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Hey guys i just had a few questions for the nexus one users out there..by the way i am finally giving in and deciding to buy a nexus one!! I waited and waited to see if there were going to be any better phones coming out, but for some reason the nexus one just calls my name, its a perfect phone.
Anyways my dad has current service with at&t (the $60 individual plan) and i am pretty sure he already completed his two year contract. I was thinking of adding a line to his account and purchase a nexus one to use with it. My question was if i were to buy the n1, would there need to be a requirement to establish a new contract?
Also in your personal opinions, is the n1 better on the at&t or t-mobile network?
Thanks i cant wait to get the phone!
jsnplus10 said:
if i were to buy the n1, would there need to be a requirement to establish a new contract?
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No. It's $529... then you just add the line to your service. The only time you would have to start a new contract with the phone is if you opt for the $179 deal through T-Mobile (AT&T doesn't have a deal like that).
Also in your personal opinions, is the n1 better on the at&t or t-mobile network?
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Depends on where you live and what you want.
T-Mobile is the only provider that allows you to have a smart phone on a non-contract plan without requiring you pay for a data package. So if you have steady access to WiFi, it really isn't worth paying extra for data, and using Google Voice for free unlimited texting means that T-Mobile is by far the cheapest non-contract option.
AT&T generally has better overall 3G/coverage nationwide (they certainly do where I live in Utah), but if you go non-contract with them, you still have to pay for data.
T-Mobile is rolling out HSPA+ all over the USA, and people are reporting 6-7mbps speeds. Check out androidforums.com/nexus-one
If I were you, and if data/3G was important, I'd check your local AT&T retailers and have them show you speed tests.
It seems in general ATT nexus users don't have signal issues like the t-mobile nexus users often have. But that's just a general observation. It all depends on your specific area.
Me personally, ATT will have stronger service cause ATT uses 850 and 1900 mhz, where t-mobile uses 1700/2100 mhz. So ATT's 850 is much stronger signal penetration and range. I think this is partially why t-mobile users get that flaky 3g issue. But also ATT 3g has a head start on coverage over t-mobile, so they will catch up eventually.
...and the nexus one would be subject to follow the new data usage rules for at&t right? I think its 250 mb for $15 and 2 gb for $25.
Hmm ok, i do want to go with the cheapest option here and it sounds like if i go ahead and try out t-mobile they will eventually upgrade to hspa+ network...
Does the upgraded network on t-mobile mean that current 3g phones (like the nexus one) would be able to use it?
current tmobile 3g phones (including N1) are already ready for the hspa+
i sell tmo and att (amongst other carriers) i also have both carriers. the high speeds you can get on the tmo hspa+ are nice, but inconsistent.
go AT&T. pay a little more, but have a far better network.
Get T-Mobile service if you can get 3G service where you are.
i would vote for at&t. one of my buddy's using t-mo, and as mentioned before inconsistent with their network
I am on AT&T and T-Mobile gave me a free phone with unlimited free service which I stopped using because the audio quality was horrible and people kept complaining how bad it sounded.
I vote AT&T.
if you travel, tmobile really doesnt work outside metro areas and highways. just food for thought. at&t works in more rural areas as well. I dont have any issues with my at&t nexus, dont know about the tmobile version. Mine is for sale if you are interested, I need the money towards importing a phone at retail. Pm me if you are interested.
Okay thanks for all the help!
Sorry for asking for fast help but I may be buying a (used, good shape) Nexxus One (via craigslist) and have an important question.
I have ATT wireless, the old, old "blue sim" ATT wireless (with a grandfathered plan I will not get rid of). Also added "unlimited mmode data plan in time before they cancelled unlimited plans (*this is not the iphone data plan).
I currently use a Nokia E51 (symbian s60v3, wifi, decent reception, works on 3G (and switches to Edge when 3G isn't avail).
I'm looking at a Nexxus One that is unlocked, currently on Tmobile.
Question is: will this nexus one work 100% (3g and edge) on my ATT account?
and/or - Is there anything I can do to make it work? (I'd like to buy it).
I'm just not sure a unlocked Tmobile nexus one is 100% compatible or will work on ATT (or can be made to work).
it's cost is making it risky so I came here in hopes of advice and help.
I hope this is the right forum section.
Any help here is appreciated and thank you very much
You will not get 3G. Only edge. T-Mobile and AT&T use different bands for 3G.
btw: here is a link to info on my Nokia E51 (GSM arena)
gsmarena.com/nokia_e51-2106.php
Am I correct in saying that nexus one has the same bands (3g/edge) as the E51 and should work well for an updated phone?
thanks
Like I said, it depends which Nexus one. The AT&T one will only give 3G on AT&T, and the TMobile one will only give 3G on Tmobile. You can't change it, no way to hack it. If you want 3G, you need the correct version for your network.
I see, and thanks for the reply. i was thinking there is a hack/workaround but there isn't apparently.
Now, is there a like phone which still would fullfill my ATT needs (blue sim plan, 3g/edge modes, wifi capable, etc that I should be looking at...essentially like the nexus one)?
What about the HTC Desire (or is this the sam scenario)?
* again, i just can't leave this grandfathered plan, and I'm not a big iphone fan (enough to make me switch plans that is).
thanks for any advice
I just received a reply from a user on the ATT forums (very well versed with my blue plan and mmode, GSM phones) who stated this...
The Nexus One would be your best choice if you want to use AT&T Mobility's 2G & 3G network (they use 850 & 1900 MHz for both).
Now in regard to this used, unlocked Tmobile nexus it may be unusable for me...
but based on his reply, he seems to be saying an (att) Nexus one should offer the 2g (edge) and 3g band features (which I need).
Are we sure about the 3g or edge but not both in regard to the nexus one?
* got my eye set on a att nexus one (really, first it was the HTC Desire - very similar, but the band support was the concern there with the Desire)
thanks
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. You are not listening. The Tmobile Nexus One will NOT give you 3G on AT&T.
BUT the AT&T Nexus One WILL give you 3G.
You just need to get the right one. You just need to buy the AT&T compatible Nexus One. Not the Tmobile one.
You need a Nexus One with the AT&T bands. They exist. I have one. A friend of mine is selling his in the CT area.
No, no...i'm listening, but likely not asking the question right.
I understand to get att 3g I need to get the ATT nexus one. Got it.
* And no, I will not be buying this tmobile nexus one thanks to your replies.
What I'm asking is in regard to 2g/edge ability here. Are you saying that a att nexus one will ONLY offer 3G and not offer any 2G/edge capability?
Others are saying it will also offer the 2G/edge capability as well as att's 3G (like with my E51 currently).
* see there are times when att 3G is unavil/spotty and the phone (E51 in my case) switches to 2G/edge. I just wanted to make sure the att nexus one offers this ability.
thanks
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You need a Nexus One with the AT&T bands. They exist. I have one. A friend of mine is selling his in the CT area.
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Can I inquire about this phone for sale somehow?
I was looking at this tmobile nexus one for $350, decent condition.
I'm very interested in buying an att nexus one (provided it's 100% working and condition isnt too bad).
thanks for replying guys!
jojoatt said:
No, no...i'm listening, but likely not asking the question right.
I understand to get att 3g I need to get the ATT nexus one. Got it.
* And no, I will not be buying this tmobile nexus one thanks to your replies.
What I'm asking is in regard to 2g/edge ability here. Are you saying that a att nexus one will ONLY offer 3G and not offer any 2G/edge capapbility?
Others are saying it will also offer the 2G/edge capability as well as att's 3G (like with my E51 currently).
* see there are times when att 3G is unavil/spotty and the phone (E51 in my case) switches to 2G/edge. I just wanted to make sure the att nexus one offers this ability.
thanks
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My Nexus One with AT&T bands works just like every other 3G AT&T phone. It works on both EDGE and 3G. If you look at the bands it has, there's no reason it wouldn't.
You need an AT&T banded N1 to get both 3G and EDGE.
If you get the T-Mobile version, you will ONLY GET EDGE on AT&T.
That's the difference: the 3G bands are different between the two, but the EDGE bands are the same.
jojoatt said:
Can I inquire about this phone for sale somehow?
I was looking at this tmobile nexus one for $350, decent condition.
I'm very interested in buying an att nexus one (provided it's 100% working and condition isnt too bad).
thanks for replying guys!
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You can email him at t4show at gmail dot com
It's only about a month old. He bought an iPhone 4. Yuck.
thank you, i sent him an email. hopefully it's still for sale.
btw: what about the HTC Desire? issues with this on my ATT network?
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire-3077.php
The desire does not have ATT 3g bands, so you will be stuck on edge. Recently they announced a usa desire which might come with proper 3g, but that phone does not yet exist. So no the desire won't work unless you just want edge.
well, your friend selling his att nexus one stopped replying so I have to assume he's either kept it or selling for a bit more on ebay/etc.
I can bid on a few on ebay that will likely end up being $500+ for slightly used, but can anyone tell me if I can still buy the att 3g version ffor $529 straight from google (as in if I order by this friday)?
or I should also ask: does anyone have an att verision nexus one they're selling?
I just purchased a rooted Nexus 1 from eBay. It came with Cyanogen 6.0 RC3. 5.08 radio. I noticed it was always displaying an E for edge signal. I went into the phone menu (*#*#4636#*#*) to set it to WCDMA Only. It then would not get a signal at all. I set signal back (WCDMA perfered) and Flashed Cyanogen ROM again with 4.06 Radio. I still get only EDGE. I have another Nexus 1 and it goes between H and 3G (HSPA is active in my area). Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this or how to fix?
One is AT&T band and another is T-Mobile band, perhaps?
No they r for T-Mobile. The problem is it only shows edge and never 3g like it should.
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Try flashing back to stock to see if it keeps doing that.
Did you check settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks "use only 2g networks" unchecked. I assume you did since you know the (*#*#4636#*#*) method, but maybe someone else will read this who needs it. If that doesn't work I would test an ATT sim card to clear my curiosity.
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Did you check settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks "use only 2g networks" unchecked. I assume you did since you know the (*#*#4636#*#*) method, but maybe someone else will read this who needs it. If that doesn't work I would test an ATT sim card to clear my curiosity.
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Yes I did check this. What will testing phone with ATT sim card do? Phone is advertised as unlocked and rooted. What am I missing?
For 3g, T-Mobile USA exclusively uses the AWS 1700/2100 MHz frequency-band, and ATT uses the 850/2100 MHz band, so a special batch of N1's were made for ATT with different hardware. If a friend's ATT sim card picks up a 3G signal, it means you can't pick up T-mobile usa.
You said the phone was advertised as unlocked and rooted. The thing to check would be to ask if the phone is compatible with ATT's 3G bands or T-mobile's 3g bands. "Unlocked for all GMS carriers" for example, only tells you that it works on all EDGE networks. I haven't seen a Nexus One that can run both 3G networks, but they may exist. (Was there anything in the ad specifically about the 3g bands?)
The ATT Nexus One is more rare, you may be able to sell or trade with someone in the marketplace here on xda or on the internet somewhere.
Sanity check: shut down the phone, take off your battery cover, remove the battery and tell us the FCC ID. It's in the second of three lines of text below where the barcodes are.
My AWS (T-Mobile) Nexus One says:
FCC ID: NM8PB99100
If you have the AT&T version it should say:
FCC ID: NM8PB99110
Note the single-digit difference. If you have the AT&T version you'll want to trade it with someone else who has the T-Mobile version in order to get 3G. If this is the case, you're in luck, because the AT&T version is discontinued and lots of people would be very happy to obtain one from you.
cmstlist said:
Sanity check: shut down the phone, take off your battery cover, remove the battery and tell us the FCC ID. It's in the second of three lines of text below where the barcodes are.
My AWS (T-Mobile) Nexus One says:
FCC ID: NM8PB99100
If you have the AT&T version it should say:
FCC ID: NM8PB99110
Note the single-digit difference. If you have the AT&T version you'll want to trade it with someone else who has the T-Mobile version in order to get 3G. If this is the case, you're in luck, because the AT&T version is discontinued and lots of people would be very happy to obtain one from you.
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Thanks for the information. You hit the nail on the head! The phone is marked as one of the early AT&T Unlocked models. I also had one of my friends put his AT&T card in the phone and it picked up 3g just fine. I spoke to seller of this phone on ebay and he said he would take item back. IS THERE ANY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM SO THAT PHONE WILL WORK ON T-MOBILE?
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Poseidon20 said:
IS THERE ANY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM SO THAT PHONE WILL WORK ON T-MOBILE?
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hmm...I don't think so.
Take it back to the seller or trade with someone
As many already stated in the thread (starting with me), you have AT&T Nexus, and there is NO WAY to make it work with T-Mobile. But, as also stated, you're lucky - lot of people will probably be happy to trade with you or buy it from you.
I just got a flawless AT&T Nexus One for next to nada $150 from a guy that heads up the IT department at a hospital, he had bought over a dozen f them and I mistakenly thought that since they were Google Nexus devices and since I had a "android data plan" and because I could make and receive calls and get on the web that all was good! What I didn't realize is that I'd be stuck on EDGE for good, they only real downside is that I cannot be on a call and surf the web at the same time, I'm just glad I got a pristine phone that's outta warranty, and running 2.3.6 (stock) and for only $150! Also I've always been a physical keyboard guy, so darn I get EDGE... I run the fastest web on my WEP encrypted network at home and hop on the VPN network at school, and now that the bastards at TMOB don't offer (unlimited) I really don't use alot of data anyways cause I don't goto social networking sites neways!
Any one wanting to trade a TMOB NEXUS ONE for a ATT NEXUS ONE??
Getting my GF a tablet and have kinda ruled out the Ipad because we both don't like Apple and iTunes. I;m experienced with Android and thats what I want to get her. I bought the NookColor and rooted it and all that, but it's going back. It's just not a viable solution for someone not too technical and wants to just pick something up and use it. Mainly because of the lacking hard buttons and no 3g is really the deal breaker now. The gTab seems perfect because of 3g and simple to use. I thought they were all the same until I started reading and it seems as if Tmobile is a bad idea unless you want unlimited data without a contract. So let me get to the needs: minimal data on a month to month plan. I prefer to pay out front and not be under contract. So which carriers Gtab is for her? Or should I wait for something else? BTW I don't like playing the waiting game because you just end up waiting and waiting. She's perfectly fine using a device for years where as I need the latest, greatest.
Thanks in advance.
http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2010/11/17/want-to-buy-a-samsung-galaxy-tab-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
I guess any of ATT or tmobile will be good. Because if u want to resale it (after few month ) you can unlock it and sell it on nice price and also gsm is acceptable in other countries too. can be used to make calls and receive calls too(dont know about sprint and verizon cdma tabs).
I guess tmobile plans are cheaper than att.
I have tmobile but i dont have data plan because i dont need it. I bought my on local craiglist.
For light no contract 3G, I think AT&T is the cheapest easy option at $15/mo.
The AT&T GT also has the "option" of easy unlocking, then getting a Tmo prepaid SIM and using Tmo's DayPass for $1.50/day, EDGE only, but for very light, day by day, its a cheap alternative.
NB you cannot do that with a Tmo GT since Tmo has blocked its own GT's from using the prepaid DayPass.
Another fringe idea is Sprint's GT, hacked to run on Boost Mobile, $0.35/day for data, but far more complicated to do the hacking.
Do not get the Verizon tab under any circumstances.
At&t will let you have the complete tab and phone experience. And it travels overseas better.
While I have and love the AT&T Tab, I'll throw a wrench in here and say that Spacemoose is going to bat for the CDMA Tabs with HC! I'd give the edge to GSM, but not a big deal as I use mine with Wi-Fi only.
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Do not get the Verizon tab under any circumstances.
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please amplify... why not?
- not GSM, no ROMs? no SIMs? no int'l usage?
- no 2.3.4 update unlike Sprint?
what else?
neurocutie said:
please amplify... why not?
- not GSM, no ROMs? no SIMs? no int'l usage?
- no 2.3.4 update unlike Sprint?
what else?
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- No GB upgrade -- and knowing VZ, it will be practically never when we get it
- CDMA generally behind the GSM curve in terms of carrier upgrades
- More development on the GSM front
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- No GB upgrade -- and knowing VZ, it will be practically never when we get it
- CDMA generally behind the GSM curve in terms of carrier upgrades
- More development on the GSM front
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Sure GSM tab is getting more ROMs, but the only official GB upgrade in the US now is Sprint CDMA and that works on Verizon's tab.
Hello,
I am going to be selling my N1 on ebay and I didn't want to misadvertise. I purchased my N1 off contract and used it on t-mobile. Does my phone support AT&T? And if someone on AT&T buys my phone will they get 3G service on it?
Thanks
The T-Mobile N1 can work on AT&T but only on Edge as they use a different 3G frequency not supported by the T-mobile hardware. There is a separate AT&T compatable model, but they are harder to come by.
So it would be silly for someone on att to get my phone?
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mgorman said:
So it would be silly for someone on att to get my phone?
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It all depends on how they want to use it. If they are wanting to use it as a dev phone for apps / ROMs etc..., then 3G is not as critical. If they are wanting to use it as their daily driver, then they may want something else.
As long as you state in the description that this is not compatable with AT&T 3G, you should be covered. How the buyer uses the purchase is up to them.
majority of people would say its crazy to buy a tmobile nexus one for ATT use as there would be no 3g. so yes its almost like false advertising. sure, it would work on edge. but just be up front about it.
Ok. Thanks for the input