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Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence about buying a Vibrant and I'd love some perspective from you guys, the dev community.
I saw the Vibrant, love the screen and overall performance...however, I'm concerned about the future (6-9) months out.
The device is supposed to get Froyo..but what about Gingerbread?
How is the dev-ability of this device? Might there be a custom ROM to 1) have Froyo before Samsung 'blesses us' with it...what about Gingerbread?
Thanks guys - I'm new to this scene and appreciate your perspective.
wrong section. this is not development.
phantasm714 said:
wrong section. this is not development.
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I'm confused...the breadcrumb at the top of the page says:
Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Android Development
where'd I go wrong?
techcraver said:
Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence about buying a Vibrant and I'd love some perspective from you guys, the dev community.
I saw the Vibrant, love the screen and overall performance...however, I'm concerned about the future (6-9) months out.
The device is supposed to get Froyo..but what about Gingerbread?
How is the dev-ability of this device? Might there be a custom ROM to 1) have Froyo before Samsung 'blesses us' with it...what about Gingerbread?
Thanks guys - I'm new to this scene and appreciate your perspective.
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for future posts like this, belongs better in the general section not the development secion... link below to general
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
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such an unhelpful post. If you don't plan on helping, don't bother wasting the time to make a post like this, the only thing it helps is your post count and that means jack..
techcraver said:
I'm confused...the breadcrumb at the top of the page says:
Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Android Development
where'd I go wrong?
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He means your question is not about development.
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He means your question is not about development.
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ok...part of it was. it was a Q to the devs about the potential to put ROMs on this device.
I read on an Android blog comment that even though the phone has been rooted, that drivers are not 'in the open' so therefore ROMs would not be possible. I'm wanting to fact-check this
rsfaze said:
for future posts like this, belongs better in the general section not the development secion... link below to general
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
such an unhelpful post. If you don't plan on helping, don't bother wasting the time to make a post like this, the only thing it helps is your post count and that means jack..
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boo hoo. so im not helping. it says RIGHT IN THE FIRST STICKY
"This is Development Section, not General.. Do NOT post questions here.. SEARCH the forum before posting a new thread"
sorry if im a LITTLE callous to people not reading and cluttering up dev.
techcraver said:
ok...part of it was. it was a Q to the devs about the potential to put ROMs on this device.
I read on an Android blog comment that even though the phone has been rooted, that drivers are not 'in the open' so therefore ROMs would not be possible. I'm wanting to fact-check this
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This is wrong. We will DEFINITELY see custom roms for this device.
I'm clapping my hands in joy and excitement
could custom ROMs include the possibility of Froyo, even before Samsung brings it 'officially'?
techcraver said:
I'm clapping my hands in joy and excitement
could custom ROMs include the possibility of Froyo, even before Samsung brings it 'officially'?
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No definitive answer to that, but more than likely. Almost every previous device has either received a custom unreleased or early leaked android build. No worries though, we won't be waiting long for an official 2.2 dump. FYI, this device will eventually get Gingerbread. Google has already reported that all devices running a 1ghz processor will receive Gingerbread. However, don't expect that until AT LEAST the end of the year, possibly later.
I would suspect that we will start seeing Froyo roms come out between the time Samsung releases the "official" froyo rom and T-Mobile pushing said rom to the handsets.
Rooting was available for me even before i purchased the phone. Now i found out, Cyanogen Mod 6 is on the works. I believe that is froyo. Also, Clockwork recovery is as well. I believe we are in good hands. Future looks good so far being the phone out in my hands only 5 days.
ok cool. I was holding back on buying a Vibrant because I don't want to plunk down $500 bones and then have this thing be obsolete when Gingerbread comes out.
I'm still wondering the "open source" status of the driver of Vibrant. Someone said it's closed thus may affect the custom ROM progress? Can anyone elaborate on this a little bit?
CM6 for vibrant is being actively developed right now, its in an alpha0 stage, and should be finished(within a week hopefully) as for Gingerbread, I have no clue whether we will get that working on the vibrant, dont know the requirements, but since the vibrant is the fastest handset currently available, im thinking gingerbread will happen. Also we have plenty of space, plenty of ram, and a 1ghz processor, we'll be seeing dual core handsets at the end of the year/early next year, until then im happy to be getting my vibrant tomorrow shipped to me by tmobile.
some french guy already got froyo working on the galaxy s, its being worked on and will happen.
I'm also very happy tmobile has a Equiptment installment plan for me, since ive been using the G1 since October 08, im very happy to upgrade to this device
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I would suspect that we will start seeing Froyo roms come out between the time Samsung releases the "official" froyo rom and T-Mobile pushing said rom to the handsets.
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Since CM6 is froyo, we'll definitely see that before we see the official froyo rom from samsung. It'll be stock android--just like the nexus one style of look-- but at least it's android 2.2.
Once froyo (touchwiz ui) from samsung is released, we will definitely get a lot of froyo ROMs from our community, or if you're still stock then you can get the official update
Min. requirement for gingerbread.
1 Ghz Processor
512 mb RAM
3.5" Screen
Anybody know exactly how many mb of RAM Galaxy S have?
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Anybody know exactly how many mb of RAM Galaxy S have?
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A simple Google search tells me 512...
So, do people get flamed for posting dev or theme stuff in the GENERAL section? Just pondering...
ryanolson7 said:
Since CM6 is froyo, we'll definitely see that before we see the official froyo rom from samsung. It'll be stock android--just like the nexus one style of look-- but at least it's android 2.2.
Once froyo (touchwiz ui) from samsung is released, we will definitely get a lot of froyo ROMs from our community, or if you're still stock then you can get the official update
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And where would the aforementioned CM6 be?
Thats the question.
I have been reading their forum and tweets... and all i see is Vibrant here, Vibrant there... nothing for i9000?
vibrant is i9000
unless you are refering to the USA version of vibrant which is SGH-T959
AllGamer said:
vibrant is i9000
unless you are refering to the USA version of vibrant which is SGH-T959
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I'm sure for the purposes of the forums people refer to the us model as the vibrant the european model as the i9000 and the canadian vibrant model as i9000m... I read that somewhere in one of the sticky's. Therefore assume he would be talking about the european i9000
The Vibrant isn't exactly the same as the international I9000 (and is, in fact, an SGH T959). However, they are both Galaxy S series phones, and are both GSM. They have far more similarities than differences.
Once CyanogenMod is available for the Vibrant, I have little doubt that it will be ported to the international i9000 and the Captivate, at least.
i mean the european GT-I9000
Cyanogen mod is coming, you can see them talking about it being ported on their forums now, and iirc the dev said that they are working on it.
If you know what you are doing you can even make your own version of it now (mind you its not fully functional and buggy)
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Cyanogen mod is coming, you can see them talking about it being ported on their forums now, and iirc the dev said that they are working on it.
If you know what you are doing you can even make your own version of it now (mind you its not fully functional and buggy)
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There was recently a tweet from one of the main devs working on Cyanogen for Galaxy S saying that his work was only for the Vibrant model... So perhaps international users have to wait longer for a port once the vibrant version is released
Yes, the international/European i9000 is what I was talking about. You won't be able to directly install the Vibrant CM6 ROM, but I don't think it will take much to port it. These phones are very similar indeed.
LevitateJay said:
There was recently a tweet from one of the main devs working on Cyanogen for Galaxy S saying that his work was only for the Vibrant model... So perhaps international users have to wait longer for a port once the vibrant version is released
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I imagine that this would be because that particular dev only has a Vibrant to work on, and so that is where he can best do his work for the time being. Since the cyanogen guys have to work across a lot of different phones and don't turn much of a profit, I wouldn't say it is unreasonable to see an individual dev only pick up one SGS varient.
However, the vibrant is DEEPLY similar to the euro SGS, and I can't see why a Vibrant ROM would be so dissimilar to a euro ROM as to require anything more than testing and tweaking.
Basically, don't worry. I bet ya a pound to a penny that they will put out a full set of SGS ROMs rather than doing it piecemeal.
Hi, im writing for a friend as he wants some advice.
he is choosing between both these smartphones (No others - as he can't afford newer ones, i.e - sgs2)
He is in a dilemna between the both.. he prefably wants a larger screen + better colours. but the desire s is newer, has a slightly better cpu etc.
Which one is better? Will the SGS get updated to gingerbread and beyond?
Which has better battery life in general? Is the SGS still a good phone even though it is 1 year old?
Thanks for responses!
This is a galaxy forum, so the answer from here is obvious! ;p
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slaphead20 said:
This is a galaxy forum, so the answer from here is obvious! ;p
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yeh, haha i thought that would be the response. but perhaps some honest ppl who have had a sgs for a while can give my friend feedback on it and how the device is, whther it is worth it or the desire s.
If you are into rooting and running custom roms, then the sgs for definate
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slaphead20 said:
If you are into rooting and running custom roms, then the sgs for definate
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thanks! But what if you are not for the average user... is the sgs good out of the box? personally my sgs 2 is good out of the box.. what about this? thanks!
Sgs is naff outa the box, laggy n crap, but v good once tweaked
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Galaxy S, of course
You can already flash gingerbread and there are lots of custom roms.
Using cm7, it's blazing fast and you can overclock it up to 1.5Ghz with some kernels (but most phones can only reach 1.4Ghz or 1.44Ghz stable, which is still a 40%+ overclock)
So if you wanted a better cpu... well the cpu is a real beast. And you can't beat that screen.
Imo if you're not afraid to flash, the galaxy S is just awesome.
btw, the battery of the desire s is a little bit smaller than the one on the galaxy s, but I don't know about the battery life.
But yeah, the desire s might be better out of the box, since without lagfix the galaxy s isn't all that great...
The only advantage the desire s has other than that is more RAM.
slaphead20 said:
Sgs is naff outa the box, laggy n crap, but v good once tweaked
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thanks, what exactly is wrong with it out the box? i used a lot at stores and don't find this problem...?
koflem said:
Galaxy S, of course
You can already flash gingerbread and there are lots of custom roms.
Using cm7, it's blazing fast and you can overclock it up to 1.5Ghz with some kernels (but most phones can only reach 1.4Ghz or 1.44Ghz stable, which is still a 40%+ overclock)
So if you wanted a better cpu... well the cpu is a real beast. And you can't beat that screen.
Imo if you're not afraid to flash, the galaxy S is just awesome.
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Thanks! Will it get the official update too?
is it also true the Desire S supports 14.4 mb/s speed while the sgs is only 7.2mb/s...?
Will there be a great difference?
is this "friend" hypothetical ? lol
SGS will get Gingerbread officially yes, Some users have it official at the moment , dependant on the location in the world.
i too would suggest SGS, The desire is a good phone and i doubt your "friend" would be disappointed if they chose it.
BUT !!! as mentioned before the SGS is awesome when tweaked, loads of excellent developers making it even more awesome. and the screen..... its unbeatable
But as a conclusion, the SGS is a year old, why not get your "friend" to invest in an SGS2 ??
azzledazzle said:
is this "friend" hypothetical ? lol
SGS will get Gingerbread officially yes, Some users have it official at the moment , dependant on the location in the world.
i too would suggest SGS, The desire is a good phone and i doubt your "friend" would be disappointed if they chose it.
BUT !!! as mentioned before the SGS is awesome when tweaked, loads of excellent developers making it even more awesome. and the screen..... its unbeatable
But as a conclusion, the SGS is a year old, why not get your "friend" to invest in an SGS2 ??
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yeh ahah. cheers
My friend is very non-tech and is a n00b at modding he wants a phone now lol, he cant wait as he's going on a looong holiday soon and wants a good phone... it's his choice haha.
nice it has GB update! But i heard the sgs has bad gps problems.... :/ also the pro abt the sgs is it has 8gb storage > 1.1gb sotrage on the desire s..
Is a sgs non-tweaked out the box stable/good?
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yeh ahah. cheers
My friend is very non-tech and is a n00b at modding he wants a phone now lol, he cant wait as he's going on a looong holiday soon and wants a good phone... it's his choice haha.
nice it has GB update! But i heard the sgs has bad gps problems.... :/ also the pro abt the sgs is it has 8gb storage > 1.1gb sotrage on the desire s..
Is a sgs non-tweaked out the box stable/good?
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GPS can be affected on a scale of things,
But there are countless threads / apps / tweaks to make it better, I personally dont have any GPS issues and never did when i was on a stock ROM.
if your friend is happy with a nice stable phone with many uses then a stock SGS will suit him fine.
however if he is like a lot of us android users and wants to hack the crap out of his SGS he will be jizzing in his pants .... lol
The sgs comes in a 16 GB version too.... and sd card upto 32GB so plenty and plenty of storage
EDIT: i was happy running stock ROMS - but i knew i could get more from my phone so i got involved with the wrong crowd, ended up becoming an addict and now i have withdrawal symptoms if i dont get my daily fix DAMN YOU XDA !!! lol
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GPS can be affected on a scale of things,
But there are countless threads / apps / tweaks to make it better, I personally dont have any GPS issues and never did when i was on a stock ROM.
if your friend is happy with a nice stable phone with many uses then a stock SGS will suit him fine.
however if he is like a lot of us android users and wants to hack the crap out of his SGS he will be jizzing in his pants .... lol
The sgs comes in a 16 GB version too.... and sd card upto 32GB so plenty and plenty of storage
EDIT: i was happy running stock ROMS - but i knew i could get more from my phone so i got involved with the wrong crowd, ended up becoming an addict and now i have withdrawal symptoms if i dont get my daily fix DAMN YOU XDA !!! lol
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Haha, thanks for the info mate, it's much appreciated!" i guess that could clear things up a bit for him! The only minor con in the gs is it has 512 ram which doesnt seem much compared to the desire s 768mb haha.. i also kind of get where your heading .
my tab is so damn laggy and i have been on the stock rom since i got it.. tempted to flash now..
unused RAM is wasted RAM.
take no notice of things like that, you will hear a lot about quadrant scores , RAM tweaks and so on.
if your phone feels fast for YOU thats all that matters, if you want a little extra speed then you can have it lol.
its all about finding the right balance for YOU, dont always panic about not having the newest ROM / Kernel / update and so on...
and by saying YOU - i mean your friend lol
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unused RAM is wasted RAM.
take no notice of things like that, you will hear a lot about quadrant scores , RAM tweaks and so on.
if your phone feels fast for YOU thats all that matters, if you want a little extra speed then you can have it lol.
its all about finding the right balance for YOU, dont always panic about not having the newest ROM / Kernel / update and so on...
and by saying YOU - i mean your friend lol
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thanks lol But why do lots of reviews say more RAM makes it smoother??? If it is just going to waste??
hopefully performance should be satisying enough
well its like RAM on a PC - it can make multi tasking smoother, but if you have 1GB of RAM and eveything you do uses 0.5GB of RAM, that extra is wasting away.
dont buy in to the hype of more is better, its not always the case, if it feels quick and responds quick, and that satisfies you, thats the main point.
Hell !! i would like a super computer with 10GB RAM - 5TB hard drive and so on... But my current PC does everything i want and it does it quick...... if ya catch my drift ?
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well its like RAM on a PC - it can make multi tasking smoother, but if you have 1GB of RAM and eveything you do uses 0.5GB of RAM, that extra is wasting away.
dont buy in to the hype of more is better, its not always the case, if it feels quick and responds quick, and that satisfies you, thats the main point.
Hell !! i would like a super computer with 10GB RAM - 5TB hard drive and so on... But my current PC does everything i want and it does it quick...... if ya catch my drift ?
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yeh, thanks haha!
Bump, still open to opinions believe it or not! he has 2 great offers for both devices.,.
will sgs still need 'fixes' after GB update?
cheers guys
As long as Samsung uses RFS as a file-system I believe it will always need a lagfix. I doubt they will ever get it right.
With every update people keep saying it's not required anymore, but when using a single ROM for more than 3 weeks it is imho.
I had XWJS3 for 4 weeks and it started lagging like hell.
So for average-users I tend to recommend HTC.
Anyone else looking forward to it?
Is it going to be released on the SGS 1? I get the feeling there won't be an official release of it for it but will anyone be making a custom rom?
shifty39 said:
Anyone else looking forward to it?
Is it going to be released on the SGS 1? I get the feeling there won't be an official release of it for it but will anyone be making a custom rom?
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No offending intended but you should see the threads here, more. Than10 threads are already here asking the exact same question. And i dont think any member xan answer this question for you, only samsung and google can and they will on 19th so please wait till then.
hit thankxx if i helped. sent from my mind through telepathy (ya its possible)!
Yeah hope so..or the developers will port it..
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Yeah hope so..or the developers will port it..
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i have no doubt that the galaxy s devs will make a port for our i9000's, i mean if theres a friggin honeycomb port, it just makes sense that they would bring us some delicious ice cream sandwich.
yes i am! i Even made a rom in ice style but i am not able to post it because i am new on the forum
Thats Awesome
I read somewhere ICS will be available to any gingerbread running device!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXihfs7DKPE
Watch this video. The presenter is saying clearly that this next version will be made available for every phone from new to old. So, expect it on SGS. However, the question is that whether it will run smoothly or not ?
Here are some demo features that will come out in ICS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCIaTmGvXJE
cool
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Google has made very clear that most fevices running gb will run ics.
now its just samsung who need to decide our future.
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BHuvan goyal said:
Google has made very clear that most fevices running gb will run ics.
now its just samsung who need to decide our future.
sent from the beast known as samsung galaxy s. ;-)
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not only our future, their future
do we have any news??
this sdk dump is here
http://www.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-sdk-system-dump-available-devs-and-themers-get-it
all the devices that had a gingerbread update would receive the update for 4.0 as well .. don't panic and let's just hope for the best!
I belive there isn't much ram on sgs to run ICS
And anyway, we have CyanogenMod. It will surely be updated to ICS.
One way or another we will get it.
How relatively well it will run on our device is another matter.
Hmm, can't wait for the Icecream Sandwich.
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I belive there isn't much ram on sgs to run ICS
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Totally agreed. There is hardly even enough ram for gingerbread to run as smoothly as froyo.
Android developers claimed today that ics is lighter and snappier. So i guess that means it will require less ram then gb. Its newer version so it is obvious they tried to make it lighter.
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I am very happy with my SGM and with all the options available here and the great community around this device.
But as always, I'm looking ahead to the next Galaxy phone I will buy in a near future. Galaxy W caught my attention: is a very good device, 1,4 GHz, 512 MB, excellent display...!
But I got worried when I looked at that phone's topic here on XDA... They have nothing!!!!
They don't even have a CM7 port....
So I started to wonder: where squadzone, mebitek, parasmi, maclaw, and others great developers we have here will go from here?!?! We have golden devs here, guys! And I'm very worried about my future with custom ROMs on future devices....
That will depend on what device they will buy in the near future.. since they are still enjoying developing roms for our device, just enjoy every tiny bit of it..
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felipevsw said:
I am very happy with my SGM and with all the options available here and the great community around this device.
But as always, I'm looking ahead to the next Galaxy phone I will buy in a near future. Galaxy W caught my attention: is a very good device, 1,4 GHz, 512 MB, excellent display...!
But I got worried when I looked at that phone's topic here on XDA... They have nothing!!!!
They don't even have a CM7 port....
So I started to wonder: where squadzone, mebitek, parasmi, maclaw, and others great developers we have here will go from here?!?! We have golden devs here, guys! And I'm very worried about my future with custom ROMs on future devices....
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just ensure that the device you will buy in future must be international version then there will be no shortage of devs
As far as I know, Galaxy W is a global version. I understand that it is a very "young" phone and I hope, at the time I bought one, it is more mature
Anyone knows where tj_style is developing?? For which device (if he is still developing)??
just pm him and ask
felipevsw said:
Anyone knows where tj_style is developing?? For which device (if he is still developing)??
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I think ZTE blade...
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dhlalit11 said:
just pm him and ask
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I assume he is a loooooot busy....
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I think ZTE blade...
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That's too bad... I intend not to change from Samsung...