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[Q] General rooting questions.

Hello, i just got my first smartphone, i have AT&T and i didnt want an iphone and was more drawn toward andriod, so i got a captivate. I would really like to do alot of the things in the "Pimp my captivate" guide but i have some questions first.
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
Ill admit i'm an andriod phone hacking noob, but i do know computers well and programming and have altered other devices in the past.

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I would like to know this as well.

stihl29 said:
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
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Since no updates have come down yet, I don't think anyone is sure of the answer to this. Keep in mind that it's a good idea to make backups of the app APKs on your sdcard before you remove them (just in case you want to reinstall them).
stihl29 said:
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
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Removing AT&T's crappy apps won't affect the phone negatively at all. They simply won't be there, so you can't use them (if you find them useful). The only app that I can think of you may want to keep is the AT&T Hot Spots app so you phone can use free AT&T wifi at locations such as Starbucks.

Yes, you will still get updates as long as you do not install a custom ROM. (Rooting is ok).
The only functionality that will be removed will be that of the apps you delete

Thank you so much this clears up alot of the things I've been wondering.
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Rooting issues
I have tried everything I have found online. The superuser icon is there. I have downloaded several apps that require the device to be rooted. I turned on usb debugging, and turned it off. I've downloaded update.zip several times.
I'm not entirely a noob when it comes to tweaking phones. I flashed roms on windows mobile and performed all sorts of modifications I got off this site.
I have the superuser icon. I downloaded titanium. Titanium says it installed busybox. I downloaded the separate busybox app from the market. That app has a popup saying that a nand unlock is necessary for the app to work. When I run it in spite of the popup, it says the device is rooted, but can't find busybox. A whoami command in adb will indicate that I'm not. I went though adb to reinstall busybox. But whenever I try to run any significant commands (eg su) it gives me a permission denied error. Googling permission denied gives me a myraid of possible causes, but it seems I'm getting far afield. I just want to get rid of the bloatware for now.
Is there another program to root this thing? Did I just miss something incredibly obvious?

hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache

kamots said:
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
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You shouldn't ever need to unless you are installing a ROM that requires it. the Dalvik Cache is the Java VM that Android Runs on and it does a very good job of keeping itself cleared. It does lots of Garbage collection on its own.

gotcha! thank you

[Q] z4root?

Just noticed the app z4root in the Market. It claims one-click rooting and unrooting of various devices, among them the Galaxy S. Search of the Galaxy Tab boards didn't turn up anything. Is this safe and recommended for the Tab?

Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.

Thanks, I was too timid to try it without someone confirming it first.
I can now also confirm that it works fine. Went very smoothly, took about 1 minute and a reboot.

It seems like such an odd way to root for me. My first experience of rooting was a HTC Legend. I had to downgrade the software (one complete wipe and flashing of firmware) and then flash a rooted update. And I still don't have proper write access to the /system partition. It took about half an hour to root the Legend, this took 2 minutes, and I didn't loose any data. Awesome!

Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?

Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.

Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.

Rapax said:
My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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It's the only reason I rooted this thing.

Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)

Router thanks. Good informations.
I would like to root my SGT because I need CIFS access to my network share directories, in my Windows network. I found some prgs in the Market, but they need 'root rights'. So here I am. I will use this root app.
A question for you (you seem experienced) about the correct procedure to reinstall apps already installed after a root procedure:
1. Do an AppBrain Syncronize
2. Launch Root (Z4root)
3. Install the AppBrain app again and then connect to my AppBrain account to 'restore' apps?
Is it correct my idea?

that is correct, its not like the root we do when rooting and android phone like my evo, you can actuall run the z4root the run and install that program

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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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...and Droid Wall, to prevent applications from accessing the web "unnecessarily"

that was easy and painless. nice, full root

I've found that I loose root occasionally, any idea why?
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Seems to work.
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Router said:
from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)
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Well, for starters I'd like to get rid of the very annoying vodafone booting / shutting down images.
If I could also remove some pre-installed apps, that'd be nice too ^^

recovery
Does this root give a recovery image?

kevinniven said:
Does this root give a recovery image?
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No. As far as I'm aware we don't have a recovery image.
Swyped from my Galaxy Tab

sts_fin said:
Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.
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When you ran OCLF, what was the amount of RAM you selected, I think by default it shows somewhere around 846 odd..

Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.

[Q] New Roots...

So I rooted my Froyo Captivate today, I've never rooted a smartphone before, and I'm loving it. I got rid of all the AT&T garbage and to my surprise my phone actually seems somewhat snappier. I'm looking forward to using tethering and side-loading apps, but I have a newbie question about root access on the phone. Normally under Windows and Linux a user would not want to stay rooted all the time. Is that different on Android? Is it ok to just stay rooted all day long? So far what I've done is use Super One Click to root, installed Titanium Backup, removed the crap from AT&T, then unrooted the phone. Everything seems to be working beautifully except that Ti needs root.
How does everyone else handle this? Just root when you need to use Ti or some other app? I also deactivated the Market filter AT&T put on, so does that stick when not in root?
Thanks for the feedback.

You can stay rooted. Anything that needs root permissions will ask for it when it needs it.
The differance being that you don't have to open up a terminal and type su blah blah. You just hit ok when asked. OR NOT
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leave root access there. it doesnt mean you are running everything as root

[Q] Good for Enterprise on custom Android ROMs

Has anyone had a problem with the intial setup for Good for Enterprise on custom Android ROMs? I installed it (using an issued PIN) on stock eclair on my Captivate and it worked fine. I then rooted, backed it up via TIBU and restored on Froyo and it still worked fine. The same process worked recently on Gingerbread. However, I have tried multiple custom Froyo ROMs and 1 GB recently and if I try the initial setup (with a new PIN) on anything other than stock eclair (even rooted), it will stop at "retrieving policies" and never complete. I then have to ask for a new PIN from my IT support and revert to eclair and finish the setup, backup, and restore on the later custom ROMs. Has anyone seen this and have any idea why? My IT support has no idea. I am not in a policy checking for root access and it does continue to work with root.
EDIT: I wonder if it is that the device name used in build properties is referenced during that step and it fails due to an unknown device...
Also, I have found that after I have it working after a certain PIN used, if I ever restore to an ealier point (due to a theme gone wrong, etc) then it stops syncing even if the restore point is AFTER I had it working with that PIN. It seems like the local software either is exchanging a dynamic password with the server or there is a message index, etc that has to be in sync. Any thoughts?

When in the Good setup screen, go to Menu>Device Info. Does the Phone number appear? I've been using CM7 just fine with Good but after the last few nightlies, Good no longer works. The phone number doesn't appear in the device info. Good thinks there is no phone network present.

I am a heavy Good user, unfortunately also addicted to changing ROMs on a frequent basis. I have never had an issue with Good running on any ROM, just on restoring from TiBu. I can flash new kernels, themes, etc, and Good works just fine. If I re-flash the same ROM, it resides and works just fine. It is only when flashing a new ROM I have problems. Good appears to restore OK, but won't pull new emails to the inbox. I ave to get a new PIN and re-install.

Same here.. i am addicted to flashing as well.
I tried Titanium backup to backup and restore to new ROM, but somehow Good just keep crashing after i put in my password.
I am sure I can ask for new pin, reinstall and what not.. but how often can we ask IT people (for my company at least) for new pins, until one day they may say, bugger off you ROM addict!

Finally figured it out, I think. The trick is to NOT have Good running in persistent mode when you do the backup with TiBu. IOW, reboot and backup with TiBu before you start Good and log in. I did that the last couple of new ROMs and it restored and worked just fine.
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GOOD for Enterprise on Imito AM801 Tablet
I am also getting the Phone network is off. This is a tablet and does not have any phone piece or sim card installed. No hardware is even inside the tablet. Has anyone ran accross this issue on tablets?

This works for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35263313#post35263313

Good with custom roms
Just to share a recent experience on that topic:
I wanted to have a custom rom but need GFE for my work which of course has a policy of no root with GFE.
So after a little research and useful info from this forum I figured a very simple way to do it, as long as you don't consider root as critical for your day-to-day stuff
1. Install your custom rom which most likely requires rooting
2. Install SuperSU from the Play Store and use it to remove root completely
3. Install and activate GFE
That's it!
Hoope this helps someone else how got a little scared to have to go through scripts and stuff to do this
Using a Galaxy S4 with Carbon Rom

Anteus20 said:
Just to share a recent experience on that topic:
I wanted to have a custom rom but need GFE for my work which of course has a policy of no root with GFE.
So after a little research and useful info from this forum I figured a very simple way to do it, as long as you don't consider root as critical for your day-to-day stuff
1. Install your custom rom which most likely requires rooting
2. Install SuperSU from the Play Store and use it to remove root completely
3. Install and activate GFE
That's it!
Hoope this helps someone else how got a little scared to have to go through scripts and stuff to do this
Using a Galaxy S4 with Carbon Rom
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Does this still work?
I too need GFE on my Galaxy S4 but am sick of the poor battery life. I tried SlimKat and Google Play Edition roms, and removed root using Super SU in both cases. But GFE gives a message "Not supported for this type of Handheld". . Not sure if GFE is looking for a TW based ROM.
I will give it another go using Carbon ROM. Still, any other advice / experience on getting GFE working on a custom ROM would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

joshic75 said:
Does this still work?
I too need GFE on my Galaxy S4 but am sick of the poor battery life. I tried SlimKat and Google Play Edition roms, and removed root using Super SU in both cases. But GFE gives a message "Not supported for this type of Handheld". . Not sure if GFE is looking for a TW based ROM.
I will give it another go using Carbon ROM. Still, any other advice / experience on getting GFE working on a custom ROM would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
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You quoted a 1 year old post, might be hard to get a reply. Also this is for the S1, while the app (GFE) might be the same, the ROMs definitely aren't.
That being said, chances are that the app was updated to prevent that workaround. You could flash a TW based ROM and test it though.

Thanks for the reply. I will try posting a fresh question in the Q&A thread in case anyone has more recent experience with GFE. Cheers.

joshic75 said:
Thanks for the reply. I will try posting a fresh question in the Q&A thread in case anyone has more recent experience with GFE. Cheers.
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There is an xposed module for this.

Hi, are you referring to Wanam Xposed which has a "fake official system status" functionality?
As I understand, Xposed needs root, but Good for enterprise doesn't work on a rooted handset. Can Xposed work without root?
Also Wanam Xposed is meant to work with TW based ROMs whereas I don't want to go back to TW based ROM unless it is extremely light.

joshic75 said:
Hi, are you referring to Wanam Xposed which has a "fake official system status" functionality?
As I understand, Xposed needs root, but Good for enterprise doesn't work on a rooted handset. Can Xposed work without root?
Also Wanam Xposed is meant to work with TW based ROMs whereas I don't want to go back to TW based ROM unless it is extremely light.
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I'm a bit confused here, Custom ROMs are pre-rooted. Therefor, if you're not on TW, you're rooted.
And yes, Xposed does require root. As for Wanam, I duno if it works on AOSP but best way to know is you try

Thanks for replying.
Supersu has a Full Unroot functionality which removes root.
Yes I will try, but every failed attempt sends an email to office admin so I have to be prudent.
http://www.gogadgetx.com/xposed-framework-install-use-best-modules-list/
The link above mentions that root is required while installing XPosed, but later it can perform without root. Is this correct or not?

joshic75 said:
Thanks for replying.
Supersu has a Full Unroot functionality which removes root.
Yes I will try, but every failed attempt sends an email to office admin so I have to be prudent.
http://www.gogadgetx.com/xposed-framework-install-use-best-modules-list/
The link above mentions that root is required while installing XPosed, but later it can perform without root. Is this correct or not?
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I have never personally tried it without root but you can test that fairly easily. I expect it would depend on the module you're using, some require more permissions than others.

I tried it out but it didn't work.
I have to go back to stock ROM

[Q] Rogers S5 Active UNLOCKED

Ok I've got my Rogers Samsung S5 Active unlocked, and confirmed by Root Checker and I've installed SuperSU Pro.
I rooted it via this particular method I read at
theunlockr
It reboots and functions as normal, however when I attempt to utilize SuperSU it says that KNOX is installed, it then allows me to dissable which I do and it remarks successful.
What I want to know is what do I do to remove ROGERS craptastic apps, and keep them off, what do I use to get in and modify some of the parameters of the phone, like CPU speed and so forth?
If there are any decent fully working ROM's for a newbie like myself, I'd be happy to throw a go at using one.
Any help with getting the absolute MOST from my device would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading
RW

Go to the play store and search for root. You'll find a lot of apps for tweaking the S5. You have many choices for a ROM because you have an unlocked bootloader. I think you can use the latest AOSP or Cyanogen mod, or if you want to set up safestrap your can run the Dynamic Kat ROM found here. That ROM has an assistant app that lets you tweak a whole lot of things all from the app.