hd7 and wp7 still rough around the edges - HD7 General

I bit the bullet this weekend and actually purchased a HD7 after noticing the bargain basement price of £380 for the phone on O2 PAYG.
Windows phone 7 is pretty cool except that microsoft and/or HTC forgot that this phone sits on your desk in Landscape mode.
What Microsoft need to is enable these changes and it'd be a pretty good phone.
1. enable the start screen to rotate to landscape and scroll horizontally through the tiles.
2. enable zune player to rotate to landscape including the radio.
3. enable the lock screen to convert to landscape if on charge and enable the proximity sensor to flick the screen on to show the current time when you get closer to it.
4. enable custom colour selection of the Accent colour (color for US). (i personally dislike most of the options)
5. enable custom ringers
6. when we touch the top let us turn on and off different connectivity options or a shortcut to the settings - I don't need or want a live tile for this but having to scroll constantly to find settings is hell.
7. make the volume level more visible - volume across the screen not vertically.
8. enable bookmark on zune. I may have video or music that i want to continue where I left off from if I play something else. In fact I do.
What HTC need to do is
1. pump up the volume on the phone. it's got more speakers than the hd2 but so much quieter and this phone is supposed to be a multimedia phone.
2. optional install of your htc font - I fell in love with your font on the desire hd.
3. speed up your notes application launch time. I love the notic board but it took a while to open it when I needed it today.
I'm sure there's many more things but this'll do to start with.

I believe MS has done a tremendous job In WP7. Sure, there are shortcomings with every first release of new operating systems, however, many of these will no doubt be addressed at some point in its' further development.
I've had the HD7 for a few days - it shows good promise and I've decided to stick with it for as long as possible. A few rough edges but it's got what it takes to be a solid and robust operating system that I believe most would easily adopt.

Thanks for the input. When you mention volume. How is the ringer volume and text message volume?

ratchetjaw said:
Thanks for the input. When you mention volume. How is the ringer volume and text message volume?
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awful, but the range of tones is appalling tbh and they are all very tinny so it doesn't help. Also the volume being centralised means if you adjust the volume in a game or in the zune player, the ringer gets changed also.

frontieruk said:
awful, but the range of tones is appalling tbh and they are all very tinny so it doesn't help. Also the volume being centralised means if you adjust the volume in a game or in the zune player, the ringer gets changed also.
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Oh okay that's no good. Thanks for the info. Is the vibrate strong at least?

ratchetjaw said:
Oh okay that's no good. Thanks for the info. Is the vibrate strong at least?
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yeah do tell, the vibe on the HD2 is pretty bad compared to the TP2

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Feedback wanted

App now on the market, thanks for all your help.
great emulation. see my magic/sapphire device specs below...
no sound
very slow response to fire/shoot tap
...other than those issues, nice work.
Hi, great looking and I like the neat touches about adding 10p etc.
Comments - as posted above, no sound and the motion of the base is very slow either by motion detection or using the trackball. Though the trackball seemed to be very intermittent.
I'm running a T-Mobile G2 touch with the latest stock rom. All other background apps, had been disabled too.
Most gracious thanks for your comments. I think I've found the sound bug proper now. I've also found a vast improvement in speed after some GFX tweaks.
The control issues sound odd as both the emulator & my i7500 don't have these problems (but neither have a trackball, the emulator has no sensor), maybe the speed increase will fix things, as the phone was probably getting bogged down with unnecessary drawPixels.
Version 5 is available in the 1st post above, be grateful of any further feedback.
Edit: I've also updated the sensor updated time to maximum to see if that helps.
Great improvemnet.
Sound - now works, firing, explosions, flying saucer. Though the sound of the "invaders" moving is slow, but I am guessing that is as the original?
Movement - The motion sensor works fine now, though the trackball still does not function for left or right movement. If you try the trackball, the app says "motion sensor disabled", but the trackball does not move the player. The fire function works when you depress the ball though.
I love it, takes me back
Daft question but
Could this be used with other arcade roms?
Splather said:
Could this be used with other arcade roms?
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Yes, a limited few though, those what run on similar 8080 hardware (a few tweaks may be needed).
I will probably add these later.
OK, nearly at the finishing post. I reckon I've sorted the trackball issue, though I don't have a device with a trackball to test it on. I've also added the suggested full screen mode, though it runs a bit slow even after skipping a few frames, but I've left it in for the moment as it will encourage me to further optimize (will probably have a go at h/w acceleration in v2).
Version 6 Now available in the 1st post.
Trackball works fine now, not sure if it's just me but it seems slower than using the tilt method. Nice work.
I prefer the "bordered" view as it reminds me of the actual screen in the cabinet with the border around the black and white screen. Though on some machines they added coloured bands across the screen so that the invaders "appear" to change colour the lower they got. Maybe you could add that in?
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Just a thought, not sure if you can do it, but can you override the "back" key functionality, then you could use it as a fire button and the trackball would be movement only. This way it is slightly more authentic in having the left right control and a fire button just like the original.
OMG that's slow!
Uninstalled... sorry
Love the idea, though
beaker656 said:
Trackball works fine now, not sure if it's just me but it seems slower than using the tilt method. Nice work.
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Seem to have a problem there... read the new control instructions in version & to see if that helps. It's hard to sort until I get a real device.
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I prefer the "bordered" view as it reminds me of the actual screen in the cabinet with the border around the black and white screen. Though on some machines they added coloured bands across the screen so that the invaders "appear" to change colour the lower they got. Maybe you could add that in?
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You might be thinking of 'Space Invaders Part II' or 'Space Invaders Deluxe'
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Just a thought, not sure if you can do it, but can you override the "back" key functionality, then you could use it as a fire button and the trackball would be movement only. This way it is slightly more authentic in having the left right control and a fire button just like the original.
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You can still used the touch screen when using the trackball.
I don't fancy overriding the back key
Henrikmand said:
OMG that's slow!
Uninstalled... sorry
Love the idea, though
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I've tried extra hard to speed things up a bit more in version 7.
Might be able to squeeze a bit more???
NEW UPDATE: v7
more speed
vibrator
control tweaks
U seem to just have increased the gamespeed, it still laggs like before.
Very slow and lag in sound.
Looks promising...
Hi guys and gals.
Long story... Gave my code a bit of decent profiling to see what was going on with the trackball. Seems like the cpu emulation core is taking so much time up that there is very little left for the main thread to pick up any events, and when it did, it bogged down the cpu thread. Trackball events have a huge time overhead with keyPressEvents the least, TouchEvents lie some where in the middle.
A nice solution would be to replace my java 8080 cpu source with native code (anyone want to help out here?), but my skills level is probably not up to it.
So, trackball support has now gone completely , replaced with screen buttons. Dpad will still work though, and touching almost anywhere on the screen, other than the left/right buttons will fire too (so your fingers aren't all over the place). Let me know what you's all think.
Found some extra speedups from the cpu core too, but had to butcher a lot of nicely structured code to get the gains.
Updated the first Post with the last version.
Thanks all.
Tidied up the GUI and while I was there...
Deluxe Support.
Catch the APK in the first post.
Could someone give it a final try to see if the controls problem has been fixed???
Thanks very much.
Now on the market. Thanks for all your help.
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Now on the market. Thanks for all your help.
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Well thats fine but since you've edited the thread now we don't know the title of this thing anymore

Updated [16/11]: [App] [G-Sensor] [Brand New] The XSense v1.0

Credits:
Foremost, let us all acknowledge Koushik for his brilliant "Sensors" library upon which most if not all non-HTC apps that use the G-Sensor, Light-Sensor, and Navi-Sensor are built, simply ingenious. Moreover, I would like to recognize No2chem for the NeuLed2 library which is an equally exquisite peace of code that allows access to the Diamond/Pro Leds. Without those two guys, accessing these advance interfaces on the diamond/pro would be inapproachable at best.
Reason: Since I bought my Diamond, I constantly thought HTC gave it a lot of sensors but nearly no .."Sense".
......... X-Sense ...........
* Hopefully, an innovaton & integration of RANDOM but needful features...
Features:
1. Courtesy Settings:
- Select Volume Profiles to activate on Face-Down & Face-UP events. Choose from: None, Silent, Normal, and Vibrate. You can also choose to suspend the Phone when its facing down (duh!).
- Automatically activate/deactivate the Speakerphone during phone calls depending on the phone's posture. In other words, if you're not holding the phone up then it will automatically activate the Speakerphone.
2. Notifications-Sense:
- IF there is/are any outstanding notification(s), the device will vibrate whenever you move it at customizable intervals: Missed Call(s), Voice Mail, and SMS only.
3. Stylus-Sense:- When the Stylus is in/out: Will play faint sound + Blink the Back button's light +/Vibrate. Moreover, the device will vibrate whenever you move it at customizable intervals.
- When the Stylus is out and the device is moved: Device will vibrate twice on every posture change + blink the Back button's light to REMIND you that the Stylus has not been placed back in. This goes ON until the Stylus is placed where it should be.
* Uses "in.wav" & "out.wav" files in the \XSense\ Dir; you can use whatever wave files for this.
4. General Settings:
- Polling Interval: From 200 to 3000 Miliseconds. This determines the rate at which the G-Sensor is polled. Lower values give higher response times and fluid operation at the cost of battery life & CPU utilization.
- Flash Navi Lights: Will blink button lights to notify you of Profile changes and Stylus In/Out.
- Vibrate on Events: Will induce very subtle vibrations to notify you of Notifications and Profile changes.
- Suspend when UP-Side-Down: Your phone will suspend if you hold it up-side-down (duh!)
- Light Navi Button When Suspended: Will do just that. This is an independent setting that turns ON the Navi button's light at suspend time, and OFF at Resume time (this is Event Driven, so no polling is involved). This feature really helps if, like me, you want to see where the damn thing is in the dark - before you launch it against the floor.
6. Installs to "\Program Files\XSense", and Creates 2 shortcuts:
"Start Menu\Programs\XSense" and "Startup\XSenseSvc".
Program Settings are saved to the Registry at "HKCU\Software\XSense\".
Use of System Resources:
1. Diskspace: 162 KB RAM footprint: 374-535 KB Battery: NOT observed.
2. CPU Usage: %0.29 Average. Spikes for 2 seconds to %2.7 - %8.5.
* Indicated CPU usage occurs ONLY when there is an EVENT (posture changed, stylus in/out Sounds playing,
etc)
Logic:
- During phone calls, All features are suspended except the Speakerphone-specific code.
- Program will respond to posture changes only 2 seconds after they have occured, this is to
avoid unintended operation ( as much as possible ).
- Vibration: The way I like it is in waves of 200 miliseconds length! I generally hate vibrations, so if you want it at 201 ms. you're welcome to make your own program and enjoy the merits of your personal taste.
- This prgram Registers Event Handlers for: "G-Sensor", "Incoming Call", "Phone Call in Progress", "Stylus in/out", and Power Manager events. DO NOT move it to Internal Storage, you have been warned.
Requirements:
.NET 3.5 + Diamond or Raphael.
Restrictions:
Only for the Diamond/Raphael (vis-a-vis, it will crash on any other device!)
Bugs/Limitations:
Knock yourself out...
Disclaimer:
This program is provided strictly on "as is" basis. It is intended only as a proof-of-concept. Although fully functional, it must NOT be considered for daily use. This software is very likely to compromise the integrity of your data as well as invariabley cause your device to malfunction in any way, shape, or form. Therefore, the developer shall be absolved of all responsibility towards testers and/or their computers & devices. While using this software you agree to be solely liable for all and any damages you do to yourself, your device, or any damn thing you possess and care for!
Release Notes:
- Download & Install the CAB
- Run the XSense from your Start Menu\Programs, customize to taste, and enjoy!
- IF you want it, download it from the Diamond section.
NOTE: Further releases/upgrades will NOT work on the Raphael/Diamond PRO.
wheres the cab?
Cab?!?
This program sounds sweet.. Im willing to give it a go, but no cab.
This is like the april fool joke for the wireless charging app. It's a joke, the app is too good to be true
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klasital said:
This is like the april fool joke for the wireless charging app. It's a joke, the app is too good to be true
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I fell for that too man, it was NOT funny tho! Its October btw..
shirreer said:
I fell for that too man, it was NOT funny tho! Its October btw..
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And you still haven't posted the app...
Roger
96cobra said:
And you still haven't posted the app...
Roger
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Released: On first post.
Release: available on the first post. Tell me what you all think (compliments/complaints)...
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Release: available on the first post. Tell me what you all think (compliments/complaints)...
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can i have your permission to review this app on a video? i have a youtube dedicated to the FUZE but also other stuff
looks promising and nice
Nice but . . .
OK first off I love this program it works very smoothly, except for one thing, and I am sure this is a simple fix. I unzipped and copied everything to the root folder of my device. Started the application and it starts working, very cleanly I might ad. However the stylus function isn't working for me. I am sure it just has to do with the file of the wav, should I put these in any specific folder?
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can i have your permission to review this app on a video? i have a youtube dedicated to the FUZE but also other stuff
looks promising and nice
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Go right on man, and thanks for the "cheer up". Enjoy
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OK first off I love this program it works very smoothly, except for one thing, and I am sure this is a simple fix. I unzipped and copied everything to the root folder of my device. Started the application and it starts working, very cleanly I might ad. However the stylus function isn't working for me. I am sure it just has to do with the file of the wav, should I put these in any specific folder?
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Tell me more:
- Did the stylus-out/in sound EVER play?
- Did you change the original wav files?
- Is the phone's system volume (not the Ringer) loud enough to be heard?
Notes:
- The wav files (in.wav and out.wav) are supposed to be in the same directory as the program.
- The original wav files are subtle, they are meant to merely "hint" at you.
Glad that this app really works. Maybe in the next release you could add some settings so we can customize it as we wish. The only small problem that I encountered is that the phone doesn't turn back to loud mode when I flip it unless I push the wake button to turn the screen on. This can be annoying sometimes because I missed a call this way...
Good job on this app. It's really subtle but useful at the same time.
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Glad that this app really works. Maybe in the next release you could add some settings so we can customize it as we wish. The only small problem that I encountered is that the phone doesn't turn back to loud mode when I flip it unless I push the wake button to turn the screen on. This can be annoying sometimes because I missed a call this way...
Good job on this app. It's really subtle but useful at the same time.
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Thank you mate. I intend to create a settings screen altough that would be both cumbersome and useless for the current feature-set except for the stylus sounds.
I am thinking of adding a launcher to the stylus events, perhaps a new note would open on stylus-out, then save+close on stylus-in.. who knows, eh?
As for the missed call......LOL... I think that's just the point ...Seriously though, WM devices cannot survive the battery strain if they don't sleep (suspend). So, we do with what we got
Cheers
only issue i am having is.. I would prefer not to have the navi lights on all the time... whether the phone is face up or down my navi lights are always on
Short Review
ok soo far i tested the app and i have to say is this is a real good app, only problems im encountering is the vibration is very very faint, but i guess thats ur deal of conserve battery life? theres no problem to it and besides...speaking of battery life, leaving the NavLight on and messing around with the app for 5 mins straight didnt even take a percent off of my battery, ill try for a more deeper battery challenge but anyways, heres a list of suggestions, pros and cons, btw this app makes my TouchPro look 5000 times more cooler too something ive been wanting on this phone
PROS:
-Courtesy Sense seems to be very effective
-doesnt kill my battery much(yet)
-not a CPU Heavy app, still can run TP flawless
-Stylus Sense is responsive
-not a memory heavy app
CONS:
-Response of every "sense" is very slow, takes like 2 seconds to switch
-Courtesy Sense can sometimes be out of control, can possibly switch the volume off and on since i have my TP in my vertical case(but that can be fixable i guess)
-Cant close the app(if user decides to) but theres a way to close it through task manager(not HTC TM though)
-Backlights dont light up anymore if app is in use
-Cant unmute unless you switch the device on
Suggestions:
-Make a settings menu where u can adjust the poll speed and sensitivity and what Senses you can turn Off or On
-Should make the Stylus notification light blink every 15-30 seconds or 1 min at the most
-Also to add on the Notifications Sense is the famous blinking LED Light whenever you shake the device
-Close/Exit option onto the app
-When the device's volume is set on silent or vibrate, the Common Sense should be turned off until the device volume is set back to normal
-and probably something crazy, the Party Light Mode, where you can make the lights blink with noise or fade different paterns or blink with some random pattern just for FUN lol
Overall Score 9/10 and thats my honest opinion...this is a great app especially in Alpha stage
Video Review coming up this weekend, ill be posting a link soon, thnx for the great app
Video Review
here ya go everyone, a review video courtesy of me feel free to subscribe if you like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds2Brq8L_dY
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here ya go everyone, a review video courtesy of me feel free to subscribe if you like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds2Brq8L_dY
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Bro, let me thank you for a VERY groovy flick, I enjoyed every bit of both your written and video reviews.
I must praise you further for a great job at a thorough & constructive critique. Your stylish review and suggestions are valuable and are noted with all due enthusiasm. I will try my utmost to reflect what I can on my next attempt - the Beta. Also, I will contemplate creating this "feast of lights" you're craving as a token of gratitude for your effort
Cheers
Here's v1.0 ... fully customizable.
This seems to be unneeded around here, So... for the few who want it, y'all can download it from the Diamond Section - In the meantime, I'll be contemplating ways of making new versions unusable on the Raphael for the obvious unpopularity of this device, and equally evident lack of enthusiasm from those who have it
Cheers

WP7/Zune music player running on Nook Color

Followed the instructions from this link and I was able to download and install a Zune/WP7 style music player on my nook color. It's awesome!
Made my day!
http://www.stuff-review.com/2011-05/zune-and-windows-phone-7-styled-music-player-for-android/
[30 May 2011] Alpha 4 now out with widget and custom add to playlist!
Awesome thanks!
Will check this out.
Sent from my Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
NICE! Thank you much.
It'd be nice if it had an actual name and icon.
Like the article says...
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It'd be nice if it had an actual name and icon.
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"We did run into an occasional bug and forced closures but otherwise it’s quite functional, despite its alpha status".
A name and icon are in the works. Give it some time.
The app worked great...just looking forward to it's further development.
Ron
Yes I saw that, I was just stating.
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Followed the instructions from this link and I was able to download and install a Zune/WP7 style music player on my nook color. It's awesome!
Made my day!
http://www.stuff-review.com/2011-05/zune-and-windows-phone-7-styled-music-player-for-android/
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Here's the file I downloaded after following all the links. I guess its ok to post it.
If you're on Twitter, it's probably worth following the guy for updates. I did.
Same here, following dev on twitter.
As indicated above next alpha should include an icon.
probably not the right place, but I'll post my short blurb anyway.
like:
- clean uncluttered, only necessary information and buttons.
- fast, flipping between pages are nice.
- the typography
- how artist, album, etc is organized using alphabetical/large font is refreshing.
dislike (mostly related to smartphone to tablet screen scaling)
- I know this is for smartphone player, but when in "play mode" screen, the progress bar is only the size of small album cover. It's too small for practical use. Everything clumped together at bottom screen leaving huge empty space up top. (looks like something is wrong when there is no background image.) Maybe load a "default blank" image when there is no album image?
- bigger play/pause/next screen buttons? button size is too small for comfortable clicking for tablet. I think it's also mis-aligned. or at least the placement of buttons is spread out of context, not below the album cover in tablet screen. (maybe slice the screen into 4 quadrants, and fit all album/players controllers on bottom left corners)
- (setting is still blank. yeah I know work in progress)
- when inside "play screen", once getting out to browsing screen while playing, it's not possible to quickly get back to play screen without retracing path from song title. Also How about if I double/triple tap on the big image in play screen, It will bring me back to main browsing screen. How about scroll side to side? (play screen -- side swipe - browsing screen.)
- back button only bring me to previous screen. (so if I jump out of player, and back into play screen, if I hit back button, it will throw me out to external screen. and I have no way to get back to main browsing screen without relaunching the player.)
wish list ( I post one anyway.):
- button and font color option?
- in tablet, the super low rest/huge background image looks really blotchy for a lot of images. (for human face, it looks like somebody has bad skin disease or something. just ugly.) Can we have option, not downloading external images? force use internal default images.
- less aggressive use of wireless.
- equalizer
- widget
- playlist creation (I think it's still being build)
- a way to alter mp3 file label. (hey, not my music comes from stores. and a lot of my record label promo material has wrong labels. )
- I really liking this as a universal media file manager. How about video, ebook, "social" (as in libre.fm, last.fm, or whatever other social music), simple mp3 blog RSS.
Agreed with you bigbird.
Functionally my biggest issue is going back, especially when you are on a playlist you have to exit to get back.
An on screen back button + a way to get back to main screen quickly I think would be best.
Playlist creator
Scaling stuff could take longer to materialize but yes:
+ Bigger progress bar for Jumping/skipping song on + Bigger buttons
Why don't you send your recommendation to the developer via twitter?
I wish it did what Doubletwist does. If it's at the lockscreen, it shows the primary buttons and makes it click to unlock.
Alpha 3 just out and some of the issues above have already been dealt with. Back button from now playing screen, icon for the app, etc.
Download and what's new here: http://bit.ly/k0ZuU9
Instructions to install and screenshots here: http://www.stuff-review.com/2011-05/zune-and-windows-phone-7-styled-music-player-for-android/
Enjoy!!!
Good to see this is being worked on constantly.
how about the sound quality? Is it better than original music player?
Alexsandra said:
how about the sound quality? Is it better than original music player?
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I could be wrong but:
1. On the software side audio quality would depend primarily on the encoding quality, i.e. compression type, bps or lossless.
2. Then it would depend on your hardware, mainly the DAC chip inside your device.
3. Your earphones
I would guess on hardware (2) that the Zune since it's a dedicated MP would have a better DAC and audio line path. On the other two it should be the same.
Is anyone else getting audio dropouts on CM7 (beta nightly)
Love everything about this app, but seem to have some audio dropouts and pauses during playback.. Using the beta CM7 build with Dalingrinators OC.
PS. im using DSP to boost volume via eq settings.
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Love everything about this app, but seem to have some audio dropouts and pauses during playback.. Using the beta CM7 build with Dalingrinators OC.
PS. im using DSP to boost volume via eq settings.
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I've noticed a couple of tiny pauses at the start of tracks but nothing too distracting. I'm loving the app though (the Zune interface is simply one of the best I've come across) and it complements Launcher 7 perfectly.
Sent from my NookColor using XDA Premium App
I know many of you out there have been waiting for a widget for this, myself included.
The developer has just posted this as a preview for the upcoming next release.

Things I don't like about the Mate 10. What's yours?

1. The volume button and power button are too close together. The amount of times I went to reach the power button to turn off the display and accidentally took a screenshot by pressing power and volume down together.
2. The back is way too slippery. If the phone is on my bed and and leaning on the mattress slightly, the phone moves. Even just tapping the screen to navigate makes the phone slowly move away. Have to keep putting the case back on.
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out.
4. Battery is good but not what I was expecting. Same as my Mate 9 battery life and yet I thought the Kirin 970 was 50% more efficient than the 960.
5. Wish camera had more slow motion speeds.
6. Persistent Android System notification but that's an Oreo thing and not a Huawei thing.
Having said all that I love this phone and it's the best phone I ever had.
Only had mine two days so more annoyances will probably come to light.
Agree about the power/volume button positioning.
Also since I've got a glass screen protector on it, it's a bit harder to access the sensor (have to press down into it) which is a bit annoying since it's my main means of navigating back and home as well as unlocking.
Infact the same sensor/button being used for both back (short press) and home (long press) is also awkward as I frequently do one when I mean to do the other.
Finally, it seems a bit complicated seemingly with multiple apps and settings for the same thing (though I am coming from Windows Mobile which might seem simpler as it didn't have many apps)
Agree great phone though (probably my best ever also)
I just got my mate 10 (alp-l29,black,4gb) from UAE.
1. Inability to theme notification/quick toggle area - stays black no matter what theme you apply. Looks out of place considering all notifications except spotify are light/white themed.
2.home button with 3 functions is not as easy to manage as I thought, but I will have to get used to it, since i aint giving away screen real estate and use on screen buttons on this monster.
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
Otherwise I love this phone. Its fast, lag free. Kinda fat, but in combo with the weight, I like how it sits in my hand.
For the first time I quible only about thickness. Anything over 8mm feels a little thick...
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3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out..
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Well to update my post, I just tried with a very thin pair of unlined black leather gloves I own and in fact the sensor button DOES work while gloved. So I can press it to go back and forth and navigate as usual. It does not work with fingerprint recognition apps/phone unlocking of course, but once you are in, they do work.
FYI they are a UK brand: Dents Extra Soft 3000 silk lined gloves but I ripped out the silk lining to make them unlined and for more flexibility and thinness and to work with the sensor. ?
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3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
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UPDATE.
I found a solution to this issue where none of the combinations of View Mode and Text Size settings give you ideally looking system, meaning not too large or not too tiny. At default everything looks to large IMO and they should done better on qhd 6.0” screen. If not by default, view mode needs 5 not 3 steps.
So far the best I got is with this combo of settings:
1. View Mode and Text Size at Small;
2. Dpi @392 (under Developer Settings).
With this settings I believe the text size and viewing area is appropriate for qhd 6” screen.
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action, sometimes it ends up detecting my swipe as a tap, and going back accidentally
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
otonieru said:
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action,
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
snachez said:
I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
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Well that might be true if we are on home page,
But if we are still using an app, swiping up will only do scrolling :silly: , and the point of getting into recent screen is of course, for switching between app
Also,
I kinda expect by this time, huawei would already implement off screen gesture. At least for skipping song,
I mount my phone on my car center dash often, using maps and streaming spotify,
Without off screen gesture, its too troublesome, since i need to reach the phone while driving (not to mention its dangerous)
Because of this, now most of that job done by my Meizu Pro 7
They already implement "Knock & Draw" feature to launch app, so i dont see why they still cant get offscreen gesture
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Don't need that for Mate 10. Its one tap on fp to wake.
Hi. I don'l line che "twin app" that is no wotking with other launchers and there isn't a toggle to manage the duble sim (favorite ecc..)
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
windozeanti said:
Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
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I thought data limit is still there? In mobile data setting.
Or are we talking about different thing ?
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
Shady282 said:
- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
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The camera definitely isn't bad. But hasn't given me that wow factor. Especially in low light. Like I said I think after a couple software updates things will improve slot. No doubt the battery is good but could be better considering the Battery size
I've switched from One Plus 2 to Mate 10 and I think the Mate 10 could use some gestures,like hold home button to lock the phone etc. Right now, it's just pressing the power button to lock the phone. Bugs me.
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro. Besides, another thing that irks me is the fact that we can't mute the shutter sound in 3rd party apps even when you're in silent mode. Like if my phone is in silent mode and I want to send a pic using the whatsapp camera, i can't disable the sound.
focacciabread said:
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro.
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That's because the Mate 10 Pro has an OLED screen and white backgrounds consume more power, so they give you the option to use black backgrounds to save power. The standard Mate 10 has an LCD screen and white backgrounds be are not an issue.
The always on display which doesn't display any useful notifications is quite annoying.

Question Rear display

In the leaked videos, the user was able to show the homescreen with icons on the rear display. Was that any early MIUI version option only?
In the current firmware, it's not possible... Laybe later?
Anyway, I don't see myself using an app on it, it's really small for that, + it'd require UI changes from the devs...
furious.builder said:
In the current firmware, it's not possible... Laybe later?
Anyway, I don't see myself using an app on it, it's really small for that, + it'd require UI changes from the devs...
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I would like to use it to answer with speaker or decline calls. Also use it for quick responses to text.
I have noticed I can skip songs on the Spotify playlist when it's playing by accidentally touching the rear display
( I haven't found anything useful to do with it yet tbh and I hope they improve the functionality of it )
Ohh nice! As of now it's pretty early, I'm sure they'll add those little things during updates
xreactx said:
In the leaked videos, the user was able to show the homescreen with icons on the rear display. Was that any early MIUI version option only?
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I haven't found any way to enable that home screen in rear panel but I haven't been trying either tbh
I don't think I'm getting the red notification light on the rear display either like it shows in the Xiaomi presentation vids but maybe I just need to enable it somehow
I usually don't set my phone's with the screen facing downwards on tables anyway so it's got limited usefulness to me anyway whether it works or not
speedtripler said:
I haven't found any way to enable that home screen in rear panel but I haven't been trying either tbh
I don't think I'm getting the red notification light on the rear display either like it shows in the Xiaomi presentation vids but maybe I just need to enable it somehow
I usually don't set my phone's with the screen facing downwards on tables anyway so it's got limited usefulness to me anyway whether it works or not
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The latest update to the 'Rear Display' app breaks the red notification indicator as far as I can tell.
But to enable it/change appearance
go to settings>special features>rear display.
dj_aj said:
The latest update to the 'Rear Display' app breaks the red notification indicator as far as I can tell.
But to enable it/change appearance
go to settings>special features>rear display.
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I'm on the EU 12.5.3 and I like it but I think I have no red light flashing on the back screen for notifications although it is enabled in the settings...
One of the issues is the rear screen can only stay on for 30 seconds max which maybe why people think the notification is not working properly ( because you would have to double tap to see it even if it is working properly)
And who likes to set their phone face down anyway? These screens are fragile and very expensive !
Honestly think they just had a screenshot of their home screen and made it the image I never actually seen anyone able to use the mini screen
Yeah they haven't ironed the kinks out pertaining to the rear display.
Out of the box, I had the red led indicator show up although it would be there even when I had no notifications.
I like it as a novelty feature but they really need to address the functionality bit.

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