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is that possible ?? will the developer here will do a port ??
now hero/magic kernel is open source........
It's already been ported
Its for the 32A magic though, the one with 288mb of RAM, same as the Hero, so there's not going to be a huge speed improvement.
Hi,
i am pending between Desire and the N1 my doubts are:
1- How about the extra ram benefits of the Desire RAM: 576 MB versus the 512 MB RAM of the Nexus?
2- i know that HTC have a very strong XDA community so i am concerned that in the future XDA Roms and hacks for N1 are more faster droped then the HTC desire because although it is known that both use the same hardware but the Desire have more RAM, radio and perhaps a a better camera ("offering a solid 30 frames per second at D1 quality. The Nexus One only has D1 recording at a minimum of 20 frames per second") and perhaps other stuff so in the future let´s say when Android 2.3 gets out one can´t put it on N1 although there is a cooked rom for Desire because there are slight hardware differences
1. Yes, the desire has more ram, some will be required for Sense UI to run well, some more might be used for running programs
2. i think developers will naturally be attracted to the nexus one over the desire because the nexus one is a developer phone, it is easily hackable, and very flexible. the sense UI is proprietary which adds an extra problems when trying to fiddle with it.
Thanks for the fast response liam.lah
I mean if the the extra ram of the Desire RAM: 576 MB versus the 512 MB RAM of the Nexus will make a significant difference?
Have you considered the fact that n1 will get instant updates when google releases a new version of android? htc will make you wait a bit before they release their updated senseui+rom. i think that would also annoy devs.
the extra ram will benefit the sense ui interface, by making it smoother, but n1 doesnt have sense ui so that 64mb ram isnt making a difference to n1's speed.
edit: the desire also looks alil uglier - in my opinion (the buttons at the bottom ruin the sleek look)
mythamp said:
edit: the desire also looks alil uglier - in my opinion (the buttons at the bottom ruin the sleek look)
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I completely agree
Don't forget that sometimes HTC seems to artificially hold back updates to help sales of new models.
Look at the Hero/Legend. Same damn phone pretty much, but HTC isn't pushing an update to 2.1 to the Hero so it doesn't cannibalize sales of the Legend, which is sitting at 2.1 with identical guts inside. Totally artificial roadblock.
Who knows if that will happen with the Desire and some future HTC model.
Also..The desire does not have North American 3G, so that would be a dealbreaker for me personally.
the RAM makes no difference in my opinion. its virtually identical.
Thanks all
i already order my Nexus One
I already seen an review where the Desire was a little slower compared to the N1 because because of the sense ui. The reviewer said that the Sense ui in the HD mini was more fluid and the mini has an 600 mghz Qualcomm CPU/GPU. I can´t remember if it´s the first time that HTC puts its ui in an Android phone i know that they do that in Winmo phones since the Kayser so maybe it´s more optimized for this OS. But the reviewer didn´t tell also who many colors each cphone was using.
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Thanks for the fast response liam.lah
I mean if the the extra ram of the Desire RAM: 576 MB versus the 512 MB RAM of the Nexus will make a significant difference?
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't HTC often include the modems RAM in its total RAM. So the ram is actually the same. It makes sense. Why would HTC add 64 mb extra RAM it's just kind of weird, they would have to add a whole new chip for just 64 mb.
I already seen an review where the Desire was a little slower compared to the N1 because because of the sense ui. The reviewer said that the Sense ui in the HD mini was more fluid and the mini has an 600 mghz Qualcomm CPU/GPU. I can´t remember if it´s the first time that HTC puts its ui in an Android phone i know that they do that in Winmo phones since the Kayser so maybe it´s more optimized for this OS. But the reviewer didn´t tell also who many colors each cphone was using.
One thing to be aware of regarding the GN1 is that it actually ***IS*** an HTC phone, which means that the updates are STILL in the hands of HTC. Direct from the horse's mouth, google again screwed up and failed to insist that HTC hand over the full source code and specifications.
Just like HTC DREAM support was dropped prematurely, GN1 will suffer the exact same fate.
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Why would HTC add 64 mb extra RAM it's just kind of weird, they would have to add a whole new chip for just 64 mb.
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It does seem odd, especially since the 512MB RAM and FLASH of the N1 are both in a single chip, I don't know if that's true for the Desire too?
I was thinking that perhaps the additional 64MB was "bundled" in some other chip on the phone(s), but only enabled on the Desire?
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edit: the desire also looks alil uglier - in my opinion (the buttons at the bottom ruin the sleek look)
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Next to the Nexus One, the Desire looks like it was designed by those Volvo engineers canned in the 80's for making their cars so ugly!
Just kidding, the Desire is still a nice looking piece of harware, but I like the lines of the Nexis One better.
And yes, the N1 is a Dev phone, dirt simple to modify and updates will be available for it faster. Rooting the Desire so far is a lot more involved. (Paul @Modaco.com) just completed the task today for SOME of them.
The upside for Desire development is that it's likely to sell 25 times better than the N1, meaning that there are going to be plenty of people (including Paul) tinkering with it.
I don't think you can go wrong with either one, but my personal preference is still the N1 over anything currently available. In time, I am sure that will change.
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One thing to be aware of regarding the GN1 is that it actually ***IS*** an HTC phone, which means that the updates are STILL in the hands of HTC. Direct from the horse's mouth, google again screwed up and failed to insist that HTC hand over the full source code and specifications.
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Unless you're the horse, I'd like to see the link to the horse's mouth.
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I already seen an review where the Desire was a little slower compared to the N1 because because of the sense ui. The reviewer said that the Sense ui in the HD mini was more fluid and the mini has an 600 mghz Qualcomm CPU/GPU. I can´t remember if it´s the first time that HTC puts its ui in an Android phone i know that they do that in Winmo phones since the Kayser so maybe it´s more optimized for this OS. But the reviewer didn´t tell also who many colors each cphone was using.
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Not the first for SenseUI in Android - only the first time in Eclair.
Only reason I am putting this is because I want devs to possibly answer this one.
HTC Desire C specifications have been outed.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_c-review-785.php
It uses a Cortex A5 core. But graphics are still Adreno 200.
Would it possibly share OMX libraries with the Nexus One's QSD8250/Adreno 200 so we can finally fix those issues we have?
Dsire V is similar.
RUU links (from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710312):
Desire C:
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/156147909...H_1.05.98.08M2_release_260338_signed.exe.html
Desire V:
http://down2.zhangku.com/htcrom2/De...34D.29_20.21.30.23U_release_264969_signed.zip
Desire V has same screen resolution. Or is it a simple ROM port? A5/A8 are supposed to be are supposed to be application compatible.
I was definitely having a look at those 2 new phones for China market!
But, take in mind that Desire C have a different, maybe downclocked I think, Adreno 200 gpu, while Desire V has Adreno 200 gpu as ours!
Désire c has different screen resolution
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xaueious said:
Only reason I am putting this is because I want devs to possibly answer this one.
HTC Desire C specifications have been outed.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_c-review-785.php
It uses a Cortex A5 core. But graphics are still Adreno 200.
Would it possibly share OMX libraries with the Nexus One's QSD8250/Adreno 200 so we can finally fix those issues we have?
Dsire V is similar.
RUU links (from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710312):
Desire C:
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/156147909...H_1.05.98.08M2_release_260338_signed.exe.html
Desire V:
http://down2.zhangku.com/htcrom2/De...34D.29_20.21.30.23U_release_264969_signed.zip
Desire V has same screen resolution. Or is it a simple ROM port? A5/A8 are supposed to be are supposed to be application compatible.
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Reading from the Desire forum, DK Zero said he is already using the new Adreno driver.
Wrong section. This is a question, not a dev thread.
hey guys
new htc desire x got announced. when it comes out. lets port sense 4.1
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/08...-inch-screen-beats-audio-ics-on-a-budget.html
I have been confused by this device. Is it a dual core low end 1ghz snapdragon s4?
And which version of sense? Being dual core have they given it the full sense 4.1 treatment or a new sense 4.1a?
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Logic would say full sense.
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Why would logic say that? That would be awesome, like the sensation XL was last year
if its full sense 4.1 I will cry from happiness
But, the device is pretty low on ram for today's standards, so that's why I assumed its a sense lite device
Also the processor is a pretty low clock speed compared with full sense devices
Hopefully I'm wrong
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I have been confused by this device. Is it a dual core low end 1ghz snapdragon s4?
And which version of sense? Being dual core have they given it the full sense 4.1 treatment or a new sense 4.1a?
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they say its the same processor as the one x just underclocked. custom kernal im guessing overclock and make it as fast as a one x or s ;o! im really hoping its sense 4.1 full. if not im sure our devs can come up with something! ahhh i need a new phone LOL
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hey guys
new htc desire x got announced. when it comes out. lets port sense 4.1
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/08...-inch-screen-beats-audio-ics-on-a-budget.html
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Interesting I just postet this 2 or 3 days ago and no f**ks were given Whatever, it'll be awesome. Full Sense and perfekt resolution. SO no resizing and better look and feel
Engadget has a hands on video of the phone, it doesn't have the fancy zoom animations that the one x/s have, sure its full sense?
have a look at the music player too, I can't remember correctly but the sense 4a music player was different iirc, this one resembles the full sense one
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/30/htc-desire-x-hands-on/
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Engadget has a hands on video of the phone, it doesn't have the fancy zoom animations that the one x/s have, sure its full sense?
have a look at the music player too, I can't remember correctly but the sense 4a music player was different iirc, this one resembles the full sense one
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/30/htc-desire-x-hands-on/
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Looks like full Sense to me. The zoom animations from Project X aren't actually in the original Sense 4, it's just a sweet change from JellyBean... Also in my music player I don't have the select player function as you see on the Desire X. Also the buttons on the top right of the player show also soundbound and I think cover upload.
EDIT: I went trough another few reviews and I guess 3D Rosie means full Sense
I think the zoom animations are sense 4, they are slightly different to the jb ones, infinity uses the stock animations and there is a difference
So does it have the 3d Rosie?
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I think the zoom animations are sense 4, they are slightly different to the jb ones, infinity uses the stock animations and there is a difference
So does it have the 3d Rosie?
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It definitely does have 3D Rosie! I saw it in a hands-on video
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It definitely does have 3D Rosie! I saw it in a hands-on video
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Yes it does! Just saw it then haha
But the homescreen transitions are slightly different, I don't know how to describe it
But they definitely remind me of the GS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGV9iYfsGr0
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Yes it does! Just saw it then haha
But the homescreen transitions are slightly different, I don't know how to describe it
But they definitely remind me of the GS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGV9iYfsGr0
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That's maybe because of Sense 4.1... As I know they reduced and changed a few animations for better smoothness and battery.
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That's maybe because of Sense 4.1... As I know they reduced and changed a few animations for better smoothness and battery.
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Looks really good actually!
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Looks really good actually!
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Yeah, that was my thought, too! Would be just awesome if we get a RUU leak very soon
sense 4.1 is nice! :victory:
Just edited the wrong cmt how dumb was that? Anyway, I just read a review and it's not entirely full Sense. It's sth between full and lite. It doesn't have the Sense recent apps (stock is better anyway) and it doesn't have the homescreen overview. But according to htc it's not the final software build so they may change sth till we get it...
Question:
Would this be a good mid ranged smartphone to buy when it comes out price 280 euro i gues.
Or are there way better ones out now with higher,better specs? Cause im gonna buy a new one from now to 2 weeks
( Googling and reading shizz on the web to make up my mind )
My old Gio lowass did its job and im ready to go Mid ranged now and with googling i came across this new phone and it looks nice but maybe people here think different?
Any help would be appreciated :victory:
This phone actually has a pretty crappy SoC. It's the S4, but more specifically it's an S4 Play MSM8225. It has a dual core CortexA5 processor, an Adreno 203 GPU and is manufactured at 45nm unlike the higher end S4's which use a 28nm process. Modern dual core SoC's are of the CortexA9 variety, (although the S4 is "based on" the CortexA15) which is significantly more powerful.
In comparison, our phone has an S2 CortexA8 and an Adreno 205 GPU which just might be better than the dual core A5, due to it's older architecture. I'm not completely sure though.
Source:Wikipedia-Snapdragon S4
ZaySk said:
This phone actually has a pretty crappy SoC. It's the S4, but more specifically it's an S4 Play MSM8225. It has a dual core CortexA5 processor, an Adreno 203 GPU and is manufactured at 45nm unlike the higher end S4's which use a 28nm process. Modern dual core SoC's are of the CortexA9 variety, (although the S4 is "based on" the CortexA15) which is significantly more powerful.
In comparison, our phone has an S2 CortexA8 and an Adreno 205 GPU which just might be better than the dual core A5, due to it's older architecture. I'm not completely sure though.
Source:Wikipedia-Snapdragon S4
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you lost me when you said MSM8225
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you lost me when you said MSM8225
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Haha, yea that post was definitely filled with a bunch of tech jargon. Basically, it's a much crappier version of the Snapdragon S4 inside the Desire X.
kozuka said:
Question:
Would this be a good mid ranged smartphone to buy when it comes out price 280 euro i gues.
Or are there way better ones out now with higher,better specs? Cause im gonna buy a new one from now to 2 weeks
( Googling and reading shizz on the web to make up my mind )
My old Gio lowass did its job and im ready to go Mid ranged now and with googling i came across this new phone and it looks nice but maybe people here think different?
Any help would be appreciated :victory:
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I would recommend a different phone if you're looking for mid-range. Check out prices on last year's high-end models, that way you're still getting a good phone and if it's high-end, it'll have good dev support. (For example Samsung Galaxy S2, HTC Sensation, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, etc)
Or if you're willing to spend a bit more cash, check out the HTC One S, that's a GREAT mid-range phone.
Hi guys.Is there any jellybean,miui,cyanogenmod roms avialable for htc desire c???
None, yet.
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None, yet.
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Ok...Hope it will come soon..anyway thanks man
I don't think the Desire C will be getting Jelly Bean...
"HTC stated devices with 512MB of RAM or less will not get Jelly Bean, which, translated, means anyone with a One V or Desire C will be left behind.
Of course, that doesn't mean further support and updates will be taken away from those phones entirely; just that those devices won't earn the latest Android OS."
http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...ean-updates-some-phones-left-out-1111992#null
You do know there's a possibility for custom roms, right?
If we all depended on manufacturers for the newest Android, we'd be dead now.
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You do know there's a possibility for custom roms, right?
If we all depended on manufacturers for the newest Android, we'd be dead now.
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Hi brnt,
Yeah I know, but my Desire C struggles with ICS sometimes...I'm not sure it would cope with any version of Jelly Bean. No harm in trying I guess.
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Hi brnt,
Yeah I know, but my Desire C struggles with ICS sometimes...I'm not sure it would cope with any version of Jelly Bean. No harm in trying I guess.
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hey....compared to other phones htc desire c is smooth...dont u think?i am not getting that much problems
it can run jellybean ...cm 10.1 .....the hardware is more than capable enuf of running it....
cpu- 800Mhz
gpu-200Mhz
and as inclusion of project butter.....the gpu will do all the rendering of the ui....
cpu will utilised for the core processes and prog....
That involves getting the cpu overclocked to run that fast which in turn destroys battery life.
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hey....compared to other phones htc desire c is smooth...dont u think?i am not getting that much problems
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Hi sarath19,
Don't get me wrong the Desire C is a cool phone, most of the time it works great. For me it struggles when using and opening certain apps like Instagram, Pixlr-o-matic and a few others I use. Sometimes it crashes, but that's due to the apps being photographic apps that really push the Desire C's limited power.
I'm a photographer and I compared the screen quality side by side with the Nexus 4, considering the Nexus 4 is seen as one of the best screens around the difference when viewing high res dslr stills was not that great at all. The Nexus 4 images were very warm compared to the Desire C, people have been complaing about the Nexus 4 screen being yellow, added to the fact that the Desire C screen is quite cold and blue, you can see a difference in how it handles colours and tones...personally I prefered the more neutral to blue Desire C. Yes the sharpness of the Nexus 4 is better, but not by as much as you would think.
I like my Desire C, a better screen, more power and better AF camera would make it near perfect. I had decided to change it for a Nexus 4 but I've had so many problems from day one with that thing I've decided to keep my Desire C for longer...The Nexus 4 is packed away waiting for TNT to come and pick it up in a few days, it's caused me endless problems and I basically had enough and demanded a refund.
I'll see if I'm tempted by any new models in 2013.
Harv.! said:
Hi sarath19,
Don't get me wrong the Desire C is a cool phone, most of the time it works great. For me it struggles when using and opening certain apps like Instagram, Pixlr-o-matic and a few others I use. Sometimes it crashes, but that's due to the apps being photographic apps that really push the Desire C's limited power.
I'm a photographer and I compared the screen quality side by side with the Nexus 4, considering the Nexus 4 is seen as one of the best screens around the difference when viewing high res dslr stills was not that great at all. The Nexus 4 images were very warm compared to the Desire C, people have been complaing about the Nexus 4 screen being yellow, added to the fact that the Desire C screen is quite cold and blue, you can see a difference in how it handles colours and tones...personally I prefered the more neutral to blue Desire C. Yes the sharpness of the Nexus 4 is better, but not by as much as you would think.
I like my Desire C, a better screen, more power and better AF camera would make it near perfect. I had decided to change it for a Nexus 4 but I've had so many problems from day one with that thing I've decided to keep my Desire C for longer...The Nexus 4 is packed away waiting for TNT to come and pick it up in a few days, it's caused me endless problems and I basically had enough and demanded a refund.
I'll see if I'm tempted by any new models in 2013.
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oki understand...i am new to android and htc desire c is my first android..i have used other android mobiles but i dont know them deeply.....
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That involves getting the cpu overclocked to run that fast which in turn destroys battery life.
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not really 200mhz wont effect the battery life...may be say 2hours from total time....it will run easly for a day and half......and jellybean vanila without htc sense will run more smoothly and efficiently...
I personnally am using my desire c oc'ed at 756 mhz and i am not noticing any unusual drain in battery life
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200 mhz extra really isnt anything to complain about :/
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No need to overclock...
I've seen a couple of videos recently of a Jelly Bean based custom rom running on a HTC Wildfire S. Since the Desire C and the Wildfire S are similarly spec'd phones I don't see any problems running Jelly Bean on a Desire C.
samishal said:
I've seen a couple of videos recently of a Jelly Bean based custom rom running on a HTC Wildfire S. Since the Desire C and the Wildfire S are similarly spec'd phones I don't see any problems running Jelly Bean on a Desire C.
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In fact they are completly different architecture arm6 vs arm7, once the WiFi problem is solved desire c would be a better device for jellybean than the wildfire s because of limitations in the hardware, eg lack of official omx drivers and flash support.
The difference between the development of these 2 devices is developers, I came from the wildfire s forum and there were 2 great devs over there alquez who started development on that device with cm7, then modpunk who's an absolute genius, not only did he build and debug cm9/10 for the wildfire s but also helped many more devices along the way, we could really use someone with his skills round here.
Problem with this device is the lack of true fully fledged developers that actually own it, no disrespect to any of the Rom/kernel builders you all do a great job:beer:
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you should use cm10. it look like jb