[Docks] Technica Designs docks - Captivate Themes and Apps

Updated: 9.29.10
9.28.10 - Added Dock5
9.29.10 - Added Dock6 & Dock7
I am a Graphic Designer and I am currently working on some Custom Docks for us Android users. I'm releasing several sets of docks plus specialty ones. Some may not be seen in thumbnails. I will try and create docks regularly.
How to Apply Docks:
1. Download rar file below
2. Unrar to SD (internal or external)
3. Install Launcher Pro
To Apply:
Menu/Preferences/Appearance Settings/Dock background/Custom
Choose your dock
Please share your comments and suggestions and I will continue to work hard on making more for everyone.
Also, if you really like them, please feel free to donate!

Very nice. The first looks great especially, but not a fan of the orange lines in it :\

pretty nice job on all of em

i like the third one the best.. GRR i wanna keep theming my phone.. but when i make stuff .. i end up not liking it lol

E_man5112 said:
Very nice. The first looks great especially, but not a fan of the orange lines in it :\
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That set actually has a dock without the orange lines. Check it out, its v1.0. It is slightly darker in color.

Very nice docks... how would I apply them on my captivate?

jermean said:
Very nice docks... how would I apply them on my captivate?
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Install Launcher Pro
To Apply:
Menu/Preferences/Appearance Settings/Dock background/Custom

Thanks!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Where Can I download that clock. Its tight!

bigfan2232 said:
Where Can I download that clock. Its tight!
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Download "TAJM" from the market.
Cognition Captivate

Stupid question, but did you custom create the text based icons for the apps, or is there a default setting somewhere in LP for this?

pinoymutt said:
Stupid question, but did you custom create the text based icons for the apps, or is there a default setting somewhere in LP for this?
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No, the custom icons are made by Ultralynx. He makes good stuff. I will be making icons soon though.
Cognition Captivate

Related

dxTop Themes

Well, it's time I start working on putting together themes for dxTop so that non-root users can use them. I'm looking for theme authors to volunteer up there themes. I'm only looking to start with themes that will work with the 2 tabs in dxTop (or you can offer up additional assets) and have 100% of the Launcher skinned including the menu icons. Check out the dxTop site for a screen shot of the two tab layout.
If you want to give me permission to convert your theme to work with dxTop, please post here with a link to your theme's thread. Also, include how you want to be credited in the description on the market.
I only plan on doing a few to start. But I will be releasing source for building a themed for dxTop.
Thanks in advance for your help! I will start on this today.
Cheers,
John
you have my permission here is my theme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472812 i have it on dx now here is how it looks if you use my theme just post theme from kron2 looking forward to source for building a themes for dxTop. and looking forward to quote Themes: I was thinking that is image resources are found on the sdcard, they could be loaded instead of the default ones. This would be an easy way to skin dxTop.
Feel free to use any and all themes made by me, should you want to.
Glossy Minimalism
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478183
Leather
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482582
Rusty Metal
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474656
TheMasterBaron said:
Well, it's time I start working on putting together themes for dxTop so that non-root users can use them. I'm looking for theme authors to volunteer up there themes. I'm only looking to start with themes that will work with the 2 tabs in dxTop (or you can offer up additional assets) and have 100% of the Launcher skinned including the menu icons. Check out the dxTop site for a screen shot of the two tab layout.
If you want to give me permission to convert your theme to work with dxTop, please post here with a link to your theme's thread. Also, include how you want to be credited in the description on the market.
I only plan on doing a few to start. But I will be releasing source for building a themed for dxTop.
Thanks in advance for your help! I will start on this today.
Cheers,
John
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SURE
PEACE N WAR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3382602#post3382602
GUCCI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484157
Thanks guys! I have release dxTop with theme support along with Deep Black and Glossy Minimalism.
I will be looking to add the others as time goes on.
Thanks again!
The deep black theme caused a lot of lag on my phone. When dragging from screen to screen, the icons were leaving a trail behind them. Once I uninstalled it, everything was back to normal
EDIT: Nevermind apparently its the new update to dxtop, not the theme. It started happening again, even after a reboot
how deep does the dxtop support for theming go? Is it only the icons on the desktop etc or does it extend to pattern lock buttons etc?
djlucklu said:
SURE
PEACE N WAR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3382602#post3382602
GUCCI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484157
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yo that gucci theme is sick....if this gets on dxtop imma buy dxtop i haven't yet just cause i've been playing with all 3 and not too sure which i want but this gucci theme....that'll be enough to make my decesion.
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yo that gucci theme is sick....if this gets on dxtop imma buy dxtop i haven't yet just cause i've been playing with all 3 and not too sure which i want but this gucci theme....that'll be enough to make my decesion.
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appreciate it
Question:
I currently have the Rusty Metal theme installed through flashing the update.zip. If I switched to say Deep Black through the supported theme (not through update.zip), and didn't like it. What would I get if I switched back to default? The original stock theme, or Rusty Metal same as it was before?
TheMasterBaron said:
I only plan on doing a few to start. But I will be releasing source for building a themed for dxTop.
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Please put Leather high on your priority list.
djlucklu said:
appreciate it
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please tell me your working on burberry theme lmao
cigar3tte said:
Question:
I currently have the Rusty Metal theme installed through flashing the update.zip. If I switched to say Deep Black through the supported theme (not through update.zip), and didn't like it. What would I get if I switched back to default? The original stock theme, or Rusty Metal same as it was before?
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Going back to original will use the stock resources so if you have a rooted theme installed it will show.
MontAlbert said:
how deep does the dxtop support for theming go? Is it only the icons on the desktop etc or does it extend to pattern lock buttons etc?
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Home Interface, Clock, Search Widget and Icons
Beast84 said:
The deep black theme caused a lot of lag on my phone. When dragging from screen to screen, the icons were leaving a trail behind them. Once I uninstalled it, everything was back to normal
EDIT: Nevermind apparently its the new update to dxtop, not the theme. It started happening again, even after a reboot
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Please try the latest version 1.2.3
Sorry if this has already been answered but I just can't seem to find it.
Is the non-root theme unable to replace the status bar?
cigar3tte said:
Sorry if this has already been answered but I just can't seem to find it.
Is the non-root theme unable to replace the status bar?
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Correct, it can't change the status bar.
It's cool using the dxTop them in conjunction with a regular theme.
IE, I'm using the Glossy minimalist dxTop theme with the "Glossuite" competition theme, and it's cool.
Can't wait for more themes to be ported to dxTop.
Can you pleeeeease put up CARBON GLOW.
dmm0816 said:
please tell me your working on burberry theme lmao
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Its in the works might release sunday. Customize default icons on photoshop with burberrry pattern but not too much it so they don't disappear on the desktop lol
djlucklu said:
Its in the works might release sunday. Customize default icons on photoshop with burberrry pattern but not too much it so they don't disappear on the desktop lol
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lol dats wusup...good to hear, i seen dat LV theme too another tight one
I'd like to request a few themes to be added to DXtop.
Aero- By Ultra Spikey
GlossSuite- By MoonsSpoon
gChrome- By MoonsSpoon

[MOD][Metamorph] dinglberry launcher (AOSP 1.6)

I was making one of many themes that i decided not to finish when i get to the boring part of editing the 9 pngs and changing the color of all of them and thanks to stericson metamorph app. i decided i would share some parts of it. Here's the launcher should work with (Aosp 1.6).all i ask if you add it to a theme just give me credit for my work thx.
added a morph for just the clock.
sorry picks are with ddms.
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I was making one of many themes that i decided not to finish when i get to the boring part of editing the 9 pngs and changing the color of all of them and thanks to stericson metamorph app. i decided i would share some parts of it. Here's the launcher should work with (Aosp 1.6).all i ask if you add it to a theme just give me credit for my work thx.
sorry picks are with ddms.
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clock too?
Isnt that the launcher from systemforce or specforce theme? looks similar.
the clock is not in it.i did not like the clock in the nexus dump so i made my nexus clock and the launcher i made i will have to look up systemforce or specforce theme.
added a morph with just the clock and looked at systemforce don't look like it at all and don't see specforce or any thing like it.
kron2 said:
the clock is not in it.i did not like the clock in the nexus dump so i made my nexus clock and the launcher i made i will have to look up systemforce or specforce theme.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549733
launcher looks similar here.
Ace42 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549733
launcher looks similar here.
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lol i don't see the similarities
kron2 said:
lol i don't see the similarities
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looks really slick. thank you for sharing. i think they must look the same because the both use lines maybe that is it?
Ace42 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549733
launcher looks similar here.
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you got to be kidding.
Hey Kron,
Any luck with music widget?
Ace42 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549733
launcher looks similar here.
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Man, you need to put down the crack pipe. You're not talking a damn bit of sense.
LMAO @ Those responses
Sweet!!!!
nice i like it! looks like you have a few metamorphs, would it be possible if you could put them all in one thread so that they are all easily accessible. it would also decrease the clutter of metamorphs in the theme section. just a suggestion.
is the settings widget included too?
Can we get advanced launcher support?
Ozonethegreat said:
Can we get advanced launcher support?
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metamorph will replace the images in whatever you have as Launcher.apk in /system/app/ if that is the Advanced Launcher, then you have Advanced Launcher support.
I was joking guys ,no launcher looks like his.
lol you say that now because you got super called out. =]
Ace42 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549733
launcher looks similar here.
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I don't see the similarity at all. Care to post pics side by side, i need a tutorial on this.
joshuas_79 said:
is the settings widget included too?
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settings widget released by kron2. Search and you find it.
kron i have a question. The clock on my phone looks a bit like the screenshots you posted, some grany lines separating the shades of grey.
But checking inside the metamorph file on the pc the clock dial file looks perfect.
Is it the low resolution of my phone?

Custom Docks!!

found a thread on the LauncherPro Forum, docks are being shared on there.
http://www.launcherpro.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=854
Thanks! Love LauncherPro...
since i'm too lazy too create an account in the forum there i will post mine dock here. hope you like it. It's just a 2 tone dock nothing fancy.
EDIT: added a snapshot to get an idea of what it will look like on your phones.
sweet, thanks for the heads up
thanks for sharing your dock, if more people share could make this sticky
Yea, that would be nice. Come on guys let's see them docks.
Here is mine from my CM5 theme. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696285
I think you should change the title to
"Launcher Pro Custom Docks"
then people will realise what this thread is really about
HI, how can I get a dock like this on VillainRom 12?
Is it only for non sense ROMs?
Docks are gay and iphonish, sorry just my opinion.
shawn1224 said:
Docks are gay and iphonish, sorry just my opinion.
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i agree to a point. only if its like a shelf
Docks are cool...shelves blow
How do you install docks?
I have a G1
running cyanogen CM5.0.8
suave sense them.
G1gurl said:
How do you install docks?
I have a G1
running cyanogen CM5.0.8
suave sense them.
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the docks are for launcher pro beta/plus
download them ( both the app and the docks from the links in this thread )
create a folder on ur sd, place the docks in there
while using launcher pro open up the "appearance settings"
dock > custom > select the one u want, from the folder u created
ENJOY!

[CM7 THEME CHOOSER(HDPI)/LPP/FANCY WIDGET/FONT] BlackSlate v0.2 (12/apr/2011)

Here's a combination of a modded LauncherPro (installable over signal23 ones or on its own) and a matching theme for CM7 Theme Chooser.
This is the very first release, so there could be various bugs.
At the bottom of the post you'll find some screenshots with various backgrounds, I think this LPP theme could match almost anything
So here are the files:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14602324/BlackslateLauncherPro.apk
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14602324/BlackslateCM7.apk
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14602324/BlackslateDock.jpg
Alternative transparent dock (even cooler, see last screenshots):
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14602324/BlackslateDockTr.png
Matching Fancy Widget Pro skin (replaces h7cclock, see last screenshots):
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14602324/h7cclock.rar
Here's the font (apply with FontChanger)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14602324/HelveticaNeueLTCom-Lt.ttf
Icons come from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804085
Install as normal apks.
CHANGELOG:
0.1: Initial release.
0.2: Fixed charging battery icons.
There are a few minor issues (affecting only CM7 theme, LPP mod should be fine):
Preview not showing in theme chooser, therefore it's hard to find (but it's there!!! look for the name below).
It shows as "JAMTFlatBlack_Free UOT".
Apk name in "Manage Applications" is erratic (still JAMTFlatBlack_Free UOT).
P.S.: CM7 theme is based upon JAMT by ClassicalGas.
This looks good
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA Premium App
Nice
Nice! Looks good!
Edit ....post canceled
Good looking
gratzi!
10 char
Sorry just making sure. This is LPP theme mod is based off of LPP vers v0.8.4.1, correct?
Really nice, using the CM theme now. I think I'll try out the LP theme too.
I did have a little bug with the CM7 theme though, it didn't show a screenshot in the theme chooser, which made it a little hard to find/select.
webmastir said:
Sorry just making sure. This is LPP theme mod is based off of LPP vers v0.8.4.1, correct?
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Yes, 0.8.4.1
icechiller said:
Really nice, using the CM theme now. I think I'll try out the LP theme too.
I did have a little bug with the CM7 theme though, it didn't show a screenshot in the theme chooser, which made it a little hard to find/select.
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Yeah I know, there are still some bugs I have to work out (preview not showing, incorrect preview name, incorrect apk name in Titanium or application management). I have no idea how to solve them, I think I have to search XDA for solutions
What's font in the theme?
tomek3pl said:
What's font in the theme?
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Helvetica Neue LT.
Should I add it to OP?
I don't know what to say, i was looking at this and found myself thinking, "I should use this theme to create my first Theme chooser theme" then i saw this and was like: +:-/
Matty Matt said:
I don't know what to say, i was looking at this and found myself thinking, "I should use this theme to create my first Theme chooser theme" then i saw this and was like: +:-/
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Yeah, my original idea was something like yours, but when working on it I darkened it a bit and ended up with something I like even more
Looks good thanks
This is nice really good work almost makes me want to install sense again. Will you post the launcher pro mod as well? If its here I'm sorry I can't seem to find it.
next phones to get Evo3d,HTC sensation, Samsung galaxy 2 going to start deving soon=D
Just want to add my thanks for this
Killbynature said:
This is nice really good work almost makes me want to install sense again. Will you post the launcher pro mod as well? If its here I'm sorry I can't seem to find it.
next phones to get Evo3d,HTC sensation, Samsung galaxy 2 going to start deving soon=D
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Hi, I viewed this thread from xda app earlier today and didn't see the launcher pro link. However in browser it appears fine
noble8 said:
Just want to add my thanks for this
Hi, I viewed this thread from xda app earlier today and didn't see the launcher pro link. However in browser it appears fine
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Thank you so much I wonder why it doesn't appear.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA Premium App
I love the LPP theme, and the typeface, but the CM7 theme doesn't seem to have worked - I got a sense-style theme, whereas in the screenshots shown it appears to be completely different. Is it because my screen is MDPI, or did I do something wrong?
Ravrahn said:
I love the LPP theme, and the typeface, but the CM7 theme doesn't seem to have worked - I got a sense-style theme, whereas in the screenshots shown it appears to be completely different. Is it because my screen is MDPI, or did I do something wrong?
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Same thing for me as well..hmm
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA Premium App

Sense ui is slow---but who says your hero needs to look boring to get speed??

Who says your phone needs to be boring to be fast??​
look at the screenies below and ill guide you to get your desired look
without sacrificing speed.
first you should pick the best vanilla gb rom you can find.
id recommend roms by elelinux and the OMFGB rom you can find it in the android dev forums for the Hero g2.
Im using OMFGB after using elelinux also, but i like some of the cool options and mods omfgb has although elelinux rom is a bit more speedy. ​
now ill tell you the apps i got on my phone tht cause the look
1. Agile lock ---- For the Salsa sense lock screen.....really responsive, even better than stock sense rom for hero.
2. LP Slate Sense is the sense clock without the animation for less memory consumption there are apps tht include the animation but i dont recommend them.
3. ADW Launcher EX and gingerbread theme for system icons and adw elegant theme for the dock icons. to change dock i cons drag and drop the app and just tap and hold and tap on edit and then on the icon then on adw elgant and choose icon u wish to use
4. for speed turn off animations, use rom toolbox to zipaling apps and setcpu to change ur cpu frequencies to max the closest to 710 the app ur using allows not in the 700 better something like 680 and min to 310-360 and scaling to smartass
5. now get the theme chooser theme finder app from market and look for theme naked simplicity
6. now if you have any issues just post it here and ill help you
dont forget to thank if you found this post helpful
Are you trying to tell us that vanilla is boring? You can do literally anything with vanilla, you can be boring (most people like to call it 'minimalist') if you want, and you can be super complicated.
I prefer to go with the minimalist theme, and for me, sense is ugly, the only advantage is widgets, and I get them with LP+ anyway. This is my last screenshot.
Boring enough?
Whatever... Thanks for the guide, but that sort of stuff is pretty well known.
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Man, please tell me how you got that theme working! I've been looking for something this minimalistic for ages, with slidescreen dead and such.
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Malitai said:
Man, please tell me how you got that theme working! I've been looking for something this minimalistic for ages, with slidescreen dead and such.
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
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+1, that looks sweet here is mine:
Andyt95 - could you write a few words about the setup? Looks like a killer to me. I recognize uber music widget, and I guess.. minimalistic text with variables for sms and missed calls.. the lockscreen is widget locker, right?
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Andyt95 - could you write a few words about the setup? Looks like a killer to me. I recognize uber music widget, and I guess.. minimalistic text with variables for sms and missed calls.. the lockscreen is widget locker, right?
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You're in luck that I write step-by-step instructions for most of my themes...
On the lockscreen is:
- widgetlocker
- missedit
- ubermusic 4x2 with Metro skin
- Cowon D3 slider
Homescreen
- Skinned mClock
- Missedit
- Ubermusic 4x1 with Metro skin
- some old dock which I found somewhere and I've had sitting on my phone for years.
Ok, follow these links for a bit, and you'll find out what's going on
lockscreen overlay and missedit.
wltheme // I've completely lost the D3 slider, so go fetch.
UberMusic and the Metro skin are on the market.
Wallpaper
mClock skin The xml is called 'miui178' owtte
The CM7 theme is an edited version of Z25's MIUI theme.
Andyt95 said:
Are you trying to tell us that vanilla is boring? You can do literally anything with vanilla, you can be boring (most people like to call it 'minimalist') if you want, and you can be super complicated.
I prefer to go with the minimalist theme, and for me, sense is ugly, the only advantage is widgets, and I get them with LP+ anyway. This is my last screenshot.
Boring enough?
Whatever... Thanks for the guide, but that sort of stuff is pretty well known.
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Thing is most ppl with a hero are always waiting for a sense ui release for the lates firmware just for the look, because they think vanilla is boring. truth is vanilla is very custumizable and speedy..tht is what i was trying to show.....i would thank all you guys who post ur themes and looks for the hero here...to show tht vanilla is the bomb for looks and speed.
thanks ;D
Truth is, on older phones newer sense versions feel like bloatware. I've been waiting for months for froyo sense (with camera, how can one live without it?), ditched waiting, went vanilla.
Never felt regret about that, even for a moment. There are better things in life than sense
Anyways, I wanted to keep it under wraps for a while longer, but whatever, why not mention, since we're talking here vanilla-power, how about this:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/xdasshot2.jpg/
(can't post image directly, cause.. well, for a while I have an xda-noob status. ekhm..)
It's my own homebrew theme, so I could use some constructive criticism. Cause after what I've seen in post#2, it makes me wanna change the decor completely..
kirilliz said:
+1, that looks sweet here is mine:
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arrgg!!! seems IOS
jseb14 said:
Who says your phone needs to be boring to be fast??​
look at the screenies below and ill guide you to get your desired look
without sacrificing speed.
first you should pick the best vanilla gb rom you can find.
id recommend roms by elelinux and the OMFGB rom you can find it in the android dev forums for the Hero g2.
Im using OMFGB after using elelinux also, but i like some of the cool options and mods omfgb has although elelinux rom is a bit more speedy. ​
now ill tell you the apps i got on my phone tht cause the look
1. Agile lock ---- For the Salsa sense lock screen.....really responsive, even better than stock sense rom for hero.
2. LP Slate Sense is the sense clock without the animation for less memory consumption there are apps tht include the animation but i dont recommend them.
3. ADW Launcher EX and gingerbread theme for system icons and adw elegant theme for the dock icons. to change dock i cons drag and drop the app and just tap and hold and tap on edit and then on the icon then on adw elgant and choose icon u wish to use
4. for speed turn off animations, use rom toolbox to zipaling apps and setcpu to change ur cpu frequencies to max the closest to 710 the app ur using allows not in the 700 better something like 680 and min to 310-360 and scaling to smartass
5. now get the theme chooser theme finder app from market and look for theme naked simplicity
6. now if you have any issues just post it here and ill help you
dont forget to thank if you found this post helpful
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thx pal, this is voluntary and a no remunerated hobby, the intention is what counts, sometimes people do not value it ...
Andyt95 said:
You're in luck that I write step-by-step instructions for most of my themes...
On the lockscreen is:
- widgetlocker
- missedit
- ubermusic 4x2 with Metro skin
- Cowon D3 slider
Homescreen
- Skinned mClock
- Missedit
- Ubermusic 4x1 with Metro skin
- some old dock which I found somewhere and I've had sitting on my phone for years.
Ok, follow these links for a bit, and you'll find out what's going on
lockscreen overlay and missedit.
wltheme // I've completely lost the D3 slider, so go fetch.
UberMusic and the Metro skin are on the market.
Wallpaper
mClock skin The xml is called 'miui178' owtte
The CM7 theme is an edited version of Z25's MIUI theme.
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Hey
i love the clock on your homescreen! I downloaded the xml... but the background of the clock is not there. Is that just photoshopped onto your wallpaper? or am i doing something wrong?
sl slate clock is a pay version there is a skin for fancy widgets for free in the market,,
Calico5 said:
Hey
i love the clock on your homescreen! I downloaded the xml... but the background of the clock is not there. Is that just photoshopped onto your wallpaper? or am i doing something wrong?
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there is no clock background, it's the overlay for the wallpaper. Read the attatchments properly, there is an overlay thing in there... I get the feeling that the only overlay there is the iPhone-y one straight from Chris, but I cba checking... I edited a few of the images Chris made, you can do it yourself, but if you really really want it and don't want to do anything yourself, I suppose I could do some digging...

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