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Sgs and iphone 4

I wonder why my sgs ui can never be smoother than my iphone 4 ui? A any one know how to make it faster
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japonesque said:
I wonder why my sgs ui can never be smoother than my iphone 4 ui? A any one know how to make it faster
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Zeam launcher + Universal Lagfix + tweaks + disable all animations = smooth as buttah

I own both as well. You can flash a custom ROM to the device with lots of the useless junk removed, and install a lag fix. Start with the FAQs on this site if you haven't already.
I must say though, I have never been so torn between two devices. I love the iPhone 4s stability and application quality. On the other hand, the SGS satisfies my primal need to mod and hack things. I also prefer the weight of the sgs. iPhone is a bit too heavy and fragile for my liking.

just install a custom ROM for your corresponding firmware and voodoo lagfix. done.
smooth and fast.
no need for taskkillers either.

The only thing that is (still) better on the iThing is the browser.
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It its smooth because iOS implements hardware acceleration. It uses the graphics chip to render the animations, which makes everything seamless and smooth. This is easy because iOS is designed completely around around the iPhone. Android was designed for use in hundreds of devices with different hardware, so it does not use hardware acceleration (yet).
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richan90 said:
It its smooth because iOS implements hardware acceleration. It uses the graphics chip to render the animations, which makes everything seamless and smooth. This is easy because iOS is designed completely around around the iPhone. Android was designed for use in hundreds of devices with different hardware, so it does not use hardware acceleration (yet).
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Well that is not the case completely. TouchWiz was indeed optimized for our graphics chip, however, without a lagfix, the access to the data is too slow and in froyo, the touchwiz launcher is too directly ported from the galaxy tab which causes our device to first render everything in 1024x600 and then scale down to 800x480 which costs a lot more resources than just rendering 800x480 or 960x640 (as on the iPhone). With the right mods, all this is corrected and you will find your SGS just as smooth as an iPhone 4. However all this requires a lot of reading and a significant amount of patience...
But It's definitely worth the reward.

Or we could wait for a:
-stable
-responsive-
-good battery life
-high performance (in addition to responsive)
-with all functions working
-with the original applications (Google and Samsung Apps)
-with the haptics
-long key press actions (menu/search, home/running apps, back/forceclose)
-sudo/root available
-apps2sd
-fully consistent user interface (with landscape mode)
build of the MIUI ROM
*drools...

ekin said:
Or we could wait for a:
-stable
-responsive-
-good battery life
-high performance (in addition to responsive)
-with all functions working
-with the original applications (Google and Samsung Apps)
-with the haptics
-long key press actions (menu/search, home/running apps, back/forceclose)
-sudo/root available
-apps2sd
-fully consistent user interface (with landscape mode)
build of the MIUI ROM
*drools...
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Or we all could start mass complaint/class action against Samsung
This phone has been heavily advitised but does not work out of the box.
I received 1 offical update via Kies just after launch, phone went from totaly useless to usable to a degree. I updated to Froyo via reg hack and phone is better but still lags. GPS is still out. Battery life is still crap. Browsing crap, WiFi crap. Both were good on Eclair

Thats funny. Is there any device where someone hasnt brought up class action? Its like suing dodge cause they advertsed the 69 charger had big engine..but suspension and drag stunk... You could wait for the test drive results and dont buy one...unless you just think you have a right to have samsung make something better. i like mine. I also like finding improvements..sure.
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Darkstriker said:
Well that is not the case completely. TouchWiz was indeed optimized for our graphics chip, however, without a lagfix, the access to the data is too slow and in froyo, the touchwiz launcher is too directly ported from the galaxy tab which causes our device to first render everything in 1024x600 and then scale down to 800x480 which costs a lot more resources than just rendering 800x480 or 960x640 (as on the iPhone). With the right mods, all this is corrected and you will find your SGS just as smooth as an iPhone 4. However all this requires a lot of reading and a significant amount of patience...
But It's definitely worth the reward.
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I was going to question this and ask whether you were joking, but then I remembered this is Samsung, so it's probably true...
It's pretty tragic if that is what they're doing.

I think this is the same rant I see in all the posts about sgs, no point repeating in all the posts.
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I am using launcher pro and so far, super satisfied with it. I am on stock JP6 Froyo and no Voodoo but still smooth as butter. I am amazed, I didn't turn off any effects.
Side by side to an iPhone 4, no problem beating the smooth game although iPhone seems more consistent. At some point though, launching apps or swiping from left to right seems faster on the SGS. No kidding.

Valeo said:
I was going to question this and ask whether you were joking, but then I remembered this is Samsung, so it's probably true...
It's pretty tragic if that is what they're doing.
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Check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817466

oohh... I see... so which custom firmware with froyo do you guys recommend for me as Im using a singapore singtel handset... Thank you

oh btw will I be able to do the flashing using linux? or it had to be windows? thanks

Nexus One Performance

Basic question here is will the performance of the nexus one ever compare to the Nexus S?
When I first bought my n1, I noticed that apps opened pretty quickly, but any scrolling seemed a bit sluggish. The app drawer, home screen swiping, and scrolling in any app didn't feel or look quite as smooth as I had hoped. I looked around for a way to improve this, but have yet to find anything. CyanogenMod was nice, but didn't really help the issue. And even Google commented on their own Nexus One forums about improving it at one point. But that never seemed to come about.
I went to a best buy the other day to check out the Nexus S and the difference was huge. Scrolling and all other animations, even with live wallpapers on was fantastically smooth and fluid.
Both phones have a 1ghz CPU and 512 MB of ram. Shouldn't the Nexus One be able to perform as well?
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I played with the nexus s next to my nexus one 2 times for 45min each, and I couldn't find any difference between the two speeds, which made me happy with my nexus one. You sure you don't need a wipe or something.
The snap dragon out performs the hummingbird in many types of computational operations. The graphics is the only advantage the hummingbird really has.

I've noticed a lot of complaints in the Nexus S subforum about sluggishness/laggy stuff, just like people say the N1 has.

Yeah well the nexus s owners discovered that their phone does not yet have graphics acceleration for things like the web browser, so the nexus one murders the nexus s on many specific types of web pages. This will be fixed when the proper update comes out, just like it did on the galaxy phones. But still, how could Google release the nexus s like that. Insane.

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Basic question here is will the performance of the nexus one ever compare to the Nexus S?
When I first bought my n1, I noticed that apps opened pretty quickly, but any scrolling seemed a bit sluggish. The app drawer, home screen swiping, and scrolling in any app didn't feel or look quite as smooth as I had hoped. I looked around for a way to improve this, but have yet to find anything. CyanogenMod was nice, but didn't really help the issue. And even Google commented on their own Nexus One forums about improving it at one point. But that never seemed to come about.
I went to a best buy the other day to check out the Nexus S and the difference was huge. Scrolling and all other animations, even with live wallpapers on was fantastically smooth and fluid.
Both phones have a 1ghz CPU and 512 MB of ram. Shouldn't the Nexus One be able to perform as well?
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i agree that the nexus one's scrolling seems a bit sluggish. Using launcher pro made a difference to me. you should try it. also CM now has the option for overshoot when scrolling in the menus (think iphone scrolling). My phone seems smoother now. live wallpapers still make the phone a little sluggish though

I tried with the nexus s & compared to my nexus one I didn't find any big speed/scrolling differences.

Yeah, I recently was changing my live wallpaper and decided to check out a couple of non-live to see what they looked like. I have had my N1 for about 9 months, and had a live wallpaper on the whole time. I couldn't believe the change when I moved to a static-WP. Boy do I feel dumb, but happy!

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Yeah, I recently was changing my live wallpaper and decided to check out a couple of non-live to see what they looked like. I have had my N1 for about 9 months, and had a live wallpaper on the whole time. I couldn't believe the change when I moved to a static-WP. Boy do I feel dumb, but happy!
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not only does a static wallpaper make an enormous difference in scrolling, but install launcher pro and the scrolling becomes even smoother, like 55 fps smooth. its butta.....

I do use LPP, and have for most of my phone ownership time. I also recently turned off 3d scrolling. Makes the app drawer pop up so nice, but I miss the 3D.

Galaxy S - not as expected

People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.

You are right and wrong.
Sgs is not slow.
Based on your descrioption it appears that your problem only apears after you have installed lot of apps. I would bet this is because a lot of these apps have services running and auto load at startup.
The android platform's implementation of true multitasking does inherently introduce issues like lags when when critical resources like memory is depleted. Sgs only has 512mb ram. So when lots of services run in the background, it slows down and although it tries to free up ram, it can overwhelmed when all those apps tries to restart itself.
Task killers / autostarts app / kernel and tunings can only do so much based on my experience.
Best option is to be more selective with app download and what you really want to keep on the phone.
IPhone doesn't have true multitasking thus don't havr the same issue and appears faster. Of course the UI is GPU accelerated which helps.
So really depends how much you yourself multitask at then of the day and whether you need it. Many don't and thus find iPhone ideal.
Ice cream sandwich will bring gpu acceleration mainstream to android.
Still loving my sgs. I have an ipad2 which I also love but squirm when I wanted it to multitask.
My 2 cents sharing
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I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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LOL same here

Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides

vash_stanped said:
Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides
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This man knows his stuff.

Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Whoa.
I'm pretty sure Apple underclocks more than overclocks the majority of their devices. I read that the iPhone 4S, for example, was underclocked to 800MHz (from 1000MHz, I'm assuming).

I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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I don't know if Wikipedia is a good enough source for you, but it says so right under the Wikipedia article for Underclocking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underclocking
"Most smartphones and PDAs, such as the Motorola Droid, Palm Pre, and Apple iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s, use the "underclocking" of a more powerful processor, rather than the full clocking of a less powerful processor, to maximize battery life. The designers for such mobile devices often discover that a slower processor gives worse battery life than a more powerful processor at a lower clock rate. They select a processor on the basis of the performance per watt of the processor."
I'm sure you could find more credible sources if you googled it.

smiles.smiley said:
People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.
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If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.

disclaimernotice said:
If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.
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I keep hearing this and i want to try it for myself which froyo rom would you recommend?

I heard that a lot too. But I have friends running on 2.2.1 asked me to help them to get their device to 2.3.3/2.3.4. The reason they gave me was that their phones are much laggier than mine.

why is this thing so damn slow...

Just bought it yesterday, posting from it now in fact. Absolutely love the screen and form factor, its perfect in that sense...however with touchwiz 3.2 it was just unusable. Went to overcome, didn't help still too slow.
I'm now on cm9 and its still just so damn slow. The browser isn't smooth at all, playing games like anomaly hd and shadow gun just aren't smooth and seem like they're running at 15 fps, and trying to play HD content just depresses me because it doesn't work.
So I feel like I'm stuck with an amazing tablet which is just useless.
Is the situation ever going to get better? Am I doing something wrong? Should I just sell the thing even though I only got it yesterday? I watched a million videos before I bought it so I knew what to expect but using it constantly is just a different story...

Thats tegra2.
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I would indeed seem that Tegra 2 is a broken CPU. Never seen a fully smooth tegra device, even a WVGA phone running ICS, its not a lack of power, its just poorly designed and isn't able to deliver its power. I wonder if it's a memory controller issue. The PS3 also has a broken GPU (also nVidia!), but because its a single closed system its been worked around.
You CAN improve things somewhat though. Games arent slow for me, or the browser, but the homescreen is bad. Overclocking helps (running at 1.4ghz here with no issues), change the CPU scaling threshold to 65% increase the sampling rate.
Different launchers improve things to, but none are 100% perfect. ADW EX has a silky smooth homescreen and app draw, but scrolling widgets are slow. Go launcher HD is slightly slower in the homescreen, but widgets are much better.
Part of the problem is Honeycomb which is slow, the ICS builds we have now arent perfect, but they aren't built from Samsung sources. Once we have real Sammy ROMs and Sources to work from things should improve.

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I would indeed seem that Tegra 2 is a broken CPU. Never seen a fully smooth tegra device, even a WVGA phone running ICS, its not a lack of power, its just poorly designed and isn't able to deliver its power. I wonder if it's a memory controller issue. The PS3 also has a broken GPU (also nVidia!), but because its a single closed system its been worked around.
You CAN improve things somewhat though. Games arent slow for me, or the browser, but the homescreen is bad. Overclocking helps (running at 1.4ghz here with no issues), change the CPU scaling threshold to 65% increase the sampling rate.
Different launchers improve things to, but none are 100% perfect. ADW EX has a silky smooth homescreen and app draw, but scrolling widgets are slow. Go launcher HD is slightly slower in the homescreen, but widgets are much better.
Part of the problem is Honeycomb which is slow, the ICS builds we have now arent perfect, but they aren't built from Samsung sources. Once we have real Sammy ROMs and Sources to work from things should improve.
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Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...

All hd games and content run fine for me. I'm on stock, not rooted. Using GO Launcher HD. Maybe I got lucky?

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Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
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You are judging Alpha software (CM9) as if it were final as in Stable status. Things will improve even more when Samsung releases source. In my experience, this tablet has been smooth with ADW EX. Perfectly usable, no stuttering, almost no lag, speedy and long lasting battery. Hey and this is with unfinished software (ICS) due to lack of source! I even had a good experience with firmware LA3. Just ditch the TouchWiz launcher. It helps a lot. If you still want to leave the tablet, be my guest, your choice.
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You can use SetCPU to adjust the CPU thresholds. It basically changes load at which the CPU scales up its clock rate, makes it more responsive, but wont make it faster at its peak.

Also, remember to make sure the CPU Governor is set to Interactive and not On Demand.
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nirogu325 said:
You are judging Alpha software (CM9) as if it were final as in Stable status. Things will improve even more when Samsung releases source. In my experience, this tablet has been smooth with ADW EX. Perfectly usable, no stuttering, almost no lag, speedy and long lasting battery. Hey and this is with unfinished software (ICS) due to lack of source! I even had a good experience with firmware LA3. Just ditch the TouchWiz launcher. It helps a lot. If you still want to leave the tablet, be my guest, your choice.
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Tbh I don't think this is a fair argument, the thing shipped with honeycomb finalized and even had an update, neither of which was alpha software and they both sucked and were completely unusable. The fact that I had to root and am currently using cm9 just so that I can use the thing reasonably is ridiculous...
I'm using cm9 and it is a lot better but I still find that games don't run smoothly, scrolling isn't smooth and there's a lot of lag
I do have it over locked to 1.4 and have governor set to interactive as well as I/O set to snoop. Its at least usable now but its so disappointing seeing such an amazing piece of hardware gone to waste. It kills the iPad on every level but the software just lets it down so badly....

We just need to wait, and hope for the best with ICS kernel. Tegra 2 ain't that bad, it's like every other Tegra 2 out there, it has its limitations, HD videos are one of them. Considering what my job is, i get a lot of Android tablets, but none of them were completely smooth, it's Android fault mostly.
The best i got so far was Transformer Prime, but that's Tegra 3, but the smoothest one of Tegra 2 ones was definitely Motorola Xoom. If Xoom can be that smooth with Honeycomb when i tested it, there is hope for this model yet. Software is the thing that needs fixing, so this model gets what it deserves. Even then, it won't be as smooth as iPad, and with every new Android version i am more and more sceptical that level of smoothness will ever be achieved.

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We just need to wait, and hope for the best with ICS kernel. Tegra 2 ain't that bad, it's like every other Tegra 2 out there, it has its limitations, HD videos are one of them. Considering what my job is, i get a lot of Android tablets, but none of them were completely smooth, it's Android fault mostly.
The best i got so far was Transformer Prime, but that's Tegra 3, but the smoothest one of Tegra 2 ones was definitely Motorola Xoom. If Xoom can be that smooth with Honeycomb when i tested it, there is hope for this model yet. Software is the thing that needs fixing, so this model gets what it deserves. Even then, it won't be as smooth as iPad, and with every new Android version i am more and more sceptical that level of smoothness will ever be achieved.
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I don't think iOS smoothness will ever be achieved, its definitely an android limitation.
As for HD movies I've tried dice player, mobo player vplayer and mx video player...only dice seems to give a decent framerate but still has a lot of slowdown. Some of the other players don't even play audio which is a bit weird, but that's probably my fault not messing about with the settings.
Any tips for sorting out the video? Or will tegra2 never be able to handle it? Because if that's the case this is definitely a waste of a very good screen and while it'll break my heart, will have to sell it...
EDIT: also is there any fix to get 3d gaming to run a bit faster? Will doing a system wipe, dalvik cache and cache partition wipe and reflash help you reckon?

Tegra can play HD, but its limited in what encoding methods it likes. Its certainly no match for Exynos, which will play pretty much anything. Samsung really messed up by not using their own brilliant processor in the Tab. Frankly the Exynos is better than the Tegra 3!
iOS is smooth, but slightly slow. It doesnt react as fast as Android, its animations are just more 'sedate', but as a result, buttery smooth. The problem with android is that in the rush to animate it can microstutter unless it has the CPUs total attention. My SGS2 with a custom ICS ROM and a few further tweaks is like lightening, totally smooth and faster to animate than iOS. I doubt a Tegra device will ever be able to do that, but it should do a lot better than it is now.

dairymasta said:
Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
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Don't use chrome it's slow.
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I don't think iOS smoothness will ever be achieved, its definitely an android limitation.
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You mean iOS is limited, that's why is smooth.

rovex said:
Tegra can play HD, but its limited in what encoding methods it likes. Its certainly no match for Exynos, which will play pretty much anything. Samsung really messed up by not using their own brilliant processor in the Tab. Frankly the Exynos is better than the Tegra 3!
iOS is smooth, but slightly slow. It doesnt react as fast as Android, its animations are just more 'sedate', but as a result, buttery smooth. The problem with android is that in the rush to animate it can microstutter unless it has the CPUs total attention. My SGS2 with a custom ICS ROM and a few further tweaks is like lightening, totally smooth and faster to animate than iOS. I doubt a Tegra device will ever be able to do that, but it should do a lot better than it is now.
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Yeah I'm running westcrips resurrection ICS on my sgs2 and its incredible. Might have to hold out for a 7.7 instead, watching videos of it playing 1080p perfectly and its just upsetting me lol
If I can somehow tweak things so I can at least was 720p videos and play games smoothly I'll be happy. Its just that games aren't running smoothly at all, tried blood and glory, anomaly HD, shadow gun, fruit ninja thd, all very laggy as if they're running between 10-15fps, especially blood and glory.
Considering a wipe and reflash but doubt it will make a difference and really can't be bothered if it won't make a difference....

I guess I'm luck. I can play samurai vengeance no problem
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Doesn't seem particularly slow to me... I mean it's no iPad but it isn't as slow as most of the HTC devices I've used.

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I guess I'm luck. I can play samurai vengeance no problem
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Yeah that runs okay, but then go try something like shadowgun or anomaly HD, its rubbish.

Once I cleared all Samsung's live widgets from the home screens, I found the home screen transitions to be generally pretty smooth on mine.
Most HD video chugs in SloMo though. Its depressing and sad. Not sure if ICS will do much, if anything to improve that.
Hopefully, Samsung will refresh the ~9in form factor in the summer with some version of Exynos.

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Yeah that runs okay, but then go try something like shadowgun or anomaly HD, its rubbish.
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Shadowgun runs perfectly smooth for me... Better than on my iPhone even...

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Shadowgun runs perfectly smooth for me... Better than on my iPhone even...
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Yeah and my movies play well too. Idk I guess I got a super tab...
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Has it improved?

I owned a T705, it was my phone and tablet, i loved it.
However, the camera was bad, and the whole Interface was very jittery.
I understand that this device is not getting updates from Samsung, but man, i sure miss the screen real state, also beautiful.
Have lollipop custom roms reached a state where they improve over samsungs touchwiz performance?
I am considering it, alas i read that a new Tab S might be coming.
Thanks.

We have unofficial build of cm12 and its very stable. Way better than touchwiz too. Its still being worked on so its not perfect. CM11 is great on it also. Both do improve performance over touchwiz. There is also a new tab s coming soon but that always expected from samsung. Up to you

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We have unofficial build of cm12 and its very stable. Way better than touchwiz too. Its still being worked on so its not perfect. CM11 is great on it also. Both do improve performance over touchwiz. There is also a new tab s coming soon but that always expected from samsung. Up to you
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How is the battery life of the cm12?

This is what I got. I measured screen on times and standby times and this is what i got. This is from the T800 so you may get less because of lte and other stuff

Well, one of the problems if you own a T-705 is that under CM you will lose the phone features (CM 11 and 12 are for the T-700 only). I suggest that you try IronRom instead: definitely smoother than stock.

One rumor we heard is that the next generation flagship tablet will have a 4:3 screen ratio and a 64-bit processor, but it won't be coming until the end of year or late summer at the least. My preference is to have a 16:10 screen on my tab s.

I'd like a 4:3 personally since I do way more reading on my tablet than anything else. 16:10 is better for watching videos, but that's what I have my TV for
I don't have the money to upgrade so soon though

Thank you all for your Input.
My question is, with say, IronRom, is the performance improvement noticeable?
I found The Tab S beautiful, but very choppy overall, maybe the processor wasnt optimized for 2k, even with some custom ROMs (i used Selamba mostly back in the day) the performance of the UI was very below par, however, applications ran well enough, this led me to believe that it might have been touchwiz and not the hardware itself.
Thank you.

Satorikn said:
Thank you all for your Input.
My question is, with say, IronRom, is the performance improvement noticeable?
I found The Tab S beautiful, but very choppy overall, maybe the processor wasnt optimized for 2k, even with some custom ROMs (i used Selamba mostly back in the day) the performance of the UI was very below par, however, applications ran well enough, this led me to believe that it might have been touchwiz and not the hardware itself.
Thank you.
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Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.
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I wish there was a video on how it works on the user interface, i currently own a OnePlus one and have the chance to sell it, i miss the size of a tablet, but i dont want to regret getting it and find out the stutter is still there, there are rumors that it will be getting Lollipop soon too (Tab S), and maybe those optimizations will make the difference.
Thanks again.

Satorikn said:
I wish there was a video on how it works on the user interface, i currently own a OnePlus one and have the chance to sell it, i miss the size of a tablet, but i dont want to regret getting it and find out the stutter is still there, there are rumors that it will be getting Lollipop soon too (Tab S), and maybe those optimizations will make the difference.
Thanks again.
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Lollipop is coming in march/april (sammobile confirmed/estimate). I couldnt find a video on the performance

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Lollipop is coming in march/april (sammobile confirmed/estimate). I couldnt find a video on the performance
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I was planning to get the T-705 because i dont like carrying two devices around, thats the thing with CM11/12, they dont support calls, so id have to go with IronRom with is pretty much touchwiz, and while it may have optimizations, i dont expect miracles

Satorikn said:
I owned a T705, it was my phone and tablet, i loved it.
I understand that this device is not getting updates from Samsung
Thanks.
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Wait. WHAT??

No, they are updating it, but official updates stopped at 4.4.2, now we have news that they will update it to Lollipop, but after release, there was no continuous updates as with their other devices, and for some people, it was a good sign that samsung just abandoned the device, that's what i meant.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.
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Come on guys, which part of the stock GUI or launcher is actually choppy? Where is the mythical lag? Haven't seen it myself.

Akopps said:
Come on guys, which part of the stock GUI or launcher is actually choppy? Where is the mythical lag? Haven't seen it myself.
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The part where its choppy on stock firmware is just scrolling through the launcher. It lags when just scrolling through the launcher and switching between some apps (ex clash of clans). Iron rom has none of that. Sometimes the GUI lags when you have too many apps open and it uses all the ram. Example like 16 games open all at once. It can freeze and force a reboot. GUI doesnt lag that much like the launcher. Hope this helps!

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
The part where its choppy on stock firmware is just scrolling through the launcher. It lags when just scrolling through the launcher and switching between some apps (ex clash of clans). Iron rom has none of that. Sometimes the GUI lags when you have too many apps open and it uses all the ram. Example like 16 games open all at once. It can freeze and force a reboot. GUI doesnt lag that much like the launcher. Hope this helps!
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I am not sure which part of scrolling through launcher is supposed to give lag. I have three screens worth of application icons in the app launcher and I had no problems with those. As for having 16 games open, I don't see how that represents typical usage.

Akopps said:
I am not sure which part of scrolling through launcher is supposed to give lag. I have three screens worth of application icons in the app launcher and I had no problems with those. As for having 16 games open, I don't see how that represents typical usage.
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Lol yeah. If your a typical user, 4-6 apps open or less, it can handle it. 16 apps open would be a user who stresses the cpu and gpu.

Well, in my experience there is some lag basically everywhere with the stock ROM, not only in the launcher. Loading pages and scrolling is also slightly choppy in any browser, and also in applications that use WebView components.
I wouldn't rate this as very evident, especially because the CPU has plenty of cores, but it is there.
With IronRom + SkyHigh kernel + Nova Launcher + things get smoothened just that small bit that makes everything feel right

stopa10 said:
Well, in my experience there is some lag basically everywhere with the stock ROM, not only in the launcher. Loading pages and scrolling is also slightly choppy in any browser, and also in applications that use WebView components.
I wouldn't rate this as very evident, especially because the CPU has plenty of cores, but it is there.
With IronRom + SkyHigh kernel + Nova Launcher + things get smoothened just that small bit that makes everything feel right
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My main problem with the 705 is the poor battery life. Does IronRom improve this?