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okay so i just started to get my phone ready to hack, but when i want to save my apps with titanium it says: your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. to correct this go to yourphones settings, then in "applications" and tick the "unknown sources" check box.
so i go to settings--->applications---> than i get thismanage applications, running services, development, usp settings.
were is the unknown sources check box?
rar26 said:
okay so i just started to get my phone ready to hack, but when i want to save my apps with titanium it says: your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. to correct this go to yourphones settings, then in "applications" and tick the "unknown sources" check box.
so i go to settings--->applications---> than i get thismanage applications, running services, development, usp settings.
were is the unknown sources check box?
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You have to enable sideloading. With the captivate it is not available through settings because of at&t
Roms like cognition if you choose to flash it will enable sideloading.
Make sure you get rom. Manager from the market and read up on it
Use appbrain from market to easily restore all apps. Without enabled sideload.
I am a noob as well, but these are key steps before you start messing around especially rom manager
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be careful what you delete using titanium. What ever you do, do not get rid of any Google talk apps
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Okay i have just flashed to cog217. How do we get the samsung widgets back? I like the facebook and swipe!
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks
Rar26
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mcord11758 said:
be careful what you delete using titanium. What ever you do, do not get rid of any Google talk apps
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It's ok if he does. I have a thread where you can download the 3 necessary .apk's needed for Talk to work properly.
See this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773272
rar26 said:
Okay i have just flashed to cog217. How do we get the samsung widgets back? I like the facebook and swipe!
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks
Rar26
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You'll have to sideload the widget. Cognition does not have AT&T or Samsung bloatware. I'll attach the facebook widget to this post. As for swype, I don't think it was left out of Cognition, but I'll attach that too.
oh man...thank you a bunch!!
No problem. You're very welcome
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I just restored to cog 2.1.7 and titanium backup isn't restoring the apps, it's been sitting on the first one for about 5 minutes now and hasn't moved on. any suggestions?
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paincorp said:
I just restored to cog 2.1.7 and titanium backup isn't restoring the apps, it's been sitting on the first one for about 5 minutes now and hasn't moved on. any suggestions?
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For the many people who are having problems with Titanium, 3 things:
1 - there is only 1 version of titanium. what makes it the paid version is a text file called titaniumBackupLicense.txt that contains your info. it goes in memory, just like the titaniumbackup folder.
2 - you must have debugging enabled or it goes VERY slow
3 - in titanium, press the menu button, got to preferences. All the way at the bottom is "app processing mode". change to "auto, indirect" and reboot, then run the batch.
I hope this helps
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mcord11758 said:
You have to enable sideloading. With the captivate it is not available through settings because of at&t
Roms like cognition if you choose to flash it will enable sideloading.
Make sure you get rom. Manager from the market and read up on it
Use appbrain from market to easily restore all apps. Without enabled sideload.
I am a noob as well, but these are key steps before you start messing around especially rom manager
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I have had many phones and have always looked here for improvements. My Captivate Galaxy S is the best one so far. This info about first having to sideload the phone before using Titanium is key. Had I known my phone needs to be flashed in order to use Titanium I would not have purchased it. And all of the other info about odin, appbrain, rom manager, etc is scattered everywhere. There is nothing straight ahead about any of this. And sometimes when people put of good info with good intentions they assume you know all of the terminology and tech talk which is not always the case. Its easy to make a mistake since all these tools are dependent on each other. I want to backup my apps, data, and rom, but I am only willing to go so far and do not want to flash my phone right now since there have been way too many screw ups. I am content to wait for the offical AT&T release of 2.2. Sometimes when someone asks a question he/she runs the risk of being ridiculed for not reading thru everything. I don remember it being so nasty here before. I'll continue to try and FIND and DECIPHER what I need to backup the phone but asking a question can be hazardous to your health.
panflute said:
I have had many phones and have always looked here for improvements. My Captivate Galaxy S is the best one so far. This info about first having to sideload the phone before using Titanium is key. Had I known my phone needs to be flashed in order to use Titanium I would not have purchased it. And all of the other info about odin, appbrain, rom manager, etc is scattered everywhere. There is nothing straight ahead about any of this. And sometimes when people put of good info with good intentions they assume you know all of the terminology and tech talk which is not always the case. Its easy to make a mistake since all these tools are dependent on each other. I want to backup my apps, data, and rom, but I am only willing to go so far and do not want to flash my phone right now since there have been way too many screw ups. I am content to wait for the offical AT&T release of 2.2. Sometimes when someone asks a question he/she runs the risk of being ridiculed for not reading thru everything. I don remember it being so nasty here before. I'll continue to try and FIND and DECIPHER what I need to backup the phone but asking a question can be hazardous to your health.
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first of all. all the info is here. its important to read and understand what it is you are doing before you dive in. I realize that its all scattered around, but just figure out what you want to do and then focus on understanding that one thing. then move on to the next.
secondly. you do not have to flash a rom in order to enable sideloading, have a look in the dev section, or in the apps section. there is a one click decrippler that will enable sideloading, or it can be done manually. It is not hard if you follow directions.
ok
Pirateghost said:
first of all. all the info is here. its important to read and understand what it is you are doing before you dive in. I realize that its all scattered around, but just figure out what you want to do and then focus on understanding that one thing. then move on to the next.
secondly. you do not have to flash a rom in order to enable sideloading, have a look in the dev section, or in the apps section. there is a one click decrippler that will enable sideloading, or it can be done manually. It is not hard if you follow directions.
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Thanks for the reply.
I rooted my Galaxy S, installed the USB drivers, installed NET 4.0. Ran one click OCD and it said it was sucessful. I did this in order make Titanium backup work. But Titanium is still giving a message saying to tick "unknown sources" under applications in order to enable restoring apps, however unknown sources is still nowhere to be found. I only saw the one comment about unknown sources that said i needed to enable side apps to make it visible and that it is not there because of AT&T restrictions. Since i enabled side apps is there something else that Titanium requires to work properly? If I can't get it going what would be a good second choice for making backups? thanks
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Thanks for the reply.
I rooted my Galaxy S, installed the USB drivers, installed NET 4.0. Ran one click OCD and it said it was sucessful. I did this in order make Titanium backup work. But Titanium is still giving a message saying to tick "unknown sources" under applications in order to enable restoring apps, however unknown sources is still nowhere to be found. I only saw the one comment about unknown sources that said i needed to enable side apps to make it visible and that it is not there because of AT&T restrictions. Since i enabled side apps am I missing something else? thanks
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The unknown sources checkbox is an i9000 thing. It doesn't appear in regular captivate roms, though you can still do what needs to be done. You have 2 choices, IMO:
1 - Install a rom that is already sideloading-enabled (which is pretty much any rom)
or
2 - Pay for 2 apps that are worth it..... Buy and install Root Explorer.... navigate to /dbdata/databases/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db and copy it to /sdcard. Then, When you try to open it, it'll say you need to buy and install sqlite editor... buy it and install..... go to secure...... line 3, install_non_market_apps.... change the value from 0 to 1, then save and exit. Then, copy it back where you got it from and reboot
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Thanks for the reply.
I rooted my Galaxy S, installed the USB drivers, installed NET 4.0. Ran one click OCD and it said it was sucessful. I did this in order make Titanium backup work. But Titanium is still giving a message saying to tick "unknown sources" under applications in order to enable restoring apps, however unknown sources is still nowhere to be found. I only saw the one comment about unknown sources that said i needed to enable side apps to make it visible and that it is not there because of AT&T restrictions. Since i enabled side apps is there something else that Titanium requires to work properly? If I can't get it going what would be a good second choice for making backups? thanks
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Obviously OCD did not work then. I never trust one click methods personally. Go through the process manually
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techmik67 said:
The unknown sources checkbox is an i9000 thing. It doesn't appear in regular captivate roms, though you can still do what needs to be done. You have 2 choices, IMO:
1 - Install a rom that is already sideloading-enabled (which is pretty much any rom)
or
2 - Pay for 2 apps that are worth it..... Buy and install Root Explorer.... navigate to /dbdata/databases/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db and copy it to /sdcard. Then, When you try to open it, it'll say you need to buy and install sqlite editor...... go to secure...... line 3, install_non_market_apps.... change the value from 0 to 1, then save and exit. Then, copy it back where you got it from and reboot
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I personally did #2. Works great. Just search for sideloaing on youtube, they have a couple ok videos on the process.
But just remember, make a back up of your original file..!!
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DONE !
Wonderful! Got root explorer and the editor and backuped and edited the db file and now Titanium works. Thanks very much. I am a backup nut and I can't sleep when my computers and phones are not fully recoverable. Now onto Titanium and the rest. Thanks again!
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Wonderful! Got root explorer and the editor and backuped and edited the db file and now Titanium works. Thanks very much. I am a backup nut and I can't sleep when my computers and phones are not fully recoverable. Now onto Titanium and the rest. Thanks again!
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Glad to hear you got it going....
Happy Modding!!
I've given up trying to get full access to the Market. But I was able to find some of the apks on my Droid and was able to bring some of them over using a usb thumb drive. However, not all the apps I had downloaded to my Droid was visible. My question is do some apps delete their apks when done installing? I did have some that gave me a parse error when trying to install them on my tablet. Is there a hidden directory where I can find all the apks of the apps I've downloaded? e.g xplane, rush hour to name a few? Thanks. Or... is there a way to download the apk from Market to my PC directly? I'd be so happy if I could just get full access to google market!
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I've given up trying to get full access to the Market. But I was able to find some of the apks on my Droid and was able to bring some of them over using a usb thumb drive. However, not all the apps I had downloaded to my Droid was visible. My question is do some apps delete their apks when done installing? I did have some that gave me a parse error when trying to install them on my tablet. Is there a hidden directory where I can find all the apks of the apps I've downloaded? e.g xplane, rush hour to name a few? Thanks. Or... is there a way to download the apk from Market to my PC directly? I'd be so happy if I could just get full access to google market!
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The apks are usually in your data/apps or data/apps-private. You should be able to get to these directories using RootExplorer on your phone if its rooted. Then get yourself a free Dropbox account which allows you to transfer files to any device you installed Dropbox on.
Look in these two locations. In the second one (/mnt/asec) you'll see the folder name of the app and inside that folder is the pkg.apk so you'll probably want to rename after you move it.
/data/app
and
/mnt/asec/(name of app)
Have you tried these methods yet?
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I've given up trying to get full access to the Market. But I was able to find some of the apks on my Droid and was able to bring some of them over using a usb thumb drive. However, not all the apps I had downloaded to my Droid was visible. My question is do some apps delete their apks when done installing? I did have some that gave me a parse error when trying to install them on my tablet. Is there a hidden directory where I can find all the apks of the apps I've downloaded? e.g xplane, rush hour to name a few? Thanks. Or... is there a way to download the apk from Market to my PC directly? I'd be so happy if I could just get full access to google market!
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Bluetooth File Transfer might help.
I put this link up a few days ago because I had the same problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930036
Also, This video really worked for me with getting full market (roughly 98.9% really)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l-nySibzeA&feature=related
Reggie 777, thanks for asking this question. I've been trying to figure out the same thing and asked about it in another thread but didn't get a clear answer.
So, to the experts: do you have to be rooted to do this? I've looked in both of the locations that tcrews mentioned and don't see much, if anything. I'm using Astro FileManager, if that helps.
Thanks
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Reggie 777, thanks for asking this question. I've been trying to figure out the same thing and asked about it in another thread but didn't get a clear answer.
So, to the experts: do you have to be rooted to do this? I've looked in both of the locations that tcrews mentioned and don't see much, if anything. I'm using Astro FileManager, if that helps.
Thanks
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Astro doesn't show the files in /data and you'll need to be rooted and use something like Root Explorer. I just tried Astro and once I go in to /data I see nothing (and my phone is rooted). Using Root Explorer I see all the folders under /data and go into the folder app. I see my apps installed internally there and in /mnt/asec I see my apps installed to SDcard there.
wordweaver27 said:
Reggie 777, thanks for asking this question. I've been trying to figure out the same thing and asked about it in another thread but didn't get a clear answer.
So, to the experts: do you have to be rooted to do this? I've looked in both of the locations that tcrews mentioned and don't see much, if anything. I'm using Astro FileManager, if that helps.
Thanks
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No root neccessary to use Bluetooth File Transfer method.
I can only guess you need root for the method on the video because you do need to have an OS with GAPPS and Android market installed.
Root is needed to use Root explorer methed.
The Z4root1.2.2 app is a good tool to root without unlocking the bootloader and you can still keep your stock OS. However I'm assuming GAPPS may not work correctly with the stock TAPNTAP OS so getting full Google Android market with that OS is prolly not going to happen.
Thanks to everyone for the help. I am processing and digesting the info and playing around with the suggestions.
Thanks to sjmoreno for telling me where the apps are. And also tcrews. I would never have thought of looking in /mnt/sec. I was actually able to find the apks I was looking for... xplane. et al. Now I'm fiddling with the bluetooth transfer. Got the phone and tablet paired... connection is not working yet. But I'm still trying.
Thanks too to tekrhino for the bluetooth suggestion. Got the transfer program for my Droid. I'm learning how to use it. Seems easy to set up, but won't actually send anything... Still exploring it.
The video on the Market fix doesn't work for me because no matter what I do, Market does not show up in the running apps section of settings. It doesn't even show up in system apps. It only shows up in the downloaded section.
As they said in Galaxy Quest... "Never Give Up. Never Surrender." Thanks everyone.
I use TitaniumBackup syncing with dropbox, but really the market fix isnt hard... Running tntlite larest.
+1 for dropbox. You can also use astro to backup the apk's. They are stored in a folder named backup on the root of your SD card.
I use the program AndroZIP from the Market on my phone.
Do an application backup (part of the app) to my SDCard (it creates a app_backup folder on your SDcard)
Then, you can do bluetooth transfer, or plug phone and gTablet into PC with USB cables, wait for the drives to show up, and move the APK files over. Works well. No root required.
Since my phone is not rooted, I am not sure if this is grabing every application, but it seems to be. I was able to transfer whatever I wanted over from my phone to the tablet this way.
+1 titanium backup and dropbox.
Dropbox is handy but not necessary. Titanium is a must have purchase if you enjoy flashing new roms and don't feel like manually restoring all your apps and settings every time.
If you can download titanium to your Gtab your done. Dl titanium on your phone and backup your apps. Grab the file off your phones SD And move it to your Gtab. Open titanium on your Gtab and select the apps you want to install. You can even save app data this way and continue saved games from your phone ;-)
Reggie777 said:
Thanks to everyone for the help. I am processing and digesting the info and playing around with the suggestions.
Thanks to sjmoreno for telling me where the apps are. And also tcrews. I would never have thought of looking in /mnt/sec. I was actually able to find the apks I was looking for... xplane. et al. Now I'm fiddling with the bluetooth transfer. Got the phone and tablet paired... connection is not working yet. But I'm still trying.
Thanks too to tekrhino for the bluetooth suggestion. Got the transfer program for my Droid. I'm learning how to use it. Seems easy to set up, but won't actually send anything... Still exploring it.
The video on the Market fix doesn't work for me because no matter what I do, Market does not show up in the running apps section of settings. It doesn't even show up in system apps. It only shows up in the downloaded section.
As they said in Galaxy Quest... "Never Give Up. Never Surrender." Thanks everyone.
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Make sure both devices have BTFT installed, that way you won't have any any problems with FTP OBEX protocals.
The app works great and reduces the extra steps you need to take with TB and DB with having to move apk's between the source device to your pc then from your pc to the target device. BTFT is a good source device to target device app.
Most posts on this are two years old and links no longer work to files needed...
I have never rooted my SGH-T679 but now I keep getting notices that the phone memory is low. I would like to root without touching the rom on the phone so that I can finally dump the bloatware. I have read the XDA thread on rooting this phone and the links to root-stock.zip - 1.62 MB no longer work - come up file deleted or missing. Also second file required - ClockworkMod (? - not sure the name) also comes up as not found.
Yes, it is an old phone (actually only three years old) and I can't afford a another one right now. If I can still root this phone I can get more years out of it. And I like the Gingerbread rom it has.
Also - will the rooting process wipe out all currently downloaded and installed apps? I'd like to avoid that too if possible.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
Rooting wipes nothing. Links work fine for me. Perhaps dev-host was down at the time.
http://d-h.st/s9X root
http://d-h.st/O36 cwm
Are you talking about storage space? Removing bloat will not help as that only frees up system space which most apps won't use. If you mean actual memory rooting alone won't help and removing bloat won't help at all. These phones have very little memory and the only thing that will really help is a kit kat ROM as they have been optimized for phones with 512mb memory. Tweaks are mainly a placebo as @ArtfulDodger found out for us through extensive testing.
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Dvarl said:
Rooting wipes nothing. Links work fine for me. Perhaps dev-host was down at the time.
http://d-h.st/s9X root
http://d-h.st/O36 cwm
Are you talking about storage space? Removing bloat will not help as that only frees up system space which most apps won't use. If you mean actual memory rooting alone won't help and removing bloat won't help at all. These phones have very little memory and the only thing that will really help is a kit kat ROM as they have been optimized for phones with 512mb memory. Tweaks are mainly a placebo as @ArtfulDodger found out for us through extensive testing.
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I tried both of those links before I posted this. All download buttons on those pages led to spam ads. Seems every comment on those pages is how do I download - and then a mysterious thanks as if the answer was revealed and then deleted. At one point I got a link on that page to go to a page that said no file found - missing or deleted. Just tried again and found one download button that actually worked.
The system memory on my Exhibit 4G is just about full and there is 1.07 GB of system memory. The internal USB/SD memory is almost empty as is my external SD card. What I need to do is free up internal memory - and deleting apps that will not install to Internal USB/SD memory that I don't use has freed up a small amount of that system memory. But there are some apps that will not install to internal SD and insist on sitting in system memory. And then there are the screen after screen of apps that Samsung shoved on this phone that keep updating constantly and 80% of those apps I have never used. So researching this the recommendation always seems to be root and dump the bloatware - and have the ability to swap External SD for Internal SD. So I am looking to root. I have found Clockworkmod on some other site and just got the stock-rom.zip.
Thanks for responding - hopefully if I do this it I won't get notices to delete apps or the phone will cease this function and that function.
So after I root every app on the phone that I installed will still be there and the only difference is the phone will be rooted. Just asking because one video showed an empty phone other than stock apps after rooting.
Ok, then what you are more looking for may be swap sd since your on stock. It may be a hastle shifting things around. In the long run a lot of people chose to use this feature to have quite a few apps. I never personally used the feature as I never load many apps on my phone. So you would do the following.
1. Flash rootstock.zip
2. Flash cwm.zip
3. MAKE A BACKUP!!! (sorry but I need to stress this point as it will save you tons of headaches)
4. Install/flash swapsd you'll have to search for it as its buried in the thread
5. Shift non system apps/data to your memory card (new internal)
6. Enjoy
Hope the info helps.
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Dvarl said:
Ok, then what you are more looking for may be swap sd since your on stock. It may be a hastle shifting things around. In the long run a lot of people chose to use this feature to have quite a few apps. I never personally used the feature as I never load many apps on my phone. So you would do the following.
1. Flash rootstock.zip
2. Flash cwm.zip
3. MAKE A BACKUP!!! (sorry but I need to stress this point as it will save you tons of headaches)
4. Install/flash swapsd you'll have to search for it as its buried in the thread
5. Shift non system apps/data to your memory card (new internal)
6. Enjoy
Hope the info helps.
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how do i "flash root"? sorry im new =)
Instructions are in first post of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686384
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1776 said:
So after I root every app on the phone that I installed will still be there and the only difference is the phone will be rooted. Just asking because one video showed an empty phone other than stock apps after rooting.
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rooting alone will not touch any of your data. It just gives you full permissions to your phone.
however, I HIGHLY recommend you put a custom ROM on this phone. If you really want to get the most out of this phone, it is THE BEST way to go. I've owned this phone since it was first out and had so many problems with it on the stock ROM. I was seriously considering spending a lot of $$ on a new phone. Once I put a new ROM on it, its like a brand new phone. Everything is so much smoother. Just put your data on an SD card. If you sync your contacts with Google they will all sync back up to your phone. All your apps will be re-downloaded. Its a bit of a pain to set them all up again but soooo worth it.
After you make a backup, give it a shot. If you really don't like it then you could go back to the backup... but I doubt that would happen after you see just how well the phone runs.
kfs325 said:
rooting alone will not touch any of your data. It just gives you full permissions to your phone.
however, I HIGHLY recommend you put a custom ROM on this phone. If you really want to get the most out of this phone, it is THE BEST way to go. I've owned this phone since it was first out and had so many problems with it on the stock ROM. I was seriously considering spending a lot of $$ on a new phone. Once I put a new ROM on it, its like a brand new phone. Everything is so much smoother. Just put your data on an SD card. If you sync your contacts with Google they will all sync back up to your phone. All your apps will be re-downloaded. Its a bit of a pain to set them all up again but soooo worth it.
After you make a backup, give it a shot. If you really don't like it then you could go back to the backup... but I doubt that would happen after you see just how well the phone runs.
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What ROM did you end up using?
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What ROM did you end up using?
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The most stable one I used was this CM 10, Fairly good performace and was rock solid stable for me.
I am currently using slimkat 4.4 though. It does have some small hiccups but nothing that makes me want to go back to CM 10
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The most stable one I used was this CM 10, Fairly good performace and was rock solid stable for me.
I am currently using slimkat 4.4 though. It does have some small hiccups but nothing that makes me want to go back to CM 10
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Thanks for the info. I have used Peach Sunrise for sometime. It is very stable.
Towel root?
1776 said:
Most posts on this are two years old and links no longer work to files needed...
I have never rooted my SGH-T679 but now I keep getting notices that the phone memory is low. I would like to root without touching the rom on the phone so that I can finally dump the bloatware. I have read the XDA thread on rooting this phone and the links to root-stock.zip - 1.62 MB no longer work - come up file deleted or missing. Also second file required - ClockworkMod (? - not sure the name) also comes up as not found.
Yes, it is an old phone (actually only three years old) and I can't afford a another one right now. If I can still root this phone I can get more years out of it. And I like the Gingerbread rom it has.
Also - will the rooting process wipe out all currently downloaded and installed apps? I'd like to avoid that too if possible.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
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Have you ever heard of towelroot? there is a website called towelroot.com, and i am not sure whether it still works, but you should try anyway. You click the lambda and it will download an app. You then install it and click the make it rain button, and you should be root. After that, download Supersu, and root checker. You should then be able to clear bloatware with a root browser.
My Samsung Galaxy ACE S5830 needs the kiss of life, so as to return to the 21st century.
It has slow responses and quite often freezes and messes up with my nerves.
It currently runs on a 2.3.5 android version.
I want to root it, take a backup, increase ram by creating a partition in my new sd card and install a light custom rom (like MIUI). For this purpose, I just bought a very fast Kingston 32GB, class 10 U3, sd card with theoretical 90MBs read and 80MBs write speed. I think that will suffice.
I am a simple user and I need basic functions. My main issue is to get a faster response from the phone. I don’t play games and I am not a major fun of social media. I just want to want to use it mainly as a phone, for calls, messages, Viber, and some extra facilities like emailing, web browsing, watching some videos online (news and youtube), occasional photos, listen to music, and install a GPS program like Sygic.
I’ve already read a lot about the whole process, but as I’m doing it for the first time in my life I want to make sure that I got it right. And I have a few ambiguities.
Please advise or freely suggest if any better/easier method is available.
1. Rooting.
I decided to use Kingo Root. So, I need to download Kingo Root to my pc and connect the phone (having enabled USB debugging) and just press Root. Then check if rooting is successful with Root Checker. Then download and install SuperSU app. And I’m done.
Do I need to unlock my bootloader, too?
2. Backup.
a) Take an image of the existing ROM.
Download and install ROM Manager, flash ClockworkMod Recovery and update. Boot in to recovery by using ROM Manager or manually by pressing simultaneously UP+POWER+HOME buttons. Then go to Backup and Restore and take a backup image. Right?
b) Backup apps and messages.
I want to take just 2 backups here, my text messages and my Viber messages. Do I use Titanium or something else? My contacts are already synchronized with Google. If I use a MIUI stock rom do I need to take a backup of my contacts too?
3. Increase phone's RAM
I think now is the right time to increase the phone’s RAM. Do I need to partition it with CWM? Or I just use an app like Ram Expander? Do I do both? I mean firstly partition the sd to the desired size and then use Ram Expander? None of the above? What do you suggest? I have read some other possible solutions like using INT2EXT+ after partition. And when I download a new app how will the phone know where to store it, in phone’s RAM or in sd card?
The key factor is speed and efficiency.
I’ve also read that “Even though the Internal Storage would read 2GB (or whatever is your partition size), the apps would still use some amount of REAL INTERNAL Storage for data, hence you need at least 100MB REAL Internal Memory for every 500MB SD-EXT memory.” Is this true? And if so, since I believe the Galaxy ACE S5830 has about 150 MB RAM the most I can actually get is 750 MB RAM?
It is important to get as much RAM as possible because I’ve read that Sygic (the GPS Navigator app) needs to be installed in phone’s RAM to work properly and it is about 700MB.
4. Install Stock ROM
Finally, the time has come to install a new stock rom. I am thinking about MIUI 6. I like its interface and I’ve heard it is light and fast. Any better suggestions? Can I do it in my phone?
My problem here is this, is MIUI a fully functional stock rom, which means I just download it and flash it or is it a “port rom” which means I have to previously install some android 4.4.x base rom? I have read in some article that is needs a compatible android rom to lean on before installing. Is that so?
Here I am stuck, I can’t decide how to proceed and I need your help.
Sorry, if the post is too long.
Hi there, long time galaxy ace user and MIUI lover here.
1. For rooting my device, I just flashed a zip in recovery mode. Can't find the link to that thread.
2. Yes, backup is very important right after rooting, especially for beginners.
As for sms backup, I recommend using SMS backup and Restore, which can be downloaded from the market. I haven't used viber, so I don't know which app would be the best for backing it up, but you can try Titanium backup. For contacts, you can sync them as long as you flash a g-apps package and sign in with the same google account. To be sure, you can try exporting your contacts to your sd card and import it later on (.vcf)
3. I did not even increase my phone's ram via swap, Even with a tiny ram, Miui on top of Cm7 is pretty fast and can handle any basic task such as browsing, youtube videos, music, calling, camera, camcording and messaging with minimal stutters. (I don't play games btw)
4. If you are a simple phone user just like me, who only need some calls, sms and browsing functionality, the best bet would be to use MIUI builds based on gingerbread (CM7). I found that MIUIv4 builds (ICS and JB) are poorly optimized for our device. Also, there are currently no MIUI v5 or v6 builds for armv6 devices.
My personal recommendation is: MIUIXXX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908444 which comes with FireKernel OC.
I use Gabreek's Miui v5 theme, which you can find it on his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280553 In my opinion, his v5 theme is the best, because of LOTS of app icons and the overall feel.
Also, be sure to flash a g-apps package for gingerbread after flashing the rom.
MIUI v4 snapseries build is too unresponsive for me, and missing some features like screen off animation. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879323
MIUI v4 JB by msnnsm is also good, but consumes lots of ram http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054460.
TL;DR: flash an miui gb rom. It is the best in terms of stability and speed.
Thanks for your prompt answer and suggestions my friend. I will follow them all.
One question please, which is the most important query for me:
After I have made all the preparations (root and have taken a backup image with CWM, messages, etc.), what is the next step?
a) I need to install and flash the phone with a CM7 first and then install and flash MIUIXXX?
or
b) I just flash MIUIXXX straight away?
Also, I am not sure I understood correctly, Gabreek's Miui v5 (which is now updated to v6) is an alternative MIUI rom or a theme? Because I have downloaded it and it is a zip file not an .mtz file.
I am sorry if these sound like very noobish questions but I want to make sure that I understand what I am doing before I actually do it.
Thanks again for your help.
tommycr7 said:
Thanks for your prompt answer and suggestions my friend. I will follow them all.
One question please, which is the most important query for me:
After I have made all the preparations (root and have taken a backup image with CWM, messages, etc.), what is the next step?
a) I need to install and flash the phone with a CM7 first and then install and flash MIUIXXX?
or
b) I just flash MIUIXXX straight away?
Also, I am not sure I understood correctly, Gabreek's Miui v5 (which is now updated to v6) is an alternative MIUI rom or a theme? Because I have downloaded it and it is a zip file not an .mtz file.
I am sorry if these sound like very noobish questions but I want to make sure that I understand what I am doing before I actually do it.
Thanks again for your help.
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It's completely fine to flash miuiXXX right away (B)
gabreek's is another MIUI rom, but bluetooth is not working in his v6 build. The theme file (mtz) is somewhere in the bottom of the post, below some useful tips and just above the credits part of his post
Thanks again for your help.
I also thought the same, but I wanted to make sure.
I have already rooted my phone and I am in the process of taking various backups.
I will try the rom you have recommended and I will revert to report.
I think I owe you as much.
Btw do you know if Themer works in MIUI? It's quite an impressive app to have.
Cheers
as far as i know, themer does not work.
Also, MIUI comes with its own theme engine, and you can download online, which is very nice.
Remember that when Applying themes, do not include lockscreen (uncheck lockscreen) . Lockscreens from the Theme app are meant for HDPI device, and you won't be able to unlock your phone if you apply them. If you accidentally get stuck on the lockscreen, press volume up and back button at the same time. It will unlock your phone.
There are a handful of themes ported to MDPI which you can use over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428940
So far, so good, I have not experienced any major problems.
2 more things to ask if you dont mind.
a. Where do I get the gapps file to flash from? Is is a specific file for our rom (MIUIXXX) or any gapps file will do?
b. Can I add an extra language, in the android keyboard or do I have to use an app for this? Or even better in the system itself. I am from Greece and I would find it very convenient in some tasks of the phone. I mean since it is essentially a MIUI rom and MIUI has the greek language in its official roms, there must be a way that this can be done.
tommycr7 said:
My Samsung Galaxy ACE S5830 needs the kiss of life, so as to return to the 21st century.
It has slow responses and quite often freezes and messes up with my nerves.
It currently runs on a 2.3.5 android version.
I want to root it, take a backup, increase ram by creating a partition in my new sd card and install a light custom rom (like MIUI). For this purpose, I just bought a very fast Kingston 32GB, class 10 U3, sd card with theoretical 90MBs read and 80MBs write speed. I think that will suffice.
I am a simple user and I need basic functions. My main issue is to get a faster response from the phone. I don’t play games and I am not a major fun of social media. I just want to want to use it mainly as a phone, for calls, messages, Viber, and some extra facilities like emailing, web browsing, watching some videos online (news and youtube), occasional photos, listen to music, and install a GPS program like Sygic.
I’ve already read a lot about the whole process, but as I’m doing it for the first time in my life I want to make sure that I got it right. And I have a few ambiguities.
Please advise or freely suggest if any better/easier method is available.
1. Rooting.
I decided to use Kingo Root. So, I need to download Kingo Root to my pc and connect the phone (having enabled USB debugging) and just press Root. Then check if rooting is successful with Root Checker. Then download and install SuperSU app. And I’m done.
Do I need to unlock my bootloader, too?
2. Backup.
a) Take an image of the existing ROM.
Download and install ROM Manager, flash ClockworkMod Recovery and update. Boot in to recovery by using ROM Manager or manually by pressing simultaneously UP+POWER+HOME buttons. Then go to Backup and Restore and take a backup image. Right?
b) Backup apps and messages.
I want to take just 2 backups here, my text messages and my Viber messages. Do I use Titanium or something else? My contacts are already synchronized with Google. If I use a MIUI stock rom do I need to take a backup of my contacts too?
3. Increase phone's RAM
I think now is the right time to increase the phone’s RAM. Do I need to partition it with CWM? Or I just use an app like Ram Expander? Do I do both? I mean firstly partition the sd to the desired size and then use Ram Expander? None of the above? What do you suggest? I have read some other possible solutions like using INT2EXT+ after partition. And when I download a new app how will the phone know where to store it, in phone’s RAM or in sd card?
The key factor is speed and efficiency.
I’ve also read that “Even though the Internal Storage would read 2GB (or whatever is your partition size), the apps would still use some amount of REAL INTERNAL Storage for data, hence you need at least 100MB REAL Internal Memory for every 500MB SD-EXT memory.” Is this true? And if so, since I believe the Galaxy ACE S5830 has about 150 MB RAM the most I can actually get is 750 MB RAM?
It is important to get as much RAM as possible because I’ve read that Sygic (the GPS Navigator app) needs to be installed in phone’s RAM to work properly and it is about 700MB.
4. Install Stock ROM
Finally, the time has come to install a new stock rom. I am thinking about MIUI 6. I like its interface and I’ve heard it is light and fast. Any better suggestions? Can I do it in my phone?
My problem here is this, is MIUI a fully functional stock rom, which means I just download it and flash it or is it a “port rom” which means I have to previously install some android 4.4.x base rom? I have read in some article that is needs a compatible android rom to lean on before installing. Is that so?
Here I am stuck, I can’t decide how to proceed and I need your help.
Sorry, if the post is too long.
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Hi There,
To Root Your Device See The XDA's post.
Take The Backup of Current Rom Using CWM recovery or ROM Manager would do this too.
Then inorder to Increase Memory On Your Device By Partitining the SD Card.
Check My Guide over it in Galaxy Ace Development Section or General Android Dev Section.
If Helped Click Thanks
Hi,
1.
Try always to have on your sdcard a backup or a ROM that works ok.
Probe this a few times to be sure you can return anytime to the previous step.
2.
Take a notepad and make a change log with steps you made, so you can return to the previous step if something is not working ok.
3.
Try first to understand what you want to do, to be sure that you will not commit an error.
Try to learn from the mistakes of others.
It will be much easier for you.
I have just acquired a Samsung Galaxy A40 phone. In my opinion, it has one of the best size/price/performance ratios on the market, reason why I bough it.
However, one very sad point about it is that there is still no LineageOS or any other custom ROMs to this phone, forcing myself to stick to the Samsung ultra-bloated distribution.
Having to accept this fact, my first action was to clean the phone the best I could, by removing any unnecessary crap from Sansumg and others from Google, Linkedin, Facebook and anything not strictly necessary. I based my list on some available (find ref on the script), but I also added some other useful commands.
Let me know if this works out for you, and if you have any point to add to the list. Find it attached on the Gist below:
https://gist.github.com/joaofl/7671e7e96a760e9b368992d6694a33d9
Before running it, I recommend reading the comments on the scrip, so that you dont end up without keyboard for example.
Hope it suites you!
By the way, do you have any information on when or if there is anybody working on a custom ROM (Lineage preferably) for this device?
EDIT:
There is no need to be root!
Disabling Galaxy A40 bloatware
joaofl said:
...clean the phone the best I could, by removing any unnecessary crap from Sansumg and others...
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Instead of removing system apps you can simply disable them which is easily reversible.
If the Disable button is grayed-out in the Settings > App > app's info see this XDA article: How to disable any pre-installed system app bloatware on Android without root using adb
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joaofl said:
I have just acquired a Samsung Galaxy A40 phone. In my opinion, it has one of the best size/price/performance ratios on the market, reason why I bough it.
However, one very sad point about it is that there is still no LineageOS or any other custom ROMs to this phone, forcing myself to stick to the Samsung ultra-bloated distribution.
Having to accept this fact, my first action was to clean the phone the best I could, by removing any unnecessary crap from Sansumg and others from Google, Linkedin, Facebook and anything not strictly necessary. I based my list on some available (find ref on the script), but I also added some other useful commands.
Let me know if this works out for you, and if you have any point to add to the list. Find it attached on the Gist below:
https://gist.github.com/joaofl/7671e7e96a760e9b368992d6694a33d9
Before running it, I recommend reading the comments on the scrip, so that you dont end up without keyboard for example.
Hope it suites you!
By the way, do you have any information on when or if there is anybody working on a custom ROM (Lineage preferably) for this device?
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I need root permissions to do this
But will this run without rooting the phone?
EDIT: It works!
Beautiful.
I'm new with Galaxy A40, i'm really not a fan of Samsung but it was great to have the idea of making a phone lower than 15cm that is my need for lot of reasons.
I was just preparing to remove some system apps like bixby and samsung launcher, than i found out this script but... may you please give a description of most incomprehensible apps in the list?
Instructions
A big thanks to joaofl for getting this list together for us!!!
Here's some info that might help others...
- This article has info (it's further down in the page) on how to use the script (you copy and paste it into Windows command promt/cmd as admin and after installing ADB... link in the article below).
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/03/25/samsung-galaxy-s10-remove-bundled-bloatwares-without-root/
- There's a typo in the script... Lines 84 onwards on the code has a typo where it says 'pm' rather than 'adb'. Changing that before you paste it into cmd fixes it.
Charlie Cooper said:
A big thanks to joaofl for getting this list together for us!!!
Here's some info that might help others...
- This article has info (it's further down in the page) on how to use the script (you copy and paste it into Windows command promt/cmd as admin and after installing ADB... link in the article below).
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/03/25/samsung-galaxy-s10-remove-bundled-bloatwares-without-root/
- There's a typo in the script... Lines 84 onwards on the code has a typo where it says 'pm' rather than 'adb'. Changing that before you paste it into cmd fixes it.
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Indeed, there were some errors there. I updated the script now, and it should work better now.
and NO, you dont need to be root to run it.
I prefer to remove stuff instead of disabling it, as it free up some space. Worst case, you need to restore the phone.
Yesterday I disabled a lot of unnecessary apps on my Galaxy A40. At a certain point the device was locked an a message said something about "not authorised removal of billing/paying apps". I had to do a hard recovery because I could not enable any of the apps. In fact I could do nothing with the phone
I mention this because on all the lists I found on the internet the billing/paying apps are listed as bloatware/unnecessary which was not true in my case. My A40 is customised by hutchison (drei) maybe this has something to do with it.
edit: the package name which is locking the phone is
com.samsung.android.kgclient
HTH and have a nice day!
Does anyone know if a factory reset from Settings will restore all the apps removed via this process?
EDIT: It does.
Can you say which apps cannot be removed OR disabled?
Weasler said:
Can you say which apps cannot be removed OR disabled?
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Do not remove Samsung Payment Services (using root), if you do you will get a locked/unusable device, it will show 'Device locked because Payment services was uninstalled without authorization' and reflash will be needed.
Tony il Capo said:
Do not remove Samsung Payment Services (using root), if you do you will get a locked/unusable device, it will show 'Device locked because Payment services was uninstalled without authorization' and reflash will be needed.
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Thanks, I'll just stick to disabling apps until I get to know this phone a bit better! The battery monitor doesn't say I have anything chewing up CPU and I'm only losing a few % overnight on idle (even with LED notification fix) so I must have optimized a good bit already.
hello,
good idea !!
i have done the same with luckypatcher (need root)
i forgot this way.... easy with adb
thank you.
Hi, just uninstalled apps using ADB and the script from Page 1. All is fine, even though I forgot to install G-board beforehands, I just sent it from laptop to install on A 40 afterwards.
Amazing job. phone feels lighter and smooth now.
Thank you !!! @joaofl @curiousrom and @costa11
I want remove all samsung on my new galaxy A40, but:
I need to be root.???
I can backup first my original firmware??? And then if there are problems restore this backup??
I need simple use to consume los battery.
Thanks
ruloes said:
I want remove all samsung on my new galaxy A40, but:
I need to be root.???
I can backup first my original firmware??? And then if there are problems restore this backup??
I need simple use to consume los battery.
Thanks
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Adb doesn't need to be Rooted to be used
Just activate USB debugging(see tutorial about développer mode), and use cmd from your PC (and have adb.exe in a directory for sure)
Pay attention that the phone will Ask you to confirm the authentication as soon as you set "adb start-server"
For the backup, you have already asked it in another thread in which i answered you.
Envoyé de mon SM-A405FN en utilisant Tapatalk
I don’t understand the backup thread, where?
I did it with adb but now.... what else
ruloes said:
I don’t understand the backup thread, where?
I did it with adb but now.... what else
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I just recover all my files from another Samsung Galaxy to new A40 with own Samsung account backup . There is also Google backup but it is not complete . Samsung backup satisfied me a lot . Just register , sign in Samsung account and from phone settings click on backup .
No need root , of course .
Regarding removing bloatware there are plenty of tutorials on this subject . Just look for it . It's all about adb shell cmd and activate debugging mode from phone . You need also an apk inspector from Google Play to know for sure name of apk you want to uninstall . Don't touch system apks , lists with bloatwares can be uninstalled you can find here on xda (galaxy phones) .
Personally I remarked besides their importance , apks like Calendar and Google Search eat a lot battery . I don't need these apks so I got rid of those and another and I can say battery was semnifically improved . I use also dark mode (from usb debugging) , native digital wellbeing for nights and all-in-one tools apk for some special android characteristics like boost , boot , clean etc
It's important to mention all apks uninstalled still remained in android backup image so they can be restored from phone factory reset .
Succes !
I clean my A40 from the bloatware with the script and I lost the recents app screen of One UI.
Now my recent list is the stock of Android 9. Moreover I totally lost the recents screen when navbar is in gesture mode.
Someone can help me to understand which apk are related with my issue?
Script:
https://gist.github.com/joaofl/7671...33d9#file-clean-samsung-galaxy-a40-bloatwares
Thank you for the efforts. I am a new buyer of A40 and I hope the community grow up!
mrmysterious said:
I clean my A40 from the bloatware with the script and I lost the recents app screen of One UI.
Now my recent list is the stock of Android 9. Moreover I totally lost the recents screen when navbar is in gesture mode.
Someone can help me to understand which apk are related with my issue?
Script:
https://gist.github.com/joaofl/7671...33d9#file-clean-samsung-galaxy-a40-bloatwares
Thank you for the efforts. I am a new buyer of A40 and I hope the community grow up!
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I suggest factory reset then remove again certain bloatware . Don't touch system apks . Also try to backup your system to Samsung Cloud .