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(OTA update) ME863 gets 2.3.6 in Hong Kong

My OEM Hong Kong Milestone 3 (ME863) just got a 28 MB OTA update today. System is now 2.3.6. No mention of what this update brings anywhere....... Kind of weird.
Anyway, looks slightly more smooth. Camera app slightly quicker... No idea of the improvements except that. Need more time to tell about the battery life and the bugs I had before (GPS bug).
If anyone has more info, please share.

So XT862 officially has oldest android

Not sure exactly how to do this, but could you check to see if the OTA has an unlocked bootloader? If it does that would mean some progress, if not, back to square 1!

GPS bugs? Elodie1, care to clarify what do you mean by the GPS bug?
I have the ME863 that the GPS fail to work at all. I cannot see a single satelite with the GPS Status app, even with AGPS turn on. What GPS bug are you experiencing?

Sometimes (not all the time), GPS would not work at all. It's turned on, but the logo does not appear when I launch Maps. And of course, my phone doesn't can't locate me correctly. Same thing with any app.
A simple reboot actually fix this... But it is quite annoying since it makes you waste several minutes.

But, if you're in HK and you think your problem is more a hardware problem, you should bring your phone to the Moto tech centre, they can usually fix it within one day if you bring it in the morning... and they lend you a phone of course.

I see, i guess my problem is different from yours then. Unfortunately I'm not in Hong Kong, I'm sending it back to the seller and hopefully he'll be able fix it or send it back to Hong Kong to fix it.
Don't know how fast it can be fixed though

I see. Anyway, I can now confirm this update does not fix this GPS bug (despite the fact it has been reported by several users on the Motorola forums since the very beginning).
I am happy that the system seems to be slightly more smooth. But I am astonished by how little Moto seems to care. E.g. what would it cost to add the same camera shortcut than on the Razr? Hello Moto! This is basically the very same lockscreen and system! So let's not talk about Smart Actions (but since they are one of the very few things that will differentiate D4 from D3, so let's not care about the D3 early adopters...)

Bought that new MS-3 yesterday and got that OTA update on my way back. Everything seems good even with the GPS navigation program. I can't find any problem so far. I traded in my HTC Sensation which is a total disappointment !

Say... ME863 owners, one thing that I found to be inconvenient, is that the Milestone3 can't do video call directly through 3G. It needs to be done through an app.
Have you all tried it?
I'm sure it's not an android limitation, because Samsung Galaxy S can video call without an App. Maybe Motorola don't think it's worth to support this function?

New phone next week, some questions.

I will be getting a Galaxy Note next week and as I have never owned a Samsung device before nor an Android phone (I do own a tablet but it is a WIFI-only one) I would like to pose a few questions:
* Is the bootloader locked on Samsung devices?
* Is it safe to install all OTA updates? Like e.g. on my Acer tablet the newest OTA update disables root access and locks the bootloader, too, the previous updates didn't do this and thus it definitely isn't safe to blindly accept OTA updates. If it isn't safe to install OTA updates which version(s) should I avoid? (I am located in Finland, northern Europe, if that bears any significance)
* What is the best PC-to-Phone and Tablet-to-Phone tethering solution? Googling around and Android Market suggests PdaNet for this, but it is not free and while it isn't exactly expensive I wish to know if there are other alternatives.
* Can Galaxy Note play high-profile H.264 1080p with H/W acceleration, or can it only do baseline-profile H.264 1080p with H/W? My Acer tablet does not do H/W high-profile so it kind of sucks for consuming random video content on the Internet.
Otherwise I have scoured the forums somewhat now and it seems Mobile Odin -- whatever that is -- is the preferred way of installing custom ROMs. I don't know yet how to root the phone, but I suppose it'll be easy to find out. Also I know ICS is promised for Galaxy Note but that Samsung hasn't seemingly given any timeframe for that, and the CyanogenMod ICS ROM is missing too many things for it to be suitable for my uses. As such I don't really have any other questions at the moment, but I would be grateful if someone offered some useful advice that I should know.
OT: I got to play with a display-model at a local phone shop and geesh damn the screen is big for a phone! I'm quite excited, can hardly stay put waiting for the end of next wekk

No one knows an answer to any of these things? What interests me the most is the [email protected] high-profile vs. baseline-profile question.

* Is the bootloader locked on Samsung devices?
- Nope.
* Is it safe to install all OTA updates?
- If you're not rooted, yes. If you're rooted it does occur that it will remove root access, but it you flash a custom ROM you won't get OTA updates. That's no problem since you can easily flash the update manually within minutes. So don't worry about OTA updates.
What is the best PC-to-Phone and Tablet-to-Phone tethering solution?
- I have no idea since i'm not using it, but PDAnet is the most popular (i think)
Can Galaxy Note play high-profile H.264 1080p with H/W acceleration, or can it only do baseline-profile H.264 1080p with H/W?
- Not 100% sure, but i think you have to put it in a mp4 container for it to work.
About rooting, it's very easy and you can follow these steps. When you've done that you'll have CWM which can flash ROM's and make full backups of your ROM's in case you want to restore or something goes wrong.
There are a couple of things (like the video playback and tethering) i'm not sure of, so some other people will have to step in and possible correct me

[Q] Is there any Rom except SE original that has ANT+ working?

I want to use ANT+ with some newer rom and not with the original SonyEricson version, but so far i couldn't fine any.
Latest try was the: MiniCM9-3.0.0 [1/4/12]ICS 4.0.4/CM9 port for the Χ8 by nobodyAtall with his ICS nAa kernel.
It looked promissing, because I could download the ANT Radio Services from Play Store, but as soon as i start an ANT+ enabled program I get messages like:
(ANT+ Demo)
Enabling ANT...
Enable ANT ->
(ANT+ Bike display Demo)
ANT radio not enabled
So it looks like it claims radio is there and functioning, but it doesn't work.
Any thoughts? Otherwise I'll have to go back (again, tried couple times already with different version) to old SE rom.
(The MiniCM9-3.0.0 looks great although battery drain is awful.)

Just as a general statement that applies to every ROM that's being developed from source ...
- Developers can't fix things where the required hardware for testing is missing.
- Developers won't fix things they don't use at all.
In short: Custom ROMs are being made by privateers in their spare-time. None of us is a employee of some smartphone manufacturer having access to tons of testing equipment or having someone to pay the bill for buying crap to conducts tests with.
On topic: Up till today the people I saw posting about ANT+ can be counted easily by just using the fingers of one hand ... so it's safe to assume that none of us actually owns a ANT+ gadget or makes use of it.

Just to make sure, i'm only asking for information.
About your statements:
Developers can't fix things where the required hardware for testing is missing:
The ANT+ radio is available in most Sony Ericson phones, you just need to install the drivers, and the demo programs.
You don't need to buy a heart rate monitor to see if it works.
In the case of the roms i tried, they either didn´t recognise ANT+ or the driver didn't initialize correctly.
Developers won't fix things they don't use at all:
No problem, I'll try to look into it myself.
On topic: ANT+ is one of the coolest things Sony Ericson implemented in their mobile phones.
At least for anyone that has a (Garmin) heart rate monitor with ANT+.
With your phone and ANT+ heart rate monitor you have a cheaper more flexible GPS/heart rate monitor device than you can buy from any company's and can make phone calls.

Ant+ Rom
I haven't verified that it is working, but MiniCM7 claims to have working Ant+. Unfortunately, I can't use it because it requires the nAa Kernel and I can't unlock my bootloader because my phone is the 11W29 model.
If I find a way to safely unlock the bootloader I'll definitely be giving MiniCM7 a try. Other than lacking the ANT+, I'm really happy GingerDX.
If you find any way to get it working, please post the info.

hi guys,
have you managed to get ANT working on any rom? I'm trying to use it on a ray with iced bean 3.0, but it's just saying enabling ant and after a while switches to enable ant. I mention, I have installed the ant radio service ant ant demo from play. an tried to activate with the demo.
thanks.

[Q] Camera problem, what do you think

hey guys im new on this wp8 forum (old android user) i bought an ativ S from a dude i met once... i knew this had a problem with the camera, i just realized that the back camera is the only one with the problem, ive been reading posts and i tried everything to make it work, but i allways got the same, it doesnt start correctly, i press the camera button or use the camera icon, but its allways the same, the 1st start its like it close so quickly at the 2nd try it keep the screen black, i only see the icons, and an arrow to swipe and see the pics i toke (with the front camera and a 3rd party app) but it close in around 10 seconds... idk what to do... i tought maybe was something about and update (a past one) but few days ago i got an update (not grd2, a minor one) but nothing... i still have the problem... what do you guys think... its a hardware problem or maybe software?... ireally love this cellphone and i dont wanna stop using it

If third-party apps can use the main (rear) camera, then it's not a hardware problem; you could try hard-resetting the phone and seeing if that helps.
If even third-party apps can't use the rear camera, it's either a hardware or firmware problem. Since this is the first I've heard of you particular issue, and since an update didn't fix it, that suggests a hardware problem (it *could* be firmware if you have some weird non-stock firmware on there; what version info do you have in settings->about->more info?). If it's a hardware problem, replacing the phone (or just living with the meh but usable front-facing camera, I guess) is your only real option.

GoodDayToDie said:
If third-party apps can use the main (rear) camera, then it's not a hardware problem; you could try hard-resetting the phone and seeing if that helps.
If even third-party apps can't use the rear camera, it's either a hardware or firmware problem. Since this is the first I've heard of you particular issue, and since an update didn't fix it, that suggests a hardware problem (it *could* be firmware if you have some weird non-stock firmware on there; what version info do you have in settings->about->more info?). If it's a hardware problem, replacing the phone (or just living with the meh but usable front-facing camera, I guess) is your only real option.
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thank you for your answer, =)
uhmmm, as you say i only can use the back camera with an 3rd party app, because when i try to open the pre installed camera app it close...and the camera icons appera in a gray color... except the arrow to see the taken pics, that appear in white...
i discovered some other ppl who had the same problem, :/
oh oh ok. my telephone info is...
Os version: 8.0.10327.77
firmware:2212.13.6.1
hadware: 15.3.1.0
trans soft: 2212.13.6.1
trans hardw: 0.0.0.0
(i actually dont know how to translate this from spanish): 13.04.19.21
SOC chip version: 1.5.32
this is the info i got, before uodating it, the number were almost the same :/
mmmm i remeber when the update was almost ending it was like 1/5 complete... then 2/5 complete... and after that the phone started...what i mean is that there was no 3/5 4/5 or 5/5 steps...
man so you are telling me i wouldnt be abble to replace just the camera, if is a hardware problem??? oh jesus =( i really love this cellphone i dont wanna lose it =(
thank you for your answer my friend =)

First of all: you have GDR2 and the most current firmware that I know of for the SGH-T899M. The line you couldn't translate is "bootloader" (the code that starts, or "boot-straps", the operating system). Your version numbers are identical to mine.
My rear camera works fine, though. Since third-party apps also work, you either have bad firmware somehow (doubtful, especially after the update) or there's something wrong with the Camera app on the phone (more likely). Unfortunately, the only way I know of to fix the latter problem is to re-install the OS (which a hard reset will, or at least should, do).
Replacing just one component, like the camera, is very difficult on a compact device like a modern smartphone. It might be possible, but the cost might not be worth it. On the other hand, if the phone is still under warranty, you should be able to replace for free.

GoodDayToDie said:
First of all: you have GDR2 and the most current firmware that I know of for the SGH-T899M. The line you couldn't translate is "bootloader" (the code that starts, or "boot-straps", the operating system). Your version numbers are identical to mine.
My rear camera works fine, though. Since third-party apps also work, you either have bad firmware somehow (doubtful, especially after the update) or there's something wrong with the Camera app on the phone (more likely). Unfortunately, the only way I know of to fix the latter problem is to re-install the OS (which a hard reset will, or at least should, do).
Replacing just one component, like the camera, is very difficult on a compact device like a modern smartphone. It might be possible, but the cost might not be worth it. On the other hand, if the phone is still under warranty, you should be able to replace for free.
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GDR2??? are you sure my friend?? ive reading and that update come with the Radio app, some camera features and other... but nothing :/ i just got some options in settings and that was all, i even cant download or instal Ativ beam (i dont find it on the store, and when i try to do a manual install it say that is not compatible) and i heard that app is only for the last update
my cellphone is canadian i think, because the company is ROGERS, and i live in peru, so i cant use the warranty or something
i will try to save some of my info, and i will do another hard reset
Do you think there would be a tool for a diagnosis?? i mean conecting my cellphone to a PC in DOWNLOAD MODE or something???
i swear i wont rest till i fix it :'(
again, thank you very much for your time.
P.D: let me show you what the camera looks like for a while

Yes, build 10327.77 is GDR2. Your phone is a SGH-T899M, same as mine; GDR2, along with an interim update ("Amber" maybe?) and a Samsung firmware update, was pushed out to all Canadian SGH-T899M handsets (including those operating in other countries, like yours and mine) a couple days ago.
ATIV Beam installs fine for me; it's probably a region lock and not a matter of device compatibility.
Samsung is reported to have cheapened out on the radio chips for the SGH-T899M, and not included the one needed for FM.
Data Sense (assuming your carrier offers it) is supposedly included, but due to <REDACTED>-up update process, you have to hard-reset to use it (how the *HELL* did that make it through testing? That's supposed to be exactly the sort of BS that those months-long and tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars of testing per-update are supposed to find! Bloody incompetents...)
There's an app called Diagnosis embedded in your phone's firmware; you can install and launch it by typing either ##634# or ##3424# (MFG or DIAG) into the phone's dialer. Check the relevant thread here about dialer codes and diagnosis apps for some examples of things you can do with it (among other things, test the cameras). However, if the camera is working in third-party apps, I doubt that test will find anything. As I said, that indicates a software problem. Hard reset is the only really likely fix for that, if you can't get Samsung to service it. Flashing a stock ROM would probably work too, but I don't know that we have either the ROM nor the flashing tool needed for doing that.

GoodDayToDie said:
Yes, build 10327.77 is GDR2. Your phone is a SGH-T899M, same as mine; GDR2, along with an interim update ("Amber" maybe?) and a Samsung firmware update, was pushed out to all Canadian SGH-T899M handsets (including those operating in other countries, like yours and mine) a couple days ago.
ATIV Beam installs fine for me; it's probably a region lock and not a matter of device compatibility.
Samsung is reported to have cheapened out on the radio chips for the SGH-T899M, and not included the one needed for FM.
Data Sense (assuming your carrier offers it) is supposedly included, but due to <REDACTED>-up update process, you have to hard-reset to use it (how the *HELL* did that make it through testing? That's supposed to be exactly the sort of BS that those months-long and tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars of testing per-update are supposed to find! Bloody incompetents...)
There's an app called Diagnosis embedded in your phone's firmware; you can install and launch it by typing either ##634# or ##3424# (MFG or DIAG) into the phone's dialer. Check the relevant thread here about dialer codes and diagnosis apps for some examples of things you can do with it (among other things, test the cameras). However, if the camera is working in third-party apps, I doubt that test will find anything. As I said, that indicates a software problem. Hard reset is the only really likely fix for that, if you can't get Samsung to service it. Flashing a stock ROM would probably work too, but I don't know that we have either the ROM nor the flashing tool needed for doing that.
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incompetents!!! hell yeah!!! !
my friend are you some kind of wizard or something??, while you were writting it, i was doing a hard reset, and now i have data sense... and oh thats why i cant have ativ beam (NFS in WP devices suxs ass hell, i cant send anything) and... Doesnt have a FM radio???!!! SAMSUNG are you serious?!?!?!?...
i did the ##364# and i got the diagnosis item, thats how i noticed that the front cam worked fine and the "megacam" (front one) doesnt work... (i used the *#0*# code) plus the camera LED doesnt work either
oh well , after the hard reset i just got all my data lost n_n; , but you know... the frontcamera still doesnt work... tell me truth im already FU*beeeep*d ,am i?
i really want to believe that this have a solution...at least a non invasive solution...

I actually have the same issue. Before installing the updates from MS and Samsung the camera worked perfectly. When I updated my phone and did the hard reset, the camera behaves like you say, either a black screen or back to home screen. I called Samsung and they say it is most likely that the update did not install correctly. Though they talk rubbish sometimes as they also told me to update through zune........that doesn't even support WP8..
So flashing a stock rom "might" fix the issue. :fingers-crossed:

The rom was changed before I got the phone, Can I still use it properly? (read Desc.)

Ok, so I bought the ROG Phone 2 on AliExpress a few weeks ago on Black Friday because I really needed a new phone. After reviewing the page details I found out that the seller puts the global rom on himself because it comes by default with the Chinese rom. Will this still work for banking apps and OTA updates? Can I make it work somehow? Had I known in advance that it wouldn't be the Real global version I wouldn't have bought it, but since I've waited so long to get it, I'd just assume make it work myself, rather than go through the whole hassle to return it. I don't know much about custom rom's and what is / isn't possible, so I am at a loss as to what to do, or how I can check what kind of phone it is when I get it. Any help would be much appreciated so thanks in advance!
Here is the page where i bought it, because it has some more information on specifics: "aliexpress.com/item/4000106113494.html?spm=a2g0s.12269583.0.0.5fd61d0e5SUkH5"
Also side question, since the seller changed the rom himself should I be possibly concerned with keylogger or anything?

1. I shouldn't worry too much about keyloggers etc. but if you are, just run a good virus scanner when you get the device...
2. With regard to banking apps, they mainly have issues with being rooted... which you won't be.
3. Regarding OTA's, assuming the fingerprint has been changed, you can see this thread for an app that allows updates to be enabled, providing you aren't rooted or anything.
But, if they haven't changed the fingerprint (you can check using device info HW under 'system') then you'll need to follow one of the guides on the forum to change it yourself... here's one... change fingerprint

Is there a way to unlock the bands, or is that strictly a hardware issue?

Ev3rything said:
Is there a way to unlock the bands, or is that strictly a hardware issue?
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Hardware I think