I was wondering if we could get 640x360 at 120fps video recording without audio on the phone as 1280x720 at 30fps is already there.
So if the phone can process 720p at 30fps then it should also do 640x360 at 120fps or even 320x180 at 240fps(for ultra-slow motion).
If this is possible then we can reduce the video playback framerate to 30fps(on computer or on the phone itself if it is possible) and the video would be in slow motion.
I read that by editing the media_profiles.xml we can tinker with video recording settings, i think it is available on froyo only.
So can the leaked builds for SGS can they be used?
I would be getting the SGS on my birthday so can't try it myself.
Till then i am gathering information on mods that can be done to enhance the android experience.
Thanks in advance.
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Utkarsh
I would love this. My girlfriend can do it with her Samsung Wave, too. I'm so jealous
I found the topic in another sub-forum before, but there doesn't seem to be much interest in this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726111
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Would love this feature too
Im not sure if you can just decrease the pixel and so increase your frames per sec
I think this depends on the camera....
Because if you think backwards... you have 640p at 30fps, and you would turn it in 15fps, the resolution increases ? No, i think the Wave camera simply has this feature to film 120fps....
But please tell me im wrong, because i would also love it !!
I think its true that the camera must support this feature. But it's also about the throughput of data which has a certain maximum. That's why the resolution is reduced a factor 2, and enabling a frame rate of 120 fps, without exceeding the maximum data throughput.
But I also think that if it's possible on a Wave, it must be possible on a Galaxy S. I'm rather convinced they use the same camera, judging from the samples recordings made with both phones.
So hopefully, somebody can jump into this. Or give a real explanation how this slo-mo recodind works.
(Is it really a high shutter speed, and do you need a very highly illuminated object, or do they make use of some interpolation technique?)
Can anybody try!!!!
Can anybody running leaked froyo on SGS try this by editing the media_profiles.xml
i guess it might work as cyanogen mod 6 enabled 720p on the nexus one.
By editing the media_profiles.xml we might get 120fps video which can be slowed on computer(by reducing the video playback to 30fps).
Technically speaking i think it is possible if the camera is not causing a bottleneck, because the data rate at which 720p is encoded is enough for 640x360 at 120fps if we do the math.
So please it is my ernst request to all the pro-mods to try this.
Any news on this matter??
it occured to me that we could extract the cammera app from a samsung wave and translate the slo-motion feature to our i9000... any hint on how to do this??
Months old topic but... BUMP!
Really not fare that WAVE can do it but i9000 cant
What a great idea - although I suspect if it could be done, it would have been already....
Fingers crossed though
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Am I the only one here complaining of the very bad video quality taken with the Kaiser (TyTN II) apparently caused by the low frame rate ? I don't think so, because I've heard few other people complaining of the same thing....
I just want you guys to either raise your voice or suggest a solution... I used to take much better videos using older HTC models, and the Kaiser supposed to be doing better than those older models, not worse....
Check out the following YouTube clip to compare the Kaiser to Nokia N95..... What a shame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz9lqEATEA0
Yes, its utterly useless. The 8525 was better. Why?
wow striking comparison. there's got to be a way to up the FPS via the registry...
I tried changing both the fps and bitrate in the registry but see no improvement.
I believe it will require software or driver update through HTC... I hope they are aware of it.... guys we have to email HTC so they will be aware of it (if they are not already)
Yup, this is a hard/software problem; no known player works at a decent speed.
I wonder if you can disable the autofocus of the camera and make the video quality better?
The front facing camera does not have auto focus and it shoots much better video.
Bummer. This was a major selling point to me and I have yet to get decent quality.
I haven't done much encoding, so I thought it was my bad on the encode side.
So even with TCPMP/Core Player and optimal encode settings, it's still bad? People have been saying sling player works well, is it because they stream at a low frame rate?
EDIT: Doing a bit more research, seems some people have gotten decent performance...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298126 (but on Wizard)
Here is some hope for it being just an encoding/settings issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336063&highlight=video (Page 2)
from another forum
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-...5/93396-video-performance-recomendations.html
But this seems to suggest there is some firmware work to be done before any "real" improvement can take place.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339173&highlight=video
And here, the recommendation is the .7x TCPMP (should be the right one under the Kaiser CABS sticky)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336433&highlight=video
Seems there is quite a bit of competing info on this. Can anyone confirm settings that work? If so, please post details of player/settings/encoding rates/codec/ etc. Maybe there is a sweet spot that will make do until a firmware update can be had (if this is even a possible fix).
This thread is pertaining to video -capture- quality, not playback.
Yes, good catch. Playback also seems to be disappointing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339173&highlight=video
I wonder if there is any relation.
I cant get the frame rate on my TyTN 2 much above 9 FPS with my Slingbox. Are are and how are people getting these 25 plus frames per second????.
Matt.
Someone please change this thread title to "Low Video Capture Quality" please. lol
Is there a way or tweak to get the camera to record at VGA or WVGA @ 30fps? I have a 14 month old daughter and im constantly taking pics of her for the familly ect and noticed that when recording video the framerate is very laggy or slow motion like. The iphone 3gs records great video quality and the N1 has better specs so id assume higher frame rate on record is possible with the N1 also.
Any thoughts anyone?
Thx Guys!
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People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
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People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
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i don't think he was in a bs kinda tone. hard to tell on forums
you'll thank yourself later for using a higher quality camera (dedicated camera) of any kind for videos one day. proud parent here, know whatcha mean about wanting to capture the cool 'new' moments.
now then, as far as recording, i'll bet there are settings you can change for it someday. right now the video quality is pretty darn good. just dumped a couple of videos from mine today. frame rate is quite good, picture clarity good, fps decent.
IF YOU FIND an app or way to up the settings, PLEASE update this thread in your original post.
Yeah, Im not trying to come off negative to anyone. I have a decent standalone camera that can take great pics and video a 10mpiexel cam with ful vga record. With phones tho its so MUCH MUCH MUCH more conveient to beable to snap a picture and have that picture allready able to send as MMS / Email / Up Load to facebook ect...
With the standalone camera I have to take mem card out - load to card reader - copy pics to mem card on my nexus - ect...
Just too many steps. When I had an iphone 3gs for a lmited time I was amazed at the video recording quality from a cell phone.
Now with the nexus with specs better then iphone I dont see why we cant get full 30fps at WVGA or VGA res. With 1ghz CPU and 5mpxl that should be possible right out the box. Seems like its definetly possible and im all for the ability to carry less devices.
it would be great if we could get 30 fps on the nexus. my under powered n97 does 30 fps and its video quality is a step up from my nexus for sure. kinda disappoints me that the video quality isn't just as good as my previous phones.
the moto droid (with lower specs) can do 30fps with some hacking... im sure its some setting in the rom that we can change
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/19647-increase-camera-video-quality.html
HTC Desire with similar hardware does 30fps.
I don't know if it's HW or SW limitation, though. Did anyone try to record video on Desire ROM and can verify the actual fps?
Well, the Desire ROM allows for WGVA recording. I do not know about all the fps stuff, but I do know that I am recording in WGVA.
You should be able to by modifying the camera driver in the kernel and the build.prop. I'll look into this when I have the time, but I found the line that should control frame rate. A commit says that not all cameras are stable at 30fps, but how's that ever stopped us?
Any devs looking at the possibility to record movies in fullhd, 1080p ? I seem to remember I read somewhere that it should be capable of it.
Well if it is capable of recording in full-HD then why wouldn't Samsung themselves implement it so to make more sales?
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Well if it is capable of recording in full-HD then why wouldn't Samsung themselves implement it so to make more sales?
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Are we talking about the same company that decided to use rfs filesystem and use reserved memory thus limiting available ram... not to mention the weak wi-fi reception / gps issues.
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Are we talking about the same company that decided to use rfs filesystem and use reserved memory thus limiting available ram... not to mention the weak wi-fi reception / gps issues.
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Exactly my point, there could be a thousand of different reasons. But maybe our devs inhere are a bit sharper than Samsung themselves...
People have made mods that claim an extra 20 - 30 megabytes of RAM. When these are applied problems are noticed with 720p recording. Imagine the ram usage for 1080p. I don't think its worth the hassle.
1080p used in mobile phones do you think will be much better?
come on!
i dont think so...
Especially since the audio is still bollixed... if they fixed that first.
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Dont think it need it.
First if hardware permit to record 1080p stream the 5megapixels chip wont manage to provide 1080p frames with a decent framerate.
then if it could the optics wont be able to resolve the resolution gain.compared with n8 nokia or iphone 4 720p output you can see what there s place for improvement in this way(sharpest optic and better sensibility)
but may our dev can work on compression level to keep more fine detail , sensibility management or faster autofocus without resolution change.
think this is the only reasonable improvement we could expect by software mod
Well, I have problems with 1080p playing, let alone recording.
Anyway, the hardware is 100% capable of 1080p recording and it would be really cool if some can mod it.
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Dont think it need it.
First if hardware permit to record 1080p stream the 5megapixels chip wont manage to provide 1080p frames with a decent framerate.
then if it could the optics wont be able to resolve the resolution gain.compared with n8 nokia or iphone 4 720p output you can see what there s place for improvement in this way(sharpest optic and better sensibility)
but may our dev can work on compression level to keep more fine detail , sensibility management or faster autofocus without resolution change.
think this is the only reasonable improvement we could expect by software mod
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Hummingbird is capable of 1080p hardware decoding/encoding. It's equipped with hardware encoders/decoders. Both of them require decent amount of RAM reserved. I think that was the issue.
5mpix sensor is perfectly capable of delivering decent framerate @720p, why wouldn't it be capable of 1080p?
Resolution is enough, there might be bandwidth limiting factors between sensor-CPU.
Optics is perfectly capable of making quite sharp photos @5mpix, why wouldn't it be capable of shooting just 1920x1080?
There will be no software mod enabling 1080p recording, without hacking into hardware codecs/drivers.
Even if the framerate would go down to 15-20 fps, I would personally really like this feature. Some moments are best captured in highest resolution possible. An idea about the memory could be to allocate needed amount on demand, thereafter releasing it again?
Thanks for confirming that our Galaxy S is indeed hardware-wise capable of recording in 1920x1080.
Actually, why 1080p? It doesn't NEED to be 1080p. Why can't we add support for 800p (800lines vertical res) or even 960p.
We keep thinking about making the jump to 1080p, but is there any reason why would couldn't ramp up the resolution higher on the camera? Just because your TV expects 720p, doesn't mean computers do when playing it back...
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Actually, why 1080p? It doesn't NEED to be 1080p. Why can't we add support for 800p (800lines vertical res) or even 960p.
We keep thinking about making the jump to 1080p, but is there any reason why would couldn't ramp up the resolution higher on the camera? Just because your TV expects 720p, doesn't mean computers do when playing it back...
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800p and 960p are not common, so it would make things awkward. Can't play it on a 720p screen and not properly on a 720p screen.
BTW although noticable I don't think the difference between 1080p and 720p is that big. So I don't think anyone would really notice the difference between 720p and 960p and if so probably more as a placebo than a real difference.
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800p and 960p are not common, so it would make things awkward. Can't play it on a 720p screen and not properly on a 720p screen.
BTW although noticable I don't think the difference between 1080p and 720p is that big. So I don't think anyone would really notice the difference between 720p and 960p and if so probably more as a placebo than a real difference.
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I agree on the odd formats. However, going from 720p to 1080p is a significant improvement, especially if you have a large ( 46" + ) flat panal to view things on.
I would be very interested in this. And for everyone saying its not needed, this is a development forum. Many many many things that are done are "not needed" but still pretty cool. He asked if it could be done, lets stick to if it can, not if it should.
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5mpix sensor is perfectly capable of delivering decent framerate @720p, why wouldn't it be capable of 1080p?
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720 from 5 meg camera is already seriously pushing it, almost hack wise. Normally only 8 meg cameras should support it. And im not speaking about 1080...
The sensors usually can't deliver 30 fps at 1080p even if the hardware can encode it (which ive seen no tech specs of,just various "web claims" aka moot stuff)
It's not because its a 5MP sensor etc, its about how much data can go through the sensor after it's captured (that's before the CPU/DSP!!) You have very good 5MP 1080p cameras, because the sensors can handle it. They also cost more. I highly doubt the one in the SGS can handle much more than 720p at 30fps.
i'd rather have the image processing improved than 1080p, since 1080p (if it could be done that is) will be approx the same quality as 720p, use twice the space and need twice the power to decode on other systems.
in fact even the encoder can maybe be optimized. i'm not familiar with the hummingbird, but the OMAP's have TI's own such hardware codecs and while its proprietary you can implement your own codec accelerated by the DSP.
HummingBird's codec produce "very average" 720p H264 mainline (i believe?) at 10-12mbits (!)
Compare with x264 4mbit 720p H264 high profile quality for the same source, it blasts it away quality wise and is 2/2.5x smaller in file size. besides it has a zillion options depending if you want quality, latency etc.
bottom line, if a genius would accelerate x264 via the DSP it would be awesome.
I know the x264 team worked on the OMAP DSP with little success, mostly due to rather cryptic documentation
There are plenty of PC displays which AREN'T 1080P (only cheap ones). 1080p and 720p is optimal for TV's, but not computer displays. There are plenty of computer displays which are 1200 lines vertical resolution.
And I've found a difference between 720p and 1080p, but it's more obvious on larger displays which supports higher resolutions
I'd rather have slow-motion and a proper app that enables video editing/cutting/sound mixing just with Iphone 4.
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I'm inclined to agree, theres room for improvement at 720p, its like the same logic as low end cameras and camera phones alike ramping up the pixel count doesn't directly mean better quality..
Plus the phone although it should be able to currently doesn't like playing back 1080p videos...
I'm not saying everyones going to want to watch 1080p on an 800 x 400 panel, just saying you might want to play back what you've just recorded to see how its come out..
I am trying to increase video recording resolution of our phone from 640x480 to 720x480.As our phone can decode videos upto WVGA resolution so it should be possible to encode videos of this resolution (I can be wrong).I have achieved to the point of having 720x480 in recording settings.But getting camera call back error on starting recording.So if anyone can tell if recording is hardware limited(processor/camera sensor) or not,it will be very appreciable.
thanks
Proof:-
P.S-I am using DDKQ8 SGS2 camera mod by CCGH thats why interface looks different
No one huh :/ I will ask a few devs i know to look at this thread then
Hey!
The Motorola Defy has 480p as default but they have ported the Defy+ rom to it and it enables 720p!
But it is Armv7!
In short, our camera is capable to shoot 720p as it can take 720x480 photos but it has to take 30 such photos in one second and the hardware doesn't allow it. It has low capability hardware so shooting at 30 FPS and 720x480 can take a lot of load on the hardware and so it might not work at all. Also, you will need additional codecs to record 720p.
So it will be tough to make it work and the video might be laggy..
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Hey!
The Motorola Defy has 480p as default but they have ported the Defy+ rom to it and it enables 720p!
But it is Armv7!
In short, our camera is capable to shoot 720p as it can take 720x480 photos but it has to take 30 such photos in one second and the hardware doesn't allow it. It has low capability hardware so shooting at 30 FPS and 720x480 can take a lot of load on the hardware and so it might not work at all. Also, you will need additional codecs to record 720p.
So it will be tough to make it work and the video might be laggy..
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720p=/=720x480.
Defy is diff. case.Thats armv7 so its reference doesnt help.
What I am asking is 720x480 encoding possible by our processor or not.
2nd problem is aspect ratio-our default ratio is 4:3 and 720x480 is 3:2.So i guess this resolution MAY be related to wide angle lense or something.Its just an assumption.We cant have 720*480 full screen.Black bars will be there.So most probably needs XML resizing in camera app
Question guys - to enable you to slow certain scenes in a video you need to select the slow motion video scene...fair enough.
Should this in turn reduce the quality of the video?
I could be wrong, but before I went to a custom ROM, I am fairly sure the video quality remained the same as normal. Now as soon as I record in slow motion, it reduces the quality.
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Question guys - to enable you to slow certain scenes in a video you need to select the slow motion video scene...fair enough.
Should this in turn reduce the quality of the video?
I could be wrong, but before I went to a custom ROM, I am fairly sure the video quality remained the same as normal. Now as soon as I record in slow motion, it reduces the quality.
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hello there
yes it will reduce the quality ...
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I noticed that too with mine. Horrible isn't it? You also get reduced quality with 60fps. You get verticals lines. I gave up and stuck to 30fps.
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I noticed that too with mine. Horrible isn't it? You also get reduced quality with 60fps. You get verticals lines. I gave up and stuck to 30fps.
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I also have this problem vertical line appear in indoor environment. However, customer service told me this will be fix in next update.
Slow Motion = Low Resolution
I saw that HTC video doing a slow motion video of a man doing fire/flame stunt. Actually I was amazed and got excited that I wanted to try that Slow motion on my own with something else like a sprinkler maybe.
So I found one at a park and as soon as I started shooting the video (slow motion video under video settings) WTH!!!! The resolution dropped to something like 768x432 and its a bite pixellated, not true HD (1080p) which I thought I'd expect just like from the HTC video... Yes you can trim/edit the video that's cool but I was hoping for 1080p HD quality
I hoped HTC would come with an update that can maximize its camera features up to 1080p resolution. oh well..
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I saw that HTC video doing a slow motion video of a man doing fire/flame stunt. Actually I was amazed and got excited that I wanted to try that Slow motion on my own with something else like a sprinkler maybe.
So I found one at a park and as soon as I started shooting the video (slow motion video under video settings) WTH!!!! The resolution dropped to something like 768x432 and its a bite pixellated, not true HD (1080p) which I thought I'd expect just like from the HTC video... Yes you can trim/edit the video that's cool but I was hoping for 1080p HD quality
I hoped HTC would come with an update that can maximize its camera features up to 1080p resolution. oh well..
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Well I guess is impossible because the Snapdragon 600 doesn't support the record of 1080p videos at 120fps :\
I'm on stock 4.2.2 and I've recorded this slow motion clip a week ago (don't forget to turn on HD when viewing it). The quality seems fine to me.
Yeah. The quality is awfull. The slow motion video from the the device with the man in the night eith fire from his mouth is years ahead bettrr than the ones we can record... But why HTC ?!
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some info on this please?
hello guys. i'm sorry for this little derailing question but it was the only thread i found:
i'm currently digging into slo-mo available in latest phones.
i just saw some HTC ONE samples and i was very disappointed from the low resolution.
i was particularly impressed with the new Iphone 5S 120 FPS real 720P feature. it really looks 720 and not upscaled like the fake 720p NOTE 3 slo-mo. however i cannot use iphone anymore due to the small screen.
so from this thread i gather the faster frame limitation is by the processor itself? (snapdragon 600-800? what's the 720P limit?)
i am willing to wait until an Android phone will have a usable 720 slo-mo..
so what hardware could provide this? as i can see nowdays, the latest android phones cannot do it (not the NOTE 3 or the G2 which doesn't even have slo-mo to begin with).
my choice now are either wait for a phone that will (maybe the next HTC?), or wait till apple make a bigger phone (cannot stand the small screen).
your thoughts on this?
thanks.