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Android on Xperia - Is it worth it?

I've been seeing a lot of activity of android development for windows mobile and I wanted to know if I should even bother loading Android on my device.
So I have a few general questions.
1. Can someone tell me how fast android runs on xperia? The reason I ask is because WM is great, but only when it's not lagging or freezing. I'm guessing it would lag just as much or more than WM since it's running on top of WM. (though some of my reading says that android is "not" runing at the same time as WM?)
2. At this point the main features Android on Xperia lacks is:
-reliable battery
-gps (According to this article gps should be coming soon to xperia right?)
-bluetooth?
-camera
3. Once all the above features are working it will be possible to make an android rom for the xperia?
That's it.
If Android is not too slow and the GPS and battery issue is fixed then I can see myself using Android on my Xperia.
Thanks in advanced for those who reply.

If you want a real phone OS you have to stick to WM for now. Android is "emulated" through Haret from within WM. Haret is supposed to reboot the device and make it so the device boots into Android, but it only runs off of the SD card. If you run an ultra-lite ROM it is almost like you are running an Android ROM, but it is still patchwork and the kernel is incomplete. So it will be a little slow and there will be some missing capabilities.
There has been a very promising improvement since the Xperoid began, and it is perfectly safe to test, but it is not yet ready for daily use, in my opinion.

realaxed said:
I've been seeing a lot of activity of android development for windows mobile and I wanted to know if I should even bother loading Android on my device.
So I have a few general questions.
1. Can someone tell me how fast android runs on xperia? The reason I ask is because WM is great, but only when it's not lagging or freezing. I'm guessing it would lag just as much or more than WM since it's running on top of WM. (though some of my reading says that android is "not" runing at the same time as WM?)
2. At this point the main features Android on Xperia lacks is:
-reliable battery
-gps (According to this article gps should be coming soon to xperia right?)
-bluetooth?
-camera
3. Once all the above features are working it will be possible to make an android rom for the xperia?
That's it.
If Android is not too slow and the GPS and battery issue is fixed then I can see myself using Android on my Xperia.
Thanks in advanced for those who reply.
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1. Android is better than WM, and Faster.
2. Battery is almost fixed, GPS and Camera are coming after fixing battery.
3. when Android is working fine a ROM will be made naturally.
personally, I dont need GPS or camera.

Minus GPS and camera, which are two things which I really only use about once a week, Android is a perfectly acceptable replacement for WM. Battery will not get you through the day though.
Really it's not that hard to try it out, just give it a go and see if you like it. Keep in mind there will always be improvements being made.

At the moment, Android is just for fun. It's a really nice OS, and the work thats being done on this forum is staggering considering its being done by people UNPAID, and IN THERE OWN TIME! Sorry just like to stress that point to people who moan... Huge teams of HTC employees are on 60-70K a year writing code that these guys will probably end up doing a better job of for free, but I digress...
If you want to play around with HTC Sense on Android, which is my current toy, you have to make do without Wifi, GPS, Camera, but I don't experience the huge drop in battery life that everyone else does. Maybe I'm just lucky. If you're patient and wait for everything to load, I'd say that it is actually faster than WinMo. The Clean/Glossy versions have a greater capabilty (you get wifi and such like) and are even faster. Probably best to try that one first. Hope that answers your first two questions.
To the last, we're a long way off a ROM, but if things progress at their current rate I don't see why we can't have one some time before we all retire our Xperia's.
To your thread title, as long as you don't expect too much at this stage and you are willing to accept that this is just a "proof of concept" there's no reason not to try it. All you're loosing is half a GB on storage space on you're SD... And the more people that try it, the quicker bugs can be ironed out, and the major things like camera and GPS can be fixed.

Android is worth the workload. It's running smoth on the X1 and much better than WinMobile. Thanks to the developers.

I don't know why it has to Windows Mobile OR Android.
I for once really like the ability to have a multi-os system.
Therefor I try often new Xperoid builds and am quite impressed by the improvement.
Thanks to everyone working on it !
Greetings
SlowlyDead

[Q] Where is RC1-7.0.0-11.02.18 CM7 for Milestone?

I see in the Dev forum that the first RC1 of Cyanogenmod 7 for Milestone is available, but when I go to download it here, it doesn't seem to be available. I guess it would be called update-cm-7.0.0-RC1-0.07-11.02.18-Milestone-signed.zip but that last one available was the 11.02.15 release. Does anyone know whether the RC1-7.0.0-11.02.18 has been withdrawn for some reason?
I've been testing each and every build with good success, so I'm really keen to try the new one. I would ask in the dev forum, but I'm relatively new at the XDA forum and am therefore not eligible to post in it.
SF

Well, I eventually found the correct download link at https://github.com/downloads/nadlabak/android/update-cm-7.0.0-RC1-0.07-11.02.18-Milestone-signed.zip
Thanks,
SF

How is it working out so far? I've recently just started using cm6 but I don't want to install too much / get invested in it if CM7 is solid enough to use day 2 day.

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How is it working out so far? I've recently just started using cm6 but I don't want to install too much / get invested in it if CM7 is solid enough to use day 2 day.
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I would stick with cm6 for now. CM7 could use many improvements and as of now is very memory hungry (I was on the feb.10 release). CM7, however, has many bug fixes that are not implemented in cm6, for example, the wifi fix (wasn't working with some n routers before I think [depending on the security type or something] ) and it seems as though there is also the random freeze + random reboot fix (using another, older kernel) I would not switch to CM7, until many bugs are fixed. Also some games don't work.

FANdroid said:
How is it working out so far? I've recently just started using cm6 but I don't want to install too much / get invested in it if CM7 is solid enough to use day 2 day.
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It's great. But video playing not working for me.

So I installed CM7 to try it out, and on RC1 my videos play fine (widescreen) using the included "Video" app. Well most of them do, one of them is displayed 4:3 for some reason?

I'm finding that it works quite well. Battery life is good, but there are a few bugs that need working out. CM6 is probably better if you need your phone to be 100% reliable, but I like to push the boundaries and play around.
Bugs or missing features so far:
- Button lights and keyboard backlight not working properly for me (and at least one other user here)
- Auto backlight brightness not working for me at all
- Volume button swapping/remapping not yet implemented, so that in lanscape mode left means louder (which is the wrong way round for me)
- Memory usage is a problem, so that Launcher pro keeps having to re-initialise
- Camera is VERY unreliable
- Getting random reboots and lockups, especially in Google Maps
Still, things are getting better with every release and I can always go back to CM6 if I want, since I made a Nandroid backup in OpenRecovery before I installed the CM7 update. I've just installed the RC2 update, so lets see how that goes...
SF

What ROM would you recommend that's most stable and fast for the TouchPad?

Hi there.
I installed a version CM12 Tenderloin a few months back. It's pretty good for the most part but I've noticed some minor bugs with it and I'd like to try another ROM. I noticed that the CM12 roms aren't as popular as the CM11 ones based on the activity of the threads. Any particular reason why CM12 hasn't really caught on? What ROM do you recommend, and do you think is the most stable, reliable and fast?
Thanks in advance.

I came today looking to the answer to a similar question: What's the lightest rom currently for HP/TP? I used to use Oat's lite and tasty, but that's been defunct for quite some time. Is there a new hottness?

Try Jcsullins CM11
Fatal Explosion said:
Hi there.
I installed a version CM12 Tenderloin a few months back. It's pretty good for the most part but I've noticed some minor bugs with it and I'd like to try another ROM. I noticed that the CM12 roms aren't as popular as the CM11 ones based on the activity of the threads. Any particular reason why CM12 hasn't really caught on? What ROM do you recommend, and do you think is the most stable, reliable and fast?
Thanks in advance.
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nathanotis said:
I came today looking to the answer to a similar question: What's the lightest rom currently for HP/TP? I used to use Oat's lite and tasty, but that's been defunct for quite some time. Is there a new hottness?
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CM11 is still regarded as more stable, Jcsullins Rom is one of the most popular builds.
[ROM GUIDE] How to Install Android 8.1.x/7.1.2 builds on the HP TouchPad
Recommended default setup:
cm-11-20150612-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin
Philz-CWM-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140612
gapps-kk-20140105.zip

RolandDeschain79 said:
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-The latest Android 5.1.x Lollipop Roms are now available but not all the features are currently working and the battery drain during sleep is much higher than 4.4.x/5.0.x roms.
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Not true

Fatal Explosion said:
Hi there.
I installed a version CM12 Tenderloin a few months back. It's pretty good for the most part but I've noticed some minor bugs with it and I'd like to try another ROM. I noticed that the CM12 roms aren't as popular as the CM11 ones based on the activity of the threads. Any particular reason why CM12 hasn't really caught on? What ROM do you recommend, and do you think is the most stable, reliable and fast?
Thanks in advance.
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I have units running both the Evervolv and Pac Man Roms. The latest release of Shumash Pac rom is very stable with great battery performance. They are both a lot more stable than the CM12 roms.

jerryatherton said:
I have units running both the Evervolv and Pac Man Roms. The latest release of Shumash Pac rom is very stable with great battery performance. They are both a lot more stable than the CM12 roms.
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shumash said:
Not true
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I stand corrected, thanks for the information I will update that post cheers:highfive:

I've tried so many versions over the past few months and my personal consensus is that any 5.0 rom is most stable. However, all I do is watch YouTube and browse internet.
Here's a breakdown of my experiences:
5.1 Roms (PacMan and Evervolv)
Wifi issues: Frequently stops transmitting data. Need to either restart tablet or toggle wifi on/off to reset.
Youtube often will start to stutter and then stops playback completely. Sometimes videos just won't play
General responsiveness is not smooth. Lots of momentary hangs
VPN connects but does no routing (OpenVPN). Leaks my IP
5.0 Roms (Milaq)
Some Wifi issues: not as bad as 5.1 but I will occasionally need to reset wifi
Youtube plays prettty good. Some slowdown on 720p videos but does not stop. Sometimes videos don't play, needs app restart
Smooth UI and app responsiveness
VPN connects but does no routing (OpenVPN). Leaks my IP
4.4 Roms (Milaq and Jscullins)
Very smooth from the get go. LIttle to no pauses
Wifi is rock solid
VPN works as expected
Youtube very often stutters with audio/video and will stop playback until app is terminated and restarted. A real experience killer
Very frequent OS restarts. The deal breaker for me. Happens almost every 30 minutes or so.
So, tl;dr, 5.0 is the best. 5.1 the worst, and 4.4 is middle of the road. No complete rom atm, in my opinion.
5.0 would be my instant recommendation if not for VPN not working. I think it's clearly a lollipop issue as the exact profiles work fine in cm11

Thanks everyone. I hate to revive an old post but I've been really busy and never got around to installing a new ROM yet. Basically I only want to install a more stable ROM so I can give it to my son to watch videos from time to time. He really only uses it for 3 things;
1) Youtube
2) Watch videos I've downloaded for him using MX Player
3) Play kiddie learning games
5.0 actually does the job quite well, but not up to my satisfaction as I'm rather picky. I'd like to increase the battery life if possible, and I do find the performance to be a little sluggish compared to what I had before. Right now on a full charge the tablet can last maybe 48 hours with light use, 24 hours with moderate use, and 4-5 hours if used heavily.
One thing that really bugs me with 5.0 is that if I stream any live videos from sites like vipbox.tv or gofirstrow.eu the audio is always laggy. It works fine if the stream isn't live, but only has a problem if the stream is live. I never had a problem with the old ROM which is why I'd like to go back to 4.0.
So it's been a few months now since I started this thread. Any other new ROMS that people would recommend?

I just installed jcsullins lollipop version. Yes. Working camera! Stable as a rock. Recommended!
I'm using cm-12.1-20151116-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip
Standard Non-Touch CWM Recovery
Lollipop Base Gapps package for 5.1.1
Read more here

I have tried 4.4, 5.0 and 6.0
6.0 seems the most stable but it is damn slow... youtube plays fine but often experience force closes... same for almost all apps.
4.4 is the fastest but youtube stutter a lot for some reasons; anyone got a fix??

Bump for any new updates on suggested ROMS for the Touchpad.
I just purchased another one for my youngest one who broke his a few months back.

Milaqs Lineage 11
Fatal Explosion said:
Bump for any new updates on suggested ROMS for the Touchpad.
I just purchased another one for my youngest one who broke his a few months back.
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Try Milaqs Lineage 11 build its got the latest security patches and good all-around functionality, everything works.
Download Android 4.4.4 Kitkat install files(Rom, Recovery, Gapps):
Rom:Download the latest Lineage11 build
Recovery:TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140612b.zip
Gapps:gapps-base-arm-4.4.4-20170902-1-signed.zip
Note: Do Not unzip the files.

RolandDeschain79 said:
Try Milaqs Lineage 11 build its got the latest security patches and good all-around functionality, everything works.
Download Android 4.4.4 Kitkat install files(Rom, Recovery, Gapps):
Rom:Download the latest Lineage11 build
Recovery:TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140612b.zip
Gapps:gapps-base-arm-4.4.4-20170902-1-signed.zip
Note: Do Not unzip the files.
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So you really believe that this build gives the best overall experience? I had a pacman lollipop rom on my tp for some years and it worked well but it would shut down some apps sometimes and some apps didn't work at all. I put 7.1.2 evervolv on it and it became unstable and would shut down pretty consistently. I want an os that is stable but can run apps properly and can be overclocked. Can this one be overclocked?
I put this one on but youtube vids were all messed up. Not great for my kids. I guess off to find a better rom.

YouTube fix Lineage 11
largemansmay said:
So you really believe that this build gives the best overall experience? I had a pacman lollipop rom on my tp for some years and it worked well but it would shut down some apps sometimes and some apps didn't work at all. I put 7.1.2 evervolv on it and it became unstable and would shut down pretty consistently. I want an os that is stable but can run apps properly and can be overclocked. Can this one be overclocked?
I put this one on but youtube vids were all messed up. Not great for my kids. I guess off to find a better rom.
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The user experience is subjective and depends largely on the apps you regularly use. To fix the YouTube issue open the app play a video and go to settings (three dots upper right), set the Quality to 720p. All the builds will overclock if rooted, use Kernel Adiutor here.

I find a lot of apps require at least Android 5.0
Is there a stable 5.0 rom for the TP?

I have two apps on Evervolv 9.0
Wyze cam and Youtube Vanced
Everything seems so laggy on android 9.0. Have followed the guide to increase swap to 1gb, cpu to 1.8ghz, and remove crap from rom.
So i have the same question.
as a bonus, any tips on increasing the maximum system volume would be nice

NEWBIE: What is the most stable build right now?

Greetings all, I installed CyanogenMod version 11-20141112_SNAPSHOT-M12-ovation way back. It has always been unstable and frustrating so I just walked away from the project.
Now it is 2018 and I'd like to take another crack at it. Last time I followed a guide I found online but this time I'm trying to put a bit more forethought into it and want to start from the ground up.
So first things first, what is the most stable, responsive build for the Nook HD+? I don't think I need the latest and greatest, I just want my Vudu to not crash, be able to start the dang thing up, and not have my battery drain randomly.
Thanks in advance!

amaces Lineage OS 14.1 lnos_ovation-ota-NJH47F.171021.zip - You must install pico gapps to get through initial setup easily. Apart from that, this rom is very solid. secretwolf98 is also posting builds, but I have not tested them yet.
Unlegacy-Android Nougat ua_ovation-7.1.2-20180111-0528.zip - Has a wifi bug where you lose settings after reboot. The easiest way to work around this is to connect to two wifi networks, and then disable and re-enable wifi two times. You will autoconnect to the first network automatically from then on.
amaces Marshmallow aosp_ovation-ota-MOB30Z.160820.zip - This is the most stable and mature rom in my opinion. The one major bug is that for wifi to connect on boot, you have to pull down the notification bar completely and press the wifi button to show available networks.
Edit: Forgot to mention that all these recent unlegacy-android based roms are much more stable than roms of the past. No more ANR loops, random rebooting, and the need to disable hardware overlays. Everything is generally working and stable.

amaces Lineage OS 14.1 lnos_ovation-ota-NJH47F.171021.zip looks to be the way to go, Thanks!

fddm said:
Everything is generally working and stable.
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AFAIK HDMI output does not work in recent years (unlike with CM11). Or did it change?

fanoush said:
AFAIK HDMI output does not work in recent years (unlike with CM11). Or did it change?
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Yes, afaik that is still true. I haven't got around to testing yet, but I think cm11 is still being built and is probably quite stable now days. I don't think I'd recommend buying that hardware as even the Nook's own screen is too high a resolution for it's own processor and graphics chip. I'm amazed it plays YouTube [email protected] as well as it does.

Redmi note 9 keeps freezing

Hope someone can help, the phone keeps freezing up during use, don't have many apps open. Seems to take a long time to open certain functions like the camera. Any suggestions please?

Tootiredparent said:
Hope someone can help, the phone keeps freezing up during use, don't have many apps open. Seems to take a long time to open certain functions like the camera. Any suggestions please?
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what version of miui do you currently have? i have miui 12.0.4 global version and works better them whem i buy it. maybe you can try that if you can

Hello! I have the MIUI Global 12.0.3 Stable version "QJOEUMX" and the 12.0.4 version didn't release yet, can I somehow install the version, for example V12.0.4.0.QJOMIXM, or I have to wait for the QJOEUMX to come out? Thank you!

geGekido said:
Hello! I have the MIUI Global 12.0.3 Stable version "QJOEUMX" and the 12.0.4 version didn't release yet, can I somehow install the version, for example V12.0.4.0.QJOMIXM, or I have to wait for the QJOEUMX to come out? Thank you!
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If you already checked for update and didn't get anything, then you can go to web (these are plenty), download the 12.0.4 version and install via the Updater in your phone. I was done the same things.

geGekido said:
@Tootiredparent Hello! I have the MIUI Global 12.0.3 Stable version "QJOEUMX" and the 12.0.4 version didn't release yet, can I somehow install the version, for example V12.0.4.0.QJOMIXM, or I have to wait for the QJOEUMX to come out? Thank you!
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Hi, like you I am on the globalEU release channel
I strongly recommend against trying to install firmware for the global channel (such as V12.0.4.0.QJOMIXM)
All being well the next release will drop soon, though I'm expecting an Android Q release for this phone shortly (there have been a lot of app updates in the past week)
Hopefully this may help with the freezes you're having
Tell me though, is it the 3gb or the 4gb version you have?
I ask because there was another guy posting who had the 3gb version and was reporting the same problem
MIUI is pretty bloated and needs a lot of spare memory to work well
He uninstalled a lot of MIUI apps and found it helped a lot

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Hi, like you I am on the globalEU release channel
I strongly recommend against trying to install firmware for the global channel (such as V12.0.4.0.QJOMIXM)
All being well the next release will drop soon, though I'm expecting an Android Q release for this phone shortly (there have been a lot of app updates in the past week)
Hopefully this may help with the freezes you're having
Tell me though, is it the 3gb or the 4gb version you have?
I ask because there was another guy posting who had the 3gb version and was reporting the same problem
MIUI is pretty bloated and needs a lot of spare memory to work well
He uninstalled a lot of MIUI apps and found it helped a lot
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Hello! Thanks for your answer! I have the 3gb ram version, and the main problem is the cammera lagging and some games , like Pokemon go, are unplayable (sometimes the game won't even start, sometimes when i restart the phone works just fine for.. a couple of minutes). I guess i have to wait for the globalEU release :silly: . Thank you again for take the time to reply.

geGekido said:
Hello! Thanks for your answer! I have the 3gb ram version, and the main problem is the cammera lagging and some games , like Pokemon go, are unplayable (sometimes the game won't even start, sometimes when i restart the phone works just fine for.. a couple of minutes). I guess i have to wait for the globalEU release :silly: . Thank you again for take the time to reply.
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No problem - happy to help
The new firmware release may help a little bit I'm not expecting miracles. MIUI is just too big - something like RAM monitor from Google Play will show you how little spare memory there is on your 3gb system
Really, since there's no way of expanding your memory, the best option seems to be to reduce unnecessary processes
You might find this YouTube link helpful for some guidance on removal of unnecessary bloatware https://youtu.be/3qpYkUQwF6E

Here is everything working perfectly.
No one app keeps freezing.
Try posting pictures.
Do you need help with your MERLIN device ?
Read this FAQ: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...for-merlin-redmi-10x-4g-redmi-note-9.4225177/