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I used Rom Manager from the market and it makes flashing a new rom so easy. It creates backups, wipes and installs all with the push of a button. Makes jumping from one Rom to another and restoring completely simple, the purchased version even dleds roms for you.
On the contrary
It works great except when you want to just upgrade from one rom to another without deleting data. It gives you the option of "wipe data and cache", which is pretty much like doing a factory wipe. If I choose not to do this, and just install the rom, it doesn't install properly anyway. I have to go through recovery (nandroid) and do it all manually to get it done right. If they had an option for "wipe cache and davlik" when installing a ROM, then I would most certainly say the paid version is worth it. Does anybody else have this problem with the ROM Manager?
There's really not much RomManager does that you cant just do with Terminal Emulator...plus Terminal does much more. I just dont see the need for having both. Especially since the 'finding Rom's' perk of RomManager isnt so great with the aria. Its no secret our little phone only has a couple of choices for decent Roms at the moment.
The whole point of the rom manager (in my opinion) is to allow for ease of use. As for using terminal emulator vs. rom manager, I don't see how it would be easeir to do this that way. As far as being more useful I can't think of anything I would need to do with termal emulator that I wouldn't do through say, ADB, or nandroid. Also, with terminal emulator vs nandroid, nandroid is more of a GUI I would say(point and click).
So really here we have 2 conversations: ease of use, and usefulness.
I do notice that any time a new nightly comes out, I get notified, so that is pretty nice to just have it installed for that purpose and at least downloading without more than a couple taps. I then reboot into recovery and backup, wipe cache/davlik and install. Also, the "finding roms" part seems to work fine for me as it shows the 2 most recent stable Roms.
hello, anyone knows how to fairly simple one of how to install debian on android 2.2?
tutorials for previous versions do not work in this
it doesn't work because 2.2 doesn't have a real apps2sd (aka apps2ext) by default. just apps2sd (fat). you can try a rom that has apps2ext enabled by default, or try running firerat's apps2ext script then installing debian. but not sure if that will work.
Introducing...
Darktremor Apps2SD 2.7.5.3 Beta 04
Date of Release: January 29, 2011
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Instructions - Change Log - Commands - ROM List - Developer's Guide
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Update on Beta 4
It seems I'm getting mixed results with these betas. I'm not sure why this is occurring, some people have been able to get this working right while others have had a hard time with it.
Currently, I'm rebuilding the entire program. This takes a while because I have to figure out how to pack all these options into the program but make it small enough to where it will run correctly.
I will say that some of the beta features are coming back out...one of them is the search for a partition code. I suspect that code may be leading me into issues with certain platforms, so I'm going back to the 2.7.5.2 method of mounting (mmcblk0p2 or mmcblk1p2).
Also, parts of the code will use Busybox Ash (the only code that won't will be starta2sd, which will still use Bash for the time being). The startup code will definitely use Busybox Ash.
Until then, here are the links to the the last two betas and the last official release:
Version 2.7.5.3 Beta 04 - http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip
Version 2.7.5.3 Beta 03 - http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta03-signed.zip
Version 2.7.5.2-1 - http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.2-1-signed.zip
And, if you want past versions, you can view the repository: ftp://dtuser:[email protected] (ignore the smiley face...that's XDA doing that.)
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Beta 04 took longer than I expected to release. I have done major changes to the code:
1. New commands: convert-ext4 - This will convert your EXT3 partition into EXT4. Just a friendly reminder on this command: Not every rom supports EXT4, so it is possible to go into a boot loop if you switch roms. Use with caution.
2. Reworked convert-ext3 (convert-ext4 gets similar code)...now a flag file is set before the reboot (no conversion is done before the reboot). At load time, the conversion is performed. This takes longer in the reboot process and you may think your phone has locked up...wait about five minutes before doing anything with the phone.
3. Repair is rebuilt...now it uses existing commands to repair the setup (reinstall, remove, cachesd, cachepart, nocache, datasd, nodata). Definitely shrinks the code.
4. Added fix_permissions program to the package. This may help with Superuser issues when using the datasd feature. It is used in reinstall, remove, datasd and nodata.
5. a2sd install is back!!! Both a2sd install and a2sd reinstall do the exact same thing.
6. Dalvik heap code has been shrunk and now creates a file called dalvikheap. Actually, the code has been doing this all along (since about 2.7.5.2, I think), but I never put the code in to use the file.
7. Low Memory Killer code has also been shrunk and uses a file caled dtset_lowmem to set the low memory killer parameter.
8. Replaced Busybox PS function with Toolbox PS. The issue with Busybox PS is that it gives a false reading when I look for android.process.acore (which is the main program when the GUI starts up). If that is present, the program thinks you are trying to run Darktremor without any command line parameters. This was because Busybox would report the process was there when, in reality, it wasn't (validated this when my phone was boot looping.) Toolbox's PS reports the correct setting. This should fix the bootlooping issues some people are experiencing.
9. New commands: usedtbusybox and usedefaultbusybox - these commands may help in diagnosing issues that is may be related to the native Busybox on your rom. a2sd usedtbusybox will use the Busybox that is packaged with Darktremor. a2sd usedefaultbusybox will turn back on the scan behavior of the program introduced in Beta 03.
10. Support for Darktremor Apps2SD version 2.7 and earlier has been discontinued. To upgrade correctly from one of those versions, use version 2.7.5.3 Beta 03b or earlier.
11. Finally fixed stalled boot issues (or at least my tests with several roms says so.)
See the change log for additional details.
You will notice that if the program runs repair and finds a problem, it will correct the issue and reboot. You will see a second reboot when the dalvik-cache clears (this is to fix timing issues with CyanogenMod...I can't control that startup as well as I can other roms). This only happens if repair is ran or you flash a new rom (as repair will realign all data). If you are upgrading from a previous version of Darktremor, you should not see the reboots.
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This is Darktremor Apps2SD, a multipurpose program that primarily allows a user to execute applications created for the Android OS on their Secure Digital card (with the proper setup...more on that later). But, Darktremor Apps2SD is all about stability. The goal is to be able for all users of the Android OS to be able to take advantage of a method to run their applications from a secure digital card.
But just because the Darktremor Apps2SD is all about stability, doesn't mean it isn't packed with features:
- Move applications (both free and paid) to the Secure Digital card.
- Move Dalvik Cache to run either from your Secure Digital card or from your cache partition and clears the cache on demand.
- Boot Loop Protection: prevents the phone from boot looping in the event the SD card could not be mounted.
- Dalvik JIT for faster performance on Roms which support it.
- User selectable sizes for the Dalvik heap sizes, allowing a user to freely optimize their system.
- Activate a swap partition on your SD card and sets how often the swap partition is utilized.
- Automatically fixes configuration issues.
- Users can check the free space on their SD card and check the installation to make sure all is setup correctly.
- Runs ZipAlign on demand...this makes your programs load faster.
- Built in help system for easy reference of commands.
- All features can also be reversed without repartitioning your Secure Digital card.
- New logging features assists in troubleshooting issues.
- Commands to set the Low Memory Killer feature at boot time. Great for those people who are the "set it and forget it" type.
- And more...
Darktremor Apps2SD is not the same as Froyo Apps2SD. Froyo Apps2SD creates a secure folder on the FAT32 section of your SD card (this is the section that you see when you mount your phone to your computer) and stores the programs there. This is nice as you don't have to do anything special with the phone, but it isn't backwards compatible with older versions of Android (Cupcake, Donut, Eclair) and, because of the way Froyo works, older programs not designed for Froyo will automatically stay on your internal storage (unless you install a program that forces the move to your SD card).
Darktremor Apps2SD takes a different approach. Based on the original CyanogenMod works, Darktremor Apps2SD uses symbolic linking to force Android into moving your applications to the SD card. Because Android will not allow anything to be ran from the FAT32 partition on your SD card (and, in Froyo, it will only allow you to run programs from a special folder), Darktremor utilizes filesystems called EXT2, EXT3 and EXT4. Each one of these filesystems is native to Linux (the operating system running Android), which allows you to run programs from them (same as, say, a computer running Ubuntu). This method is completely compatible with all versions of Android, including Froyo. In fact, you can run both the Darktremor Apps2SD and Froyo Apps2SD at the same time.
Check out the list of Roms that either have Darktremor Apps2SD installed or are compatible with Darktremor Apps2SD. Click on the link labeled ROM List at the top of this message.
Very nice m8,
i'm using it on my CM7 Build #0, with much apps i have 156MB free..
cool man sounds orsum will have to add this to my new rom
Would you say this is better than the normal Froyo App2sd? is it any faster at loading the apps one the sd card loading from **** drive mode?
Froyo app2sd sucks, this one is heaps better as apps are stored on ext partition, so you save way more internal phone memory. And yea its fast.
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nice to se you here tkirton
but i would love to see you @ ZTE blade forum to
will use your app in those roms
I have now installed this, how do i know apps are being moved to the sd card?
I would love to for those roms. I'll have to look at the roms. Unfortunately, I don't have a ZTE Blade, but I don't own most of these phones that Darktremor works on (I only have a Sprint Hero and a Sprint Evo).
The more roms, the better.
danne_jo said:
nice to se you here tkirton
but i would love to see you @ ZTE blade forum to
will use your app in those roms
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Run a2sd check. That will check the configuration and tell you if everything is setup correctly.
-Howad- said:
I have now installed this, how do i know apps are being moved to the sd card?
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You can also just start "Titanium Backup" and check memory in the main screen
I installed Darktremor app2sd on Modaco custom rom (Froyo), and must say its excelent, I got internal memmory of 160 mb free, and now with 100 apps installed have 155 mb free. My ext3 partition is 512 mb and Dalvik cache is on ext3. With zipalign phone work well, no issues about stability, widgets work normal (its not case with Froyo a2sd).
Thanks Tkirton for this.
bump---new version available.
is there something what i have to do before installation?
i already have 2.7.5.2 .. or just install from new zip file?
anything before or after? (cahesd or smtg.)
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is there something what i have to do before installation?
i already have 2.7.5.2 .. or just install from new zip file?
anything before or after? (cahesd or smtg.)
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I want to know about that too. Can we flash the new version on top of the original one? Will it harm the installed apps?
"a2sd help" moves apps to phone???
"a2sd cachesdreset" doesn't seem to work???
how to instal it? i instaled it on 2.3 codegen from recovery chosing zip i downloaded and now everyting doesnt work in my phone. all programs are messed... i dont understand. now i need to reinstal new rom? because i lost a lot of programs and all widgets cant load.
Just flash on top of it.
rudyshy said:
is there something what i have to do before installation?
i already have 2.7.5.2 .. or just install from new zip file?
anything before or after? (cahesd or smtg.)
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Download the 03a version...the Help issue is described on the first message.
Type a2sd reinstall to put the apps back on the phone.
As for a2sd cachesdreset, I will look into it.
UPDATE: I see the issue with a2sd cachesdreset. I'll issue an update shortly. In the meantime, use a2sd cachesd and, if you want to reset the cache, type a2sd resetcache
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"a2sd help" moves apps to phone???
"a2sd cachesdreset" doesn't seem to work???
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Describe the steps that you went through in installing it, including any commands you ran after the install.
vilks said:
how to instal it? i instaled it on 2.3 codegen from recovery chosing zip i downloaded and now everyting doesnt work in my phone. all programs are messed... i dont understand. now i need to reinstal new rom? because i lost a lot of programs and all widgets cant load.
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Download the 03a version...the Help issue is described on the first message.
Type a2sd reinstall to put the apps back on the phone.
As for a2sd cachesdreset, I will look into it.
UPDATE: I see the issue with a2sd cachesdreset. I'll issue an update shortly. In the meantime, use a2sd cachesd and, if you want to reset the cache, type a2sd resetcache
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Ah good I was starting to doubt my phone's installation, good to know it's a bug...
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Hi all.
I installed the xposed framework to take advantage of the available modules. The framework seems to be installed correctly, but none of the modules I tried (after enabling and rebooting) works on my tablet. I uninstalled it and installed the latest stable version and added only one simple module (from which the attached log refers to) but still no luck.
I have a Vivitar XO tablet running 4.1.1, with what seems not to be the original rom (or at least, the original launcher and "environment" has been removed). It has only one storage partition (the storage tab in settings shows only sd card with the full capacity of the tablet, 4GB, and no internal storage). The installer app is installed in /storage/sdcard0/Android/data/de.robv.android.xposed.installer.
So, my questions are...
1 - Is my tablet incompatible with xposed and I should forget about it?
2 - I don't have the /data/xposed folder. Is that expected with the recent versions?
3 - Should I try to reinstall the framework using another method?
4 - Could it just be incompatibility with the modules I tried? If so, is there any module known to be fully compatible so I can test it?
Thanks a lot, any help appreciated
The framework seems to be installed and working correctly, looks like you're just trying incompatible modules.
/data/xposed isn't created/needed anymore.
I can't recommend one that's universally compatible, though.
First of all i highly recommend you update your phone to latest version of Flyme as of day i write this guide newest stable version is 7.0.0.0G. It brings various bug fixes as well as security update and new functions. It fixed the weather problem too when it would not appear on secondary screen. This is my experience based on the standard model with Helio P25 chip.
JUST IN CASE BACKUP ALL OF YOUR DATA FIRST
Grab it at http://www.flymeos.com/firmwarelist?modelId=88&type=1
Installation is pretty straightforward:
-switch off your phone
-now press volume up button and power button at same time, then release power button when meizu logo appears
-phone now will enter update mode, connect it to pc and it should show up as removable drive named recovery, copy the update.zip over it
-once copied tap the start button to begin. the process itself and first boot will take a while
-when done and phone boots up just log in to your accounts and set up everything as normal or whatever
ta-dah ! you should be running latest software now.
Next problem i've encountered was big number of unwanted apps and you will need working ADB for that. I've always used custom roms which did not contain bloatware. Now im giving you one of the way of disabling them (not permanent removal).
For this to be done you need to activate developer mode and usb debugging, simply go to settings->about phone->and now tap on your build number several times
After you activate it it will be available in accessibility options under developer settings. just check the usb debugging and you're good to go
DISCLAIMER: dont ask me about adb drivers for your phone, since i had issues installing them under win 10 x64 build 1803 i thought "aw f*ck it" and just did it on linux where everything worked out of the box.
The application you will need is called Ice Box (you will find it here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox&hl=en_US) and install it.
After you install the app its necessary that you remove ALL of your accounts including your Google account. We will need to grant the app device owner permission. Also if multi-user or guest mode has been set on your device, it need to be closed or deleted.
When you have that done just type in your command line , terminal or whatever "adb shell dpm set-device-owner com.catchingnow.icebox/.receiver.DPMReceiver "
Now reboot and add your accounts back, and disable/freeze uwanted apps.
Last - the night mode. As its no longer availble in Flyme 7 if you want to use it you need to manually bring it back by installing Flyme Lab and enabling it trough quickshortcutmanager. Install both apps, then open quickshortcutmanager and search for Flyme Lab. expand it and choose the activity named com.meizu.flymelab/com.meizu.flymelab.component.nightmode.NightModeSettingsActivity .Create shortcut and open it. You should be able to enter the night mode.
Nice guides, thanks.
It's also nice that Flyme 7 still supports rooting, therefore I'm using Titanium Backup to freeze unwanted apps. I bought it when I was using another phone so, for me, it's still worth it. Altough, for uninstalling system apps I'm using separate ADB commands for each app.
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Nice guides, thanks.
It's also nice that Flyme 7 still supports rooting, therefore I'm using Titanium Backup to freeze unwanted apps. I bought it when I was using another phone so, for me, it's still worth it. Altough, for uninstalling system apps I'm using separate ADB commands for each app.
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Its first time for me writing a guide so good word is always appreciated. What im trying to show here is the no root way of getting rid of apps for ppl like me who dont want to root their phone. As i bought it literally two days ago and i dont want to mess with it too much and loose warranty or/and OTA updates.
I also been considering posting a root guide once i tried it myself to confirm it working.
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Its first time for me writing a guide so good word is always appreciated. What im trying to show here is the no root way of getting rid of apps for ppl like me who dont want to root their phone. As i bought it literally two days ago and i dont want to mess with it too much and loose warranty or/and OTA updates.
I also been considering posting a root guide once i tried it myself to confirm it working.
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Well, before I discovered a rooting method for Flyme 7, I used to uninstall apps by using ADB commands. So, yes, it is possible to remove unwanted system apps without root. But now, after rooting Flyme 7, I'm only using Titanium Backup to freeze unwanted system apps, not removing them.
As far as I know, rooting Meizu phones by the official method (from Settings) does not lead to losing warranty. Only OTA updates are lost, but this is not important, at least to me, because I can always check Flyme website for new updates and, if I want to update, I just download the file and flash it through standard Flyme recovery. There is no need, for me, to maintain OTA capability. Anyhow, Flyme updates are slow to non-existent, so we can't really complain about losing an update.
Thank you all. I'm happy with this phone at all, but software has few shortcomings and design flaws, in my opinion. Especially related to the integration with "flyme login" and Touchpal. This last one is very annoying because although I try to stop it, at each software update it comes back, more annoying than ever. So, I have some questions: which is the adb command to stop and freeze bloatware without rooting? Which is the official way to root the phone? Once rooted, is it possible to revert to the unrooted state? Some apps, actually, do not work on rooted phones. Thanks
pask876 said:
Thank you all. I'm happy with this phone at all, but software has few shortcomings and design flaws, in my opinion. Especially related to the integration with "flyme login" and Touchpal. This last one is very annoying because although I try to stop it, at each software update it comes back, more annoying than ever. So, I have some questions: which is the adb command to stop and freeze bloatware without rooting? Which is the official way to root the phone? Once rooted, is it possible to revert to the unrooted state? Some apps, actually, do not work on rooted phones. Thanks
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I can't freeze (or disable) apps with ADB commands, only uninstall.
You need [email protected], App Inspector or similar (to find exact name of package for an app) and these commands:
adb devices
adb shell
pm uninstall -k --user 0 name_of_package
Example, for gmail:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.gm
Regarding rooting, as far as I know, the only method that works on Pro 7 / Pro 7 Plus is also supported by Meizu (but it breaks OTA updates).
The method is described in this video (in russian) but it's quite easy.
If you want to remove root (or if root breaks functionality) you have to reflash the same ROM from Recovery (without wipe).
Any air update coming soon? Or manually installation single option?