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Charging issues

I have a tilt that now will charge from the USB to computer connection, but does not charge when plugged into the wall with my wall charger (an after-market charger that worked fine until today). The phone says "charging" but actually loses battery power .. and after a while the orange charging light goes off.
Any thoughts -- sure is a drag to have to charge my phone through the laptop.

What after market wall charger do you have? Does it use the USB cord to charge? I'm assuming that you plug the USB cord into the wall charger and then into your phone. If so this will not work. The USB cable is only capable of trickle charging. If you are doing anything while it is charging over USB you will use power faster than the trickle charger can provide. You have to charge it with a wall charger that does NOT use the USB cable.
Yes I realize that the standard wall charger uses a mini-USB plug but the internals of the cable are not the same as a data USB cable. The difference in juice it can provide is like comparing a PVC pipe to straw.

I was just using a radio shack iGo charger with a usb tip ... it worked fine until my latest ROM upgrade.

Ahh I see. Yep the charger is most likely bad.

Cannot charge with wall outlet

Recently my X1 cannot be charged with USB cable through wall outlet & even car charger , but able to charge with USB cable through PC.
Anyone do encounter the same problem?

Well that's a strange one - how long was it connected to the wall?
Without getting into the discussion about volts and amps provided, and amps drawn by the phone, any method should charge.
In terms of speed, I would think the wall would charge fastest (see above), and the USB slowest.
Did the phone show on the top bar, the charging icon when attached to the wall? Or after a period of time there was no increment in the % charge showing??
If the battery was down to 0%, you probably wouldn't see an immediate increase in the % charge. The % charge is orientative, especially at both ends of the scale.

paul c said:
Well that's a strange one - how long was it connected to the wall?
Without getting into the discussion about volts and amps provided, and amps drawn by the phone, any method should charge.
In terms of speed, I would think the wall would charge fastest (see above), and the USB slowest.
Did the phone show on the top bar, the charging icon when attached to the wall? Or after a period of time there was no increment in the % charge showing??
If the battery was down to 0%, you probably wouldn't see an immediate increase in the % charge. The % charge is orientative, especially at both ends of the scale.
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I do agree with you. Charging with wall outlet is faster. Therefore, normally I'm charging my X1 with wall outlet, unless in office, will use PC USB.
Top bar never show charging icon, but once I charge it with PC USB, the charging icon show up immediately.
It seems like no power for the USB when connected to the wall outlet. I've tested with battery removed, plugged in USB cable connected to wall outlet, there is no charging illumination light. I cannot power on it.
I tried to recall, it happened after I used a USB charger for my MP3 player. The next day, when I tried to charge with car charger. To my surprise, the USB connection notification showed up (I do remember, while charging with wall outlet or car charger, it will never prompt me for USB connection).

I don't think, it is the ROM issue. Try a few ROM still having the same problem.
From now, I got to live with PC USB :|

X1 Charging problem
I have same problem. I can not charge via both USB-PC and Wall. In order to charge the phone, I have to switch it off and then charge it.
This happened after I used CHEAP car charger from dealexteme.com
Now everytime I want to charge my phone, I have to switch it off.

torquefever said:
I have same problem. I can not charge via both USB-PC and Wall. In order to charge the phone, I have to switch it off and then charge it.
This happened after I used CHEAP car charger from dealexteme.com
Now everytime I want to charge my phone, I have to switch it off.
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let's me try with power off charging with wall outlet

well thats why se said USE only original accessories...you need to change the power ic on the board.

donottouch said:
well thats why se said USE only original accessories...you need to change the power ic on the board.
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will the SE service centre entertain changing 'power ic'?

make sure your charger have an out put minimum is 1.Ah ,if lest than that it will not work , that is the troublem

nguyennghiep said:
make sure your charger have an out put minimum is 1.Ah ,if lest than that it will not work , that is the troublem
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I'm using the original SE charger!? I would not think the problem with the charger, but my X1 was screwed by the incompatible MP3 USB charger

Yep same with me, not sure why mine started doing that though, I never got used a cheap charger. Maybe its the rom... I am trying a new one now.
torquefever said:
I have same problem. I can not charge via both USB-PC and Wall. In order to charge the phone, I have to switch it off and then charge it.
This happened after I used CHEAP car charger from dealexteme.com
Now everytime I want to charge my phone, I have to switch it off.
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digitalspree said:
Yep same with me, not sure why mine started doing that though, I never got used a cheap charger. Maybe its the rom... I am trying a new one now.
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it's not caused by the ROM, I'm very sure. I've installed different ROM. The problem still exist.

I am having a similar problem. When the phone completely discharges , i am unable to charge it with any power adapter or even car charger. I have to initially charge the phone using a PC , then after the power is around 15% , then the phone gets charged with a normal adapter.. any suggestions??

same problem. It happends when the battery is completely discharged.
what I do is use a charger w/ low amp rating (.1) and plug it in for at least 10-20min. Give it some time, it will start charging after a while (indicated by the blinking lights). After that, you can turn it on and charge it normally

I had a similar problem twice.Both times I solved it by replacing the charger.

the same happen to me and i have another issue
my xperia doesnt work as usb mass storage!!!
the solution was buying another charger but..the usb mass storage issue still not working as a flash drive!!

luirhy said:
same problem. It happends when the battery is completely discharged.
what I do is use a charger w/ low amp rating (.1) and plug it in for at least 10-20min. Give it some time, it will start charging after a while (indicated by the blinking lights). After that, you can turn it on and charge it normally
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It works with Z1 too. Thanks a lot!
I guess something goes wrong with battery controller

[Q] Whats With Charging This Thing?

When I first got the phone earlier this week, I could plug it into the charger in the wall just fine with no issues, it would just charge. Now suddenly it started telling me USB connected and goes to the MTP screen and of course locks up the phone.
I can of course bypass this by switching the phone to mass storage mode, but since I have Kies and use it occasionally, it would be nice to not have to switch that setting each time depending on my charging/syncing situation.
Why would it have not locked it up with the MTP screen originally when charging from the wall but now it does? The results are the same whether its plugged into the wall or the USB port on the computer. I have two Captivates bought brand new on a family plan, both do this now with any combination of chargers and USB cables, wall USB port, or car charger. Neither one has a common application installed since the other is my girlfriends who hasnt done much to it yet, so Im blaming the phone itself for now...
~T.J.

Interesting. I just checked with my BB charger and they dont do it using that charger, but they do it as soon as I connect the stock charger again.
Im wondering if its a voltage sensing circuit thats tripping due to the different voltages which should be applied - either wall charger or USB port. Maybe for some reason my wall chargers arent putting out enough voltage and its thinking its a USB port, but the BB charger is putting the right amount of voltage out?
Am I on base as to how it differentiates between wall or USB port? The number of pins obviously doesnt matter as all the cables have all the pins in them, unlike some charger cables which only have the power and ground. The only thing I can think of is that it uses the amount of voltage/current to tell the difference and create its reaction.
~T.J.

Sounds like a problem with the stock charger, maybe usb cable alignment. My iphone wall adapter does this with the samsung cable but the samsung wall adapter doesn't, same with my car charger from att. Also I have a $5 walmart car charger that has a cable that splits into both a mini usb and a micro usb that isn't a real usb cable, it's charge only. That cable has no problem on any wall or car adapter. I believe the phone detects if its connected by checking voltage on a data pin (just a guess really) so if a nonstock charger is used it assumes that it is a computer. But it may also be a data signal that is given off by the charger.
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did you try a new charger and if so, did it work? I've had my captivate since Thursday and on Thursday it charged and everything fine, but then yesterday,
a) no computer I connect it to while recognize it, no matter what I have it set too and have latest drivers installed
b) if I charge it, after I unplug it, it locks up to black screen and I have to remove the battery to get it to work
c) I also have an in-dash touchscreen monitor in my car that has a usb port because it works with an ipod. I plugged the usb into to use it as a car charger, unplugged it, same thing
d) it did say usb connected after it was unplugged, but I switched from mass storage to ask on connection and it went away
so is an actual wall charger the solution?
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and now I unplug it, and if it locks, it will not unlock, just black screen
I have to take out the battery and then only way to get it to turn back on, is to plug it back in the wall
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^^^Ouch that's not right, if you can't figure it out you may need to re-flash or just bring it back under warranty, or insurance
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Charger specs

I'm looking for an extra charger for my nc. What I need to know is what is the mah output of the stock changer so I can get one that had the same rating. Our can someone link me to a cheap stock charger.

The output is 5volts / 1.9 Amperes.
Edit, it is written on the charger btw, you could probably have checked that your self .

Where can I get a charger with the same specs? I don't want to spend $20 but if I have to I will just buy another stock one.
I have a 5v 700mah charger that I bought for my phone. Will that work or is the rating to low?

That will work, it just wont charge as fast...
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FYI: I tried using my HTC usb charger with the nook usb cable and it will not charge. The charging light flickers.

Thats what I'm worried about

There is this cable from boxwave with a dongle off the end that you are supposed to use to charge from USB chargers. Why would anyone need this?
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dir...arge-cable-barnes-_-noble-nook-color_4101.htm
Mike

nrune said:
There is this cable from boxwave with a dongle off the end that you are supposed to use to charge from USB chargers. Why would anyone need this?
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dir...arge-cable-barnes-_-noble-nook-color_4101.htm
Mike
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It looks like one end is for transferring data only and the other is for charging only

I just tried the charger I have that works with my phone and it wont charge my NC. When I plug it in nothing happens it doesn't even recognize its plugged in

boxwave.com/products/wallcharger-direct/barnes-_-noble-nook-color-wall-charger-direct_4101.htm
That looks like it will do the job perfectly and is only $13

xxosynrgoxx said:
FYI: I tried using my HTC usb charger with the nook usb cable and it will not charge. The charging light flickers.
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It is charging, just not as fast and the device doesn't notify you of it. HTC usb wall plug chargers are usually 5volts and 1amp, the nook requires 1.9 amps to charge properly.
/mr

There are no spec listed for that charger so it could be a 700mah or it could be a 1.9a charger.

How many of you guys recommending underpowered chargers actually have any electronics background?

The nook charges when connected to a usb socket on a computer, which provides 500ma as a high power device. So your 1000ma charger is twice as good as using a computer.
In order to get 1900 ma, the nook isn't using stock usb stuff in the charger... but normal usb works just fine because, well, the standard requires it to...
4000 mAh battery should charge fully in 2 hours on the nook charger, 4 hours on the htc charger, or 8 hours on a computer...
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Good to note that there's a bug on the NC that makes it appear that it's not charging, when connected via USB connection, but it really does charge.

regular micro usb chargers from cell phones will charge the nook even when it says it's not charging.

Novarider said:
I just tried the charger I have that works with my phone and it wont charge my NC. When I plug it in nothing happens it doesn't even recognize its plugged in
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The NC will charge from my Droid's power adaptor even though it does not show it to be working. It will take a lot longer to charge with a standard 0.5A USB power adaptor.

In theory, it should take about 4 times as long to charge from standard USB instead of the B&N charger.

Novarider said:
I just tried the charger I have that works with my phone and it wont charge my NC. When I plug it in nothing happens it doesn't even recognize its plugged in
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It does work. It's just charging slow so you can't necessarily tell. Also. There will be no indicators on the nook to show that it is charging but i'm pretty sure it is. Leave it plugged in overnight and see.

2A rated USB adapter for under $10: http://www.madvapes.com/2-amp-AC-to-USB-Adapter-ideal-for-Passthroughs_p_2357.html
I own one and can confirm it works perfectly.

Make non-motorola charger work?

So this is my first motorola and I had heard of the issues they have with non motorola chargers. Now I am experiencing it first hand. With the same ac charger I have charged many phones with and is capable of 1 amp output (D4 charger is only rated at 850 mA) my D4 struggles. With the device off it charged painfully slowly. While on it cannot even charge. It discharges while plugged in despite the charging indicator and reporting "charging (AC)" in status.
How does it know it is not a moto charger? Is it just about the resistance between the data pins? For most other phones shorting the data pins on the charger indicates to the phone that it is a high current charger and not a computer USB port. Is there a similar trick for motorola phones? I would rather not have to purchase an overpriced moto oem car charger. I have a perfectly fine 1.2 amp car charger soldered directly into my car's 12v system behind the dash. Can I make it work?
Thanks!

On a regular basis I successfully charge my D4 using both a charger from a Samsung Reality feature phone and from a B&N Nook Simple Touch, in addition to the one that came with it. I've also used a variety of car chargers.
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Actually, so far I have only one charger that had any trouble charging the phone (it was a $3 charger with 2 USB ports), but the $3 charger with ONE USB port works fine, as does the Nook Color charger, Blackberry charger, and Samsung charger I have tried it with, as well as both my old car charger and Lenovo's always-on charging port on their laptops.

JKingDev said:
So this is my first motorola and I had heard of the issues they have with non motorola chargers. Now I am experiencing it first hand. With the same ac charger I have charged many phones with and is capable of 1 amp output (D4 charger is only rated at 850 mA) my D4 struggles. With the device off it charged painfully slowly. While on it cannot even charge. It discharges while plugged in despite the charging indicator and reporting "charging (AC)" in status.
How does it know it is not a moto charger? Is it just about the resistance between the data pins? For most other phones shorting the data pins on the charger indicates to the phone that it is a high current charger and not a computer USB port. Is there a similar trick for motorola phones? I would rather not have to purchase an overpriced moto oem car charger. I have a perfectly fine 1.2 amp car charger soldered directly into my car's 12v system behind the dash. Can I make it work?
Thanks!
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Not sure how it knows one way or the other. I've successfully used a few LG chargers to charge my D4. The only really hickup I've ran into is the usb cables from those lg chargers won't sync data to the phones when plugged into a computer, they'll still charge off the usb port but won't read as a usb connection to the computer.

Heh, captcha is trynply.
Every charger I've used, including an old charger for an EN-V, kindle, supplied, and various other phone chargers works just fine with this phone. Probably have a bad charger, guy.

Thanks for the replies. I guess I was wrong. My modded car charger works just fine. I guess its just time to retire the old charger that I have been using. I think it might be my old nexus one charger.

A more important question would be does the thing charge over computer-bound USB ports?
When you're without a charger, but there's a USB cable that fits your phone, sometimes a regular USB data port is the only that is around... even though it might take a really long time.
Try a computer bound USB port, then try your actual charger, again. Or do the hard reset (vol down plus power, hold until it actually does it), which is just like pulling the battery.
See how that goes.
Chris

RueTheDayTrebek said:
A more important question would be does the thing charge over computer-bound USB ports?
When you're without a charger, but there's a USB cable that fits your phone, sometimes a regular USB data port is the only that is around... even though it might take a really long time.
Try a computer bound USB port, then try your actual charger, again. Or do the hard reset (vol down plus power, hold until it actually does it), which is just like pulling the battery.
See how that goes.
Chris
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It does in fact charge via USB port. In fact, it has a 'charge only' mode. Depending on how much juice your port puts out, and what you are doing with the phone, it will charge slowly/not at all, though.

from my experiences, the droid 4 will not accept lg microusb cables, the charging bricks work tho. i use a blackberry microusb on mine along with a Logitech and the stock moto ones. 1.2 amps is a bit high but not crazy sounding. personally, I charge at 1 amp.