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I was thinking about picking up a legend but is it able to be overclocked? if so to what MHZ?
anyone? anyone at all?
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Not possible atm afaik. Maybe with kernel modding (if a developer begins todo that) but this will take time... why do you want to overclock? the Legend is fast enough. If OC comes to the Legend in the future no ones can answer..... if and when Froyo comes to Legend it will be much faster anyway!
how is the Legend? its coming to bell this month and I'm thinking about picking one up.
Its the best phone i have ever owned, unfortunately I came from the Magic scene to the Legend and the amount of development activity compared to the magic is tiny.
In fairness though, the phone comes with most if not all of the things that they are trying to hack and bring to the magic so I suppose it is not too bad!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679033
That is the universal overclock for the G1. It pulls your current kernel, adds a few overclock specific settings, and pushes it back. I believe that with a couple tweaks it could be made to work on this (changing clock values, etc). Legend has msm7227, a newer version of the msm7200a on the G1 so it should not be too hard to port this. If G1 is clockable to 690ish, then legend should make it past 850ish.
with the release of froyostone rom for the hd2 which is sense + 2.2 officially from htc, I believe it would be much easier to port sense to the captivate and completely remove touchwiz.
First your posting in the wrong captivate forum section...second the Android os isn't something that can be magically ported to XX device just because XXX device has it or its working on it, for starters the hd2 is a non native android device, which means its running an android port, with the help of a half working linux kernel, loaded with haret bootloader, android 2.2 is coming in September so just sit tight and be patient, or you can download CM6 vibrant source and port it over to the captivate(you would have to make the captivates kernel compatible with 2.2, meaning backporting/patching etc) which ever you like.
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Yeah it ought to be about as easy as loading OS X on a Commodore 64.
gunnyman said:
Yeah it ought to be about as easy as loading OS X on a Commodore 64.
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Well, maybe Steve can call Xerox for some help with that...
dressanderc said:
Well, maybe Steve can call Xerox for some help with that...
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gunnyman said:
Yeah it ought to be about as easy as loading OS X on a Commodore 64.
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Well, maybe Steve can call Xerox for some help with that...
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ROFL thats some good stuff guys.
who wants sense anyways, it's just a big shiney TURD!
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who wants sense anyways, it's just a big shiney TURD!
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+1
where's some good ol' fashioned AOSP when you need it?
*hint hint* DG *hint*
Personally, I cant wait till all manufacturers realize we don't want to be forced into sense, touch wiz etc.
Make it default if you have to, but provide an option to enjoy raw, unadulterated android!!!
I guess we wait and see what Gingerbread does about that.
To the OP, why don't YOU port Android 2.2 to the Captivate AND also port Sense??
Joking aside I am going to be cooking for the Captivate soon. I'm just waiting for Froyo so I can get my hands dirty with Android .
Maybe even a Sense port??
I've been working on porting sense to our the device for some weeks now but roms fail to boot, changing libs etc, got no clue of what else to try.
Sense is so deeply entangled into Android, kinda like trying to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 95, It is virtually impossible to get it working without all the kernel extensions HTC added to the OS.
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Sense is so deeply entangled into Android, kinda like trying to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 95, It is virtually impossible to get it working without all the kernel extensions HTC added to the OS.
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Just a historical footnote. Internet explorer was very easy to remove from windows 95. The original release of win95 didn't even include internet explorer. It was only available as part of the plus! Pack of addons. The SR1 release had IE v2 included but it could be easily deleted. It wasn't until IE 4 that active desktop became a part of the package and began making it difficult to seperate from the OS. IE 4 came sr2.5 but was an optional upgrade for most win95 instalations.
But i knew what you meant.
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Just a historical footnote. Internet explorer was very easy to remove from windows 95. The original release of win95 didn't even include internet explorer. It was only available as part of the plus! Pack of addons. The SR1 release had IE v2 included but it could be easily deleted. It wasn't until IE 4 that active desktop became a part of the package and began making it difficult to seperate from the OS. IE 4 came sr2.5 but was an optional upgrade for most win95 instalations.
But i knew what you meant.
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haha, I was literally going to add almost exactly this.
Sense seems only to be portable to devices that can run off of HTC-based ROMs. It seems to be much easier to remove it than to try and bring it over (I haven't heard of it being brought to a device that wasn't HTC based). The widgets haven't even been ported to the best of my knowledge to work on non-Sense launchers. And, as proven by our phones, they could have made Sense even MORE integrated considering removing touchwiz launcher causes massive force closes. Also, Sense is proprietary and cosed source, so we don't have any low-level access to remove the HTC restrictions (short of binary hacking, which I know nothing about and could indeed be wrong about)
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haha, I was literally going to add almost exactly this.
Sense seems only to be portable to devices that can run off of HTC-based ROMs. It seems to be much easier to remove it than to try and bring it over (I haven't heard of it being brought to a device that wasn't HTC based). The widgets haven't even been ported to the best of my knowledge to work on non-Sense launchers. And, as proven by our phones, they could have made Sense even MORE integrated considering removing touchwiz launcher causes massive force closes. Also, Sense is proprietary and cosed source, so we don't have any low-level access to remove the HTC restrictions (short of binary hacking, which I know nothing about and could indeed be wrong about)
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Well how the huck did they get Sense on the HD2?? It doesn't even come with android from factory! We need someone to shed a little more light in this. Maybe its because they use some Qualcomm specific images or something.
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I've been working on porting sense to our the device for some weeks now but roms fail to boot, changing libs etc, got no clue of what else to try.
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Well how the huck did they get Sense on the HD2?? It doesn't even come with android from factory! We need someone to shed a little more light in this. Maybe its because they use some Qualcomm specific images or something.
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notice how I said I can't see it being ported to a non-HTC device. The HD2 is indeed an HTC device and I believe the ROM that has Sense is one built off of an HTC ROM for another device. Much like how the Legend ROMs were able to be fairly easily/quickly ported to the Aria. In fact, many of the internals of the HD2 resemble a lot of the Android hardware produced by HTC (qualcomm snapdragon and all that good stuff I believe)... the difficulty of getting android on that device had nothing to do with the ROMs, but actually getting haret to boot a linux kernel properly.
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notice how I said I can't see it being ported to a non-HTC device. The HD2 is indeed an HTC device and I believe the ROM that has Sense is one built off of an HTC ROM for another device. Much like how the Legend ROMs were able to be fairly easily/quickly ported to the Aria. In fact, many of the internals of the HD2 resemble a lot of the Android hardware produced by HTC (qualcomm snapdragon and all that good stuff I believe)... the difficulty of getting android on that device had nothing to do with the ROMs, but actually getting haret to boot a linux kernel properly.
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Unless they ported the whole ROM and re used drivers, I don't quite understand how they got it to work.
They got Sense 2.5 working from The HD2 onto the Omnia II (winmo), so its quite possible. We just need a team of developers willing to do the work. I can offer hosting and testing and little technical help since I am new at Android but I think we can get it to work if we start to tinker with it.
Maybe a ROM port is in order?
Maybe we should wait for a Froyo kernel though.
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Unless they ported the whole ROM and re used drivers, I don't quite understand how they got it to work.
They got Sense 2.5 working from The HD2 onto the Omnia II (winmo), so its quite possible. We just need a team of developers willing to do the work. I can offer hosting and testing and little technical help since I am new at Android but I think we can get it to work if we start to tinker with it.
Maybe a ROM port is in order?
Maybe we should wait for a Froyo kernel though.
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I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it hasn't been done. There are (correct me if I'm wrong) absolutely no non-HTC android devices with the Sense UI. I know nothing about the HD2/Omnia II Sense port, but that's WinMo... not even remotely close to Android in terms of interoperability. I also feel like any ROMs designed to bring Sense UI to non-HTC android devices would be hit with C&D's since it's their proprietary software (hence why both Fancy Widget and Beautiful Widgets got in trouble originally when they launched on the market).
Don't get me wrong, good luck in porting it, hell even I like the look of it and would love the option, but considering how long Sense has been out for android (and numerous devices) and we don't see it on any non-HTC android devices, I have to believe it's been tried and just doesn't work (which is why you also don't see MotoBLUR/NinjaBLUR anywhere else either... or even TouchWiz on the EVO)
Also I think the HD2 and the Desire are the same hardware. If not the Desire it's another phone. That also makes porting Android pretty painless.
Hey, I'm starting a think tank to see if we can get an HTC Sense port started for the Vibrant.
This would be very hard to do, considering the lack of drivers and such, but it might be possible.
considering how long it took and they still never could get it to work on the original droid....highly doubtful
I love it when people create think tanks but contribute nothing....it's just a hey, wouldn't it be cool if we do this? and belongs in General Chat
actually there was a succesful port to the droid but you are right there are multiple threads about sense and the chances of it happening are very slim. devs do what THEY want to do not what other people do.
igm503 said:
actually there was a succesful port to the droid but you are right there are multiple threads about sense and the chances of it happening are very slim. devs do what THEY want to do not what other people do.
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thought it was still really really buggy?
yeah let's think tank about what an atrocity it would be to bring that abomination over...
G1 was probably the most developed phone... and there were about 100 threads shooting down Sense on the G1... it requires so much work... that its pretty pointless.. especially concidering a good amount of the widgets have been recreated... etc etc
What about it requires so much work? As a person with no programming experience what so ever, I have trouble understanding why what seems like mostly a different interface has so much trouble running on hardware that is clearly powerful enough to run it.
Just an honest question.
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What about it requires so much work? As a person with no programming experience what so ever, I have trouble understanding why what seems like mostly a different interface has so much trouble running on hardware that is clearly powerful enough to run it.
Just an honest question.
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you need to port the entire senseui framework over, not just the widgets
For starters most of the phones that Sense has been ported to are HTC phones that come with out it, there are exceptions though, HTC, makes Sense so stands to reason it would be easier to port to an HTC phone, as the tools support them.
Second, unlike porting Opensource items and OS's to other phones, HTC Sense is proprietary and licensed only for HTC phones, so it is not a grey area of porting, it is just illegal to port it.
The Sense UI is more than just a "Home Replacement" like ADW , Launcher Pro and even TouchWiz, it really ties in a lot deeper with the OS.
good going to de-rail the noob...
i use launcher pro plus and a scene dock its not the same but close enough since lp pro widgets are close to sense widgets it works ok
Not to mention having to build a kernel that supports sense
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Hello guys.
I'm currently using HTC Legend and I'm pretty sure it's the best phone I ever had.
But yesterday I met HTC Desire HD. Design of this phone is poor, but... ROM is excellent! Sense 2.0, a bunch of new interesting and useful apps..
So, let's see pros & cons:
- We already have DHD Rom ported to Desire +;
- We have all drivers for legend, based on 2.1 (As I know, there are no 2.2 drivers shared on the internet) +;
- I think there will be a ****load of issues due to incompatible screen resolution on Legend -;
- Perfomance issues. 600mhz 384mb versus 1ghz and 512mb. -;
So... Maybe, it's time to start porting?
As far as I know the DHD ROM ported to Desire is not fully functional and still has issues. Having in mind that and the fact that the Desire is much more closer to DHD hardware-wise, I think it won't be possible to have the Sense 2.0 ROM ported for the Legend any time soon.
I have an access to Desire and I intalled DHD ROM on it about a week ago. It's pretty fast, the only one bug I found is not working camera.
Also, hardware does not make any sense, because there are drivers and, I'm sure, it's really easy to replace drivers in DHD ROM (As I said, we have Legend drivers).
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I have an access to Desire and I intalled DHD ROM on them about a week ago. It's pretty fast, the only one bug I found is not working camera.
Also, hardware does not make any sense, because there are drivers and, I'm sure, it's really easy to replace drivers in DHD ROM (As I said, we have Legend drivers).
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"Not working camera" is really serious issue I think! DHD and Desire both have ARM v7 CPUs, Legend has ARM v6 CPU... quite different architectures.
Oh wow... I forgot about cpus.
But... I can't believe it's so hard to port DHD ROM to legend -____- People porting Android 2.3 on WM6.5 device (HD2) now, even if it doesn't make any sense.
just hope it is possible...loved DHD Sense ROm on HD2.....
Maybe it's possible but I doubt if any of the skilled Legend devs will spend time on that...
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Oh wow... I forgot about cpus.
But... I can't believe it's so hard to port DHD ROM to legend -____- People porting Android 2.3 on WM6.5 device (HD2) now, even if it doesn't make any sense.
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Android 2.3 AOSP is open source, HTC Sense is closed source. That means you have to rebuild everything, especially the graphics and CPU.
hmmm...then 2.3 then..
The HTC Wildfire 2 has been spotted! Since it looks like having a 3.2 inch HGVA screen like our Legend, would it be possible to port this ROM to our Legends?
Here's the link: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/02/14/htc-wildfire-2-also-given-first-press-shot/
I know it hasn't even been officially announced yet, but does it seem plausible? I've always thought the reason we couldn't port HTC Sense 2.0 was because the Desire HD / Desire Z had a different resolution screen to the Legend? I know when the Legend came out its 2.1 ROM was ported to the Hero, so I wonder if this will be possible...
We'll only know if and when it is officially released though. Just a thought.
Sense 2.0 was buggy on the DHD I had one on release and a lot of the features worked only when they wanted to.
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The HTC Wildfire 2 has been spotted! Since it looks like having a 3.2 inch HGVA screen like our Legend, would it be possible to port this ROM to our Legends?
Here's the link: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/02/14/htc-wildfire-2-also-given-first-press-shot/
I know it hasn't even been officially announced yet, but does it seem plausible? I've always thought the reason we couldn't port HTC Sense 2.0 was because the Desire HD / Desire Z had a different resolution screen to the Legend? I know when the Legend came out its 2.1 ROM was ported to the Hero, so I wonder if this will be possible...
We'll only know if and when it is officially released though. Just a thought.
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I believe this would be possible. Just give us HVGA Sense 2.0 and watch!
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I believe this would be possible. Just give us HVGA Sense 2.0 and watch!
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In that case I hope a Wildfire 2 is released! The only issue I can think about is the potential lack of a trackball, but that didn't stop the DHD ROM being ported to the original Desire, so...
This is all speculation at the moment anyway until we find out tomorrow whether the Wildfire 2 is real or not at the MWC.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...brings-android-gingerbread-on-a-budget-928653
It's official! The specs look very similar to the Legend - 600mhz processor, same screen, etc.
Now we are waiting for leaked ROM. Maybe we will have 2.3 with Sense 2 soon...
Oh yess, it's comin. When will this new wildfire be released?
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Oh yess, it's comin. When will this new wildfire be released?
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Probably around April.
Someone has started another Wildfire S thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11373424#post11373424
This certainly are good news! Can't wait to run new sense on ginger legend
I wish that my dreams comes true...=)
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I've seen the new sense rom get ported to the nexus one, desire and more phones. i can't wait till i actually have the newest version of sense AND Gingerbread on my pretty little legend
I have an HTC Hero and one of my many questions is do you think Sprint and HTC will make a Hero 2 ... maybe with a 3.5" or lil bigger (not a monster sized phone) with either a good 1ghz processor or even a dual core and maybe keep the "track Ball" but lose all the other buttons make them all capacitive touch ..... thoughts or opinions ?
I do believe that the Hero has been very successful for both HTC and Sprint.
Ok back to me and My Hero I am not a developer and I am new to the rom switching game. I love the crisp look of the factory Sense UI, but I am one of those types that sees things differently. I look at things and say to myself how could we improve on this or how can we make it faster and keep it looking good. I found this website, and pretty much changed my Hero into a Super Hero so to say.
I also would like to say thanks to all of the great developers on the CDMA Hero side, so far I have tried almost every variety of rom and different mod on my Hero (have screenshots once I get out of the probation period I will post them)
So far I figured out the easiest way for me to root my hero is with one of two I found floating around these forums, Hero Root by regaw leinad or super1click v1.7 ..... I also figured out that firerat's mod is easier the data2ext if your nat really familiar with adb. I also have found three more programs to help a lot, droid explorer, android commander and qtadb.
My question to all Hero owners what do you think is the best all around ROM, Gapps, and other mods as of May 8th 2011? (I am just looking for opinions I read almost every thread on this site and I would just like to see it all together call me lazy)
All this and I have not "bricked" my Hero .... must be one tough s.o.b.
To answer your first question, I just don't see a revised Hero in the works. It has a been a great phone for many users and Sprint alike I'm sure, but the Hero is not likely to reappear simply because it doesn't really conform to what HTC is doing with most of their phones now (4-4.3 inches, capacitive buttons, similar super thin form factor). I definitely don't think they would put a trackball in, because even if there were a trackpad on a new device it's almost guaranteed to be optical. If there were to be a refresh, I definitely think we would have heard something by now considering the lifespan of the Hero.
As for roms, I'd definitely suggest playing around with AOSP or CM7 versions of Gingerbread. You may find that you prefer greater customizations than you get with Sense. However, if you really really dig Sense and would much rather have it, there's a great group of guys developing Sense 2.1 for Gingerbread on the Hero. It's in Alpha right now, but even considering that, it's a fantastic piece of work. As far as Gapps go, I would just stick to the latest ones provided at the Cyanogenmod wiki. I don't really apply other mods as I personally don't think I need any, but YMMV.
i for one love the design its the perfect size for me and as far as the processor goes once i overclocked it a little bit its plenty fast enough for me because i dont really install a ton of apps and as far as gaming goes i have a ps3 for that lol so it really is the perfect phone for me all the new ones are just to big i think.
and ive had the hero sense september and i had a mt3g before that.
OMGB
I have been running OMGB for the past 8 hrs I am using wifi only browsed the web for a while, cut grass listened to some MP3's and browsed the web some more and more MP3's I listened to MP3's for a couple hours (with the MIUI player found in the forums) and it shows pretty good battery life
I would also like to add that I am using the
opengles tweak to show supported version 1.1 (not 100% sure why I did it ... maybe just to say I did it successfully)
s0be's kernel AP5, unCoRrUpTeD data2ext V2.2, and the MIUI music player and camera apks
I like the bare minimalist look and feel this rom has, but I still dont have a true favorite .... variety is such a sweet thing and all these choices .... and most of the people I know dont even know what an HTC Hero is .... if its not a iLemon or if it doesnt say DROID (like in the commercials) they just dont "get it"
ok found the first flaw ..... lol
my market says verizon where i would normaly see Sprint and had my first FC
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ok found the first flaw ..... lol
my market says verizon where i would normaly see Sprint and had my first FC
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If you like the Sense UI Look, Checkout my "ExEnHeroC" Rom, the Links Below... (In my Signature)
It's a 2.2 Froyo Rom, and I know you said your kind a New to all the Rom/Rooting stuff so I'll let you know Before hand when a (GSM) Phones Ported to our (CDMA) Hero Not Everything Works!! But Most of the Important Everyday things Work! Check it out, See if you like it!
But for the Most Part its...
Faster, Smoother, and Filled with a Whole Lot More Goodies...
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I did checked it out and I liked a lot also .... it is silky smooth and I liked the main clock widget and how the status bar wasn't white ...
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If you like the Sense UI Look, Checkout my "ExEnHeroC" Rom, the Links Below... (In my Signature)
It's a 2.2 Froyo Rom, and I know you said your kind a New to all the Rom/Rooting stuff so I'll let you know Before hand when a (GSM) Phones Ported to our (CDMA) Hero Not Everything Works!! But Most of the Important Everyday things Work! Check it out, See if you like it!
But for the Most Part its...
Faster, Smoother, and Filled with a Whole Lot More Goodies...
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