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Hi Guys,
After what is turning out to be a farce with my Desire HD order (Long Long Wait!) and the eMMC chip ruining (for now? seems a very tight system!) my hopes of flashing it to oblivion with modded ROMS/Kernels/Hacks, a huge selling point for me, I'm considering the HD7. I'm well aware of its shortcomings and I know that overall it cannot really compete with a mature Android OS on the DHD, however I am intrigued by the UI and future prospects, especially with MS pledging a $1Billion warchest to market and attract development for WP7. I can live without having a million apps in the Marketplace, however I wanted to know from an owner what the opening portfolio is like. The main apps i'm interested in are News, Livescores, EReaders and anything cutting edge like Augmented Reality apps like Goggles and Layar. I'm also wondering what the proportion of Free to Paid apps is like. Any help would be appreciated.
Regards.

If you download zune 4.7 you can see it for your self ( ok not on the phone ) .

Finally upgrading to Windows Phone 7, need suggestions

Ok so Im sure this will be moved but I wanted my fellow TP 2 owners advice on what would be a good upgrade for moving to an at&t windows phone 7.
I have done some research and believe that the LG Quantum is more to my liking than the HTC Surround or Samsung focus for various reasons starting with the keyboard. I have also found that it offers tethering as well as voice to text which seems to be a cool feature. I have actually held the phone in my hands yesterday and compared to the other wp 7 at&t phones. It will no doubt be a bit different than what Im used to but nevertheless I do like the idea of having the latest and greatest hw and sw.
I am curious if these phones will support Tomtom as I use it all the time. I know that it will have to be jailbroken to load future custom roms but I think I can be patient.
I guess I am just wondering if Im missing something so if you all have any insight I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.

swtaltima said:
Ok so Im sure this will be moved but I wanted my fellow TP 2 owners advice on what would be a good upgrade for moving to an at&t windows phone 7.
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If this post is moved, it would be because this has absolutely nothing to do with ROM development.
LG phones have been pretty underwhelming in the past. But I haven't seen the Quantum in person, myself. WP7 has already been jail broken, apparently. But the mod community has not traditionally been all that excited about making custom ROMs for LG devices, if I'm not mistaken. Although the scope of this site has been expanding quite a bit recently.

swtaltima said:
Ok so Im sure this will be moved but I wanted my fellow TP 2 owners advice on what would be a good upgrade for moving to an at&t windows phone 7.
I have done some research and believe that the LG Quantum is more to my liking than the HTC Surround or Samsung focus for various reasons starting with the keyboard. I have also found that it offers tethering as well as voice to text which seems to be a cool feature. I have actually held the phone in my hands yesterday and compared to the other wp 7 at&t phones. It will no doubt be a bit different than what Im used to but nevertheless I do like the idea of having the latest and greatest hw and sw.
I am curious if these phones will support Tomtom as I use it all the time. I know that it will have to be jailbroken to load future custom roms but I think I can be patient.
I guess I am just wondering if Im missing something so if you all have any insight I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.
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TomTom will not work on WP7 nor will any other progam for windows mobile. WP7 is totally different and for now has a limited amount of programs and it will probably be awhile before we see third apps like we do for WM6.5. I think they are tryin to make it a closed platform like IPHONE and Android where most the apps will be endorsed by and distributed by Microsoft. I am not sure if there is a version of TomTom yet for WP7 but the one u have now will not run on WP7.

porkenhimer said:
I think they are tryin to make it a closed platform like IPHONE and Android where most the apps will be endorsed by and distributed by Microsoft.
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Android is fully capable of sideloading applications from sources other than the Android Market, including user made apps, beta software, etc. AT&T is the only carrier that has locked down the ability to sideload on their Android phones. Plus, Google is pretty open to what software they will allow on the Market, unlike Apple.

redpoint73 said:
Android is fully capable of sideloading applications from sources other than the Android Market, including user made apps, beta software, etc. AT&T is the only carrier that has locked down the ability to sideload on their Android phones. Plus, Google is pretty open to what software they will allow on the Market, unlike Apple.
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i never said u couldn't get third party apps i said that android and iphone want all apps to be endorsed and distributed by them. meaning if someone makes an app they want that app to be cleared for sale or download by them on their market. apple and google only make money off of paid apps if they distribute them and the maker of the app will make more money if their app is distibuted by apple or google cause the apps will all be in one place and easier to find which means they will have a better chance of selling. Microsoft wants to do the same thing by putting the majority of the WP7 apps in one place. the reason they even want free apps is cause the longer u look for apps on their stores the greater chance is you will click on an advertisment which pays them a few cents each time someone click on it. thats how all these companies make money. youtube is the worst but maybe the smartest cause they even put advertisments in their clips. they'll do anything to make a few cents but a cut of the money goes to the person who owns the video too. that is enough to make people wanna put their product on these sites and let them distribute it, money.

porkenhimer said:
i never said u couldn't get third party apps i said that android and iphone want all apps to be endorsed and distributed by them. meaning if someone makes an app they want that app to be cleared for sale or download by them on their market.
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Putting Android and iPhone in the same category as "closed" is an injustice to Android, and not accurate. Yes, Google would "like" for apps to be endorsed by them, and to make money off of them, but they aren't forcing it like Apple is. There is plenty of 3rd party software available, and incredibly simple to install on Android. iPhone has to be jailbroken/hacked in order to do so. And Apple even tried to make it illegal to jailbreak the iPhone, to prevent loading of apps from sources other then their app store.
There are plenty of Android app stores like Handango and Handmark, which Google has completely allowed separate from their own market. Major developers like Gameloft have started their own Android app stores, instead of using the Android Market, and now its rumored that Amazon will also have their own Android app store. To say that Google is limiting the distribution of Android apps in any way is simply not correct.

HTC 7 Mozart
Hi
I have just upgraded from the TP2 to the HTC 7 Mozart. I am happy with the phone. It seems to work very well. As stated WM 6.5 software isn't transferrable and there are very few options for full navigation software at the moment.
I found the software keyboard very easy to use in landscape and certainly much better than anything I had on WM 6.5. I think that WP7, as an OS, has a very good way of recognising the difference between different type of gestures and it seems to "know" when you've made a mistake typing and corrects almost all mistakes automatically.
I still use my TP2 for work, so I will just leave it in the car for Sat Nav purposes.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

RIM PlayBook Will Support Android Apps

As we tweeted earlier today: Although we have heard this rumor before, we are actually surprised (in a good way) that RIM has confirmed that its upcoming PlayBook will support Android Apps. This is a both a win and a loss for RIM. Its a win because consumers can access the 200,000+ Android apps. The PlayBook will be a strong challenger to Motorola's Xoom for the non-iPad tablet crown. On the other hand, it is a loss because RIM may feel that its own apps (25,000+ Blackberry Java) are not strong enough to compete with Android or Apple's iOS AppStore.
"RIM will launch two optional "app players" that provide an application run-time environment for BlackBerry Java(R) apps and Android v2.3 apps. These new app players will allow users to download BlackBerry Java apps and Android apps from BlackBerry App World and run them on their BlackBerry PlayBook."
Consumers will download the app players from BlackBerry App World which will then be placed in a secure "sandbox" where the BlackBerry Java or Android apps can be run.
The only downside is that the new app players will not be available until this summer. However, this feature makes the PlayBook more attractive.
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TabletConnect said:
As we tweeted earlier today: Although we have heard this rumor before, we are actually surprised (in a good way) that RIM has confirmed that its upcoming PlayBook will support Android Apps. This is a both a win and a loss for RIM. Its a win because consumers can access the 200,000+ Android apps. The PlayBook will be a strong challenger to Motorola's Xoom for the non-iPad tablet crown. On the other hand, it is a loss because RIM may feel that its own apps (25,000+ Blackberry Java) are not strong enough to compete with Android or Apple's iOS AppStore.
"RIM will launch two optional "app players" that provide an application run-time environment for BlackBerry Java(R) apps and Android v2.3 apps. These new app players will allow users to download BlackBerry Java apps and Android apps from BlackBerry App World and run them on their BlackBerry PlayBook."
Consumers will download the app players from BlackBerry App World which will then be placed in a secure "sandbox" where the BlackBerry Java or Android apps can be run.
The only downside is that the new app players will not be available until this summer. However, this feature makes the PlayBook more attractive.
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http://twitter.com/myzt/status/21301896997
I'll just leave this here.

So an unofficial version of Android Player was leaked today. Here's a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jIAp8VnC49E
It's running 2.3.3...
Here's my question: will it be possible to hack it/root it/whatever and install a custom ROM and be able to use full QNX and full Android in the Android Player?

[Q] General hd7/wp7 question

hi im thinking about getting a hd7 with windows phone 7 and being a ex android user am thinking of something different so got a few random questions that have probably been asked a few thousand times.
1. wp7 looks a bit plain in general lots of text etc, can any kind of a background be added by options or a dev firmware.
2. can normal aps be found e.g a full working facebook application with chat etc, or just its own built in offering
3. what would you prefer android or wp7
4. is this best on market or have i missed some newer ones (uk)
5. anything good you can do with wp7 worth telling me
thanks all who help its appreciated

any one with any advice on this handset or wp7 any help would be appreciated. im very stuck on it lol

1. Wait for the Mango update in the fall.
2. Full on Facebook app in the marketplace, although it doesn't have chat integration (yet). Mango will also integrate Facebook even moreso than it already is.
3. WP7, without question, although android can do things WP7 can't (yet)
4. HD7 is an OK phone, but you'll hear higher praises from the Samsung Focus and Omnia 7 owners. I've not gotten to toy with either of them so I do not know.
5. "Anything good?" The entire user experience. Lots of great apps like Kindle, USA today, tons of good quality games, both free and paid.
The whole thing is awesome. 25,000 apps and growing!

There is no official way to change the background. You can dev unlock your phone in order to change background colors and tile colors. Most big name apps are available now. I prefer WP7 for the stellar keyboard and common feeling of speed throughout the OS. Even Android dual-core phones can't compare to the pinch and zoom on Windows Phone. This attention to detail gives me hope for the platform to grow as well as iPhone and Android have. The Focus and HD7 are the best IMO, but you may want to wait for the new line of handsets to come out this Fall. The biggest difference about Windows Phone is the feel that significant effort was put into the look and feel of the OS. Everything feels part of the Metro design which I really enjoy. Some of the tools to tie all parts of the OS together like deep linking of apps look very promising.

Should I adopt WP for work?

Hello everyone,
I come to your forum with several questions regarding my work phone, which is due to an upgrade in a few weeks...
So, a little background...I adopted Android from it's release and am savvy to smartphones and their operating systems. Nonetheless I have always used a Blackberry for work purposes, due mainly to exceedingly good battery life and call quality.
I would appreciate your feedback on WP and it's handsets specifically.
e.g.
Is the call quality on WP generally very good, or does it depend upon the handset?
If I were to adopt WP, is Lumia the way to go?
What is the difference between a Lumia 920, 925 and 1020? (They seem very similar!)
Does WP offer apps which equate to:
-Google Maps
-Google Search
-Chrome
-LinkedIn
How is the WP OS on maximising battery life?
The company uses Office 365 which I know integrates excellently with WP, hence the interest. So I doubt there would be any issues with contacts, mail, calendar or reading/editing Office documents?
Can WP handle zips and PDFs too?
What other apps are great for business use on WP?
Most important of all, how is the keyboard? My Blackberry Curve 9320 is exceptional for e-mails, and likewise Android with SwiftKey is brilliant.
Can you install another keyboard?
Are there any recommended high quality slim black leather cases for the Lumia range to protect the screen? I like book flip cases mainly.
Which UK newspapers/business magazines (Economist? Telegraph?) have WP official apps?
I'm sure I have more questions...but I'll leave it there.
I appreciate any and all help from the community.