there is a cell phone provider in canada.
not tmobile or att..
they claim to get fresh inventory of N1's
they claim that they will be locked to their network only and cannot be unlocked at all..
level one rep couldnt tell me what band they use-- just that phones will use their own 3G
they will sell phones outright but said that they are useless on another network..
what stock can i put in what i was told?
thanx
Most probably - 0 credibility.
A nexus one CANNOT be carrier-locked. End of story. No matter where you get your N1 from, it WILL come UNLOCKED.
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A nexus one CANNOT be carrier-locked. End of story. No matter where you get your N1 from, it WILL come UNLOCKED.
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thanx for the replies..
the provider is mobilicity.
i shouldve been more specific..
what about the 3G capabilities of buying their phone and using on usa tmobile or ATT?
thanx
MaximReapage said:
A nexus one CANNOT be carrier-locked. End of story. No matter where you get your N1 from, it WILL come UNLOCKED.
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You say that, but there are numerous reports of the French (SFR) N1's being carrier locked.
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You say that, but there are numerous reports of the French (SFR) N1's being carrier locked.
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And it's about 100th time you're writing this and failing to read the reply - that ALL the SFR Nexus that were checked, weren't carrier locked at all. People report what the sales reps tell them.
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what about the 3G capabilities of buying their phone and using on usa tmobile or ATT?
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It will be working on one of those. There are only 2 models of Nexus, one WILL work 3G with TMo, one WILL work 3G with AT&T. Nobody can change it without digging into HW and changing antennas, or at the very least changing the radio to restrict some of the communications - and nobody could get any of this done. HTC doesn't allow HW changes in their phones, and Qualcomm doesn't provide customized radio builds on demand (or at all).
Considering this, I believe the story of this carrier's rep has the same credibility as SIM lock of SFR Nexus - which is, 0.
im pretty sure they are going to videotron in Quebec. they use AWS.
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And it's about 100th time you're writing this and failing to read the reply - that ALL the SFR Nexus that were checked, weren't carrier locked at all. People report what the sales reps tell them.
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I've mentioned it twice that I can remember. Good news they're not locked, but like I said I was only commenting on what I read.
I shall not mention it again
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I've mentioned it twice that I can remember. Good news they're not locked, but like I said I was only commenting on what I read.
I shall not mention it again
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I wasn't serious about 100 times, either
But there were 2 reports on this forum from people that bought the phone, were told that it's locked, checked it and discovered it completely unlocked.
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It will be working on one of those. There are only 2 models of Nexus, one WILL work 3G with TMo, one WILL work 3G with AT&T. Nobody can change it without digging into HW and changing antennas, or at the very least changing the radio to restrict some of the communications - and nobody could get any of this done. HTC doesn't allow HW changes in their phones, and Qualcomm doesn't provide customized radio builds on demand (or at all).
Considering this, I believe the story of this carrier's rep has the same credibility as SIM lock of SFR Nexus - which is, 0.
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i know that we can tell from the numbers under the battery cover.. but a rep isnt going to know OR tell me if he did know...
how can we find out which usa carrier they will work on?
the rep said that the company is using their carrier lines from old sony ..
i completely didnt understand this at all..
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One way would be to find the carrier on this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
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One way would be to find the carrier on this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
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that answers it... perfect..
thank you
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i have a sim unlocked nexus one and i want to install new room or cooked room
so it will stay unlocked after new room installation .
thanx
There is no such thing as SIM-locked Nexus. It doesn't exist. Search next time.
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There is no such thing as SIM-locked Nexus. It doesn't exist. Search next time.
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thank you for your fast respond
i mean before it is for T-mobile ( contract )
and there is one shop unlocked for me to work on all mobile network
so when i will install the new room it will stay unlocked for all mobile networks
inside USA and outside .
thank you again
The shop just took your money.
It was never SIM locked. NEVER. EVER.
It would always work and will always work on any networks that it's compatible with (3G on 900/1700/2100 MHz bands).
It would never work and will never work on incompatible networks (3G on 850/1900).
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The shop just took your money.
It was never SIM locked. NEVER. EVER.
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thanx
so i will go and kill the shop gay
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There is no such thing as SIM-locked Nexus. It doesn't exist.
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Actually the French (SFR supplied) ones are, it's been reported numerous times.
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Search next time.
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Oh the irony
AFAIK, it has been reported multiple times as "advertised as SIM-locked", and everyone that actually bothered to check found it SIM-unlocked.
And the Nexus in question is T-Mo one, original FW. I happen to have one and know first hand it's not SIM locked and never was. Your point being?
Just because you pissed me off with search thing, read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739034&page=2
When you're done, please kindly shove your irony back. There is NO SIM LOCKED NEXUS IN EXISTENCE.
so guys i plan on flashing my s3 to cricket later today i bought the phone off ebay and dont want to risk calling sprint to get it reactivated and find out it was stolen. im going to follow this guide http://www.cricketusers.com/cdma-samsung-galaxy-s3/33485-%5Btutorial%5D-full-flash-verizon-sprint-samsung-galaxy-s3-cricket-talk-text-mms-internet.html
anyone have any luck with this yet? or anyone know a better guide? jw i dont want to try and go through with this and find out its not working.
lastly after i do this how do i get an actual cricket number and get it activated do i just call them?
Very brave...
Suggest you are in the wrong forum Sprint Cricket not here .
Haha xD idk it doesn't seem to tough I just wanted to know if anyone here was brave enough to do it
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Haha xD idk it doesn't seem to tough I just wanted to know if anyone here was brave enough to do it
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Nobody here is a sprint or cricket phone users this is the I9300 and I9305 forum .
Flashing sprint or cricket stuff will brick our phones and in the majority of cases we would have no network as we are not in North America
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Nobody here is a sprint or cricket phone users this is the I9300 and I9305 forum .
Flashing sprint or cricket stuff will brick our phones and in the majority of cases we would have no network as we are not in North America
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The tut says nothing about not being compatible with those models. Also you may not be from north america but how does that decide where everyone else Is from? Do explain, also the 19300 comes in sprint at&t and t-mobile please research before you reply to my thead
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please research before you reply to my thead
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Please read, this is for the GT9305 LTE international only...
We play cricket we don't use it :laugh:
Raistlin1158 said:
Please read, this is for the GT9305 LTE international only...
We play cricket we don't use it :laugh:
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Mt bad I didn't realize there was a difference between the i9305 and gt9305 sorry
No difference between them, but big difference between GT-I9305 and the American models (model numbers beginning with SCH or SGH). If you have an I9305, there is no way to flash it to a CDMA/3GPP2 network, such as Sprint or Cricket, as it's a GSM/3GPP phone. (3GPP and 3GPP2 are rival standards bodies, making deliberately incompatible standards.) CDMA requires completely different hardware from GSM.
If you have a Sprint or Verizon Galaxy S3 (both CDMA models), you can flash them to Cricket, but you should ask in the Sprint or Verizon forums, as we are not familiar with the CDMA Galaxy S3 versions.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda app-developers app
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so guys i plan on flashing my s3 to cricket later today i bought the phone off ebay and dont want to risk calling sprint to get it reactivated and find out it was stolen.
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Call Sprint (or whatever telecoms company you plan to use).
If the phone is not registered as stolen, then no problems.
If the phone is stolen, then report it to the police and eBay. You should get your money back via eBay and the thief will get nicked. It will stop the thief from selling anymore stolen phones via eBay - thus you are helping others.
I don't have insurance on my phone, so if it got stolen it would be at great expense to me. Also I have tracking software on mine, so I would be hunting the thief down.
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The tut says nothing about not being compatible with those models. Also you may not be from north america but how does that decide where everyone else Is from? Do explain, also the 19300 comes in sprint at&t and t-mobile please research before you reply to my thead
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Yes i agree it was extremely rude to think i actually know better than you . I was totality wrong flash anything you want .
JJEgan said:
Yes i agree it was extremely rude to think i actually know better than you . I was totality wrong flash anything you want .
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Gears177, Can you post pictures of your brick please :highfive:
Raistlin1158 said:
Gears177, Can you post pictures of your brick please :highfive:
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i ended up findind a professionall flasher on ebay decided to go that route ive already revived my s3 from a haed-brick once tho ;p
haha,next time i get a stolen phone,the first thing to do is to turn on the flight mode , connect it to pc and dump out all the files,then flash a new rom!
Sent from my GT-I9305
If I buy a bad IMEI Note 3 from eBay, can I still use it on AT&T? Is there any issue with buying such phone (apart from being at risk of it being stolen) ?
ajamils said:
If I buy a bad IMEI Note 3 from eBay, can I still use it on AT&T? Is there any issue with buying such phone (apart from being at risk of it being stolen) ?
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Yeah, don't. It means it is blacklisted by the carrier and all carriers until it is cleared. I read to do that is a hassle. Also, the only way to use it outside of that is to unlock it from the carrier and use it on a different network, but I think that's only doable through a Verizon Note 3. In short, don't waste your time or money.
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Yeah, don't. It means it is blacklisted by the carrier and all carriers until it is cleared. I read to do that is a hassle. Also, the only way to use it outside of that is to unlock it from the carrier and use it on a different network, but I think that's only doable through a Verizon Note 3. In short, don't waste your time or money.
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As far as I know Tmobile version can be unlocked as well and since I will be using it on AT&T, does it matter that it's blacklisted on Tmobile?
ajamils said:
As far as I know Tmobile version can be unlocked as well and since I will be using it on AT&T, does it matter that it's blacklisted on Tmobile?
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Yeah because T-Mobile and At&t are both gsm networks. Verizon is CDMA. The article I read in order to further assist you stated that it's easier to use a CDMA blacklisted phone on a gsm carrier. Not sure how, but yeah. Avoid it regardless. It's just stupid.
ya agree with opasha, avoid it. Tmobs and ATT share the same blacklist, and it's technically a felony to flash a new imei and an additional hassle. Only way to use it is on gsm networks, not on that blacklist (which also includes pre-pay and affiliates), which means out of the country for the most part.
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As far as I know Tmobile version can be unlocked as well and since I will be using it on AT&T, does it matter that it's blacklisted on Tmobile?
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Carriers share blacklisted IMEI's. They do it on CDMA networks as well. Your really off brand local carriers like MetroPCS may not block it though just because it's basically a mom and pop shop.
agent929 said:
Carriers share blacklisted IMEI's. They do it on CDMA networks as well. Your really off brand local carriers like MetroPCS may not block it though just because it's basically a mom and pop shop.
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Metro PCS is owned by T-mobile. Truthfully there aren't really any independent operators anymore.
As others have mentioned, IMEI blacklists are shared across US carriers now so you'd be better off avoiding the phone unless you plan on only using it internationally.
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Metro PCS is owned by T-mobile. Truthfully there aren't really any independent operators anymore.
As others have mentioned, IMEI blacklists are shared across US carriers now so you'd be better off avoiding the phone unless you plan on only using it internationally.
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Eh it was just an example. I don't know for sure what the little junk carriers are. It may be now to where it's shared with everybody. I know there's ESN checker websites out there and I'm sure these carriers have access to something even better than that.
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Eh it was just an example. I don't know for sure what the little junk carriers are. It may be now to where it's shared with everybody. I know there's ESN checker websites out there and I'm sure these carriers have access to something even better than that.
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Is there a reliable IMEI checker website? The IMEI number that a guy from CL gave me does not show up in Tmobile IMEI checker.
do you know anybody that has T-mobile because you could have them call the IMEI in to make sure
Att doesn't care if it's been black listed. I had a Friend on my account he stopped paying for the line I reported it stolen and he went the next day to get it activated. They even told him that it was reported stolen and still did it. I have heard that both t mobile and att do it all the time cuz they want the business.
infowars.com get the truth
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Is there a reliable IMEI checker website? The IMEI number that a guy from CL gave me does not show up in Tmobile IMEI checker.
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Even if you do check the IMEI and its good today doesn't mean it won't be blacklisted tomorrow.........
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Even if you do check the IMEI and its good today doesn't mean it won't be blacklisted tomorrow.........
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So what's the suggestion? Pay $700+ and buy brand new from Tmobile?
Sent from LG Optimus G Pro via Tapatalk.
ajamils said:
So what's the suggestion? Pay $700+ and buy brand new from Tmobile?
Sent from LG Optimus G Pro via Tapatalk.
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Yes or you can buy used but make sure you meet the person at the T-Mobile store to confirm the phone is paid off.
Been through this whole scam ordeal already so I went and bought a new phone straight from T-Mobile.
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Is there a reliable IMEI checker website? The IMEI number that a guy from CL gave me does not show up in Tmobile IMEI checker.
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You can call tmo yourself to verify the IMEI number and if it will activate.
T-Mobile and AT&T share blacklisted IMEI's? I'm not sure you guys are correct about this. You can buy blacklisted Nexus 4's all day long on Craigslist from deadbeat T-Mobile payment plans and put an AT&T sim card from AT&T or an AT&T based MVNO sim card in them and they work 100%. I have a T-Mobile no payment N4 I bought for $40 and use it with my Straight Talk AT&T sim regularly.
Unless something changed like this week, there is zero sharing among US carriers regarding their blacklist. The only people who MAY have incentive to share are T-Mobile and AT&T since they can have each others phone operate in some capacity on each other's networks. As for Sprint and Verizon, they don't share blacklists because their phones only work on their towers.
As for the comment of would I buy a phone for a considerable amount of money and hope they never in the future share black lists? Hell No. My upper limit on risking that is about $100. I'd say most of the phones on Craigslist anymore suffer from this problem of no payment on payment plans. Even when you get the phone and its working there's nothing to say that a carrier won't blacklist it in 2 weeks or a month. And trust me they won't do a darn thing, had this problem with a T989 S2 back in 2012.
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T-Mobile and AT&T share blacklisted IMEI's? I'm not sure you guys are correct about this. You can buy blacklisted Nexus 4's all day long on Craigslist from deadbeat T-Mobile payment plans and put an AT&T sim card from AT&T or an AT&T based MVNO sim card in them and they work 100%. I have a T-Mobile no payment N4 I bought for $40 and use it with my Straight Talk AT&T sim regularly.
Unless something changed like this week, there is zero sharing among US carriers regarding their blacklist. The only people who MAY have incentive to share are T-Mobile and AT&T since they can have each others phone operate in some capacity on each other's networks. As for Sprint and Verizon, they don't share blacklists because their phones only work on their towers.
As for the comment of would I buy a phone for a considerable amount of money and hope they never in the future share black lists? Hell No. My upper limit on risking that is about $100. I'd say most of the phones on Craigslist anymore suffer from this problem of no payment on payment plans. Even when you get the phone and its working there's nothing to say that a carrier won't blacklist it in 2 weeks or a month. And trust me they won't do a darn thing, had this problem with a T989 S2 back in 2012.
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Ya they do, sprint and verizon included. As to how efficient they are in updating their networks to reject imei's when the other network post a new one on the list, I don't know. Plenty of sources confirm it, here's one for example: http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/1/3584466/att-t-mobile-stolen-cellphone-database
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Ya they do, sprint and verizon included. As to how efficient they are in updating their networks to reject imei's when the other network post a new one on the list, I don't know. Plenty of sources confirm it, here's one for example: http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/1/3584466/att-t-mobile-stolen-cellphone-database
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http://www.ctia.org/media/press/body.cfm/prid/2220
Yeah this was announced in 2012. Now of course knowing US carriers - what they said they'd do and what they should do may be very different than what they actually do.
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If I buy a bad IMEI Note 3 from eBay, can I still use it on AT&T? Is there any issue with buying such phone (apart from being at risk of it being stolen) ?
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it wont work within the US, so if your going to try using it, it wont work.
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T-Mobile and AT&T share blacklisted IMEI's? I'm not sure you guys are correct about this. You can buy blacklisted Nexus 4's all day long on Craigslist from deadbeat T-Mobile payment plans and put an AT&T sim card from AT&T or an AT&T based MVNO sim card in them and they work 100%. I have a T-Mobile no payment N4 I bought for $40 and use it with my Straight Talk AT&T sim regularly.
Unless something changed like this week, there is zero sharing among US carriers regarding their blacklist. The only people who MAY have incentive to share are T-Mobile and AT&T since they can have each others phone operate in some capacity on each other's networks. As for Sprint and Verizon, they don't share blacklists because their phones only work on their towers.
As for the comment of would I buy a phone for a considerable amount of money and hope they never in the future share black lists? Hell No. My upper limit on risking that is about $100. I'd say most of the phones on Craigslist anymore suffer from this problem of no payment on payment plans. Even when you get the phone and its working there's nothing to say that a carrier won't blacklist it in 2 weeks or a month. And trust me they won't do a darn thing, had this problem with a T989 S2 back in 2012.
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I tried it, before it used to be cool, now it doesn't work
T Mobile Note 3 on ATT
I traded a guy an S4 plus some cash for a new T-Mobile note 3...I rooted and used region lock away to Sim unlock it...The phone has worked perfectly on ATT and it is blacklisted on T-Mobile for Non pay...I'm sure its was bought on the no contract deal and then as soon as they dumped it they just didn't pay...Its not stolen as I have checked...So it is possible to use them on ATT if the phone is unlocked...Not sure if eventually it won't work on ATT but for now it does..I guess if it stops working I will sell it or see if I can settle with T-mobile ...Just be very careful when buying them brand new in box..Note 3 and IPhone 5s are the 2 big ones that are being purchased on these pay 25-30 a month then don't pay..then Bam they are blacklisted for non pay on that network..Pretty sad but that is what's going down on CL right now...
I'm on T-Mobile, and would prefer to buy it from them because I can just pay it month by month or if I want, more each month. You guys get it.
Anyways, are the phones the exact same on the Google Play store and buying it straight from T-Mobile?
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I'm on T-Mobile, and would prefer to buy it from them because I can just pay it month by month or if I want, more each month. You guys get it.
Anyways, are the phones the exact same on the Google Play store and buying it straight from T-Mobile?
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Yep. Everything in the box is identical to the Play Store version except for the manual, which has a T-Mobile logo on it instead of the Nexus logo.
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Yep. Everything in the box is identical to the Play Store version except for the manual, which has a T-Mobile logo on it instead of the Nexus logo.
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Its also important to note that all review devices that were sent out were all T-Mobile versions due to the manual, insinuating that Google's main stock is likely indistinguishable from T-Mobile's stock of the N6 in terms of "differences" between. Also the head Product Manager at T-Mobile confirmed that there will be no carrier bloat or tampering with their stock of the N6.
Buying from T-Mobile is the safest carrier when it comes to Nexus devices. They have never tampered with Nexus devices before and its going to be the same for this Nexus.
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Its also important to note that all review devices that were sent out were all T-Mobile versions due to the manual, insinuating that Google's main stock is likely indistinguishable from T-Mobile's stock of the N6 in terms of "differences" between. Also the head Product Manager at T-Mobile confirmed that there will be no carrier bloat or tampering with their stock of the N6.
Buying from T-Mobile is the safest carrier when it comes to Nexus devices. They have never tampered with Nexus devices before and its going to be the same for this Nexus.
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This is great because we potentially walk into store and pick up the N6 earlier than Google play delivery. One thing I worry about is any difference in CID that may delay OTAs? Is it the consensus here that besides that piece of manual, the phones are identical?
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This is great because we potentially walk into store and pick up the N6 earlier than Google play delivery. One thing I worry about is any difference in CID that may delay OTAs? Is it the consensus here that besides that piece of manual, the phones are identical?
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The Nexus 5 I got from T-Mobile received the same exact updates and used the same exact software as the Play Store version. The only difference was the T-Mobile logo on the box, and with reviewers receiving a mix of carrier / unlocked devices when it comes to the Nexus 6 it looks like Google is treating them as identical as well.
So, is the N6 that T-Mobile sells unlocked just like the one they sell at the Play Store?
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So, is the N6 that T-Mobile sells unlocked just like the one they sell at the Play Store?
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You mean unlocked as in it can be used on multiple carriers and outside the country? Or unlocked as in the bootloader?
Because if its the former, YES. T-Mobile have sold Nexus devices under the guise of a "World Phone" before, stating that because its not locked by carrier or region it can be used with any Sim in any country depending if the service can support the radios the Nexus has.
If the latter is the question you mean, then technically YES. By default the Nexus devices have a locked bootloader, however its not secure and can be easily unlocked and rooted all the same. T-Mobile does not tamper with locking the bootloader on any of their devices and have not ever done so with the Nexus devices they have sold previously before. This just like previous Nexus hardware will be easy to unlock and root!
Anyone know if t-mobile will sell the white version of the N6?
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Anyone know if t-mobile will sell the white version of the N6?
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Not right now, Only Blue is being sold online and in store at release. Perhaps down the road they might sell the white version but right now they are focused on selling only the Blue.
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/google-nexus-6.html
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You mean unlocked as in it can be used on multiple carriers and outside the country? Or unlocked as in the bootloader?
Because if its the former, YES. T-Mobile have sold Nexus devices under the guise of a "World Phone" before, stating that because its not locked by carrier or region it can be used with any Sim in any country depending if the service can support the radios the Nexus has.
If the latter is the question you mean, then technically YES. By default the Nexus devices have a locked bootloader, however its not secure and can be easily unlocked and rooted all the same. T-Mobile does not tamper with locking the bootloader on any of their devices and have not ever done so with the Nexus devices they have sold previously before. This just like previous Nexus hardware will be easy to unlock and root!
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I meant unlocked as in carrier unlocked. I know Nexus devices are ridiculously easy to unlock and root.
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Yep. Everything in the box is identical to the Play Store version except for the manual, which has a T-Mobile logo on it instead of the Nexus logo.
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Maybe...maybe not...if everything was identical, really identical, why would this reviewer's retail packaging have "GPE" as in Google Play Edition appended to the end of the model #? Would Motorola really have a separate model # just due to the manual?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go10RfUMSRA&feature=youtu.be&t=6s
(screencap appears 6 seconds in)
People keep getting hardware confused with firmware. The HARDWARE is going to be the same, but until we actually see the phone at T-Mobile, there's no way to know whether it will have the same FIRMWARE. They could quite easily have their own custom firmware (that may be nothing more than added bloat). I'm not saying that this will happen, but it could, and anyone who comes on here and says that it is definitely 100% identical in every way is making an assumption. That assumption may turn out to be true, but at this point, it is still an assumption, not a fact. The same is true for all of the other carriers too. If T-Mobile ends up not having their own firmware, that doesn't absolutely prove that, say, Verizon wont.
Having said that, it's a good sign that some review units seemed to be T-Mobile units, without additional bloat. But keep in mind that often "Review" units are pre-release units, and may not be the same as the final product. So, it still doesn't PROVE that the final T-Mobile units won't have different firmware.
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People keep getting hardware confused with firmware. The HARDWARE is going to be the same, but until we actually see the phone at T-Mobile, there's no way to know whether it will have the same FIRMWARE. They could quite easily have their own custom firmware (that may be nothing more than added bloat). I'm not saying that this will happen, but it could, and anyone who comes on here and says that it is definitely 100% identical in every way is making an assumption. That assumption may turn out to be true, but at this point, it is still an assumption, not a fact. The same is true for all of the other carriers too. If T-Mobile ends up not having their own firmware, that doesn't absolutely prove that, say, Verizon wont.
Having said that, it's a good sign that some review units seemed to be T-Mobile units, without additional bloat. But keep in mind that often "Review" units are pre-release units, and may not be the same as the final product. So, it still doesn't PROVE that the final T-Mobile units won't have different firmware.
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From the mouth of the head Product Manager at T-Mobile.
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From the mouth of the head Product Manager at T-Mobile.
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Assuming that ends up being true, and they don't change their mind at the last minute (which would certainly be very unlike T-Mobile), then the OP question seems answered. That doesn't mean anything in regards to the other carriers yet, but the OP didn't ask about them.
Thanks for that, Dr Faustus.
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Assuming that ends up being true, and they don't change their mind at the last minute (which would certainly be very unlike T-Mobile), then the OP question seems answered. That doesn't mean anything in regards to the other carriers yet, but the OP didn't ask about them.
Thanks for that, Dr Faustus.
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If everything said in this thread is true, and the phone is unlocked, I should be able to walk into a t-mobile on launch day and purchase one to use on Verizon. Correct?
I know that this has been answered several different ways and everyone keeps saying same phone, but just confirming... lol I want to be sure.
Thanks!
amberkalvin said:
If everything said in this thread is true, and the phone is unlocked, I should be able to walk into a t-mobile on launch day and purchase one to use on Verizon. Correct?
I know that this has been answered several different ways and everyone keeps saying same phone, but just confirming... lol I want to be sure.
Thanks!
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The reason it's been answered so many different ways is that people are really just guessing, or assuming that the same hardware means it will work. The reality is a bit different though.
If you'd said you wanted to take it to AT&T, I'd say it'd almost certainly work, but Verizon, like other CDMA carriers, has been known in the past to whitelist IMEI numbers, and refuse to activate units not on that list. Units sent to that carrier, units sent out directly from the manufacturer (e.g. warranty replacements), and units sent to contractual partners (like the Play Store) are always added to the whitelist. This is why you can be virtually certain that Play Store units will work on Verizon. (Although, as the 2013 version of the Nexus 7 showed, it may take some time.) However, there is enough history to seriously question whether units sent to other carriers will be allowed.
In truth, we simply don't know, and there's NO WAY to know until someone tries it.
Well, I understand the logic behind that. Wouldn't that mean that since most if not all of the test phones sent out were tmobile phones, the video showing that one working on verizon posted by Droid Life prove that it should work.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/
Time will tell, I understand. I just want one so badly. I've never wanted to pay full retail for a phone so badly only to have it become unavailable immediately upon release.
The phone is unlocked unbranded and no bloat.
Why do people keep asking and debating and questioning?
@askdes has answered all this. If anybody would know, it would be him.
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amberkalvin said:
If everything said in this thread is true, and the phone is unlocked, I should be able to walk into a t-mobile on launch day and purchase one to use on Verizon. Correct?
I know that this has been answered several different ways and everyone keeps saying same phone, but just confirming... lol I want to be sure.
Thanks!
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Yes....and no.
It would work the same regardless of US Carrier as long as you have a working sim for that carrier to use in the N6.
BUT. And this is a pretty big BUT, T-Mobile stores have confirmed that they will NOT be selling the N6 straight out without contract. They will only sell the device with the intent of selling a plan/upgrade of current customers. Not an off contract purchase.
Dr Faustus said:
You mean unlocked as in it can be used on multiple carriers and outside the country? Or unlocked as in the bootloader?
Because if its the former, YES. T-Mobile have sold Nexus devices under the guise of a "World Phone" before, stating that because its not locked by carrier or region it can be used with any Sim in any country depending if the service can support the radios the Nexus has.
If the latter is the question you mean, then technically YES. By default the Nexus devices have a locked bootloader, however its not secure and can be easily unlocked and rooted all the same. T-Mobile does not tamper with locking the bootloader on any of their devices and have not ever done so with the Nexus devices they have sold previously before. This just like previous Nexus hardware will be easy to unlock and root!
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Small correction. T-Mo will lock bootloaders of Sony devices only.
Hello my friends i post this alongside actively searching for the solution, other day i bought a desire 510 a11_ul android 4.3 locked and branded to o2 (o2__01), i went on to sim-unlock the device with success and then the bootloader, all i get is emergency calls only, im so far lead to believe it has something to do with the ruu? i just want the thing working on 3uk, i need pointing in the right direction, any help will lessen my headache and wud be greatly appriaciated, Thank you
finch69 said:
Hello my friends i post this alongside actively searching for the solution, other day i bought a desire 510 a11_ul android 4.3 locked and branded to o2 (o2__01), i went on to sim-unlock the device with success and then the bootloader, all i get is emergency calls only, im so far lead to believe it has something to do with the ruu? i just want the thing working on 3uk, i need pointing in the right direction, any help will lessen my headache and wud be greatly appriaciated, Thank you
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First find out what your carriers settings are, like the APN settings. See if it's gsm cdma.. You can try going in the phones settings and checking them out open the dialing pad and *#*#4636#*#* and look around.
hi, thank you for your response, that menu was the first thing i tried lol, i put an o2 sim in and i got it to show the H symbol next to the signal bars which still had a cross on them, it also auto installed the apn settings other than that, no change
finch69 said:
hi, thank you for your response, that menu was the first thing i tried lol, i put an o2 sim in and i got it to show the H symbol next to the signal bars which still had a cross on them, it also auto installed the apn settings other than that, no change
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How did you sim unlock?
dip_spit said:
How did you sim unlock?
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I was wondering that same thing to.
dip_spit said:
How did you sim unlock?
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I guess he doesn't need us now lol.. You asked him to hard of a question haha.
MrMike2182 said:
I guess he doesn't need us now lol.. You asked him to hard of a question haha.
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Typical sh!t.
dip_spit said:
Typical sh!t.
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Yeah probably because he didn't have an answer to that question since he most likely lied lol.
oh did i mention this problem affects my net too, hence latr reply, i still do need your help, i sim unlocked for £6.99 from unlockingonline.com via code emailed to me, i foundf this site thru giff gaff site recommendation
finch69 said:
oh did i mention this problem affects my net too, hence latr reply, i still do need your help, i sim unlocked for £6.99 from unlockingonline.com via code emailed to me, i foundf this site thru giff gaff site recommendation
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You cannot unlock the SIM card with a code from anywhere online it doesn't work that way because number one the SIM card in these phones is only to allow the phone to get LTE internet speeds number two the MEID is how the phone gets service not just the SIM card cause you can remove the SIM card and the entire phone will still work just without LTE number three you can't insert another carriers SIM card and then have the phone ask you to enter the unlock code because the phone will never ask for that code when you put another SIM in there it will just say invalid SIM card and nothing else and number four, the phone is unlocked via uicc and has to be done on the carriers side not some unlocking websites code....
Wow I had no idea, what do I do from here then? Is Contacting o2 my only option?
finch69 said:
Wow I had no idea, what do I do from here then? Is Contacting o2 my only option?
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I thought you said you did it already?
I've not contacted o2 yet , I thought my unlock was legit
finch69 said:
Hello my friends i post this alongside actively searching for the solution, other day i bought a desire 510 a11_ul android 4.3 locked and branded to o2 (o2__01), i went on to sim-unlock the device with success and then the bootloader, all i get is emergency calls only, im so far lead to believe it has something to do with the ruu? i just want the thing working on 3uk, i need pointing in the right direction, any help will lessen my headache and wud be greatly appriaciated, Thank you
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Well you said you sim unlocked it with success in this first post of yours right here and that's why both me and @dip_spit asked how you did that, you didn't say it wasn't legit then.
dip_spit said:
Typical sh!t.
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Do you think he successfully sim unlocked his phone bro?!
MrMike2182 said:
Do you think he successfully sim unlocked his phone bro?!
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No. Because many people have gotten the unlock codes and not a single person can find a way for the phone to ask for it. Of course he IS in Europe and their rules are different there so he may have, who knows.
Sorry it takes so long to reply I still have this problem I'm goin to email the site
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Sorry it takes so long to reply I still have this problem I'm goin to email the site
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And you are expecting the "site" to do what exactly?
Why don't you just take your phone to your carrier and have them program it to use their services?!?!
MrMike2182 said:
And you are expecting the "site" to do what exactly?
Why don't you just take your phone to your carrier and have them program it to use their services?!?!
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It could be a legitimate unlocking site that he used and expected it to work with his 510 (which they probably don't say that they don't support it), in which case he can probably convince them to refund his money.
Or it could be a scam site, in which case he'll have to do a charge-back or something to get his money back.
Also, he could take it to his current carrier but given the evidence of previous users, they won't unlock and program it for their network because the likelihood of them being able to is slim to none.
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It could be a legitimate unlocking site that he used and expected it to work with his 510 (which they probably don't say that they don't support it), in which case he can probably convince them to refund his money.
Or it could be a scam site, in which case he'll have to do a charge-back or something to get his money back.
Also, he could take it to his current carrier but given the evidence of previous users, they won't unlock and program it for their network because the likelihood of them being able to is slim to none.
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It seems like he's screwed then. I unfortunately don't know how or what settings to use to help him with the issue. He did say "should I contact o2?" So I asummed he could contact them I guess.