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why does haykuro's spl make you brick?

I was just wondering myself, I didn't brick when I flashes somehow by the grace of God. I updated the radio on accident through the JF updater when I was running 1.5 with the old radio.

I'm sorry but i don't really understand the question.
It seems like you didn't brick because you installed the radio first, and you did things right.

double post sorry.

I'm still a noob but this is what I remember reading in a few threads all over. I don't know if there was a definitve cause found. I do remember that the concensus (sp) is that most of the phones that had problems seemed to be of the "dvt" type as apposed to the "pvt" type. I don't know what the difference is (I'll be looking it up), but, you can find out what yours is by booting to the bootloader (press cam+power). You'll get a screen with androids on skateboards. You will see either pvt or dvt. Mine is pvt. I had no problems with the "Danger" SPL.

Oh... And most of the pvt problems were probably caused by not updating the radio before adding the new SPL.

o i c. like i said i had no issues with it. and i knew that updateing the spl b4 the radio will make you brick. i was wondering what would cause that

i think he is asking because next to the download it says it has caused bricks

It has to do with the boot order 1. radio > 2. spl > 3. boot.img. Without the right radio then the spl can't load causing the phone not to boot.

what to do after you downgrade to RC29

I wannna know what is the right thing to do after you downgrade to Rc29 as in
Keeping your phone up to date to instal the latest cyanogenmod
Cuz it seems to me that everytime I do my mods there is always something wrong
Little but wrong ya know I want my phone to run as good as it can .
I'm currently running RC29 US (not rooted no mods at all)
Just waiting to see what's the best thing to do
Thx in advance

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563679
Follow this to the T.

What's the difference bewtween hard spl and haykuros special spl somehow I like hykuros better but I don't really know the difference and you think I can use haykuros spl instead of the hard spl while following that guide?

Haykuros SPL repartitions the phone so the System and Data partitions are both ~90mb
The bigger partition allows you to install bigger roms such as Hero
However, the HaykuroSPL has a high chance of bricking your phone permanently if you dont know what your doing....
The most important thing is to flash the 26I radio before the SPL
However, you can install the HardSPL now and install the HaykuroSPL when you feel your read

Zixx said:
What's the difference bewtween hard spl and haykuros special spl somehow I like hykuros better but I don't really know the difference and you think I can use haykuros spl instead of the hard spl while following that guide?
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The death spl is the saphires spl. People load it on the g1's to be able to load a hero rom because the hero roms are bigger needing more space. When you load it on the phone it resizes the partitions to make more space. Thats the reason why you have to flash a rom right after the spl because it overwrites the existing rom. If I were you I would load hard spl first to get the hang of everything then try the danger spl. Many people have bricked there phone due to that spl, but if you do try it don't take any shortcuts and read read read.

What to do,what to do?
Well...I would advise you follow a tutorial or go to youtube and follow a video or video's on how to root and all that happy horsecrap.That's how I did it my first time. I watched videos,watched how others did it and then copied what they did on my phone. I successfully came out of it rooted,with the updated radio,Haykuro's SPL, and a Hero ROM that I could depend on at that time.Since then I have flashed so many different ROM's I can't even count all of them anymore. I would definitely root the phone first though. Possibly call T-MO and ask them for an unlock code for the phone as well as that will let you travel overseas with the phone and use it on other carriers too. Rooting is the way to go with the G1 nowadays. A whole new world opens up to you once the phone is rooted! Anyways...good luck at your beginning and keep up the work. If you end up bricking your phone,call T-MO and tell em one of their updates bricked your phone and you want a new one. Take it slow and do things right though man!

Danger SPL to Normal SPL

Hello, it's been a while since I've stepped into XDA, busy with school and all
So I recently broke my G1, and thanks to insurance, I had it replaced. I quickly went to root it and apply Haykuro's Danger SPL as I did last time to my older G1. However, something happened. I don't recall what, but I remember it not being pretty.
I haven't had MMS since. Come to think of it, I don't think I did even on my last G1. Either way, I think it's due to how the Danger SPL flashed onto my phone. I want to know how I can downgrade to one that's a little more "stable" and get a better radio to see if it's that that's causing the problems. What do you guys think?

There's nothing unstable about the danger spl and it couldn't cause a problem like this. The 26i radio is also the most current and 'best' for the g1, so no point changing. It's more likely a phone configuration or network issue.. you'd be better off speaking to your provider and making sure your settings are right.

Are your MMS settings proper?

goldenarmZ said:
There's nothing unstable about the danger spl and it couldn't cause a problem like this. The 26i radio is also the most current and 'best' for the g1, so no point changing. It's more likely a phone configuration or network issue.. you'd be better off speaking to your provider and making sure your settings are right.
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I've already spoken to T-Mobile on several occassions. They've done everything from remote access the phone to resetting the network as a whole in my area...nothing. I'm theorizing that it's the SPL because it didn't install pretty and I think perhaps it took MMS down with it.
B-man007 said:
Are your MMS settings proper?
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What are the "proper" MMS settings?

lukekirstein said:
I'm theorizing that it's the SPL because it didn't install pretty and I think perhaps it took MMS down with it.
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I don't think that's possible. Once the spl boots the kernel, It doesn't have any further role to play.. I can't imagine any scenario in which it could affect high-level functionality like that. If it'd somehow messed up your internal partitioning, I doubt you could've flashed a rom in the first place, so I really don't think the spl is to blame.
Anyway.. if you want to try it, you can just flash the engineering spl or hardspl through recovery, you don't have to do anything special that way round. Be aware its going to wipe your rom out though so have a copy on the sd ready to flash.

goldenarmZ said:
I don't think that's possible. Once the spl boots the kernel, It doesn't have any further role to play.. I can't imagine any scenario in which it could affect high-level functionality like that. If it'd somehow messed up your internal partitioning, I doubt you could've flashed a rom in the first place, so I really don't think the spl is to blame.
Anyway.. if you want to try it, you can just flash the engineering spl or hardspl through recovery, you don't have to do anything special that way round. Be aware its going to wipe your rom out though so have a copy on the sd ready to flash.
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Okay, thanks for the details on the role of the SPL, it helps a lot. What about re-flashing the radio?

lukekirstein said:
Okay, thanks for the details on the role of the SPL, it helps a lot. What about re-flashing the radio?
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You could try it but it sounds like a software config issue to me.. a corrupt radio would cause a lot more problems than failing mms. just make sure you use haykuro's 26i radio if that's the spl you're using.

You can try reflashing the radio as goldenamrz said...for some unknown reason, the radio seems to be affected after many flashes (ive personally never had any problems but i know it happens)

I'm curious what the result of this was. It sounds to me like this is a good way to brick a phone; I didn't think you could revert to a previous SPL after flashing the DangerSPL. Flashing radios willie nilly seems like that could also spell heartache.

From DangerSPL to HardSPL
I just reverted from DangerSPL to HardSPL with no fuss. Placed the HardSPL as update.zip in the sdcard, run the update, restart.
When it rebooted, i had the HardSPL and my rom almost intact. When you go from Hard to Danger, you need to add the rom again, as the installation does a wipe too. But from Danger to Hard it doesn't. So the phone booted straight away.
However, it had some issues, like lost wifi stored info and the home and call keys were unresponsive. So i used nano and a backup and i was up and running at no time.
The issue i had with receiving but not sending MMS was not solved by reverting to HardSPL. Settings are correct, tried with CyanogenMod and AOSP2.4 With Camera, nothing.. unresolved. I'll wait for next Cyanogen release and if nothing, i'll wipe and reinstall cyanogen from scratch..
edit. problem solved: type "default" at the apn type for DATA (not mms). Apparently, it is needed for the mms to ignore that apn and go for the one that has "mms" as an apn type

[Q] Which compatible radio

First of all, i am very sorry if i made a stupid Question because of my noobs. But i am preparing to flash DangerSPL onto my G1, and still dont know which radio should be chosen. I've been spending hours reading info from several posts on xda but cant find answer yet
There are two radios compatible with DangerSPL
2.22.23.02 for T-mobile/US
2.22.19.26i for Non-US
My current radio is 2.22.20.23
That's what I can't get through. My G1 is a QWERTZ one, which I guess it's a Non-US and 2.22.19.26i is better for me? But the first one is mentioned much more frequently in posts, means it's famous/or better than the other?
Please help me figure out
Thanks very much, and sorry again for my stupid Q

jilee said:
First of all, i am very sorry if i made a stupid Question because of my noobs. But i am preparing to flash DangerSPL onto my G1, and still dont know which radio should be chosen. I've been spending hours reading info from several posts on xda but cant find answer yet
There are two radios compatible with DangerSPL
2.22.23.02 for T-mobile/US
2.22.19.26i for Non-US
My current radio is 2.22.20.23
That's what I can't get through. My G1 is a QWERTZ one, which I guess it's a Non-US and 2.22.19.26i is better for me? But the first one is mentioned much more frequently in posts, means it's famous/or better than the other?
Please help me figure out
Thanks very much, and sorry again for my stupid Q
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Ok, to be successful. You will need to FLASH the radio before the SPL.
You can find both the radio and SPL here http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
DO NOT attempt to downgrade your radio at anytime after installing this SPL as it WILL brick your phone.
If you have additional questions you can read up on the thread here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
Please make sure you read all the posts first before you flash your phone. I hope that helped.

ok thanks much for your help
But those stuffs have been reading over and over by me, and i still can't find out which radio should i flash. The 2.22.23.02 (which refers to smth more common and used by more people) or the 2.22.19.26i ? The sapphire-port-dream website says that the 26i is the latest version
This my first time flashing radio and upgrading to DangerSPL, so i'm very scared of bricking =.= Can you figure out for me which one is for my phone ? Thanks ^^
BTW, my board is a PVT one, rooted, but the very first bootscreen contains a grey and blur G1 in the center and a "T-mobile" (with the red T and four white dots like in the logo of T-mobile) at the bottom of the screen. It's not the all-white-big-centered "T-mobile G1" like most of those i see on the google or youtube. Is there anything important ?
(I can't post images along with this bcause of the new member's restricted right, so i will attact them instead. The worse quality one is mine)

jilee said:
ok thanks much for your help
But those stuffs have been reading over and over by me, and i still can't find out which radio should i flash. The 2.22.23.02 (which refers to smth more common and used by more people) or the 2.22.19.26i ? The sapphire-port-dream website says that the 26i is the latest version
This my first time flashing radio and upgrading to DangerSPL, so i'm very scared of bricking =.= Can you figure out for me which one is for my phone ? Thanks ^^
BTW, my board is a PVT one, rooted, but the very first bootscreen contains a grey and blur G1 in the center and a "T-mobile" (with the red T and four white dots like in the logo of T-mobile) at the bottom of the screen. It's not the all-white-big-centered "T-mobile G1" like most of those i see on the google or youtube. Is there anything important ?
(I can't post images along with this bcause of the new member's restricted right, so i will attact them instead. The worse quality one is mine)
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Splash screen can be changed. To check go to bootloader, power on the phone holding camera button and see what do you have..it will show if you have 32A or 32B board.
1.33.2003 is compatible with 1.x and 2.x radios
1.33.2005 is compatible with 2.x and 3.x radios
So 2.x radio is safest. The combination has to be maintained otherwise you can brick the phone.

DO NOT INSTALL DEATHSPL!!!!
There is NO REASON for it!
What people use it for is obtaining a different flash partition layout on the internal memory. THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
The DEFAULT setup of this yields you a SYSTEM partition that is the SAME SIZE as deathspl, and a USERDATA partition that is ***FIFTEEN MEGABYTES LARGER*** than deathspl.
Install SPL 1.33.2003 (ending with a THREE) and any 2.X radio ***IN ANY ORDER IT DOESN'T MATTER***. ZERO brick risk, and SUPERIOR to deathspl.
Further information;
1) PVT/DVT, DESPITE what some of the feeble minded morons who don't know what they're talking about claim, ****IS IRRELEVANT****. There is *NO DIFFERENCE* between a PVT and a DVT.
2) ALL DREAMS (100% there is not a SINGLE exception) are 32B. The ONLY device where there is any question of whether it is a 32A or B is MAGIC.

Thanks so much lbcoder
It's because i think that deathspl is the only hope in order to get to Cyanogen or CaNNoN roms. And flashing radio and spl somehow is the most risky step :|
Did you mean that, by following that Firerat's guide, i am enabled to flash SPL 1.33.2003 and radio 2.xx in any order? Is 1.33.2003 deathspl or not ? And i want to flash CaNNoN CE 2.2.1, so is this good for me
^^ Thanks again

It doesn't appear that you bothered to read either what I said or the thread I linked you to. READ AGAIN!
There is NO BENEFIT TO DEATHSPL. It does NOTHING USEFUL. There are BETTER WAYS to accomplish the same thing that do NOT involve ANY kind of RISK!
jilee said:
It's because i think that deathspl is the only hope in order to get to Cyanogen or CaNNoN roms.
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Anyone who things that is WRONG.
Did you mean that, by following that Firerat's guide, i am enabled to flash SPL 1.33.2003 and radio 2.xx in any order?
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No. That is not a guide! It is a PROCESS, which has NOTHING to do with flashing radios or SPLs! It has to do with PARTITION TABLES.
Is 1.33.2003 deathspl or not ?
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
And i want to flash CaNNoN CE 2.2.1, so is this good for me
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The SPL has NOTHING to do with what you can flash to the phone. You do NOT need deathSPL. It is POINTLESS. The ONLY thing you accomplish with the deathSPL is that you RISK BRICKING YOUR PHONE!
I suggest the 1.33.2003 SPL because it is a FULL ENGINEERING SPL that is 100% compatible with 0.95.x000 (the SPL that your phone SHIPPED WITH). **IT WILL NOT BRICK**.
Using the recovery-installable patches supplied by Firerat will enable you to flash ANY system image to your phone. NO EXCEPTION.

Ok ok. I am a stupid man, so please don't blame on me ^^
Let me ask a very last question. As i can see from your advise, after flashing those CustomMTD, i can flash ANY system image(ROMs) to my phone without upgrading to 2.xx or the pointless dealthy spl. Is it right? In other words, i still can use CM or CE roms with 0.95.x000 radio?
And is it harmful or not if i want to upgrade to 2.xx radio? (still want smth new :"> )

well, no one ?

0.95.x000 is default SPL, not radio.
You have to flash new SPL (if you're still on default), but not Haykuro/Death/Danger/Apocalipse (1.33.2005) which is not compatible with 1.x radios (and this is common reason of brick), but so called SafeSPL (1.33.2003) which has same low-level access to phone (fastboot, so it's giving you as much as 2005), but it is compatible either with 1.x radios and 2.x radios, so there is no chance to brick.
After you have engineering SPL (2003 or 2005, but in this case we're talking about 2003) you can use MTD Partition Hack to change partition layout on your phone (same thing that is Haykuro doing, but now you can manually resize them in order to get more place for apps in internal memory). This is needed for 2.1+ and Sense ROMs, because they do not fit in standard 70 mb /system partition (they need 90).
When you have both new SPL and /system big enough, you can flash EVERY ROM you want. If there is requirement for HaykuroSPL in OP of ROM thread, IGNORE IT. This is requirement for 90mb /system partition, which now can be achieved also by MTD PH.
Upgrading to 2.x radio is recommended, new radio means better signal reception and less battery drain.

Thank you very much raven. Your answer is very clear and kindly. So, now I have to flash SafeSPL, then MTD PH, and after that I can use any ROMs, and 2.x radio are optional (can flash or not, can flash after the safespl, it doesnt matter) right? I am so excited. Thanks again

I think this order is correct:
Custom recovery (Amon RA or Clockworkmod, ignore this step if you already have custom recovery)
SafeSPL
MTD PH (recovery patch)
ROM flash
MTD PH (ROM/boot patch)
Optional: 2.x radio.
I am glad to help and your thanks made my day . Just remember to put
Code:
90 2
in mtdpartmap.txt on root of sd card to prepare enough space for 2.x ROMs. You may also have to fake Haykuro SPL, which is simply done by editing mtdpartmap.txt in this way
Code:
90 2
spl 1.33.2005
Remember to patch recovery, wipe data&cache&system, reflash/nandbackup ROM and flash boot patch after every change in mtdpartmap.txt.

Thanks again ^^
But i still have a minor question before flashing all those stuffs. Raven please view this post :here and give me an advice whether i should continue according to lbcoder or not ?

quite useful infos. i was about to flash deathSPL, but the fact that the MTD layout gives me 15mb more space, not to mention it cant brick, seriously tempts me.

[Q] Bricked G1 HTC dream

I have bricked my G1, it happend when i updated dangelSpL (dream_magic.hboot-1.33.2005-signed.zip) through recovery mode and then after reboot my G1 is stucked on G1-tmobile screen , I am not able to enter into recovery or fastboot mode, also don't see any warning on computer when its connected to usb wire. Is there any way to fix it or should i just forget it?. ,
I read somewhere then tried formatting sdcard and copied dreamg.nbh, then restarted phone by holding volum down+trackball+power button but it just brought the purple light and nothing happened.

samkhan79 said:
I have bricked my G1, it happend when i updated dangelSpL (dream_magic.hboot-1.33.2005-signed.zip) through recovery mode and then after reboot my G1 is stucked on G1-tmobile screen , I am not able to enter into recovery or fastboot mode, also don't see any warning on computer when its connected to usb wire. Is there any way to fix it or should i just forget it?. ,
I read somewhere then tried formatting sdcard and copied dreamg.nbh, then restarted phone by holding volum down+trackball+power button but it just brought the purple light and nothing happened.
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Either you find someone with JTAG equipment, or your G1 is only useable as a paperweight now ...
Really speaking, I don't know why nowadays
1) someone is still using "DangerSPL", because it's proved to be useless for the T-Mobile G1 (use 1.33.2003 instead)
2) if someone still want's to use it, why he is flashing it by recovery mode
3) if nevertheless he wants to use it, he doesn't check twice the requirements before flashing

i was following guidliness from here.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Dream:_DangerSPL#Flashing_Radio
So even if someone has JTAG equipment , how they can fix it ???

samkhan79 said:
i was following guidliness from here.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Dream:_DangerSPL#Flashing_Radio
So even if someone has JTAG equipment , how they can fix it ???
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Didn't use JTAG up tzo now, but a guide can be found on the Cyanogenmod Wiki.
Btw. in the guide you are referring to it's written in red letters: "before flashing check if you have a compatible radio installed" ...

AndDiSa said:
Didn't use JTAG up tzo now, but a guide can be found on the Cyanogenmod Wiki.
Btw. in the guide you are referring to it's written in red letters: "before flashing check if you have a compatible radio installed" ...
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I am sure i was on radio 2.22.23.02

samkhan79 said:
I am sure i was on radio 2.22.23.02
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Are you sure all ways to get into fastboot don't work?
Because I know that with some SPLs the buttons switch around
Try the following: Camera+Power, Call+Power, Back+Power
Because I know that when I bricked my G1 with improper SPL (semi on purpose since i knew i had an extra mobo), the G1 screen didn't show.
AndDiSa, I think you mean 1.33.0013d
And I use DangerSPL every once in a while to use ROMs older than eclair
And how else would you do it?
You don't exactly start with an engineering SPL on the dream, so you can't flash a SPL through fastboot, leaving the only way to be recovery.

frankdrey said:
Are you sure all ways to get into fastboot don't work?
Because I know that with some SPLs the buttons switch around
Try the following: Camera+Power, Call+Power, Back+Power
Because I know that when I bricked my G1 with improper SPL (semi on purpose since i knew i had an extra mobo), the G1 screen didn't show.
AndDiSa, I think you mean 1.33.0013d
And I use DangerSPL every once in a while to use ROMs older than eclair
And how else would you do it?
You don't exactly start with an engineering SPL on the dream, so you can't flash a SPL through fastboot, leaving the only way to be recovery.
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no he means 1.33.2003
http://rapidshare.com/files/388568285/g1boot.zip
a different engineering spl that is safer than the danger spl, but yes why not use 1.33.0013d, most older roms just need a different kernel to be flashed over them to work so use it! but you do need an engineering spl to get there...

demkantor said:
no he means 1.33.2003
http://rapidshare.com/files/388568285/g1boot.zip
a different engineering spl that is safer than the danger spl, but yes why not use 1.33.0013d, most older roms just need a different kernel to be flashed over them to work so use it! but you do need an engineering spl to get there...
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Oh ok I see

demkantor said:
no he means 1.33.2003
http://rapidshare.com/files/388568285/g1boot.zip
a different engineering spl that is safer than the danger spl, but yes why not use 1.33.0013d, most older roms just need a different kernel to be flashed over them to work so use it! but you do need an engineering spl to get there...
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1.33.0013d has only limited fastboot capabilities, so should not be the first choice, but 1.33.2003 is an full engineering SPL compatible with 1.x and 2.x radio, from there you can flash easily new radios and/or SPLs.
Sent from my Gingerbread on Dream using XDA App

Yes but to start with (on stock) the only way to flash an engineering spl is through recovery since stock has a non engineering spl which doesn't support fastboot flash
Sent from my Dream/Sapphire using Tapatalk

frankdrey said:
Are you sure all ways to get into fastboot don't work?
Because I know that with some SPLs the buttons switch around
Try the following: Camera+Power, Call+Power, Back+Power
Because I know that when I bricked my G1 with improper SPL (semi on purpose since i knew i had an extra mobo), the G1 screen didn't show.
AndDiSa, I think you mean 1.33.0013d
And I use DangerSPL every once in a while to use ROMs older than eclair
And how else would you do it?
You don't exactly start with an engineering SPL on the dream, so you can't flash a SPL through fastboot, leaving the only way to be recovery.
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Yes I have already tried all the options, and i have given up hope coz even the computer doesn't show any activity when i connect it to computer through usb and switch it on. So You think i shouldn't have used dream_magic.hboot-1.33.2005-signed.zip?

Egh, its not exactly your fault
If you had the correct radio and it bricked....that's just a freak accident....
Oh well, I guess your g1 is done
You might be able to get someone to unbrick it for you with JTAG