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Linux on Trinity

Who are interested to see Linux also on this device?
The process should be very similar to Hermes implementation, so we can follow their steps.

Interesting

is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?

kimusan said:
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
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answering myself: yes it is, which means that I am in! I would love to help with the investigation for getting linux on this device. Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.

kimusan said:
Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
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Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?

cr2 said:
Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
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What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this? As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.

kimusan said:
What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this?
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http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
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Do you have a link ?

cr2 said:
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
Do you have a link ?
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It is in one (or more) of the threads in the trinity forum here at xdadevelopers. I do not have the direct links here, but have seen them recently. it is most likely in oone of the "GPS or not GPS" threads.

I have now registered the HTC Trinity/P3600

Very
interesting

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Do you have a link ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285090
See first attachment, Mainboard.zip contains front and back pictures of Trinity's mainboard, with all chipsets.

Look here for the schemes:
http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/
page 2 and 3.

How is the state of art in porting linux on this device?
And on Hermes? Does the kernel boot?
With wm6 do you have to hard reset every time you try to boot the kernel?
Maybe Pof can answer these questions.
Thanks

@renatostore: cr2 and Kevin2 are the guys working on it, come into #htc-linux at freenode irc network.
On hermes the kernel boots, and we can load a minimal initrd using haret. On trinity i haven't checked lastly.
You don't need to hard reset afer booting linux, that was only on WM2003

Hi
How about linux on trinity? i've been on the irc channel but didn't get any answer... a few months passed... i'm in hope!

I don't have high hope on that. Heard it's very difficult to debug stuff in Linux due to the lack of a hardware kb....

why do you want linux on this phone? you are not going to be able to cross-compile apps over and I don't see a useful app in linux that wm6 doesn't have already for a phone.

Hi...
Still interested...
Had someexperience with h36xx and h38xx/h39xx series HP/Compaq PDA's and familiar linux, and it would be very cool to have some of this running on the HTC hardware too...
Anyone already had a ROM cooked up with kernel/basic apps?
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
Thanks!

bkortleven said:
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
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Check the hermes wiki.
trinity is the hermes without keyboard, minor differences are unimportant

The future of Linux on PDAs is Andromeda. Don't expect this to be implemented on existing devices - Andromeda will be a means to deliver new devices to the market.
While you will most likely need a new phone for Andromeda, you will gain a complete platform with stylish and working applications, so you will be able to actually use the device right from the start.
Have fun!

OFFICIAL HTC ROM With GPS?

When a rom like this will be available, and will it ever be available?
Does anyone here have certified information by HTC?
Of course beside the "facts" writen in Wiki page about 5th of the month...
Nadavi.

yes- and where would we download this ROM? When will the P3600 ship with this already loaded for us nuffies who dont want to brick the pda/phone?
Now if only the phone had a fm radio as well...

With Windows Mobile 6 (I heard Crossbow is going to be sixth WM) just around the corner, I hope HTC stuff that into the next ROM, along with the GPS, possible FM radio and better-use of the ATI chip.

could i get xbox360 emulator for the Trinity ??
ROTFL

I am told the new ROM will increase available memory to 1GB so that Vista can be installed on the Trinity.

anonimo said:
I am told the new ROM will increase available memory to 1GB so that Vista can be installed on the Trinity.
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This is a mock for sure
Cheers

fluke said:
This is a mock for sure
Cheers
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Really? Oh what a disappointment!

wishmaster82 said:
could i get xbox360 emulator for the Trinity ??
ROTFL
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ROTFL You don't have the xbox360 ROM on your trinity yet? I already run the xbox 720 ROM, Windows Vista 2012 and the latest ATI 3D HD SUPERFLUXCONUCTOR GPU on mine. But now the phone itself is no longer working :-(

enlite_de said:
ROTFL You don't have the xbox360 ROM on your trinity yet? I already run the xbox 720 ROM, Windows Vista 2012 and the latest ATI 3D HD SUPERFLUXCONUCTOR GPU on mine. But now the phone itself is no longer working :-(
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Dont worry about, use the display as a drumpad.

@wishmaster82
No... but you might get USB host instead

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Really? Oh what a disappointment!
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Of course it´s only for XP
Cheers

Would you guys quit posting threads with subjects like this?
I mean, how would you like it if I started posting threads called "AMAZING NEW WAY TO DOUBLE BATTERY LIFE?" and inside it was "Hay guys, any ideas how to do this?"
Just give it another week and we'll have our damn GPS.

Well, assuming that HTC is REALLY going to post new ROMs, and assuming that HTC is REALLY going to enable GPS support in the new ROM.
Btw, any chance of getting them to enable the FM Radio while they are still in the generous mood?

alvinlim28 said:
Well, assuming that HTC is REALLY going to post new ROMs, and assuming that HTC is REALLY going to enable GPS support in the new ROM.
Btw, any chance of getting them to enable the FM Radio while they are still in the generous mood?
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I really have my doubts, first i want to have and test it and then see what this rom will bring, fm radio not sure but i really want gps and USB host.
Cheers

Remember: when you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U and ME.

Short test of the HTC P3600 GPS performances (enabled GPS ROM).
http://www.gpsandco.com/articles/article.php?cat=article_pda&id=386&p=1
http://www.gpsandco.com/articles/article.php?cat=article_pda&id=386&p=2
http://www.gpsandco.com/articles/article.php?cat=article_pda&id=386&p=3

Cyrus Kourosh said:
Short test of the HTC P3600 GPS performances (enabled GPS ROM).
http://www.gpsandco.com/articles/article.php?cat=article_pda&id=386&p=1
http://www.gpsandco.com/articles/article.php?cat=article_pda&id=386&p=2
http://www.gpsandco.com/articles/article.php?cat=article_pda&id=386&p=3
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these tests were made with a romanian rom?!!! any info about the version of this rom, if it is a test version or shipped?

romanian ROM? how did you get to this idea? I didn't see any mention of the ROM used for tests.

[email protected] said:
these tests were made with a romanian rom?!!! any info about the version of this rom, if it is a test version or shipped?
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Sorry... I forgot to tell that the test is made in Paris, France (French language web site)
But, there is no details about the ROM... However, they mentionned that the tested ROM, includes a test version of TomTom Navigator.
The article, mainly compare the performances between the Glofiish X500 and HTC P3600 GPS devices (see the pictures of article 2).

mihaig said:
romanian ROM? how did you get to this idea? I didn't see any mention of the ROM used for tests.
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i don't understand french and i used google translator, and it translated ROM as ROMANIAN... lol
sorry guys

I would like to buy a XDA IIi

Hello all.
Now I'm using a SPV C600,I like PDA very much.so I am aimed at the XDA IIi,because it's powerful hardware.
But it can't upgrade to WM6
If have many software for the WM2003SE?
if the 'OS' also powerful as it's hardware?
so powerful a ppc,why have no wm6 rom ....

Massive package for Sale
Can someone advice if this auction is a nice one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=250220724244&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=015
Thanks
Sidd

Any ideas guys???

Yeah, It can't be upgraded but It's great for reading & GPS stuffs cause of its big screen?
kingzd said:
Hello all.
Now I'm using a SPV C600,I like PDA very much.so I am aimed at the XDA IIi,because it's powerful hardware.
But it can't upgrade to WM6
If have many software for the WM2003SE?
if the 'OS' also powerful as it's hardware?
so powerful a ppc,why have no wm6 rom ....
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Actually £107.00 but Reserve not met... How much it could be at ending?
Well, for my personal use : a gps receiver & bluetooth headset (or better A2DP helmet?) enough.
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Any ideas guys???
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Kaiser support for Device Update.

Hi all,
After finishing off v2 of Device Update for the Hermes, I'm looking at making it more compatible with other devices. The next on my list is the Kaiser
Could I get a few people to message me to try a new version of Device Update that should work correctly (and not show Hermes only apps) on the Kaiser.
For those wondering what Device Update is, check out:
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470440
Thanks.
EDIT: I've had someone test it on Kaiser and all should be well...
That being said, I've attached v2.0.7.8 to this post for all of you to test

Havent heard of it till now, but looks great. Bring it on! (to the kaiser I mean )
Also what makes this much different than App2Date? (asking because I know someone will at some point)

shadowline said:
Havent heard of it till now, but looks great. Bring it on! (to the kaiser I mean )
Also what makes this much different than App2Date? (asking because I know someone will at some point)
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Lots.
#1 - I do the hosting for your apps. I've served nearly 800 apps in the last 6 hours or so.
#2 - People can browse the index of software.
#3 - Automatic updates is only a side effect - but a major bonus.
#4 - Custom written geo-location based mirroring gives the user the fastest speeds no matter where they are on the planet
#5 - everything between the servers & clients is compressed - this means faster transfers and less data transfer.
And there's probably more

So when is this going to be avail?????

Nice one mate.
Count me in for a bit of testing
Feel free to shout me for anything you need.
Thanks
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Nice one mate.
Count me in for a bit of testing
Feel free to shout me for anything you need.
Thanks
Dave
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Mate! I didn't know you had a Kaiser...
The build is just about ready, I'm just putting some final touches on it today. I should have something for you guys in about 5 hours or so...
I'll send you both a build via PM to test...

CRCinAU said:
Mate! I didn't know you had a Kaiser...
The build is just about ready, I'm just putting some final touches on it today. I should have something for you guys in about 5 hours or so...
I'll send you both a build via PM to test...
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Kewl, I'll be in bed in 5hr's but I'll get testing as soon as I can
Dave

CRCinAU said:
Mate! I didn't know you had a Kaiser...
The build is just about ready, I'm just putting some final touches on it today. I should have something for you guys in about 5 hours or so...
I'll send you both a build via PM to test...
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I will stay up and wait

CRCinAU said:
Hi all,
After finishing off v2 of Device Update for the Hermes, I'm looking at making it more compatible with other devices. The next on my list is the Kaiser
Could I get a few people to message me to try a new version of Device Update that should work correctly (and not show Hermes only apps) on the Kaiser.
For those wondering what Device Update is, check out:
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470440
Thanks.
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I am more than interested in testing this! Awesome work, friend.

I'm here if you need another tester

For those interested, I've attached a copy of v2.0.7.8 as a beta test on the Kaiser.
In theory all should work. If not, please reply to this thread.
Thanks

CRCinAU said:
For those interested, I've attached a copy of v2.0.7.8 as a beta test on the Kaiser.
In theory all should work. If not, please reply to this thread.
Thanks
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Installed here and all is working just great Nice work

smokestack76 said:
Installed here and all is working just great Nice work
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Awesome - good to hear.
I'm in the middle of writing some documents for ROM cooks and developers on how everything works within DU so it can be included in peoples ROMs and also how people can make their CABs DU compatible...
Hopefully I'll be able to get something finalised real soon. DU has pretty much become standard in all ROMs for Hermes

works like a champ on my tilt....Great job on this app! Does this also tell what you already have installed and can update that?

Knumb said:
works like a champ on my tilt....Great job on this app! Does this also tell what you already have installed and can update that?
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Yes and no. All packages installed via DeviceUpdate will show if an update is available. You will see this as a category up the top labeled "Available Updates". We don't however have a way of tracking if an application is installed from another source - as we use registry entries to track packages.
This means it is possible to see an app on the Device Update index that is already installed from a different source. At the moment, we leave this up to the user to detect.

thanks for the response. You did a great job on this app!

Only thing i cant figure out is where the themes go when i download them...or are they not m2d themes? Only one i downloaded was the flat black theme and for the life of me i cant find it. I just got it to test that it worked as well. Ive already got over 20 themes so i dont need it But i even used the search on the phone and cant find it.

The themes are standard Windows Mobile themes - not M2D themes.

Ok cool. Im sure thats why it didnt work then. So i cant find any bugs. Great job. If you want you can pull the themes from my 4shared folder. They are all m2d

Fantastic application.
I was using this in my HTC Touch (ELF) before.
I just bought a Kaiser (TYTN II) and installed the latest Device Update into it.
Tried installing "HTC Home Customizer" and a few other apps but evertime get a error "WCELoad Returned Code: 2147024891".
What is this error code and how can i fix it and let Device Update install apps in my Kaiser.

MS Tag working on x1?

hi,
has anyone got the ms tag app to work on the x1.
when i tried it, it could not find the camera.

When cooking into a rom you have to recmod it. Then it will work.
About the standalone cab I don't know

worked for me when i download from their site

Ganondolf said:
hi,
has anyone got the ms tag app to work on the x1.
when i tried it, it could not find the camera.
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Same here...

comeradealexi said:
worked for me when i download from their site
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do u still have the cab u installed, if so could u post it.
i get the same cant find camera error on my x1 (which is not on the list of phones) and on my htc touch dual (which is weird as it is one of the listed phones but i have a custom rom.
on the x1 i have the official SE R3 rom. which rom are u using?

i have got ms tag to work on my x1 (using the official uk SE r3 6.1 rom)
i installed the htc touch dual cab from the ms tag website (on the list of phones but htc, then scroll down to touch dual).

Slightly off topic, but Im in the UK and cant remeber seeing these tags anywhere or have I just been walking arround with my eyes closed lol. The app / principle sounds great but will I be able to use it?

Crank1 said:
Slightly off topic, but Im in the UK and cant remeber seeing these tags anywhere or have I just been walking arround with my eyes closed lol. The app / principle sounds great but will I be able to use it?
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i live in the uk and i have not really seen them either but i think next year we will see them, think they are around at the moment but only in a small way.