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Hello,
I'm quite new to android and after reading around the forums for the captivate, I was wondering exactly which is better, SRE or the Unleash the Beast?
I come from HTC Fuze and I am really excited about the Captivate I just got. And like most new owners, I'm concerned about what exactly I am doing with phone. Please help me.
SRE all the way
SRE provides way more options. Sideloading enabled by default, overclocking, disabled GPS logging, mobile access point, usb tethering... definitely the way to go until BuglessPete ever comes back (if he does)
I've been reading up on the SRE thread and it seems I have to do a nandroid backup and titanium backup but doesn't those 2 require the phone to be rooted?
What exactly is sideloading? I've been trying to figure it out but all people said that it let non-market apps to be installed to the phone but how would I install the unit?
I like SRE.
Sideloading is exactly what you said it is. Instead of installing via the Market, you just transfer a .apk file to your phone, open it with a file manager and it will install.
Seems like the SRE is the popular choice to go, but do I have to do those backups like the nandroid and titamium back up before I do SRE even though I need to root?
agegsg said:
Seems like the SRE is the popular choice to go, but do I have to do those backups like the nandroid and titamium back up before I do SRE even though I need to root?
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It will root for you no worries.
I've used both and I prefer SRE, I ran UTB for a month and after all the bugs were out of SRE I flashed it and it is awsome. Then get Ryna's one click lag fix in the Market and install it, you'll get rid of the lag and it posts quad scores over 2400, stock is between 800-900.
You won't be able to use Nandroid or Titanium without Root.
glio1337 said:
I like SRE.
Sideloading is exactly what you said it is. Instead of installing via the Market, you just transfer a .apk file to your phone, open it with a file manager and it will install.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine
This is the best choice for sideloading apps. Very simple to use and it does the work for you. No need for an ADB shell or any of that, easier on noobs like me.
First off, Thank you guys for your post. I decided as suggest to do the SRE. Am I suppose to notice any difference when I finish up the SRE?
Also, any recommendation of apps I should get now that my phone has freedom?
change form UTB to SRE
I just received my Samsung Captivate and used UTB first, but am thinking I may want to try SRE, do I need to do anything before I run SRE, and can I just do this over UTB. I have not flashed any roms or anything like that. Thanks for your assistance.
skipper86 said:
I just received my Samsung Captivate and used UTB first, but am thinking I may want to try SRE, do I need to do anything before I run SRE, and can I just do this over UTB. I have not flashed any roms or anything like that. Thanks for your assistance.
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you really should read through as many (all) the pages of SRE as you can, but since I've been keeping up with it I'll help you out. According to DesignGears and several others, if you're running UTB you can just flash over it and it won't matter.
just put update.zip on your SD card, boot into recovery, reinstall packages
skipper86 said:
I just received my Samsung Captivate and used UTB first, but am thinking I may want to try SRE, do I need to do anything before I run SRE, and can I just do this over UTB. I have not flashed any roms or anything like that. Thanks for your assistance.
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I would do all of your backups and then flash back to the stock ROM and apply SRE.
If I recall correctly, you are recommended to flash to stock, but I read in their forums you can just do it over the UTB. Here is a link to their thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751934
SRE all the way! I'm about to do mine!
agegsg said:
If I recall correctly, you are recommended to flash to stock, but I read in their forums you can just do it over the UTB. Here is a link to their thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751934
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I flashed SRE over UTB and had no problems whatso ever..enjoy SRE its awesome being overclocked and stable @ 1.2GHz!
i flashed to SRE last night, coming from JM5 i9000 rom, this thing is smokin now.
I'm about to stay reading up on SRE, but can anyone tell me if this will affect any ota updates, I'm on jh3 now with UTB and that's about it. Also am I going to have to re-load anything after I flash this over Utb?
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I was forced into flashing to stock when I did something--still not sure what--to get a blank screen after boot, so I decided, what the hey, instead of just rooting, go with SuperRooter (which I assume is being called SRE now) and get lots of goodies with it. I'm a true believer, what with a truly open market, no more bloatware, ext4 file system, etc.
I didn't do Nandroid or Titanium Backup...didn't know how at the time. But since I had been using AppBrain, reinstalling all my apps took longer than it would have using Titanium and I lost my app settings, but it wasn't anything to cry about. So if you're not using Titanium yet then I'd recommend you go to AppBrain, sign up, download the app, and run it before going this route.
It worked just fine for me. If there's a problem, just get Odin and a ROM to reflash the phone (instructions are available all over the place on how to do this, particularly at the top of this very forum). It seems to take a lot to brick your phone, so don't be scared to jump in. Learning new stuff is fun! Just keep a cool head if you blow it...you can most likely fix it in pretty short order.
Hello there must i uninstall the oneclick lagfix before i do the official 2.2 update?
Or can i update with it installed?
And can it be done without kies because i cant get that to work.
Best regards
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I would like to know this too - before the official is out, so I can get it when it's hot.
Also: is unrooting necessary before updating? I really like the added functionality from my rooted device, can I keep that?
I'm also interested in a definitive answer to this.
Also on a somewhat related note, will a batch titanium backup be enough to restore my apps, settings, etc. to pretty much exactly how they were before updating?
Darkimmortal said:
I'm also interested in a definitive answer to this.
Also on a somewhat related note, will a batch titanium backup be enough to restore my apps, settings, etc. to pretty much exactly how they were before updating?
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Well... isn't the firmware the only thing that changes?
Or will all the apps be deleted? (If not, why do you care about backups?)
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Well... isn't the firmware the only thing that changes?
Or will all the apps be deleted? (If not, why do you care about backups?)
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Fairly certain that Kies updates wipe everything on the phone - equivalent to a factory reset.
May be wrong however
It seems you are right - damn.
"Another thing should be noticed is you must back up all important data before updating your phone, or you will lose all data."
all-samsungphones.com/lastest-official-firmware-update-for-samsung-galaxy-s-i9000
So... what to backup. All apps... will SMS messages be lost too? How about GPS settings, or stuff thats stored on the internal SD card?
Titanium Backup is godsent for factory resets. Yes it restores everything but Its advisiable to just restore the apps you installed and not the system settings.
Screwed up a few of my factory resets.
As for contacts, back them up on Google and for SMS you can use SMS Backup+ (note the +) which can backup your sms on gmail automatically and restore them! its so awesome
and no it wont touch your internal sd. Titanium backup files are stored there though
Thanks for the reply... however, SMSBackup+ doesn't work for me (keeps crashing), first app to do that to me, EVER.
Anyway, could anyone tell us about the root and lag fix needing to be removed or not?
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Thanks for the reply... however, SMSBackup+ doesn't work for me (keeps crashing), first app to do that to me, EVER.
Anyway, could anyone tell us about the root and lag fix needing to be removed or not?
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it shouldnt be necessary but its advisable to remove OCLF,
for voodoo, its a must.
Its sad that SMSbackup doesnt work on you, there's alternatives out there but i prefer SMSbackup+ since it uses your gmail account which means its on the cloud
im not sure of the other alternatives but I certainly saw a few that saved to your SD card and can restore from there, im not sure how well they work though
Well, in that case, I'll leave it be for now (lagfix and root) seeing as Voodoo isn't yet released for Froyo:
"What about Froyo?
Current Froyo builds are leaked development firmwares, not meant to be released.
Of course Froyo is the future for Galaxy S and as soon as Samsung will release a stable firmware and the corresponding sources, Voodoo improvements will be ported to it."
Once that happens; bye bye OCLF.
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so we can update to 2.2 with the lagfix installed?
Yes I want o know this as well, I have OCLF 2.2+ do I need to UNROOT my sgs AND "undo OCLF" AND "remove ext2 tools" ? All of them or just one ?
Can someone please answer this
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Yes I want o know this as well, I have OCLF 2.2+ do I need to UNROOT my sgs AND "undo OCLF" AND "remove ext2 tools" ? All of them or just one ?
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yes please answer us
YES, UNINSTALL ONLY THE LAGFIX (means restore EXT2 and uninstall the lagfix!)
NO NEEDS TO UNROOT! since the new kernel will be overwrite and you will have anyway an unrooted kernel again!
DONT FORGET TO WIPE ALL and hard reset...is the best safe way to a successfull flash! make a backup maybe titanium backup ... is a good way for the appz and dont forget to backup your contacts
then u can restore all!
I never had problems doing it in this way!
I went to the voodoo irc channel and the people said it was unnecessary to uninstall the voodoo lagfix before the firmware update. What IS NECESSARY is that you 'DISABLE LAGFIX' before doing the update.
lagfix
But i have the one click lagfix installed
Hi
Galaxy S, Froyo, Voodoo kernel:
I'm thinking about disabling Voodoo to try OCLF and see if it is faster. Therefor I wonder a few things.
Does OCLF work with the Voodoo kernel installed?
I understand I just create the file/folder voodoo/disable_lagfix to disable the Voodoo lagfix, but how do I get it back if I don't like the OCLF? Just remove the file/folder and reboot, or is it more complicated then that?
And lastly: Any thoughts on which is better? OCLF or Voodoo? My Galaxy S isn't superfast with the Voodoo, thats for sure.
Thanks
Decided to try.
Downloaded the remove voodoo-app, and disabled it with success. Back to RFS.
But when I try to install OCLF I get the message: "You already appear to have another lag fix installed! (/system/bin/playlogos1 les than 5KB)"
I therefor tried the "Restore boot animation"-function, and it says success. But still I get the same message when trying to install OCLF.
Help!
Can't someone please help me!
Just put voodoo back on in my opinion.
But if you MUST try it you might have to put a stock kernel on. Isn't there some oclf option that refers to that playlogos file or whatever it is?
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I was trying to disable Voodoo to try OCLF(not happy with speed with Voodoo)
So I downloaded the remove voodoo-app, and disabled it with success. Back to RFS. I'm using Froyo JPA Samsung official.
But when I try to install OCLF I get the message: "You already appear to have another lag fix installed! (/system/bin/playlogos1 les than 5KB)"
I therefor tried the "Restore boot animation"-function, and it says success. But still I get the same message when trying to install OCLF.
I have also tried to manually delete the playlogos1-file, but it seems to be coming back immediately.
Help!
Another case of not reading BEFORE applying stuff to the phone?
Usually to disable Voodoo you create a folder named "disable_lagfix" in your voodoo folder.
Then reboot to get back to RFS.
Talk about not reading??
I have already disabled Voodoo.... The problem is installing OCLF again..
Obviously something is still recognizing it as ENABLED.
That would have been worth a try.
Otherwise do a full reflash.
Mate, if you read the remove voodoo thread, it isn't the most stable app..... i'd contact that threads originator for advice.
Fwiw, I've used them both, now using voodoo with darkys 4.1 rom.
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The only way to truly get rid of Voodoo is to reflash to a stock Rom. Even with it disabled it may have some effect on your phone and it definitely doesn't play well with OCLF. I would suggest flashing using Odin and then reinstalling OCLF---that's what I did.
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I installed OCLF on my phone (Froyo JPO) and tried to remove it in order to upgrade to 2.2, I think it didnt remove the lagfix right though, as the option to apply the lag fix, and the one to remove the lag fix is no longer available. (I cant remember if it specifically said it failed or not.)
I saw somewhere on this site that you first have to install some other rom, or to just select something else in ODIN if updating with lag fix still enabled. Also, should I uninstall all apps with root access before unrooting? And can I backup apps with titanium backup in order to restore it if I have to completely wipe my phone?
use quadrant to check your score.. if its more then 1000 the lagfix is still enable.. my advice is to flash only if you are sure that it is disable...
if i am not wrong, OCLF can say the reason why a function is not avaible, maybe your battery is less then 40%
for flashing it is not neccesary to unroot..
Youre right, it does give the reason. When I try to remove it it says that I dont have the lagfix installed, and if I try to add the lag fix, it says that I already have another lag fix enabled, which I dont. Obviously something went wrong somewhere.
Should I just try to flash 2.2.1?
the exact error messages are as follows
when i try to remove lagfix: "You do not app0ear to have a V2 lagfix installed! (free space on /data does not match /dbdata/ext2data)"
When I try to add the fix: "You already appear to have another lag fix installed! (/system/bin/playlogos1 less than 5 kb)"
So you still dont know of the lagfix is enable??.. check your quadrant score.. if this is below 1000, this will mean that the fix is disable, so you can start flashing..
I just assumed it wasn't applied anymore and installed update and it worked. Lucky me I guess haha, thanks for help
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