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Lag Fix

Will we see a lag fix on our phone like the Samsung Galaxy S has?

Birdman was supose to be working on one but haven't heard anything in a really long time about it
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What lag? Only lag I have is on the lock screen
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I wouldnt call what they did to the galaxy s a "fix".
its a quadrant trick. thats it.

Its a lag fix that also effects quadrant but don't be mistaken, it does have an effect on the UI, as well.
Last I heard birdman was working on it
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Someone mind filling me in or linking me to what you're talking about? I have no lag on my X and I didn't hear anything about the S having any.

No lag here. Smooth as butter.

I have lag issues with pulling up contacts from the address book. Sometimes it can be up to 30 seconds where no info is displayed about the contact I clicked.

Sheen160 said:
Someone mind filling me in or linking me to what you're talking about? I have no lag on my X and I didn't hear anything about the S having any.
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Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760267

Does anyone know if the Vibrant fix also works on the X by any chance?

Breakthecycle2 said:
Does anyone know if the Vibrant fix also works on the X by any chance?
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I would have to say no as it modifies system files

_mrbirdman_
moto actually used the samsung galaxy S lag fix (noatime nodiratime) in the 2.2 dx leak...hahaha
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According to Birdman it's already there

If that were really the case, then why havn't the x's quadrant scores gone higher than 1500 with the update? Cuz on my vibrant I went from 800 to 2500 after the one click lag fix.bat ran
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Because we don't have a lag fix... There isn't lag. The Galaxy S gets huge scores the same way the X does. And the Hummingbird processor is the best one out there right now. Do the stagefright true mod and your X will hit 1800-2200 in Quadrant. It's only a number. I've personally hit 2050 but I don't much care about it. It runs just the same at 1400 because Quadrant bases a huge portion of that score on HD video decoding not actual processing speed. And I have many widgets and programs running to top it off.

blazewit said:
If that were really the case, then why havn't the x's quadrant scores gone higher than 1500 with the update? Cuz on my vibrant I went from 800 to 2500 after the one click lag fix.bat ran
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Stagefright is disabled in this build of Froyo for the Droid X. Thats why the scores are ~1300-1400. Stage fright is ENABLED by DEFAULT in Froyo so enabling it is actually making the device stock.

You are all missing the concept of the "lag fix" the Samsung Galaxy uses. All the lag fix is doing is creating a virtual file system due to the Samsung Galaxy using their proprietary RFS file system, which is good on flash memory and flash memory alone. The data directory they have is actually located on the Internal Memory (Integrated SD Card) Which is NOT true flash memory (NAND) and therefor lags due to using RFS instead of a superior (sector based) ext2 3 or 4.
The DroidX does NOT have this problem, we do not use RFS, and do not have the poor data partitioning scheme the Galaxy has, therefor this fix would do nothing for the Droid X, moreover it is not needed. The only benefit you would see is a higher Quadrant score because ext3 and 4 contain journaling which utilizes RAM as a cache, tricking quadrant into thinking you are writing and reading database entries in an unheard of amount of time... So if you want fake results, then port the fix. Just keep in mind we don't need it.
EDIT: I posted before I got to root and inspect the file system fully for the Droid X. The only idiotic thing I can see is Motorola chose to use ext3 as their system partition. Perhaps they had good reason, however /system is found on NAND, and NAND should have a filesystem designed for it, the benefits are significantly greater... A yaffs2 file system is what should have been used for /system as it is with many other phones, I'm not sure why manufacturers (Samsung.. Motorola) are starting to move away from using yaffs2, however at least Samsung created a file system meant for flash, and didn't just throw a sector based FS over NAND...

In all honesty...who cares about quadrant scores? I know I don't. If my phone runs smooth, snappy, and there are no delays when doing daily (non-intensive) processes, what does a quadrant score do for me? Nothing! It's just a pseudo-statistic used to brag about the speed of your phone. When in reality, I guarantee my X on 2.2 leaked update getting 1500 quadrant scores runs just as smooth as a galaxy getting 2300. I'm just kinda sick of everyone complaining about quadrant numbers. If the phone is fast when using it...then it's fast. simple.
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[Q] Why Galaxy S seem to run slower in Android 2.2 (Froyo)?

Question: Why Galaxy S seem to run slower in Android 2.2 (Froyo)?
I been google-ing via the net for the answer. But I can't find any answer for it.
I saw in smartphonebenchmarks.com, the quadrant scores drop from 2220 to 980.
While other phones scores seem to improve after the update.
Thanks

The galaxy after froyo update is not slower compared to the eclair version but still has long way to go. Quadrant score earlier probably would have been achieved after applying third party lag fix like voodoo lagfix.

Enspade said:
The galaxy after froyo update is not slower compared to the eclair version but still has long way to go. Quadrant score earlier probably would have been achieved after applying third party lag fix like voodoo lagfix.
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oh ok thx.. but any idea if what would the score like after lagfix is installed?

Forget about benchmark scores, they mean very little if you don't know what they are testing.

Mine is lagging more after official unbranded update as well.. I read that restoring system settings from eclair may be an issue, but there are too many red herrings..
I tried to get information about backup/restore process before updating, but too many opinions and not enough facts..
We need an official guide that traverses smoothly from eclair, including b/r of apps, data and settings..
Samsung seems to forget we used these phones for months and do not want to begin again from factory settings.
XDA has too much info for the average users to make decisions from.
Maybe I will spend the weekend working it out..
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Since you are talking Quadrant-wise.
Applying LagFix on Eclair had a greater effect over the I/O than it does on Froyo.
In Eclair, the I/O with LagFix gets over 7000 score in Quadrant Advanced. Under Froyo, it gets right under 4500.
On the other hand, the CPU score has risen from 900~ to 1300~ from Elcair to Froyo.

[Q] Bad performance? 1563 in Quadrant...

Hi everybody!
After installing the DocRom XXJPO v9 with lagfix Ext4 ALL (a=e4), schedule kernel, I/O, etc.. and tweaks, and I get 1563 in Quadrant's benchmark(I've just installed, i never ran the test before)...It's a very low value, isn't it?What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!

Take test scores with a grain of salt. It's not the best way of assuming something is wrong with your phone.
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Actually if u look at the other scores unless something has changed I'm pretty sure that is still the highest s ore on that list. No worries.
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Uh, yea. I get something between 900 and 1000 depending on the day with official 2.2. Mostly I assume down to the piss poor filesystem speed. It almost always looks like it has hung on the writing test.

Thanks for the responses!
I've read that some people got 2000 and even a little bit more. I guess they overclocked!!

outrun86 said:
Thanks for the responses!
I've read that some people got 2000 and even a little bit more. I guess they overclocked!!
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People may be using an overclock but to the people with the 2000+ scores are using the EXT2 binds option/OCLF.
When using OCLF quadrants shows huge scores in the filesystem part whereas it may not reflect the actual performance of the phone.
Personally so far, hardcores new K10C kernel is by far the fastest I've used yet. He's updates a few things in K10C and my phone is really, really fast. You notice it more in the app drawer and when the phone is under load. I'm also using the all EXT4 option.
You should give K10C a go and see for yourself.

Paul, I'll have to wipe to install this new kernel?

... Quadrant scores are pretty meaningless. Only be worried if you feel lag when you're using the phone.

my scores breach 2000(by 3) but im not overclocked. look at my signature

I'll try this new kernel, PaulForde, thanks for the tip!
nwsk, you're totally right, but sometimes I notice some little lag in my live wallpaper, and I don't have lots of apps in background. That's what made me think about it, install Quadrant and compare the results with some others.
By the way racerboy3801, I see you have BUJP8 v9 installed...[offtopic]Have you noticed any differences with JPA/JPO?[/offtopic]

[Q] What's up with the performance of froyo on Galaxy S?

Hi Ppl,
I got the official froyo release for Galaxy S India yesterday. Good Good... But wait, is it worth it? I don't know..
Before I upgraded to froyo I had applied the lag fix on 2.1 and the quadrant score showed somewhere at 1700-1800 which is good. Quadrant score on stock showed around 800-900.
Quadrant score on 2.2 stock now shows 925-950. This really pissed me off. I ran another test which is linpack and I got 13 Mflops. I do not understand what's wrong with the froyo update. I read somewhere that 2.2 is not compatible with humming bird processor. Per my understanding 2.2 upgrade should boost the CPU to the next level and the performance should be really good than 2.1.
I was comparing dell streak with galaxy s. I know if I should or not but I just wanted to look at the scores on both. Dell says Streak has a 1 GHz processor and so do Galaxy S. But the linpack score on streak showed 30 Mflops which is way better than Galaxy S which is at 13 Mflops. I really do not understand what the problem here is.
Is there no difference b/w 2.1 and 2.2 on Galaxy S? If yes, 2.2 is a joke I would say.
I am concerned because I still found issues with the froyo update. Its still laggy. I didnt notice much difference b/w 2.1 and 2.2 really
Can anyone help me out with this please?
Thanks,
Ravi

I wouldn't worry too much about quadrant scores, but if your phone is lagging then you probably need to reapply a lag fix. Did you update via Kies? I updated mine a while ago using odin (never had much joy with Kies) and my phone seemed pretty good without a lag fix, I did do a factory reset though before installing. Mines now running spikey's oc rom and oclf and is scoring around 2300 on quadrant, but more importantly the phone is ultra responsive with zero lag

Do a factory reset and reapply a lagfix, you'll get 1600ish quadrant scores again.
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Thanks for the reply, guys. I had read somewhere that the score would be 1600-1800 on stock froyo? Is that not right? Do I still need to apply a lag fix?
And yes. I updated using Kies. I did a factory reset of the phone before and after I update froyo.
Which lag fix do u suggest? Voodoo or OCLF? I guess OCLF uses EXT2 and Voodoo uses EXT4 which is a bit faster than the former right?

who cares about the score, it is all BS
what matter most, is how smooth it runs for you, and when you switch from app to app, and have stuff multitasking in the background

AllGamer said:
who cares about the score, it is all BS
what matter most, is how smooth it runs for you, and when you switch from app to app, and have stuff multitasking in the background
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That FACT should be sticky on this forum.

ok.. I am facing a new problem now. I do not know if this is the right thread or not.
After the froyo official update I noticed I could download apps from the market except for the installation process. Some apps get stuck after a complete download and never gets installed
IS there a fix for this?

Laggy Phone

I know the galaxy is a fast phone but for reason my phone does not seem to perform very well compared to other galaxy s3. I don't have the power saving mode on and yet my benchmarks are lower. i used Antutu to do this and the galaxy s3 for other phones are usually above 10000 and mine can only hit about
9300. can anyone tell me what the problem is?
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Antutu is rubbish with the i9305 phones I even talked with the Dev and he agreed something was not right about the results and hopefully the bugs get ironed out in future releases. I Overclocked mine to 1.7Ghz and got a score of 8000 then I put it back to normal and got 12500 then i tried it again and got 9000 its just ridiculous, I mean Even quadrant is more stable i am getting over 7000K constanlty with a highest of 7400 but this is when I am OC to 1.7ghz and thats an insane score for quadrant, Stock I9300 get around 5000 with quadran just to show you the difference.. By the way that is using Quadrant Pro
You should not base your laggyness with benchmark results everyone knows they dont mean much and if it actually feels laggy and slow and its completely stock and you dont have it on power savings mode and you have not installed any 3rd party apps which could cause the biug Then i am afraid its a hardware issue but if you have a custom rom/kernel installed 3rd party apps well 1st thing to do is remove EVERTHING go back to stock straight out of the box and see if its still slow, because it shouldnt these phones a beautiful straight from thebox even.

thx for the info. tats probably y I had thought it was my phone. I can't say much about feeling the lag while using my phone cuz I'm almost never using power hungry apps but I only got worried cuz I was playing spirit xhd and it was just soooo laggy I couldn't even play.
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are you rooted? have you tried a factory reset?

not rooted no I have not tried a factory reset.
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OK, if you can't find any rogue app, it might be the next thing to try.