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XDA 2 Car Kit

Morning XDA world,
just thought I would report on the official XDA2 car kit sold by Tmobile in Germany.
Picked it up last week for 175 Euro's while I was over there.
Fitted it this weekend and it fantastic. As well as the usual connection of power/aerial/microphone, there is also two speaker outputs that can drive external units. A typical carphone speaker came with it so I have connected that and an exisitng one I had in the car.
I can now get my MP3 and TomTom voice commands in Stereo. The mini amp that is in the car kit is only about 12w but I have had to turn the volume down to 25% on the XDA otherwise it is too loud for normal driving. There is also a mute connection for the radio if it is required.
One question I do have, does any one know what would happen if I connect the speaker outputs directly to the speaker outputs of the car radio. Would I need a diode to prevent the signal from both units damaging the other, or is there another way. I dont want to use an FM unit or mix it in with the CD multi input connection.
thanks in advance.

i ordered mine a few days ago, i hope i have it today for 176 euro
and 6 euro shipping..
here are fotos of the original carkit
http://www.pbase.com/paiko/ppc3
(not mine)
thanks to paiko

Thanks for the pics, I'm looking for a XDA2 car mount and I have to say that this one is the best i've seen so far
SD card slot is blok? have you found that unpractical or you don't change SD cards to often?

anyone know where to source one of these (I am in the UK) ?

you can order it in germany for 176 euro
www.passiontec.de

Hi
Looks very simular to the one that O2 are going to sell in the Q2 04
http://www.xda-2.co.uk/accessories/peripherals.html
I have just ordered this one to use with my soon to arrive TomTom 3, its got extra wire that are not need with blue tooth but would pesume that it does not mater
http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx
steve

Looking for a Car Kit with a Cradle for the Siemens SX56.
I have seen most of the posts for the car kits and they look awesome. They blow away anything else I have found on the net or on EBAY by any means. Now my question is where can I get this same type of car kit for my Siemens SX56 in the USA, ideally Illinois. It seems that everyone that has an awesome car kit is in another country. Any help is appreciated.
Ideally the car kit would have a drop in fitting for the PDA. It should allow a clean fitted installation, which wouldn’t show any wiring and also allow me to integrate my PDA through my car speakers. It should have an external microphone that I can add in a clean fashion so I can use it to make calls and received them. Ideally the same kit like the car kits for standard cell phones only for a Siemens SX56 PDA.
You help is greatly appreciated!

akira said:
you can order it in germany for 176 euro
www.passiontec.de
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Sorry I cannot read German and I couldn't find it. Do you have a direct link to the actual page for the unit?
Ed

This looks really interesting, but I'm afraid my German is not too good. I guess that those of you who've bought one of these can understand the language better than me - so could someone please explain the difference between these:
Car BasicSet für MDA II [€170]
CarKit II [€200] (this appears to be the one in the photos above)
Navigate StarterSet für MDA II [€170]
NaviGate Car Kit Pro MDA II [€250]
I guess that the NaviGate kits include T-Mobile's (proprietary?) navigation solution, but it is interesting that the CarKit II also appears to include a connection for NaviGate. I presume, therefore, that all of the above kits present some sort of interface that any GPS receiver could connect to - but it would be greatly appreciated if someone could confirm what the interface is (RS232, PS/2, etc.)? I suppose detailed photos or installation guides would be helpful here.
Basically, I would like a cradle for my XDA2 that:
- outputs all audio through the car's speakers, muting the radio;
- provides for an external antenna; and
- connects to a (wired) GPS receiver suitable for use with TomTom3.
Maybe I'm too demanding! Is this asking for the world on a plate? I would've thought it was a fairly standard set of requirements... :?

Okay, so maybe I'm not being so demanding after all... according to http://www.my-xda.com/carkit.html :
"the Xda II carkit supports direct connection of a GPS unit - such as that provide [sic] by TomTom Navigator" (as far as I can tell, this implies that there is an RJ45 connector carrying both data and power; for the real techies, does anyone know whether the power is at 5V or 12V?)
I imagine that the kit they're referring to is identical to the T-Mobile CarKit II, which seems to be what you guys bought from Germany - in which case, is there really a spare RJ45 socket lying around for a GPS receiver? I can't get anyone at O2 to understand what I'm talking about (they don't even seem to be aware that such a car kit exists).
Exciting stuff. :?

But as far as the O2 link you provided goes it still only has an XDA kit for sale not yet an XDA II kit correct?
Ed

ednap said:
But as far as the O2 link you provided goes it still only has an XDA kit for sale not yet an XDA II kit correct?
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Well, the third paragraph says: "These carkit's are especially designed to fit Xda and Xda II respectively", which implies a separate kit is available for the XDA II - but there's no product code, price, or any mention of it in the O2 Shop.

nickety said:
a separate kit is available for the XDA II - but there's no product code, price, or any mention of it in the O2 Shop.
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I've just spoken to O2 - they're expecting it to be available from about 2-3 weeks' time, and it will be priced at £189. I've just pre-ordered one over the telephone (0800 389 4516).

Expansys like Carkit
Hi all,
just to tell you all it will be available at the end of May (I hope) here in Portugal a complete Carkit for the XDA2 (Carkit Pro) just like the one at expansys.com for around 155€ directly from the national distributor.
I'll tell you more as soon as i get more info on this.

Expensive from O2
I just spoke to the people in the two O2 shops in nottingham and both of them told me that the XDA II Car kit is available, but they have to order it in. They said the cost is £150 plus £99 fitting charge, and they'll only let you have one if they can fit it. Has anyone else found this or is it just O2 Nottingham being greedy?

The O2 accessories phone line told me that the kit required fitting, but that I'd have to arrange that myself.

Oh
OK. Seems like O2. hey're a bit poo for information here in Notts.
Has anyone, looked into making a cable to connect the XDA/XDA II to a car stereo? I've not got a stereo at the moment to test with but I assume that they have a standard layout of pins on the ack or something for phone inputs?
Anyone who knows a fair bit about car stereos and fitting phones to them can you leave me some extra info?
Also, with regards to the XDA I and II, do they have any reason why the same cable wouldn't want to be used for the two different phones? I've got a I and am thinking of getting a II but don't want to faff about with a cable for one and then find it's useless when I upgrade.
Will

That's the way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4348&highlight=connectors
Bit of searching and I found this. Any extra info still welcome.

Hello again all,
Pegasus said:
One question I do have, does any one know what would happen if I connect the speaker outputs directly to the speaker outputs of the car radio. Would I need a diode to prevent the signal from both units damaging the other, or is there another way. I dont want to use an FM unit or mix it in with the CD multi input connection.
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I am by no means an audio expert, but have had a little Google around since this is exactly what I would like to do myself.
I found a reply to someone else's similar question about connecting two different audio sources/amps in their bedroom to the same speakers. It seems that it's not a good idea.
I then found an automatic selector switch which runs on 12VDC. I think that you can connect your radio speaker outputs to the "AMP A" input and the Xda II carkit to "AMP B", thereby giving priority to the Xda II whenever it's trying to do something. Chop the mains plug off and you should be able to hook it up to the car's switched/accessory power supply.
I hope that helps.
Whilst I'm posting in this thread (again :wink, can someone please confirm what this carkit provides for connecting to GPS receivers? This photo that akira posted is very helpful, but it doesn't show clearly enough what type of connector #13 is... hopefully it's an RJ11 that will directly work with the TomTom wired receiver - can anyone confirm? If not, is there any chance of an exact description, or close-up photo with pinouts (perhaps this is in the accompanying documentation)?
Thanks!

The connection on the Car kit Akira mentioned is RJ11 for the GPS reciever. Unfortunately my GPS reciever is PS2.
I looking for an cable adapter from PS2 to RJ11. Any one can help?

The way to mount your Ameo in the car ?

hi,
been looking for some mounts to have it in my car as a sat nav but cannot find much. the only thing so far is http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=146553
have u ppl found sth else ??
cheers
links please

Hi,
I mailed Brodit last week about the availability of a Brodit Car Holder for the Ameo/Dopod U1000/ HTC Athena. BUd didn't get an answer yet. Keep you posted.

dpbakker said:
I mailed Brodit last week about the availability of a Brodit Car Holder for the Ameo/Dopod U1000/ HTC Athena. BUd didn't get an answer yet. Keep you posted.
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That'd be interesting - I used a Brodit car holder for my Universal (XDA Exec) and it was great.
The bit that fixes to the car comes separately from the bit that holds your PDA, so I'd even be able to reuse some of it.

HI Guys
Sorry for the Noob question but does anyone know if that Exapnsys holder will also fit the Advantage. I notice that they have these in stock but the specific advantage one is on Pre order.
I will be replacing my Hw6915 with the advantage and need a car holder as I am an heavy user of GPS.
Thanks for your advice
Ray G

Whoops ignore that last post, The advantage one is now in Stock at Expansys!!!
RG

http://www.expansys.com.hk/p.aspx?i=146553
you can find it here

I wish their was one that had power like the Brodit mount

I'm upgrading from mda pro to the ameo next week. I've been looking for car mounts too and I just came across this one on ebay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/T-Mobile-Ameo...ryZ75447QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem. There doesn't seem to be much available yet.

a2b said:
I'm upgrading from mda pro to the ameo next week. I've been looking for car mounts too and I just came across this one on ebay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/T-Mobile-Ameo...ryZ75447QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem. There doesn't seem to be much available yet.
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i will be receiving test sample of car mount from HTC this month

wu5262 said:
i will be receiving test sample of car mount from HTC this month
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And once you have tested it for me you can just send it my way

jasonmoe said:
And once you have tested it for me you can just send it my way
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sorry i can't do that but i can place the order on them for you if you want.
p.s. i don't know the price yet, also i don't know exactly want is include in the box, so once i have test it, i will let you guys know.

Just been on a business trip, about 350 miles each way.
My Ameo holder cost £3.99 and worked fantastically.
I used a JML "Grab Mat".
http://www.jmldirect.com/product.php?cid=4&pid=219&dc_id=grab%20mat|774098824&gclid=CLrIxPjv0IsCFQ3mlAodh2iwCg

Slave1 said:
Just been on a business trip, about 350 miles each way.
My Ameo holder cost £3.99 and worked fantastically.
I used a JML "Grab Mat".
http://www.jmldirect.com/product.php?cid=4&pid=219&dc_id=grab%20mat|774098824&gclid=CLrIxPjv0IsCFQ3mlAodh2iwCg
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I can echo that! Well worth it for the price...

the grab mat
can anyone buy it for me and i will send you the money
beacuse the do not send items international
and i live in israel
http://www.jmldirect.com/product.php?cid=4&pid=219
Thank You

JML Grabmat as mount for Ameo
I can also confirm it works fantastically, both with the Ameo in or out of the leather case.
It is also much more secure than a friction mount I paid £50 for for a Garmin GPS.
£4 for an effective mount: bargain!
Thanks

Brodit Mount
I am looking to get an Ameo but want the Brodit system for my car. I asked Brodit when they would release one and the answer was:
Hi!
It’s under construction ready in a couple of weeks.
Best Regards
Marie
-Brodit AB-

apd said:
I am looking to get an Ameo but want the Brodit system for my car. I asked Brodit when they would release one and the answer was:
Hi!
It’s under construction ready in a couple of weeks.
Best Regards
Marie
-Brodit AB-
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Get a Grab Mat, if you don't like it you've lost £4 if you do you've saved £££s. Plus less chance of some Chav breaking into your car coz they think you've got a sat nav.
I got mine from Boots.

Slave1 said:
Get a Grab Mat, if you don't like it you've lost £4 if you do you've saved £££s. Plus less chance of some Chav breaking into your car coz they think you've got a sat nav.
I got mine from Boots.
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Several reasons for the Brodit:
I use satnav - and the brodit is perfect for holding my unit (an XDA Exec at the mo) in position
I already have most of the Brodit system - just need a new front. Also, it holds the power lead in place.
Cheers for the idea, though!

apd said:
I am looking to get an Ameo but want the Brodit system for my car. I asked Brodit when they would release one and the answer was:
Hi!
It’s under construction ready in a couple of weeks.
Best Regards
Marie
-Brodit AB-
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Please let us know. I'm interested in one myself. I've tried the mat thing in the past but since I drive fast and make sharp turns, my device seems to roll off, not slide off. LOL

I saw someone suggest that you could use the magnetic lock of the Athena to hold it in place on a dashboard. Didn't anyone use that yet? Or will it not be strong enough?

Where can i get the cables from?

Hi i'm currently looking online where to by the two (i think) GPS and WIFI clip on cables, dont know what their called?
would love to see hem on ebay but i cannot find them
anybody help? where can i buy them or what they are called?
thanks in advance.
FYI: the two small cables inside the diamond wich clip onto the PCB's, not external cables.
EDIT: am i on the right track as this connector seems the same? is the connectors calles "U.FL Mini" connector? would this connector be correct and fit?
thanks

Does nobody know then? lol... i'm at my wits end trying to find these cables never thought it would be this hard, they both snapped on me and now i dont have good GPS/WIFI reception. please help somebody...

bump, sorry... does anone have any to sell me then, why is it hard to find these, not even ebay has them google results in 0, really bugging me now, what other phones has these? somebody must know something... xda dev is the source of this stuff man, i even went as far as ringing HTC bu they cant tell me where to find them or what they are called, i apparently need to send it in, pfft for the cost of what lol.

GPS Car Holder for i8000??

can u guys suggest me good car holder for my i8000?? i prefer vent holder if any...
thanks

You have many choices on http://www.dealextreme.com

Hey there...
Mine was delivered with an car-holder (original!)... It's T-Mobile Germany...
Fits perfect!
Greetings,
Alex

Why???
Can anybody tell me why Samsung makes phones with USB plug on the top of the devices? In my opinion it is reason why the car holder does not exist and many people do not by this phone... me too. Samsung have to learn from "Garmin Asus Nüvifone M10". Add an original car holder is the best way to make the phone more attractive for an customers. And to make original docking station it is better too. Am I right?
( sorry for my English )

Newbie

I am just retired I am aiming to get to know my Xtrons PQ90MTVL a lot better.

Hi everyone, I've got an issue with my Xtrons PQ90MTVL. I use my Samsung S20 as a hot spot for the Xtrons. I find that every three days or so I have to do a reset via the pin hole on the front of the unit to re-enable wireless on the unit. The Wi-Fi is the only thing that goes on the unit, Bluetooth works fine, when I got in touch with Xtrons they said it was a common fault and would cost me £40.00 to have it repaired. Does anyone know if it is possible to fit a wireless USB dongle to provide the unit with a alterative way of connecting to the hot spot on my phone as they are quite cheap, and would save me a lot of money?

Treaddie said:
I am just retired I am aiming to get to know my Xtrons PQ90MTVL a lot better.
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