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Hello alll..
New here.........
Just received a Bell XT860 (Droid 3) and was reading on here about rooting the phone.
Just wondering what advantage rooting provides and if it's worth the risk??
All feedback welcome
Cheers
Yes 100% worth it you can overclock and install apks that needs superuser and it's totally safe...
Sent from my rooted XT860
dont be too misguided. while using root has its advantages, you can permanently ruin your phone. and i believe the xt860 does not have a safe restore. rooting can allow you to remove bloatware from the phone and do other neat tricks, but there is a reason you dont have root by default
Is there any chance of a safe restore ever being developed for this phone?
Cheers
i couldnt tell you there. do some reading and use the search function. its not as scary as you think but dont just jump in and start deleting stuff or you will regret it.
If I couldn't root the phone I have now, I'd trade it in for a freebee phone and get a really good MP3 player. Yes, there is some real risk, I've bricked twice in as many years, but with some research and help was able to recover both phones. I enjoy the learning process and having something a bit more unique, not to mention a huge difference in functionality.
I had a bad backup and I had to SBF twice. It is pretty fool proof.
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i am bout to buy the gnote..have been reading about rooting nd custom rom..nd want to rotate homescreen..
As far as i know ther are more cons than pros to rooting..such as bricking..
But some ppl get faulty phones with bad battery life, auto shutdown, lags..over heating..
I dont know what to do..
I do think that its a great phone nd wont require rooting..as ics is coming..nd hopefully jellybean soon after that..
I just dont kno wat to do..i want advice frm some1 who reali is a 'knowitall'
thanks..
Will remember to hit thnx button for the best replies..
Nd could u guide about why should sum1 overclock a fast processor :S
begimaad said:
i am bout to buy the gnote..have been reading about rooting nd custom rom..nd want to rotate homescreen..
As far as i know ther are more cons than pros to rooting..such as bricking..
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There's no cons to rooting whatsoever, provided the user reads and follows the rooting guide in the Dev section. It's easy and trouble-free. There's been but a single instance (Angelom's ICS kernel combined with touch-recovery) of mass bricking. That kernel is out of circulation now, so nothing to fear there.
All other 'plz help, bricked' threads are created by the people who were careless and didn't read, period.
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But some ppl get faulty phones with bad battery life, auto shutdown, lags..over heating..
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Battery life depends on what user does with their phone, IMO. If one keeps all syncing, GPS, data and whatnot on all the time, their battery will be shot on any phone.
begimaad said:
Nd could u guide about why should sum1 overclock a fast processor :S
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No reason I can think of apart from bragging about benchmark results.
wow duude!
Cheers like, your reply was just great!
Yeh! I just stick to Dr. Ketans guide to rootin as tis easy to understand and great. Others have so much updates and editin it becomes hard to keep track as my net provider is messed up... i get only 5-6 kbps
Should i actually get a custom rom, or its no use as the stock rom and ics is coming up.
Is gnote actually worth it or should i get some other phone ( N.B. i am getting the phone imported and i wont have warranty applicable after shipping it out of europe... and the sending faulty phones back from here is risky as it hardly makes it through due to customs.
I also had some hard time thinking about buying SGN. Now I have it for 2 weeks running on stock ROM (I don't have time now for rooting $ stuff...) and I don't have any problem at all.
My advise - Go For It!
begimaad said:
Cheers like, your reply was just great!
Yeh! I just stick to Dr. Ketans guide to rootin as tis easy to understand and great. Others have so much updates and editin it becomes hard to keep track as my net provider is messed up... i get only 5-6 kbps
Should i actually get a custom rom, or its no use as the stock rom and ics is coming up.
Is gnote actually worth it or should i get some other phone ( N.B. i am getting the phone imported and i wont have warranty applicable after shipping it out of europe... and the sending faulty phones back from here is risky as it hardly makes it through due to customs.
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If you follow the exact method described in the Dr. Ketans guide thread there's no risk of bricking.
At present you cannot find a power house like this in the market... Even you can make this device much more powerful upto 1.7 ghz speed... Nothing can beat this at the moment (as per my knowledge) So if you want power house like this, there's no other option than buying this beast. Definitely it worth it.
Regarding custom rom... Its good but if you wanna feel like this device is made exactly for you.. Go for a custom rom.. Its lots of fun and excitement.. You can make this to work which ever way up want..
Buy it.. And make others envy..
One thing I will say, get a case for it straight away. The placement of the power/volume buttons make it a hard phone to use "naked". I got a rubber bumper case and used box cutters to take out the notches where the buttons are, to make them recessed to allow me to hold the phone how I prefer. Makes the whole experience much more comfy especially for gaming.
P.S. Overclocking reduces the lifespan of any device. You're trading lifespan for speed. If anything I would underclock it to give it better thermal control.
Guys did you know what is the best retail price to buy a GNote and the site
I purchased my Samsung Galaxy Note around 1.5 months ago and, whilst the device like all of its many competitors has undeniable flaws, I have been relatively impressed so far. Yet, as a replacement for both my phone or tablet (which is what I originally purchased it as), I felt it hasn't quite filled the slot of a tablet entirely for me. The Nexus 7 Google unveiled yesterday is extremely tempting; there are some amazing specifications on offer for the money. Yet, for just 2 inches extra of screen real estate, I find it hard to justify the cost. I'm looking to optimise my device as a tablet, whilst retaining phone functionality in full, and Paranoid Android looks to fill that. But, first I have some questions.
The S-Pen was a big appeal to me when purchasing the Note, as I use S Planner, S Memo and S Note to effectively manage my school homework tasks. It's proved really helpful and I'd hate to lose it. So, will it be possible to get the S-Pen apps mentioned above working in full with the S-Pen on Paranoid Android? Is it possible to also get the screenshot functionality using the secondary button on the pen working on this ROM?
I am running the stock ICS, which is infected with the brick bug. Being only 14, I don't have much technological know-how and ruining my phone would get me in serious trouble with my parents (I can't afford another phone if I were to break it). How difficult is it to safely install this ROM? I assume it isn't affected by a dodgy kernel?
How is the performance and battery life for this ROM? Is it an improvement or decrease in terms of battery from the stock ROM? Does running in tablet mode on this ROM use more battery?
When you install this ROM, do you then have to still root it? If so, how can I root this ROM? Also, can you over-clock and under-clock the processor on this ROM?
Finally, is it possible to still use Kies with this ROM installed (both Air and plugged into computer versions)? I also would like a way to back-up and restore my main contacts too should I successfully install this ROM.
I have always wondered this, but could you find a phone shop who'd do this for you for a price obviously?
Phone shops.... maybe ??
Ebay.. Hell yes !!
OR..... You could just read the guides, take your time and do it yourself Save you some money and you will learn A LOT too !!
Its really not as hard as it looks, Its overwhelming at first, But slowly take your time and it will all make sense
azzledazzle said:
Phone shops.... maybe ??
Ebay.. Hell yes !!
OR..... You could just read the guides, take your time and do it yourself Save you some money and you will learn A LOT too !!
Its really not as hard as it looks, Its overwhelming at first, But slowly take your time and it will all make sense
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So, what guides do I begin with? And, I'm not sending my phone off to somebody on eBay to have it flashed...
Brad387 said:
[*]The S-Pen was a big appeal to me when purchasing the Note, as I use S Planner, S Memo and S Note to effectively manage my school homework tasks. It's proved really helpful and I'd hate to lose it. So, will it be possible to get the S-Pen apps mentioned above working in full with the S-Pen on Paranoid Android? Is it possible to also get the screenshot functionality using the secondary button on the pen working on this ROM?
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You will lose all S pen apps and features, Your S-pen will become a stylus, However there are similar apps to the S note ect. on the market, Just have a look around and check the themes and app sections, Also ask what other users are using
[*]I am running the stock ICS, which is infected with the brick bug. Being only 14, I don't have much technological know-how and ruining my phone would get me in serious trouble with my parents (I can't afford another phone if I were to break it). How difficult is it to safely install this ROM? I assume it isn't affected by a dodgy kernel?
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For me, its easy, Because i know how to do it, If you dont know, READ, READ, READ, DO NOT RUSH !!. If in doubt..........ASK !
If you are on GB already, the process is much simpler
[*]How is the performance and battery life for this ROM? Is it an improvement or decrease in terms of battery from the stock ROM? Does running in tablet mode on this ROM use more battery?
[*]When you install this ROM, do you then have to still root it? If so, how can I root this ROM? Also, can you over-clock and under-clock the processor on this ROM?
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The performance is epic ! AOSP is a absolute beauty, Battery life is good, 99% of battery drain is down to the user and their setup. So get it right and you'll be fine. Tablet mode doesnt use any more battery than phone mode would, The ROM is pre-rooted so thats another thing you dont have to worry about. Also, You *CAN* over clock if the kernel supports it. However, I really doubt you will need any OC on this ROM as its immensely fast.
[*]Finally, is it possible to still use Kies with this ROM installed (both Air and plugged into computer versions)? I also would like a way to back-up and restore my main contacts too should I successfully install this ROM.
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Kies is a samsung app, So it will not work on an AOSP ROM, google backs up your contacts, and if you are rooted, Titanium backup will also back them up, along with all your apps, messages, data and pretty much anything else for that matter.
EDIT: start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
So, if I'm not mistaken, this is what I have to do...
Root the stock ICS.
Flash back to Gingerbread.
Flash on Paranoid Android ROM.
Is there absolutely no way to transfer over the S-Pen apps? Also, are there any apps which allow you to capture screenshots on Android as that is a pretty useful feature for me. If anyone would be willing, perhaps I could add them on Google+ or alternatively message them on here as this is all very intimidating to me, yet the shown results for this ROM look amazing. The idea of using the tablet version of my apps, which are often the better versions, appeals to me.
On a side note...
Also, is there any news of Samsung releasing a fix for the brick bug and, if we are a sufferer of it, wouldn't the update be a danger as it would need to wipe data?
Brad387 said:
So, if I'm not mistaken, this is what I have to do...
Root the stock ICS.
Flash back to Gingerbread.
Flash on Paranoid Android ROM.
Is there absolutely no way to transfer over the S-Pen apps? Also, are there any apps which allow you to capture screenshots on Android as that is a pretty useful feature for me. If anyone would be willing, perhaps I could add them on Google+ or alternatively message them on here as this is all very intimidating to me, yet the shown results for this ROM look amazing. The idea of using the tablet version of my apps, which are often the better versions, appeals to me.
On a side note...
Also, is there any news of Samsung releasing a fix for the brick bug and, if we are a sufferer of it, wouldn't the update be a danger as it would need to wipe data?
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You can pm me.
No need to root ics just flash gingerbead using odin pc. Then root and install cwm then yes flash paraniod.
The s apps require samsung frame work which is only in stock roms sorry but there other apps on the market and yea there aee plent of screen shoot apps to
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zacthespack said:
You can pm me.
No need to root ics just flash gingerbead using odin pc. Then root and install cwm then yes flash paraniod.
The s apps require samsung frame work which is only in stock roms sorry but there other apps on the market and yea there aee plent of screen shoot apps to
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Sent you a PM.
Worst case scenario? Could I permanently ruin my phone if I messed this up?
yes but you wont
you could potentially die crossing a road, but you're careful so you dont lol, same method applies
azzledazzle said:
yes but you wont
you could potentially die crossing a road, but you're careful so you dont lol, same method applies
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I suppose so, but I'm still not sure if it is worth the risk. Anyone here tried Paranoid Android by the way? Does it work well?
Damn! I really want this ROM, but I see my attempts to install most definitely not ending well...
Don't know what to do?
In your situation I would not attempt to do anything flashing, rooting, etc. to your phone until you have read, read, and read enough to the point where you feel that you have a pretty good understanding of what you're doing and you're confident enough to make the attempt to root, flash, etc. You and you alone are responsible for any errors occurred during the rooting, flashing process and that's why it's VERY IMPORTANT TO READ AND UNDERSTAND BEFORE DOING ANYTHING TO YOUR DEVICE!
I did this myself a few days ago. First i thought it is very difficult. After i did it, i thought it is very easy.
Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
Problem is, the instructions are not really step by step, and they are not very clear either.
The basic steps:
Note that you should probably backup your internal memory like contacts, smses, apps, etc.
Use google account to sync, SMSbak, APPbak, and titanium backup, all from google play store.
Then:
Install GB 2.3.5, links in post above. This is totally safe using odin. You can't brick your phone by this.
Then, get the cf-root kernel that matches your selected GB kernel, from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
Unzip and merge with the install script and then Flash as per instruction.
Now you have a rooted GB kernel with the required 'CWM recovery console'.
Download the PA rom as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802 and save to internal memory [or maybe to sd card].
Reboot into recovery console by pressing power+ vol up+ home button until samsung logo appears. Let go and you are in CWM.
Flash as per PA post above. Then select the several options to clear the various caches, as per PA post.
That's it. Reboot.
Hello everyone,
I'm new here,
Starting this thread so that beginners and new users (like me) can know about what people have done with their monsters and what they are capable of!
Tell me about your favorite top 10 apps and must haves!
Reason for choosing Droid 3?
I'd also like to know if some serious droidians can provide links on how to achieve what they have!
Would also like if they can tell users like me what should be done with their Droid 3 if they just took it out of the box!
I have a Motorola Droid 3 Verizon [XT862 (its obvious but still)],
5.6.890.xt862.verizon.en.us (I think its stock rom, but I could be wrong)
Using it in India.
And thats all I know about it.
Its not even rooted.
My reason for choosing Droid 3:
I wanted something solid, which felt like a monster in my hand, not like the new phones being thin and light as a paper, I needed something heavy! The large screen, 8 mp cam, 16+16 Gb memory are just add-ons to the list,
the main reason being the 5 row physical keyboard. I did not find any other phone with k/b with such screen and cam. And Motorola is well known for being modded and customized!
Share anything and everything you can, it is always helpful to someone!
Tell us about different processes of flashing, about roms, latest updates and so on.
Very excited to hear from y'all!
Hope. to get some really interesting and helpful posts!
Don't forget to have fun while doing this and help as many people as you can
Thanks a lot.
Really?
Really guys,
no one?
I was hoping to get some really good feedback!
Kinda old phone! I got it because i wanted the original but went with the Droid Incredible for processor. So I saw the droid 3 and it looked just as good.
Phone is end of life. These discussions have been had many times before. People are waiting to upgrade to a better phone.
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Droid Incredible?
Isn't it a cdma phone? With 1Ghz processor?
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Oh, I see.
But buddy, this discussion is not only about the features of the phone but more about what can one do or should do if they just got it.
This phone is not available at the place I'm using it. Specs are incredible, except for the software update.
I do not see a single phone with a keyboard like this with such a screen over here.
Even though it is an old phone, I got it regardless of its lousy software update.
And therefore I wanted to know, what people are doing with their droid3 regarding software?
I wanted to know which rom are they using and what apps are must haves!
Thats all.
Thank you all for reading.
Rom toolbox, safestrap3, thats all i recommend for must have apps.
Run stock for a while, and then put on safestrap and see what roms you like.
You can also use the ubuntu install app in the market if you want a linux distribution, worked ok on my droid3.
If you like at&t or tmobile, use the radio hack to skip verizon.
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Okay so for your info: safestrap 3.0, Mavrom 4.5 on .906 base. Waiting for May for new phone upgrade!
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I just scored a d4 off ebay will be here in 7-13 days lol oh well..lest I can keep my unlimited data and cost less then doing the upgrade lol
ill still be here in the d3 forums though as my wife has a d3 so I keep it current plus I love you guys..
Right back at ya!
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We do too!!
And guys, can any one of you confirm if I flash with any rom, would it affect my unlock?
Using it overseas.
Thanks a lot guys.
Allan Guigan said:
We do too!!
And guys, can any one of you confirm if I flash with any rom, would it affect my unlock?
Using it overseas.
Thanks a lot guys.
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you shouldn't loose unlock but if the rom wasn't dev'd for your specific device..ie..xt862,xt860 ect you might have to flash the proper radio and build prop
Hello. I am totally new to rooting. I've done a lot of research, and usually because I can't really understand a lot of the jargon or instructions I just kind of stay away from it. Well, now that I've had to give up my Nexus 4 for an the older Droid 3, I'm finding it difficult going back a few generations and the lack of fluidity is very bothersome. The best suggestions I've gotten is to root. Can someone please help me by breaking down some step by step instructions? (I'm really at a loss as to how to get started, and since this is my only device after having to let go of the Nexus I can't really afford to accidentally brick it). Also I've also noticed that a lot of the roms have issues with the Droid's camera, so can someone advise me on the best one to use once I've rooted as well? Thanks a lot.
If you want a fast smooth rom I say go with minimoto
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