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Hey new guy here

Thought I would post to introduce myself. I signed on here (browsed & used this site in the past) since I just got a new phone (HTC Juno).
I go thru about 4 phones a year, I know thats nothing compared to some. I can stay content with the same phone for about 4 months before I get the itch to upgrade
Oh and if you wonder about the username, I love me some JDM cars

JDMpire said:
Thought I would post to introduce myself. I signed on here (browsed & used this site in the past) since I just got a new phone (HTC Juno).
I go thru about 4 phones a year, I know thats nothing compared to some. I can stay content with the same phone for about 4 months before I get the itch to upgrade
Oh and if you wonder about the username, I love me some JDM cars
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Hi new guy!
Why 4 months? The ideas we have here are meant to upgrade the same phone to make it even better than the one you really want, or the one that isn't fully released yet !

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TheChampJT[/B];2938379]Hi new guy!
Why 4 months? The ideas we have here are meant to upgrade the same phone to make it even better than the one you really want, or the one that isn't fully released yet !
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Great comment!!
Agree
And also welcome new guy! enjoy this great site

welcome.
and believe me, you say your going to stay with it for four months...but you'll end up keeping it for a while. these great people here make your phone more than just a PHONE.
good luck.
and READ BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
EDIT: i see youre already looking into flashing roms...

hey new guy!
I agree with what everyone's telling you, after you join this site, you probably won't be switching out as often..all this customization here would take you longer than 4 months a piece to try out haha

group hug
welcome to the forum new boy
have fun.....and enjoy your phone......and make it beter

Welcome from another newbie!
Welcome to the forums! This is a really great place to learn everything about your phone. It takes ages to read through everything (I'm still not finished! LOL) but it is so worth it. Hope you'll be keeping your phone for more than four months. I just recently sold my Hermes and I felt a little sad but I had it for about a year and a half and was just dying for the Touch Diamond.
Enjoy it here!

[PROJECT] Android for Touch Pro 2 "Let's make this happen"

I know there is another thread about Android for TP2 but it is a [poll] thread and 98% want it so let's make this happen! Together we WILL have Android on this great device!

I seriously want to be the first person on this thread to thank you guys for working on this. I cant wait to see what comes from this!
Subscribed! Will be checking in!

I'm waiting for the Android port too. Thanks to all those people working on it! Hopefully it will be done as soon as possible because I can't wait till I can run Linux on my Rhodium.

did i sell you that touchpro 2? dan from b-town?

Thank you guys in advance for your great efforts, and look forward running Android on my TP2

Can't wait.

Me 2!!!!!!!!!!!!1

really can't wait, would be awesome!

deviusdragger said:
did i sell you that touchpro 2? dan from b-town?
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What's up pimpin I was going to bring it back in already but might as well give it another week lol This with Android is going to be ill!

I love ANDROID
Cool stuff.....
I love Android
Props for starting the thread....
BUT....
I CANT STAND AMERICAN STREET SLANG!!!!
ITS DUMBING DOWN THE WORLD AS IT EATS IN EVERY TV SHOW AND RADIO BROADCAST!
Kids in London all walking around "word up pimpin'?"
Word UP PIMPING!!! PIM<PING!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean - pimps are a BAD part of society. They are only there because of the stupid laws that mean there is no such thing as a SAFE LEGAL sex worker.
But Android WILL ROCK!!!

id like to help but i havent programed in 6 years... and i kind of fail at using linux on my laptop. (so i use windows) i havent yet used android but i assume its alot better a os then winmobile... wm6.5 ect makes me wish i has symbion on my phone at times... just because of how laggy it is.

This thread is great, but could someone post a quick status update? Ideally, the first post should indicate a few main points so people don't have to read all of the chatter to find the basic info.
A few things that would be nice to have on post #1:
Overview of project
Status
Blocking issues
Help needed from community
(dare I say) ETA?

Is this just a wishful thread or is something really happening ?
+ for the project.

i agree with paulbram!!

For a fully working Android port to TP2 I would definitely donate some cash!
And probably more than me would do the same.

I just got my TP2 last week. Must say that i am liking. Anyways wanna give out a shout out to all my peeps, chuck up the deuce and to all them chicken heads out there, keep flapping your gums!
p.s. ^ that was just a joke. But hopefully we do get some developing going on with this badboy.

Please keep in mind those of us on CDMA networks!
Thanks!

TFW_Primus said:
Please keep in mind those of us on CDMA networks!!
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Here here. I'm brand new to this stuff for phones, but I have a ton of linux/windows experience and an HTC tp2 so if you need me to break (ok hopefully not) my (CDMA) phone testing something, I'm down.

Who is actually doing work on this? I mean, we can have a thread about this and talk all day, but if nobody works on it. Wish I had the knowledge to program this..

Not just a wishlist
this thread was started because the other 30 pages posted were on a poll thread...cr2 i think is to a point where he/she is now lab testing. i think the got dumps from both GSM & CDMA.anyway, i can't wait to get this port...

Is It OVER ???

hi guys, i am very much happy to see that there is so much of activity going on to strip down tattoo & install whatever ROM we want... but its also sad that its not successful....
to me, its very cluttered in this forum, there are so many threads about getting an entrance to tattoo from various sides so that we can cook its ROM.
just tell us how far you developers are from obtaining success for your hardwork ???? we all cant wait to install 2.1 on our cute little tatoo....
guys, give us the good news ASAP..... please....

getting the 2.1 on ur tattoo is no big deal, HTC most probably will release it sooner or later. the real challenge here is gaining root access to the tattoo in order to install some really useful applications. so far all paths that devs have tried have met roadblocks, hopefully some day an S-Off SPL will be made or acquired from somewhere which should help.

also i found this http://www.androlib.com/android.application.uk-co-neilandtheresa-instantroot2-qAmj.aspx i don't know how it works, nor do i know if it will work on the tattoo if some devs here could look into it and explain how it works and whether it will on the tattoo(considering that they haven't found a loophole in the current kernel yet) i guess it would be great.

is it so difficult to know how tattoo works & what all its loop holes are even after releasing source code ??? i must really appreciate the hard work of those guys who did bring out this tattoo... hats of to you guys... you have really made this little wizard a hard to crack one.... we all must appreciate...
does anyone here knows how to install 2.1 on my tattoo ??? i am more than happy if i know the steps to update to 2.1. i dont want to root this tattoo if it seems so difficult to do it... why crack our head for almost impossible thing ???
anyway, may be cyanogen has not developed any interest in developing custom ROMs for tatto... it looks strange to me either...
may be some high end hacker / tech freak who knows in & out of linux must lead us to the victory path. i dont know when that day comes.... waiting for that to happen ASAP with fingers crossed.....

manuvaidya said:
is it so difficult to know how tattoo works & what all its loop holes are even after releasing source code ???
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Simply yes. Having the sourcecode doesn't automaticaly mean it is easier to crack a system (that would be bad for Linux as a server operating system since it is opensource...)
manuvaidya said:
does anyone here knows how to install 2.1 on my tattoo ??? i am more than happy if i know the steps to update to 2.1. i dont want to root this tattoo if it seems so difficult to do it... why crack our head for almost impossible thing ???
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It actually looks like the tattoo has got a very clever security system that makes it impossible to flash roms on it that aren't officially signed by HTC. May be we will never be able to crack this wall. Beeing able to root the Tattoo might be the only option to flash custom roms on the tattoo in the future.
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anyway, may be cyanogen has not developed any interest in developing custom ROMs for tatto... it looks strange to me either...
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There is a big interest and I hope to see cyanogen on tattoo one day, but as you already read it looks like custom flashing depends on rooting. Might be that we will see 2.1 on tattoo in 2 weeks or never. An unsatisfying situation, I know!
manuvaidya said:
may be some high end hacker / tech freak who knows in & out of linux must lead us to the victory path. i dont know when that day comes.... waiting for that to happen ASAP with fingers crossed.....
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Some of them are even here but the combination of much work to be done and less time means all of you have to wait. And Linux was never ment to be a crackable system... ;-)
But crossing fingers is always a good idea.
Bastian

thanks for ur answers.... we are all in the same boat i guess....
but i got one question for you, how could the google nexus be rooted before its official launch ??? it is also android phone which means linux back bone suport it has got.... so we all know that tattoo got released much before the nexus. by rules, nexus should have tough security system & should have shown better resistance towards hacking, but its not the case anymore....
but why tattoo only is like that ... means so adamant to reverse engineering ??? i simply hate that... being free for all & open source, why in the hell you restrict the hardware/software options & make it difficult for all ?? anyway, we will pay for the applications which we like to use & moreover apss are not that expensive??? even then why do you do so ???
i am in the mood of selling my tattoo & getting either hero or nexus.... this is so rediculous.... definitely, may be because its cheap people are not putting enough hard work or not at all showing any interest in making this little nerd dance to our tunes.... this is so pathetic.... i hate this device..... i am selling it ASAP....

Heya.
The Nexus is open because Google decided so. It wasn't "hacked". All you have to do is use fastboot to unlock the device and then you can flash whatever you wish to it. The Tattoo doesn't have this option, like many devices before and after it, so we need to crack it, to root it and then we'll be able to flash whatever we wish to it. I'm 100% sure that the Tattoo will be rooted, maybe not today or tomorrow (and again, who knows) ?
I suggest you do what I did: enumerate why you need root or custom roms on this device. Is it really that important ? How long are you ready to wait for them ? If you need root and custom roms right now then my advice would be to sell your Tattoo and get a Nexus. If you can wait a little longer then let's see what's around the corner
Me, personally, I love the design of the Tattoo. Preety small and powerfull. My better half as a Hero but I still prefer the Tattoo. If I can get a custom rom on it, that would be interesting. If I can get root so I can mess with it, that would be very cool. If I can help other people to get root on it, that would make my day.
Regards,
mf3

I have only recently got my Tattoo and at the moment I am happy with it being debranded from Orange. I've not really played with it at all yet, so need to see what apps I need to put on it. Cooked roms would obviously be a bonus but happy so far.

People are working around the clock on rooting the HTC Tattoo. But, these hackers also have a real life too. Therefore, they can't spend 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year hacking full-time, they would need to eat, sleep, walk, run, swim and the like.
People need to understand this. No matter how hard it is, we'll succeed.
Personally, I love the HTC Tattoo. It's the best phone I ever had. Seeing a CyanogenMod port for the Tattoo once rooted would be epic. I'll be cooking ROMs when mine's rooted.
We need to be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. Sit back from the computer. Read our hacking stories in other threads. Absorb the knowledge others are sharing. Test out our exploits. Give your two cents on the handset. Give feedback. Enjoy the community.
Without people like the ones that are now in the Tattoo scene, the Tattoo would be dead in the water. Unloved and unwanted. IMO, I brought this because I thought the Dream was bulky and the Magic was limited. I was thinking of getting a Hero, but now, Tattoo is where I'll stay.
I hope what I said will encourage others to wait before they ask "IS IT OVER?". It's not, unless we raise the white flag.

Yea, I quote everything. There are lot of people working for us... testing and testing spending time and money (some people bought the tattoo just to root it) just to give us the chance to see something new on our cute little but powerfull device.
They are diehard and they don't give up if they couldnt root the tattoo... they continue to work on it...
so.... I think the best way is to give em help and another important thing is to say....
...oh thank you guys.... your work is really appreciated...
I think its the best way to encourage them !

ok, i will wait.... sorry if i have hurted anyone here... i saw several threads with different loop holes getting discovered every other day... hence i asked so.
please dont mis-understand me... i am also here to help you guys..... let me know what help i can offer here to help this little bomb to root....
i would be more than happy the day when it gets rooted just like many others.... hail tattoo.... hail the people who are working on it.... keep up the good work bros.... good luck..

Goodbye from the Coburn

Howdy all,
I've ordered a Motorola Droid and it'll be curtains for my HTC Tattoo Android development.
What does this mean? I'll still be an AzusaROM developer. However, I won't be hovering around the Click Android Development much any more.
To the other developers: Don't give up. Your work is awesome, and really shows what the Tattoo can do. HTC should learn from our ROMs, we don't want all the Sense UI gloss and crappy unoptimized kernels!
To my AzusaROM users: You are more than welcome to use AzusaROM as a starting base for your Android ROMs. Just add my credit line like "Based on AzusaROM by Coburn64" in the credits.
To my friends and foes: A big thank you for all your help and support over the period of time I've been a Tattoo developer. Keep on churning out those ROMs, make the Tattoo shine and burn out that NAND chip!
For now, I bid you farewell. If you see me around, say Hi... Hit me up on Twitter (it's in my sig) and we'll chat.
Take care and see ya,
Coburn.

Sad to see another one move away from the tattoo, but I can understand it. So I will stay here, waving with my tattoo and remember the good old times with mainfram3, you and the others that were involved in kicking HTC's ass the first time by finding a way to root our phones
Have a lot of fun with your new motorola!
-bm-
Sent from my HTC Tattoo using XDA App

I also find it sad that a very good ROM dev is leaving us - i also thought buying a Droid (in Germany it is named Milestone), but I moved away from these thoughts as I'll either buy a Samsung Galaxy S or wait until the Droid X will be coming to Europe hopefully
Anyway, thanks for your hard work and I hope that you will have anice time with your new toy
Regards

bye bye and good uck with your ner an-DROID!

Goodbye. This is sad I'm gonna have to buy another phone at some point...
Thanks for your work!

To Coburn64
Thank you, Coburn64 !!!!!

[Q] No cyanogen 7 ?

As you mayhave noticed the firstcm7 nightlies were released today. But not for DS.
Have we officially been discontinued now?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using XDA App

Well unless someone steps up to do the G1 work i do believe so. As you can see there is a CM7 for Hero, which runs on about the same specs, more Ram, but we have seen the AOSP Gingerbread builds running quite well on G1, so i guess CM could work too.

punshkin said:
As you mayhave noticed the firstcm7 nightlies were released today. But not for DS.
Have we officially been discontinued now?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using XDA App
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If I was you I'd very quickly and politely ask a mod to remove this thread because you have opened yourself up for the abuse this post so rightly deserves

shadowch31 said:
If I was you I'd very quickly and politely ask a mod to remove this thread because you have opened yourself up for the abuse this post so rightly deserves
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???
You need to think before you post. The OP's question was NOT in ANY WAY out of line.

I hope someone like ezterry can help the team.
or maybe someone can port the build to the g1 (from hero?), like for windows mobile devices(cm6 on htc touch pro,hd2,...).

dhkr123 said:
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You need to think before you post. The OP's question was NOT in ANY WAY out of line.
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*Le Sigh*
And I suppose going to the cm thread and reading the last few pages was just to hard a task before writing this ****?

still trolling xda i see...

shadowch31 said:
*Le Sigh*
And I suppose going to the cm thread and reading the last few pages was just to hard a task before writing this ****?
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You actually think that a bunch of random crap added into the end of that thread has any valid meaning?
How about you go ask CM himself... oh wait, somebody already has, and he said very specifically that it HAS NOT BEEN RULED OUT, it is just LOW PRIORITY.
Now personally, CM for Dream was never much good. Just way too much bloat for the hardware. Ezterry's work on the dream is much more interesting.

from cyanogenmod forum:
Sorry folks, end of the line on CM6 nightlies for DS; and I have yet to get confirmation of CM7 Nightlies for DS.
Will open new thread if it materializes.
Till then, thread closed
-Ciwrl
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I asked Cyanogen on Twitter and he replied "Its not off the table but its not high priority either" there is hope yet
To be honest it seems liek alot of devs get our donations, buy themselves a better device then forget about the people who donated..This isnt true with cyanogen though he has supported D/S since first cyanogenmod.But is with others it seems

No worries...
Someone will step up and lead the way out of the darkness for us.

ObsoleteSoldier said:
Someone will step up and lead the way out of the darkness for us.
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AMEN, AMEN

I believe very few are as intimate with the intricacies of the D/S subsystem as Cyanogen. Those that are intimate with it may not feel the need to keep this hardware going. I admit that I'm eternally grateful to all the ROM developers here for all their hard work. Stock G1 is boring as **** and feels so restricted. Ever since I got root on this phone a year+ ago and started flashing ROMs, I felt a huge weight lift off my shoulders as if I shed the chains of slavery or some **** lol.
Rock on devs!!
Rock on XDA for providing a hub for all this great stuff.
J

Atleast you guys get cm
Vibrant doesn't have anything yet
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Maybe it's about time you all upgrade devices!

Why is this in the android development section..

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Maybe it's about time you all upgrade devices!
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Yea ok for those who can afford it or want a brick sized smartphone..IMHO it isnt a smartphoen if it doesnt fit comfortably in your pocket.. i.e Iphone / desire

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Yea ok for those who can afford it or want a brick sized smartphone..IMHO it isnt a smartphoen if it doesnt fit comfortably in your pocket.. i.e Iphone / desire
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Well it kinda has been almost 3yrs since the G1 came out, its been officially discontinued and people are moving on...But it seems the G1's community just hasn't died yet, I came here to see if 2.3 was available and I was surprised to see the source for it was up. I was a bit hesitant to use 2.3 since 2.2 was really laggy for me, but I'm sure others are happy with 2.2/2.3. But it's good to see that devs are still supporting this device, I wish the slide's community was this active...I actually feel jealous

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Well it kinda has been almost 3yrs since the G1 came out, its been officially discontinued and people are moving on...
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True enough, although it has only been out for 2.5 years, and it was sold as recently as maybe 1.5 years ago. That means that people will have them under contract for a while longer yet. Plus, we're talking about expensive devices - people aren't necessarily going to want to upgrade them just for the heck of it (FYI - if anybody is upgrade eligible T-Mo has been giving away free-after-rebate G2s recently on their website).
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I was a bit hesitant to use 2.3 since 2.2 was really laggy for me
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Have you tried the new radio with the extra RAM? It makes a VERY big difference - my G1 is actually pretty decent running 2.2 with it.

I just replaced my MT3G with a HTC Desire (Bravo). I had so much fun, flashing and customising so thanks to everyone at XDA. I was a recieiver of all your hard work and I am thankful for your efforts.
Yeah, its a sad day for me, but all is not lost as I see that the DESIRE has a CM7 branch and some studious person(s) have worked out a way to get CWM running with full system access on the DESIRE. It will start again, but I will buy a new shell/keys for my MT3G, get it back to "new" looking and keep it, for it was the best phone I ever owned - Peter