone used this method on this device? i am concerned that the water will somehow ruin the device. I know it's only a drop or 2 but wanted to get some feedback first before i tried it.
Hey everyone,
I recently purchases a custom zagg skin and the invsibleSHIELD ,
The zaggskin is easy to put on the back of your HD2 , its a little bit smaller, but that makes the process of putting it on easier (It took me like 2 min?),
Before the invsibleSHIELD I tried various screen-protectors , but I always had bubbles or dust underneath them.
With the invsibleSHIELD I just followed instructions , and volla , no airbubles, no dust , its makes the screen even brighter.
One negative point about it, its pricey , i ordered mine during Memorial Day (50 percent off),
Regards,
PS: Sorry for my bad english
How can a cover make the screen brighter? Are these skins polarized or something? I'm curious.
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
invisible shield
i wont take the chance of scratching my screen even if its impossible
invisible shield is not only on the front but on the back too.
its less sensitive for oily fingerprints - maybe that is why it looks a little bit brighter than without. before i had it, it was difficult to see in sunlight and now its better.
plus, the device wont slip of your hand, again do to the back cover.
so, i recommend invisible shield sincerely
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My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
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My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
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No problems here, and the screen protector isn't that thick, its just even thick like any other screen protector ,
Munto said:
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search.
Spending $10-20 on a quality screen protector is probably the cheapest insurance you could get to protect your screen if/when you scratch the protector and the scratch becomes unbearable, spend $10-20 on a new one
Though Ive not seen one before for mobile phones, there are privacy screens for laptop/desktop monitors. These screens significantly blur the image unless you are directly in front of the screen, if you tilt the screen more than 10degrees or so the screen will blur. These are used a lot in medical/financial institutions, sensitive departments within companies like HR. Ive seen these appearing on ATMs now too
I will agree there is no protector that will make your screen "brighter" that's just about impossible, anything put over the screen is actually going to attenuate any light coming though it, though it may not be perceivable. Certain protectors may eliminate screen glare, making the screen easier to see in certain lighting conditions
ohhh yeah, believe me the screen CAN be scratched! got two very nice ones to prove it. lol
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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search. ....
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Well about the brighter , i have the the shield now for a week, the screen looks better because there are no fingerprints on the screen , further its scrolls smoother
Sorry but I'd stay clear from Zagg's Invisible Shiled as it is not really effective nor fully stand their claim "as advertised".
After 3-4 months of use (in tropical countries or desert areas), the sands/dirts snug into the linings, then started to peel off little by little.
Had this product on my Fuze and then my Topaz a while back, not very happy about it.
The only good things about the product is (1)fancy retail packaging, and (2)their screen protector. Sorry.
This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
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This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
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It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
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It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
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How many times there have to be said that this capacitive screen is not made from GLASS, there are enough people one the web which HD2 got scratched, believe they will scratch
I have the full body zagg skin. Gotta say it's great. Simple to apply and really keeps the device from getting scratched. Even protects the corner. Don't get what the complaint above was about. It covers the screen so wtf are you talking about? Only thing I wish they'd fix is that you can't apply a skin or case over it. If you do it'll get stuck to it unless it's like a cloth case or something. Hope they fix that issue one day. Still not bad, plus I did like the OP and ordered on Memorial Day for like 12 dollars.
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
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How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
thanks
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ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
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ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
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Can someone post some pics
front & back to get a idea how it looks
Thanks
Glue softens
I have to say I was happy for around 5 months - until it started to get warmer. Then the glue started to soften and smear out from under the shield. It made the screen look a bit of a mess and ultimatly the corners started to flap about because all of the glue had gone. Contacted Zagg customer support and they admitted this can happen when warm and humid. They suggested I use their replacement service but why should I pay around 6€ for postage in both directions if as soon as it gets warm it will be a mess again. Not very impressed. I'll stick to the electrostatic screen shields in the future. Can anybody recommend one?
So after going through many TGSPs and finding pretty much all of them terrible, I found a off-the-wall solution that seems to tic off all of the major check marks for me:
Smooth glass-like surface
Great touchscreen sensitivity
Great optical clarity
Won't peel off (obviously)
Turns out, it's not just one solution, but a combination of two different screen protectors used in conjunction. This might be a long post but stay with me here.
First thing I tried long ago was the wet-apply TPU stuff from IQ-Shield. It's actually a great product if you put it on properly and is fairly inexpensive. The application might be a pain for some (I didn't mind it so much). But I'd always hated the texture and tackiness of the surface. Also, it's aways a bit sharp at the edges that it bothered me to hold it. And strangely, these are easy to scratch. The scratches really show on them too. They're also smudge magnet and look terrible unless thoroughly clean.
Then I tried all of the major TGSPs on the market (GPEL, ZAGG, AmazingThing and a few cheaper stuff) and while many of them looked great, the glare and touchscreen sensitivity was always anywhere between inadequate to terrible.
Then I looked in this PET(I think?) plastic stuff from G-Color
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FTUB74S..._t1_B01FTUB74I
Turns out this stuff is pretty great. It honestly feels as smooth as glass. Looks like glass. Screen sensitivity was awesome. clarity was amazing. I can also atest to it durability as well. I'd been moving my futon around a bit and had the phone perched on the the backrest. The phone fell onto the metal frame of the futon, glassface first. the impact messed up the screen protector and it got warped at the impact site, but the phone glass was fine. Great start so I ordered another immediately.
But low and behold, after another two weeks or so of usage, the edge began to lift. Turns out the silicone adhesive, which works fine on flat glass, doesn't do so well with curved glass long term.
Disappointed, I thought about ways of giving it extra adhesion then I remembered that the TPU stuff is very tacky. So I washed and re-applied (wet) the IQ-Shield stuff. I let it set until all the air and water bubbles disappeared (about two days). Then I washed the G-Color piece (it had lint and dust stuck on it). I applied that one wet as well (yes you can apply PET protectors wet) right on top of the IQ-Shield. Gave it another few ways days to set and the bubbles disappeared. I was astonished by the results. I got all of the things I was look for above. I tried force peeling the edge off and I was very surprised how hard it was to do. I gave it three weeks and it had been flawless.
I went and bought another G-Color piece (this time in white). Of course taking the first (gold) one off you probably have to reapply the TPU one underneath. A second round of thorough washing and reapplying the IQ-Shield (I didn't have to buy a new one. As long as you wash it correctly with dish soap and are careful, you can reuse them). Once again, let it set over a couple of days.
Since it was the first time I applied the new G-Color piece, I applied it dry as instructed on package. You'd only need to apply the PET stuff wet if you're reapplying for second time after washing. The first time should be dry using the guide stickers. The results were similar (maybe a bit better since I was using a brand new G-Color piece). It's been a month and a half now. Flawless. Well almost: Since I applied the G-Color with white bezel over a black phone, its white part is not as bright-white as it could be. More like a white-grey, but unless you butt it up to another white phone, you won't notice. The gold one looks completely gold.
So now I have a phone protected by two layers. The two layers together are also a bit thinner than a single TGSP. It looks completely like glass and I've been amazed how scratched resistant it has been. They're also smudge and fingerprint resistent.
Another check mark that might matter to some, but not me: Case-friendliness. Those that have such cases, this might not work so well since this goes pretty close to the edge of the glass. It does leave about a .5mm around the edge. I personally would have liked it to go all the way to the edge but I don't know how that would effect the adhesion. None of my cases wrap around the edge of the glass so it never affected me at all.
Hope this helps someone.
Tip: When applying wet after washing with dish soap, try not to completly wash off the dish soap. A bit of dish soap remaining will help you with positioning the protector since it will allow you to slide it around a bit. Once you're in position, pressing down (especially around the home button, ear speaker and camera cut-outs) will hold it in place while you squeegy the remaining water out. I like to use my finger and roll it to push water out. Try not to slide you finger across the surface as it might catch and pull the protector out of position. Don't worry about air or water bubbles too much. They will slowly disappear over a few days.
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Thanks for those VERY complete tips, I shall follow your guidelines reapplying my TGSP!
Just curious how your solution is holding up. I just bought an S7 edge, so I'm in the market for a good screen protection solution. This sounds like a pain, but it also sounds like it may just be worth it!
TIA!
So got my shiny new Note 8 week ago. Also with that got the Whitestone Dome screen protector and alcantara case.
Tried to install screen protector:
1st. attempt: The screen lined up incorrectly from the bottom, tried to "lift it up to the position" just created more airbubles and the glue poured out from the sides.
After cleaning my Note 8 with the alcohol swipes, (It was a mess to try to clean the phone AND the glass screen protector)
2. attempt with the second bottle of glue..... There was a dust particle on the glue itself. Great.
Wait for a week to mobilefun to ship me another one. (while doing so i was "dry- practicing" to get it 100% correct this time)
3. attempt was a charm.... until.... when the glue spread there was 2 small air bubbles... Take the second bottle and "tap" the small air bubbles away. (while doing so being extremely nervous about that the screen protector might move or great new bubbles). Managed to get the bigger one out but there was the small one... Didn't get that out.
Light up the UV light and call it a day. Only problem is now there is small air bubble that is pretttty distracting to say the least.
So, now i am with 50€ in my account from the order. (Because i demanded that they refund me this horrible product). I am left to choose new screen protector.
My options that i have read:
- Rearth invisible defender - The problem with this is that there is "snowfall" effect and the screen is too damn sticky (according to reviews)
- IQ Shield - The problem with this is that the S-pen (according to reviews) leaves trails to the TPU protector. Because it's so soft and it will not cure overtime.
-Zagg invisible shield - Unresponsivnes and the fact that it has "raimbow" -effect on the screen.
New one that i just founded out about:
-Powerpeak Base- According to this guy (Install Jimmy is Promo's "Base Screen protector for Samsung GALAXY S8 & Note 8 here) Its pretty good. Might be ad though... Does any of you have experience on this?
The whitstone does have pretty good responsiveness and all that good stuff. But the problem is the installation and even when i tried to be 100% accurate with the installation, it still greated air bubbles. And the fact that there is a HUGE risk that the glue when cured can cause damage to the screen.... More specifically if you manage to cure the glue when the glue is over the earpiece... you are ****ed with your 1000€ phone.
I am doing the poor mans whitestone. LOCA glue and cheap amazon tempered glass. Took me two tries to get it right. So with two screens and glue, out $20. I did buy a UV lamp for dual use. My phone and girlfriends nails. I had the ZAGG on my S8+, didn't like it at all, unresponsive. But i bet if you glued it on with LOCA it would be good.
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I am doing the poor mans whitestone. LOCA glue and cheap amazon tempered glass. Took me two tries to get it right. So with two screens and glue, out $20. I did buy a UV lamp for dual use. My phone and girlfriends nails. I had the ZAGG on my S8+, didn't like it at all, unresponsive. But i bet if you glued it on with LOCA it would be good.
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I am sort of guy, who can easily mess things like that up... So not going to risk it.
Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector [2-Pack][Not Glass], Yootech [Case Friendly] Galaxy Note 8 Wet Applied Screen Protector BUBBLE-FREE for Samsung Galaxy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756DBXWP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_xFOJgXZGMrAdo
This one seems a little less rubbery imho.
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Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector [2-Pack][Not Glass], Yootech [Case Friendly] Galaxy Note 8 Wet Applied Screen Protector BUBBLE-FREE for Samsung Galaxy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756DBXWP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_xFOJgXZGMrAdo
This one seems a little less rubbery imho.
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I did check that thanks! Only problem is that i live in EU (Finland) And Amazon will not ship that item to me.... Looked up in Ebay and they will add 20€+ to the original price...
Bummer tho,.
Hello, this is Whitestone.
I am so sorry that you had a terrible experience with our product. Air bubbles can be very frustrating on a new screen protector. We are constantly trying to solve the problem of air bubbles, and the seesaw type has drastically reduced it but not fully eliminated it.
I am very thankful for your patience to give our product three tries before you made your decision and also for a detailed feedback on what became wrong.
Since you have given a lot of effort on our product, we will try and help you out if you are willing to give our product another chance.
Feel free to contact us through here, or our homepage, or any social media.
Again I am terribly sorry.
Base TGSP is a piece of shot
That Jimmy guy sounds like an infomercial
Only use skinomi wet i stall protectors.
Use it before on my note edge 4. The spen did leave marks.
But with the note 8. I dont see any marks. So either the protector is better or the tips are softer
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Only use skinomi wet i stall protectors.
Use it before on my note edge 4. The spen did leave marks.
But with the note 8. I dont see any marks. So either the protector is better or the tips are softer
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do you forsee it lifting up on the edges? did you get the techskin one that comes in a twopack?
I'm currently going through a batch of clear protection film HD skins on my Note 8. Generally are average, but some dont cover the edges that well or some have too much orange peel, or some are not cut correctly. Typical chinese "dog" turd.
So far. Spigen, coverage is excellent, but suffer from a lot of orange peel. Illumi Shield , coverage is rubbish, one side ( left side ) is cut shorter than the other. But less orange peel.
Amovo front and back clear film, the worst ever. The pikeys didnt even inc a lubrication spray with their aggrssive adhesive film. Secondly the film that you remove to apply was stuck like gorilla glue to the actual film. You know, the tab that say "peel here first" and " peel here last".
I dont care less for the glass crap for curved screens, but in search of a half decent clear film currently. The search continues...
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I'm currently going through a batch of clear protection film HD skins on my Note 8. Generally are average, but some dont cover the edges that well or some have too much orange peel, or some are not cut correctly. Typical chinese "dog" turd.
So far. Spigen, coverage is excellent, but suffer from a lot of orange peel. Illumi Shield , coverage is rubbish, one side ( left side ) is cut shorter than the other. But less orange peel.
Amovo front and back clear film, the worst ever. The pikeys didnt even inc a lubrication spray with their aggrssive adhesive film. Secondly the film that you remove to apply was stuck like gorilla glue to the actual film. You know, the tab that say "peel here first" and " peel here last".
I dont care less for the glass crap for curved screens, but in search of a half decent clear film currently. The search continues...
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I'm looking at IQShield and Skinomi right now but don't have enough info to decide on one or the other. Would love to hear about your experiences with other non-TGSPs and if you ever come across one you would recommend.
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I'm looking at IQShield and Skinomi right now but don't have enough info to decide on one or the other. Would love to hear about your experiences with other non-TGSPs and if you ever come across one you would recommend.
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Im primarily using and trying non glass type films, similar to the stuff used to protect car paint protection. My background includes being able to apply paint protection film on cars so these are all from the same mold that I have been trying. BTW, heat of a hairdryer will aid in adhering the curved edges once applied- slight tip.
I have not tried IQShield yet, sorry. So far the Spigen one fitted well coverage wise,but their film is very aggressive in the orange peel front,
I might try Skinomi next, but I have heard they cut their films short to save a few bucks.
Lets liase and share our experiences with these type of films, cheers.
Thanks for all of you for the help and responses.
Yes the IQshield and Skinomi are on the top of my list... They are around 20€ including shipping to Finland from Ebay. A bit expensive but lets see....
Im currently using IQshield version 2 (case friendly) for about a week now.
I've done a lot of wet install before so i know what to expect using this type of screen protector. Its been a week now and so far no lifting on the curve part of the screen. it is smooth to touch, sensitivity is normal and very good. Im using a VRSdesign slim case and it works well, all corners fitted very well.
I also used skinomi before and if i remember it right IQshield is more smoother than skinomi in-terms of orange peel feeling. The only problem that is s-pen will leave marks when used with this kind of screen protector. (i tried it at the very bottom and its still have mark after a week)
I can give this IQshield a 7.5/10 score. LOL
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The whitstone does have pretty good responsiveness and all that good stuff. But the problem is the installation and even when i tried to be 100% accurate with the installation, it still greated air bubbles. And the fact that there is a HUGE risk that the glue when cured can cause damage to the screen.... More specifically if you manage to cure the glue when the glue is over the earpiece... you are ****ed with your 1000€ phone.
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I used the tip of placing painter's tape over the speaker. I covered the speaker enough to not interfere with the glass. It worked great! I do have three small bubbles after two tries but can't see them unless I try. My wife's has one bubble in about the same spot as mine. The lower left corner about 1/3 up the screen where the curve starts. There a number of ways to avoid the creation of bubbles. I couldn't say them all because I'm not an expert in LOCA glue and it's properties. Experimentation is the only way to find out.
Whitestone Dome Glass said:
Hello, this is Whitestone.
I am so sorry that you had a terrible experience with our product. Air bubbles can be very frustrating on a new screen protector. We are constantly trying to solve the problem of air bubbles, and the seesaw type has drastically reduced it but not fully eliminated it.
I am very thankful for your patience to give our product three tries before you made your decision and also for a detailed feedback on what became wrong.
Since you have given a lot of effort on our product, we will try and help you out if you are willing to give our product another chance.
Feel free to contact us through here, or our homepage, or any social media.
Again I am terribly sorry.
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I am glad that you have started beeing more on forums and social media. I want to thank you for sending me a new one. Now i am waiting for it. Hope this time works.
To be honest, it will be difficult to actually get most tempered glass protectors to stay on this curved glass.. Its a pain and it sucks because I would actually like to get one. I just ordered the whitestore myself..., but they wont be in stock again until the 30th...
I got the PowerPeak Base and it is utter garbage. I lost atleast 30% touch sensitivity and then it just eventually slid off of my phone from me trying to swipe so hard. The middle actually dried up and there was nothing holding the middle to the phone.
I despise the wet installs. They are too soft and will leave indents as you said.. So really its either try tempered glass protectors until you find the one you want, go with indents and wet installs, or just go no screen protector like me!
I have the wet install spigen ones but I tbh would rather go with no protector than use them.
I ordered and installed this on my Note 8 : https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B074G1W2RC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Along with a Spigen Tough Armor case. It seems to work well and no real screen sensitivity issues either.
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do you forsee it lifting up on the edges? did you get the techskin one that comes in a twopack?
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I get the case friendly 2pack. And havent had problems with lifting.
Had my note 8 since sept 8 and been caseless and no lifting.
Anyone planning on using a cheap protector with LOCA glue needs to check the strength of the LOCA. Some have reported they were not able to remove the protector after using some LOCA glue.
I had 3 attempts at the Dome Glass myself. The first one I got had a broken bridge. I could not get the glue in the right spot. Whitestone refunded me. I bought the next set from Amazon. Everything was perfect until I peeled the plastic off the back of the protector. There must have been a fleck of dirt near the side. I did not see it as I did not have enough light.
I sent the second one back to Amazon and just had to pay return shipping. With the third one I took a different approach. I used a totally level counter top in the bathroom. I ran the shower with hot water for about 10 minutes so the whole bathroom was steamed up. This kept the dust down. I cleaned the phone screen and when I removed the plastic from the protector, it somehow grabbed another piece of dirt. Due to the extreme lighting, I saw it and removed it before installing. It installed perfectly with no dust/dirt or air bubbles. I did the first cure with the UV light then took it out of the jig and wiped the sides, top and bottom with an alcohol pad. I then did the final cure. Not one ounce of glue seeped out. I did not protect the speaker or anything else. If this is done perfectly, this is the absolute best protector available IMHO. The problem is anything short of a perfect install will drive many of us with OCD crazy.
On Monday we traded in my Mothers iPhone and she went with a Note 8. The Dome Glass arrived today. This time, perfect install the first time. I wish Whitestone would include 2 pieces of glass per package since this is the most expensive Note 8 protector. Their CS is a bit slow but they did take care of me in the end. It's a bit of a ripoff to sell the kit for 49 but then only sell the glass and one tube of glue for 39. The refill pack should be 15-20 at the highest.
After a week, none of my edges are lifting at all. Some may be using cases that are not compatible. My protector does not touch my case at anyplace. I think cases that touch the protector have a good chance of raising the edges. Even if the case looks fine after install, if grabbing it makes the case touch the glass, it will eventually lift and get bubbles.