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If we can only get this thing rooted and not fully unlocked, then will we still be able to have wireless tethering and overclocking, because I know in order to do that you need a modiffied kernel, Right? The only way to flash a new kernel is the same way you would flash a custom rom. Please correct me if I'm wrong!!!
You can still get wireless tethering if you only root yes.
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You can still get wireless tethering if you only root yes.
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But not overclocking, I believe.
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But not overclocking, I believe.
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I'm pretty sure you can overclock with just root. The Milestone can be overclocked, and that only has root.
thats good, so to me the only major reason why we would want to be able to flash different roms is so we can get the latest version of Androis ASAP! Otherwise once 2.2 hits the DX we only need root to do the other awsome things! I only care for Overclocking, wireless tethering, titanium backup, and deleting system apps, and a few other random apps requiring root!
What about modifying themes heavily?
Having using a Blackberry in the past, one of the best things about it was the fact that the main theme could be heavily modified, (and often very easily via quick downloads) to show such things as upcoming calendar events, missed calls, and the intros of recent texts and emails; all on one screen at the same time, as well as weather and time. I don't really need apps on my main screen as much as a proper log of what I've missed, is coming up, etc..
The "Today" theme, in its many variations is a common example.
Is this something that's possible just by being rooted? Is this possible without even being rooted? Do any Android phones that are fully hacked open even have the possibility to re-arrange their home screen in a such a way?
I've seen that a calendar and weather/time can be easily done, but I'm looking for something kind of like this (it would show newly unchecked emails and texts if there are any, and rolling over the calendar reveals upcoming events):
img202.imageshack.us/img202/6293/bbscreenshot3.jpg
Here's a similar type I also used, that is less minimalistic:
hulkster1970.com/theme/9000/v2/v2_13.jpg
Of course these I used on a much small BB Bold 9000 screen, so I can't imagine what the Droid X could do, if these types of modifications are possible?
Root enough for that? Fully unlocked enough? Just not possible, and I expect too much?
Thanks,
--bb
If that is the interface that your interested in, you should check out the home replacement Slidescreen, it has that kind of layout.
wireless tethering is the only thing I care for NOW.
maybe when Gingerbread comes out then I want some
Irishpride said:
If that is the interface that your interested in, you should check out the home replacement Slidescreen, it has that kind of layout.
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That's absolutely perfect. I will gladly drop $7 for that.
Thanks very much, Irishpride!
/That requires no rooting, or full boot access then? That's exactly what I'm looking for.
can a phone with root only access be flashed to other carriers such as cricket or would you need access to the bootloader?
By the way guys, P3 and Birdman are saying that this might take a very long time to get rooted if not never.
bladebarrier said:
That's absolutely perfect. I will gladly drop $7 for that.
Thanks very much, Irishpride!
/That requires no rooting, or full boot access then? That's exactly what I'm looking for.
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That is pretty cool. Kind of reminds me of my WinMo 6.5 home screen to be honest.
I thought the same thing.
@titanfan, My understanding is that rooting will not be especially difficult or easy, rather flashing custom ROMs will be nearly impossible due to the encrypted bootloader. In other words, the X will be in.the same boat as the Milestone since they share the same bootloader. Please correct if I am wrong
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@titanfan, My understanding is that rooting will not be especially difficult or easy, rather flashing custom ROMs will be nearly impossible due to the encrypted bootloader. In other words, the X will be in.the same boat as the Milestone since they share the same bootloader. Please correct if I am wrong
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Birdman said point-blank, 4+ months for root.
http://twitter.com/mrweeeedbirdman
"If you want a rootable phone, wait 4 months or so on your droid x." Posted July 9th at 11:18pm PST.
However, he's giving cryptic hints today that there's some big news coming about the Droid X. Maybe we're in luck.
Don't need root for BT tethering
BT thethering is already working out of the box with Windows 7 and Linux.
There is another thread in general I think where I've given some instructions. Don't need to pay for tethering.
Today Klutsh released psfServiceMod, which allows you to use an android device to downgrade a ps3. It currently supports most popular android phones.... now including the Droid Inc!
The latest release, 3.2, has everything fixed! I've had it for about a day now and all is good, backups and restores are no longer broken and psfreedom works, grab it here: http://www.klutsh.com/download/86/[...card: [url]http://www.klutsh.com/download/25/
Things to keep in mind:
There is a possibility that you will lose the ability to play Blu ray movies if you downgrade, i personally didn't, and i did it twice. I have a launch model 60GB for homebrew.
If your on 3.41 and want an alternate method of jailbreaking, you might consider Adrynaline's psfreedom kernel.
If you want to use the kernel make sure you have the right one, there is a sense and cm6 version. When your phone turns on, you need to open terminal emulator and enter:
su
insmod /system/lib/modules/psfreedom.ko
This method supports peek and poke and can be run with the phone on, however, it will disable usb mass storage, and wifi. To fix this, just flash back to another kernel like incrediblek's or ziggys. This code will need to be entered again if your phone reboots.
me too, would love to see this!
Yes a inc port will be awesome.
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Support, would definitely love this.
Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS4.
ahhahahahahahhahaha
not happening.
I tried with klutsh (who is a great guy btw) for over 40 recoveries and many custom kernels, he just cannot get it to work on the incredible. Done deal.
Get yourself a dedicated device. I got a used 1st gen ipod nano from craigslist for 10 dollars and it works flawlessly, all payloads and downgrades.
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ahhahahahahahhahaha
not happening.
I tried with klutsh (who is a great guy btw) for over 40 recoveries and many custom kernels, he just cannot get it to work on the incredible. Done deal.
Get yourself a dedicated device. I got a used 1st gen ipod nano from craigslist for 10 dollars and it works flawlessly, all payloads and downgrades.
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He tried 1 test build of the old psfmod. He rewrote the entire thing for this version. I really dont see the problem considering it has almost the exact hardware as the evo and both run clockwork. Am i missing something?
but, a 3.50 Jailbreak would be nice lol.
Im trying to get a service mod going, but i cant compile psfreedom.ko and if i do i get exec_format_error trying to run it. Im running a modded psfreedom kernel btw. Anyone think they can properly compile it? Or is it unlikely to work?
Is this different than Adrynalyne's psfreedom kernel? I'm just curious really, I never plan on owning a ps3.
DInc/XDA App
sucker4pa1n said:
Is this different than Adrynalyne's psfreedom kernel? I'm just curious really, I never plan on owning a ps3.
DInc/XDA App
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It must be. Ive been trying to use it to run the psfreedom.ko file but to no avail.
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ahhahahahahahhahaha
not happening.
I tried with klutsh (who is a great guy btw) for over 40 recoveries and many custom kernels, he just cannot get it to work on the incredible. Done deal.
Get yourself a dedicated device. I got a used 1st gen ipod nano from craigslist for 10 dollars and it works flawlessly, all payloads and downgrades.
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This is the way to go fellas....I just checked craigslist (I already had a iPod mini that I use) and there are a lot of them on there.
KB
mikerulez121 said:
He tried 1 test build of the old psfmod. He rewrote the entire thing for this version. I really dont see the problem considering it has almost the exact hardware as the evo and both run clockwork. Am i missing something?
but, a 3.50 Jailbreak would be nice lol.
Im trying to get a service mod going, but i cant compile psfreedom.ko and if i do i get exec_format_error trying to run it. Im running a modded psfreedom kernel btw. Anyone think they can properly compile it? Or is it unlikely to work?
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You must not be able to read. I personally tested over 40 tries of psfmod to work from klutch himself. Its not happening.
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You must not be able to read. I personally tested over 40 tries of psfmod to work from klutch himself. Its not happening.
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Oh, i can, I just do not give up as easily as you. Im not questioning you, but it just doesnt make any sense...
mikerulez121 said:
Oh, i can, I just do not give up as easily as you. Im not questioning you, but it just doesnt make any sense...
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It makes perfect sense when you realize people smarter then you have been trying and not been able to get it going. This is truly a waste of everyones time to beg for something not happening. Get a device that works and move on, seriously.
quepaso said:
It makes perfect sense when you realize people smarter then you have been trying and not been able to get it going. This is truly a waste of everyones time to beg for something not happening. Get a device that works and move on, seriously.
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Ok, first off, stop with your unnecessary attitude. Its because of negative people like you that things do not happen. Im not begging for anything. Quite the opposite. Im trying to get psfreedom running. If your not going to add anything positive to the thread, then dont bother.
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Ok, first off, stop with your unnecessary attitude. Its because of negative people like you that things do not happen. Im not begging for anything. Quite the opposite. Im trying to get psfreedom running. If your not going to add anything positive to the thread, then dont bother.
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You're going to do it yourself? When klutsh, the guy who created, updates and maintains PSFmod for multiple android devices cannot get it working on the incredible and has given up entirely on it?
Wow, can't wait to see it!
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You're going to do it yourself? When klutsh, the guy who created, updates and maintains PSFmod for multiple android devices cannot get it working on the incredible and has given up entirely on it?
Wow, can't wait to see it!
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Uh, no. Im trying to use Adrynalines psfreedom kernel. I give him credit on that, im not gonna touch my recovery mode.
mikerulez121 said:
Uh, no. Im trying to use Adrynalines psfreedom kernel. I give him credit on that, im not gonna touch my recovery mode.
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Adrynaline lost his source for the original PSFreedom kernel. What he has up there is incomplete and cannot be duplicated as the original kernel. Do you see a pattern here? Im not trying to be mean, but seriously, there are better ways to spend your time.
I'll be looking into this tomorrow
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Oh..... that explains alot. And I guess that would explain my constant failures.. well thank you. Hopefully Invisiblek can find something.
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Klutsh is a fricken machine, thats all i can say
got a working recovery image for the inc, ill leave releasing it to Klutsh though.
i would expect it to be here: http://www.klutsh.com/downloads/ when he releases it
but that can't be....it CAN'T be done! quepaso said it himself that it can't be done, and obviously he knows everything about the future!
Just like the ps3 can't be hacked either! oh wait.....
Hi,
I own a Captivate on Rogers (Canada).
I had the ROM Firefly 2.6 (or 2.4) and decided to change to something quicker or at least different.
I decided to put Cyanogen 7 on it, because many people told me to.
I succeeded in installing Cyanogen and it worked great, easy to use, fast, ultra fast reboot, nice looking... but not all the software I was looking for.
So I decided to change again to a JVQ SIMPLY.
Put it on the SD, move it to sdcard via Astro under Cyanogen and reboot in recovery mode to install update from sdcard.
It wrote that it was ok, and needed to reboot.
Now the only thing I have is "booting" from
- the very first screen with Galaxy S I9000 on it to
- a second one with Galaxy S Cyanogen(mod)
I can access the screen with the little android guy in the public works sign, yellow, with Downloading... and Do not turn off Target!!! (did it trying hard reset).
I couldn't reboot with 3 buttons (tested many methods), the one with Odin, I never ever succeeded with that one, and it continues changing from a screen to another without stopping but if I remove the battery of course.
What can I do from there?
Thank you for your help... again...
Just for clarification, did you do the Odin One-Click to stock? If you can get to the download screen (the yellow sign / "Do not turn off target" screen), you should be able to flash back to stock.
I tried the Odin 1-click, but I think that it won't work right now because I can't access the administrator rights (from work).
I must try from home tonight.
Will it remove everything like the fact it is root?
Thank you for your answer by the way.
The lack of admin rights is very possibly why it won't work. There's also the chance that without admin rights, you're not able to install the samsung drivers. Either way, waiting until you get home sounds like a good idea.
You might be able to do the Heimdall one-click without admin rights, but it would probably be wise to read up on that one first as it's in Beta right now.
The one-click to stock will put your phone in the state it came out of the box, but leave all your personal files on the phone. You will have Eclair 2.1, unrooted, straight as it came from (in your case) Rogers. Any pictures, music, etc you saved on your internal sd card (not the microSD) will still be there, but you'll have to re-root and reinstall any rom you want.
Ok, so I tried different Odin (one click) I found here, and the last one, from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126704&highlight=odin
I flashed the PIT only, because I didnùt know what to put where... bad idea, now my phone doesn't switch on.
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Ok, so I tried different Odin (one click) I found here, and the last one, from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126704&highlight=odin
I flashed the PIT only, because I didnùt know what to put where... bad idea, now my phone doesn't switch on.
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Uh oh. Does your phone show any signs of life at all? Any lights come on, buzzers buzz, whistles whistle, etc?
No, nothing.
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No, nothing.
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Sorry to have to tell you this, but it looks like you might have fully bricked yourself.
If you are still under warranty, you can try to send it in for warranty service. If not, or if you aren't comfortable taking that route, look for a member named connexion2005 (or mobiletechvideos on google), who can do JTAG service for you for $50.
The JTAG thing is the special cable made from special resistor, right?
Or do you mean it is hard break and only expert can do something?
Thank you very much for your help and your support.
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The JTAG thing is the special cable made from special resistor, right?
Or do you mean it is hard break and only expert can do something?
Thank you very much for your help and your support.
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You're thinking of a Jig, which is a set of resistors that kicks the phone into download mode.
Unfortunately, you need JTAG, which is a special service that rewrites the bootloaders to the phone so that it can boot normally. That's something that you either need to be fairly knowledgeable about electronics to do yourself, or something you'll need to send in (to Samsung or mobiletechvideos) to have fixed.
Yeah I thought of a jig...
Ok, I will try the warranty, perhaps it is so much messed up, they won't find anything...
I will let you know.
See you.
Soween said:
Yeah I thought of a jig...
Ok, I will try the warranty, perhaps it is so much messed up, they won't find anything...
I will let you know.
See you.
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Good luck - hopefully your next time around with custom Roms will go better.
I did many, many things with WInMo and never encountered any brick (sometimes I was close to the cliff, but never fell).
Since I have this Captivate, I not sure to really like it, I am fond of android either, and I don't take enough time to read carefully each post...
I think it is time for me to take an iphone...
Although you could do that, I think you'll find if you give yourself a little time with Android you'll come to really like it.
Don't get me wrong - the iPhone is a well made product. But it is one thing, and only one thing. Android devices can really be anything you want.
But that's my opnion. Do with it what you will.
People like you are gold, taking time to help newbie with the always same questions, don't selling android is the best (other are selling ios is the best), ...
I'll see what kind of hone I can find, because the Atrix was a cool phone I liked, and I always liked HTC (qtek before)...
Apple is expensive!!!
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People like you are gold, taking time to help newbie with the always same questions, don't selling android is the best (other are selling ios is the best), ...
I'll see what kind of hone I can find, because the Atrix was a cool phone I liked, and I always liked HTC (qtek before)...
Apple is expensive!!!
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Thank you. I'm just trying to repay the many favors everyone else here on the board has done for me in the past.
Definitely look around - if the Captivate isn't working for you, there's plenty of Android phones that are every bit as good. I've also had good luck with HTC phones in the past, and Motorola's not bad, either.
And yes, Apple is expensive. Can't argue with you on that one.
This might be stupid question but, is your battery charged ?
Hi,
aww.W.T.F, I hope so yes... it was on the usb for hours... you put me a doubt... I need to check now!!
I asked Rogers for warranty, they charge $35 for an exchange, and 5 days to wait, I think this is a little bit too much. But I will do it.
What I discussed with a guy is that I will finish my current subscription with Rogers and take the HTC Sensation with Virgin... Another try with android, to follow jmtheiss.
I will continue to let you know about how it goes.
If my profile is closed tonight, this will be because I will be too ashamed because I had an empty battery...
P.S. Ok it is not the battery... I'm waiting for my new one and will send this one to warranty (I'll see what they can find or not...).
I tried all known methods for rooting but all failed.
Even when you unlock it there is still no TWRP available for the 701.
I asked the devs of twrp on their website to take a look at the 701.
If anyone has more knowledge about progress made on this subject please react here.
Sent from my superfast Asus Infinity TF701with Dock
Knock it Off Please
Ok, forum just opened and;
1. Posted in the development forum instead of General or Q & A (shame shame)
2. Flaming already starts
Knock it off people. Jeeze..... Things will come in good time. Unless of course you want to rush things and brick yer tabs
Keep it clean people.
MD
Now, if you have fastboot OEM unlock,
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Then perhaps you can pull your boot.img, separate zImage from Ramdisk, modify ro.secure=0, add RW comments, repack your boot.img, fastboot flash boot boot.img, then install BB and SU.
Just a thought.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
Now, if you have fastboot OEM unlock,
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Then perhaps you can pull your boot.img, separate zImage from Ramdisk, modify ro.secure=0, add RW comments, repack your boot.img, fastboot flash boot boot.img, then install BB and SU.
Just a thought.
MD
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Sad part the "Fastboot OEM unlock" won't work cause Asus has theirs encrypted. You have to use their unlocking tool to unlock your bootloader. Given fact it can work, been trying it for 2 days now and stupid app won't unlock my bootloader. Read my S/N may not be registered in their database so emailed them complaining about another service that doesn't work.
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Sad part the "Fastboot OEM unlock" won't work cause Asus has theirs encrypted. You have to use their unlocking tool to unlock your bootloader. Given fact it can work, been trying it for 2 days now and stupid app won't unlock my bootloader. Read my S/N may not be registered in their database so emailed them complaining about another service that doesn't work.
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They'll get around to it. Heck, when I had to turn in my A701 to service center, they didn't even know it had been released Tried telling me it was a "leaked and illegal" tablet.
Good luck with the bootloader mate, but root after that should be pretty straight forward. (fingers crossed)
I think that unlocking bootloader is bad idea. After that the warranty will be void...
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They'll get around to it. Heck, when I had to turn in my A701 to service center, they didn't even know it had been released Tried telling me it was a "leaked and illegal" tablet.
Good luck with the bootloader mate, but root after that should be pretty straight forward. (fingers crossed)
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Yeah well tried to call them and got the usual "just send it back" well not waiting 2-3 weeks just get to get it back. Since there is something wrong with the charge port anyways just gonna send it back to amazon to have new one in couple days. Gotta love the return policy.
HaPe000 said:
I think that unlocking bootloader is bad idea. After that the warranty will be void...
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Um thats just lame excuse from companies to force us to keep their crap on the devices we purchase. All my devices are rooted and unlocked and not one has died yet. After going through and disabling 2/3rds of crap on this tablet now I want that few hundred megabytes back in space. For as much crap I disabled I wouldn't be surprised im more close to 1gb back.
Moscow Desire said:
They'll get around to it. Heck, when I had to turn in my A701 to service center, they didn't even know it had been released Tried telling me it was a "leaked and illegal" tablet.
Good luck with the bootloader mate, but root after that should be pretty straight forward. (fingers crossed)
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What a morons sometimes. Strange because I had the issue with the connection between dock and tablet where the connection between the 2 for a split moment was gone when adjusting the tilt angle, I got an immediate replacement. This problem I guarantee you we will see more often showing up here.
And what the rooting concerns: when the TWRP devs have their version for the 701 finished, it will be not that hard anymore. Just takes some time before that is done.
And for the flaming thing sorry, but I don't like to get hit by childish behavior when just reporting and next to that by a guy that is probably half my age and just comes looking in here (look @ date I joined xda lol)
Thanks for removing that post.
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What a morons sometimes. Strange because I had the issue with the connection between dock and tablet where the connection between the 2 for a split moment was gone when adjusting the tilt angle, I got an immediate replacement. This problem I guarantee you we will see more often showing up here.
And what the rooting concerns: when the TWRP devs have their version for the 701 finished, it will be not that hard anymore. Just takes some time before that is done.
And for the flaming thing sorry, but I don't like to get hit by childish behavior when just reporting and next to that by a guy that is probably half my age and just comes looking in here (look @ date I joined xda lol)
Thanks for removing that post.
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Hate returns. Took 3 months to get a refund. (welcome to Russia). Honestly, it was all due to rush jobs on CWM for the 510 and 700's. Bozos were in a rush to be the first, and used the "fstab's" from the wrong device. Bricked several tabs before I put a stop to it. Basically ruined the emmc memory. Mainboard replacements.
Well, I know folks are itchy to get things going. What starts as a joke, turns into flaming.
You folks always remember, takes 2 people for an argument. You all have the "Report Post" button on the toolbar. Please use it.
Honestly, I expect you folks to help each other out. Makes for a better forum.
Carry On!
MD
Snah001 said:
What a morons sometimes. Strange because I had the issue with the connection between dock and tablet where the connection between the 2 for a split moment was gone when adjusting the tilt angle, I got an immediate replacement. This problem I guarantee you we will see more often showing up here.
And what the rooting concerns: when the TWRP devs have their version for the 701 finished, it will be not that hard anymore. Just takes some time before that is done.
And for the flaming thing sorry, but I don't like to get hit by childish behavior when just reporting and next to that by a guy that is probably half my age and just comes looking in here (look @ date I joined xda lol)
Thanks for removing that post.
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well next time you may want to think twice before asuming someone younger than you. guess i am to young to know where the movie that reference came from. i already have the boot.img altered and ready to try. also dont ask for it, havent tested it yet so going to have to wait till amazon gives me new one. it really isnt hard to alter, moscow already gave instructions.
Update Amazon has shipped my new tablet so may be here tomorrow (i hope) if my new boot.img works and gives me root then I will pass it on, sadly though it won't be in a format in which you can just use a custom recovery, you have to flash it manually but if it works I will post how to flash it (all i need to remember is which tools to zip up in the entire SDK) LOL.
Interesting discussion..
Sent from my New Asus Transformer Pad TF701T using Tapatalk HD
Tiger62651 said:
Um thats just lame excuse from companies to force us to keep their crap on the devices we purchase. All my devices are rooted and unlocked and not one has died yet. After going through and disabling 2/3rds of crap on this tablet now I want that few hundred megabytes back in space. For as much crap I disabled I wouldn't be surprised im more close to 1gb back.
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It is VERY lame. I sold my TF700 because of the slow I/O causing lag that I couldn't live with. Of course I had the bootloader unlocked, so the warranty was void. I divulged that info in the eBay auction for the most part (I didn't say the warranty was void because I didn't know that was the case. Ignorant, I know). Anyway, the new owner of my TF700 emailed me after a couple months asking me why ASUS was charging them $280 for fixing the faulty touchscreen. They said ASUS says it's not under warranty because of the unlocked bootloader. I felt bad for the new owners, having to fork out the money. They're $800 into the TF700 w/dock at this point.
So I would say: Think twice before unlocking the bootloader on the TF701, when custom-recovery even comes out for it.
Personally, with my TF701 that I ordered on newgg today, I am going to leave the bootloader locked for awhile. I can live with the stock ROM, hopefully with root access. Maybe after a few months I'll unlock the bootloader. It would be nice to do it in a way that didn't void the warranty. What an asinine policy by ASUS. There is no way the unlocked bootloader led to the touchscreen failing on my old TF700....no way!
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It is VERY lame. I sold my TF700 because of the slow I/O causing lag that I couldn't live with. Of course I had the bootloader unlocked, so the warranty was void. I divulged that info in the eBay auction for the most part (I didn't say the warranty was void because I didn't know that was the case. Ignorant, I know). Anyway, the new owner of my TF700 emailed me after a couple months asking me why ASUS was charging them $280 for fixing the faulty touchscreen. They said ASUS says it's not under warranty because of the unlocked bootloader. I felt bad for the new owners, having to fork out the money. They're $800 into the TF700 w/dock at this point.
So I would say: Think twice before unlocking the bootloader on the TF701, when custom-recovery even comes out for it.
Personally, with my TF701 that I ordered on newgg today, I am going to leave the bootloader locked for awhile. I can live with the stock ROM, hopefully with root access. Maybe after a few months I'll unlock the bootloader. It would be nice to do it in a way that didn't void the warranty. What an asinine policy by ASUS. There is no way the unlocked bootloader led to the touchscreen failing on my old TF700....no way!
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Gee thanks for the advice. Lets just say for practicality so you know when I got my Xoom 2 days later I rooted it. Couple years later works fine just slow now so time for new one. I have 701 right now and its blazing fast.
2nd let me shine some advise for you. For starters you can't "root" a device with a locked bootloader. Requires altering the boot.img to tell system to boot up differently and allow you access to the "restricted" file system. To access the flash portion of that requires you to open it up. One way or another you will have to unlock the bootloader to root the device. I myself just want root, I want to just remove the unwanted junk and free up that wasted space and install ad blocking software.
What each person chooses to do with the root is up to them, regardless if Asus wants to void the warranty or not. Just need little common sense and know how to use google to figure what you want to do. If your to cautious to do that then I highly suggest not touching it and leave it as is. To me its never a "think twice" once you root and have full access to the product you bought, it makes the device so much better to use and gets rid of unwanted bloatware. Especially the ad blocking apps which helps on phone contracts with capped data helps keep your data way down since ads use a lot of data.
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2nd let me shine some advise for you. For starters you can't "root" a device with a locked bootloader. Requires altering the boot.img to tell system to boot up differently and allow you access to the "restricted" file system. To access the flash portion of that requires you to open it up. One way or another you will have to unlock the bootloader to root the device. I myself just want root, I want to just remove the unwanted junk and free up that wasted space and install ad blocking software.
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Your statements sound completely wrong to me. Of course you can root without unlocking the bootloader. I have rooted two phones and my TF201, all without unlocking; I rooted the TF201 soon after buying it, and only unlocked the bootloader more than a year later.
Rooting doesn't force you to forfeit warranty service, but unlocking does. (Note that you can unroot a device before sending it in for service, but you can't "relock" an unlocked device.) So it makes perfect sense as Snake suggests to hold off on unlocking, at least until you are sure all the hardware in your device is working perfectly.
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Update Amazon has shipped my new tablet so may be here tomorrow (i hope) if my new boot.img works and gives me root then I will pass it on, sadly though it won't be in a format in which you can just use a custom recovery, you have to flash it manually but if it works I will post how to flash it (all i need to remember is which tools to zip up in the entire SDK) LOL.
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You can use a windows app called Virtuous Ten Studio (created by Diamondback ) Senior Mod and RD. It'll unpack your boot.img to allow editing ramdisk. Heck, it'll also de-odex, decompile apks with built in support for most API levels in a windows UI. No need to mess with apktools and such.
Free version in the XDA forums. Think you have to install latest MS .Net though. Can't remember. Give it a go. If you're a ROM cooker, it's a must.
An unlocked bootloader is usually 90% of the battle when getting full root (full means system RW access). Locked bootloaders is why rooting can involve finding exploits, which is why so many root apps are out there. Not saying what worked on the Acer 500/501, 510/511 and 700/701 tabs will work for the TF701, but it's worth investigating.
Moscow Desire said:
You can use a windows app called Virtuous Ten Studio (created by Diamondback ) Senior Mod and RD. It'll unpack your boot.img to allow editing ramdisk. Heck, it'll also de-odex, decompile apks with built in support for most API levels in a windows UI. No need to mess with apktools and such.
Free version in the XDA forums. Think you have to install latest MS .Net though. Can't remember. Give it a go. If you're a ROM cooker, it's a must.
An unlocked bootloader is usually 90% of the battle when getting full root (full means system RW access). Locked bootloaders is why rooting can involve finding exploits, which is why so many root apps are out there. Not saying what worked on the Acer 500/501, 510/511 and 700/701 tabs will work for the TF701, but it's worth investigating.
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Thanks for the windows tip but I use VMware with Ubuntu installed and have my harddrive mapped as network drive to transfer files between. Much easier this way. I will check out the program though may need it for some APK altering of certain app (I hope).
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Thanks for the windows tip but I use VMware with Ubuntu installed and have my harddrive mapped as network drive to transfer files between. Much easier this way. I will check out the program though may need it for some APK altering of certain app (I hope).
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Ha, I use a dual boot (win7 and Ubuntu). Old lappy didn't run too well with VM. Need any help, shoot me a PM. Will share what I know.
There's a few other things you can do im Ramdisk, like increase read ahead cache, run a service to update lto.dat automatically (GPS) and a few others.
I only boot to win7 when I want to unpack/repack and boot images when I do kernel builds. (I'm lazy)
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Ha, I use a dual boot (win7 and Ubuntu). Old lappy didn't run too well with VM. Need any help, shoot me a PM. Will share what I know.
There's a few other things you can do im Ramdisk, like increase read ahead cache, run a service to update lto.dat automatically (GPS) and a few others.
I only boot to win7 when I want to unpack/repack and boot images when I do kernel builds. (I'm lazy)
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Yeah that works just pain to have to shut down windows to boot ubuntu. My PC is a power house, set VMware with 4gb of RAM and still not slowing my PC down LOL.
well new tablet in and little troubleshooting seems problem is bad charge cable, new one starts to charge 1/2 way in, other little flaky. but even new tablet fresh out of box wont let me unlock it so asus tw asked for screen shot of my ids, waiting reply.
As an IT professional, I truly hate looking like an idiot. And I'm pretty sure that's about to happen. But I'm sincerely at the end of my rope, and don't know what else to do.
I've been using my Nexus 6 for over a year and a half now, and I love it. I'm comfortable using WugFresh and recently flashed the 7.1.1 OTA using it. However, I also like using Android Pay, so I don't want to root. I do however want full Google Now integration in Action Launcher 3, now that it's available. I really, really want that.
So I looked into Magisk, and that seems to be the way to go. The problem is that the installation instructions seem inherently contradictory. First, they say you need to revert to stock (does that mean stock 7.1.1 or stock after FDR, btw?). But in the very next step, they tell you to flash Magicsk using TWRP. Huh? How is a custom recovery like TWRP considered stock? I just don't get it.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying my best here, so please don't flame. I used to be comfortable with rooting and ROMing back in the OG Droid days, but as I said, I enjoy Android Pay and my banking app, etc.
Thanks in advance for some clear, non-contradictory instructions.
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As an IT professional, I truly hate looking like an idiot. And I'm pretty sure that's about to happen. But I'm sincerely at the end of my rope, and don't know what else to do.
I've been using my Nexus 6 for over a year and a half now, and I love it. I'm comfortable using WugFresh and recently flashed the 7.1.1 OTA using it. However, I also like using Android Pay, so I don't want to root. I do however want full Google Now integration in Action Launcher 3, now that it's available. I really, really want that.
So I looked into Magisk, and that seems to be the way to go. The problem is that the installation instructions seem inherently contradictory. First, they say you need to revert to stock (does that mean stock 7.1.1 or stock after FDR, btw?). But in the very next step, they tell you to flash Magicsk using TWRP. Huh? How is a custom recovery like TWRP considered stock? I just don't get it.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying my best here, so please don't flame. I used to be comfortable with rooting and ROMing back in the OG Droid days, but as I said, I enjoy Android Pay and my banking app, etc.
Thanks in advance for some clear, non-contradictory instructions.
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Well first let me give you some advise. If those apps are important to you then get used to running stock. Google is tighting the grip more and more and very soon you will have to choose. Either having root or using many apps like banking apps and google pay. Cant blame them really.
Now When they say stock then mean bare stock. Full factory wipe (formatting all partitions. Yes you will lose data) then put TWRP on there and go from there.
On a side not. You do yourself a great dis-service by using the tool kit. Make me wonder about the IT professional statement, no true IT person would let something reprogram their equipment without knowing everything that is going on as it happens.
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Well first let me give you some advise. If those apps are important to you then get used to running stock. Google is tighting the grip more and more and very soon you will have to choose. Either having root or using many apps like banking apps and google pay. Cant blame them really..
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Kind of what I figured, and why I haven't rooted since my Droid Bionic.
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Now When they say stock then mean bare stock. Full factory wipe (formatting all partitions. Yes you will lose data) then put TWRP on there and go from there..
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So in other words, the correct instructions should be:
1) Perform a Factory Data Reset
2) Flash TWRP
3) Flash Magisk using TWRP
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On a side not. You do yourself a great dis-service by using the tool kit. Make me wonder about the IT professional statement, no true IT person would let something reprogram their equipment without knowing everything that is going on as it happens.
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So clearly you ignored my request not to flame. My IT job takes up enough of my time and mental resources that I have no problem using shortcuts like WugFresh as long as (a) I know how to do it manually if needed, and (b) I trust the utility. So tired of seeing this lazy insult. Not everyone has time to type out ADB commands all day long. But thanks for insinuating I'm not a "true IT person" because I prefer not to do so.
Now that I understand what is actually involved, I will just stay stock.
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Kind of what I figured, and why I haven't rooted since my Droid Bionic.
So in other words, the correct instructions should be:
1) Perform a Factory Data Reset
2) Flash TWRP
3) Flash Magisk using TWRP
So clearly you ignored my request not to flame. My IT job takes up enough of my time and mental resources that I have no problem using shortcuts like WugFresh as long as (a) I know how to do it manually if needed, and (b) I trust the utility. So tired of seeing this lazy insult. Not everyone has time to type out ADB commands all day long. But thanks for insinuating I'm not a "true IT person" because I prefer not to do so.
Now that I understand what is actually involved, I will just stay stock.
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No need to do a factory reset. The installation instructions state you should restore your BOOT image to stock, nothing else. You can use a custom kernel though (I've been using Franco for some time) and there the recommendation is to flash it before Magisk.
So, in other words, skip step 1.
Edit: But of course, you'll need an unlocked bootloader and if you don't have that already your data will be wiped when unlocking. So... step 1 might be necessary... Oops.
unbesorgt said:
Kind of what I figured, and why I haven't rooted since my Droid Bionic.
So in other words, the correct instructions should be:
1) Perform a Factory Data Reset
2) Flash TWRP
3) Flash Magisk using TWRP
So clearly you ignored my request not to flame. My IT job takes up enough of my time and mental resources that I have no problem using shortcuts like WugFresh as long as (a) I know how to do it manually if needed, and (b) I trust the utility. So tired of seeing this lazy insult. Not everyone has time to type out ADB commands all day long. But thanks for insinuating I'm not a "true IT person" because I prefer not to do so.
Now that I understand what is actually involved, I will just stay stock.
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And see that is where you not wanting to put the time in is starting to bite you. doing a facotry reset isnt really a full clean wipe. You have to format the partitions.
If you dont have the time then you really shouldnt be doing something that could easily leave you with a bricked device and with no one to blame but yourself as you didnt want to take the time to understand what you are doing.
As to what I said. It wasnt flaming it was simple blunt honesty. I know people are not used to that as everyone tries so hard to be PC and not hurt other peoples feelings. Well that is not how things work here. Here you will get honest answers. Might not be answers you like but that is not really something to worry about.
I wasnt insinuating anything. I cant tell you that most the older members of this site are in IT and have been for longer then smartphones have been around. The yare also the ones that tell people not to use them for the simple matter of not knowing how to fix things if something went wrong or even what went wrong at all.
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Well first let me give you some advise. If those apps are important to you then get used to running stock. Google is tighting the grip more and more and very soon you will have to choose. Either having root or using many apps like banking apps and google pay. Cant blame them really.
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Yes, sadly I think you are right about this. I have decided to remain stock 7.1.1. The thing I will never understand is why Google chose to make Google Now launcher integration dependent upon the launcher being a system app? I can already have that feature if I use the Google Now launcher which is part of the stock image, but for various aesthetic reasons I just can't stand it. I get that they want to sell Pixels, but honestly I can't stand the Pixel launcher either, due to the ugly icons, so even if I shelled out the price of a desktop computer for a phone that lacks wireless charging, stereo speakers, and water resistance, I still would be stuck not being able to have Google Now integration with my preferred Action Launcher 3. Why? Google's entire business model is based on people using their search engine and seeing their ads, so why on earth wouldn't they want as many people as possible to use Google Now? Plus I can already access it in multiple different ways, they just all suck because it doesn't stay resident in RAM, causing stuttering and delays. If they would just remove that stupid restriction then people like me wouldn't feel the need to root at all, thereby compromising the security of the device which is so important to them, and it would be a win-win all around. Google used to be smarter than this ... what the hell happened? /rant
Thank you Didgeridoohan for your polite and helpful reply. It is truly appreciated. Glad to know there are still kind people to be found on XDA.
My willingness to use ADB commands vs. a root toolkit had absolutely nothing to do with my question. But some people just can't resist any opportunity to display their smug superiority.
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Thank you Didgeridoohan for your polite and helpful reply. It is truly appreciated. Glad to know there are still kind people to be found on XDA.
My willingness to use ADB commands vs. a root toolkit had absolutely nothing to do with my question. But some people just can't resist any opportunity to display their smug superiority.
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He wasn't flaming... Take 2 minutes to learn ADB and fastboot commands and don't rely on some gimmick toolkit. and it will go a long way. For an "it professional" or even anyone relatively familiar with computers this won't be a hard task. If you're messing with your phone you NEED to know how to do this. Don't cry foul when someone points this out.