Hi everyone, I have a Milestone with the Leak 2.2 Froyo ROM from GOT, and I have it overclocked @ 1GHz. I thought it could play flawlessly 720p .mkv video files , but no matter what video player I've used, none of them can play the video without "freezes".. RockPlayer is really "close" to achieve it, but it the video loses frames.. Sound and subtitles are played perfect though.
Is it possible to play 720p on Droid/Milestone, has anyone of you done it already?
All my videos are in .mkv form, and the Series I am watching come out in 720p versions. It would be really nice if I could watch them on Milestone without having to transcode them.
Thank you very much for your time.
For what's it worth, I could never get the Galaxy S (several iterations) to run 720p MKV files without crashing/freezing after 30 seconds or so. Everything seems smooth, and then, the videos just freeze.
They were standard 720p TV shows that you download from Usenet.
Incidentally, my iPhone 4 played 720p MOV files without any problems.
I suspect that the Milestone/Droid is capable of running the films smoothly after overclock.
is there a player that can now play 720p on milestone?
Try VPlayer.
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Hey guys,
I was thinking about buying a Nook color but I had one question.
Will the Nook Color be able to play 720p mkv files? With subtitles? I noticed that the archos 70 can play 720p mkv files and It seems to me the cpu is similar in both units.
I am pretty uninformed about this topic so I was hoping if anyone could enlighten me? I did not want false expectations that one day someone will be able to get it to work on the Nook Color.
Btw I know that Nook Color can not play it natively, but since the archos 70 I was wondering if the Nook Color could 2 in the future?
Thanks for your help!
is there an app?
At the moment, I don't believe the nook will play .mkv files without rooting it. I haven't rooted mine yet (waiting to see if 2.2 really does come out next month and what changes it brings, first) so can't say if there is an app that will play them.
I would think that it could, as long as the necessary app is installed and the codecs are available. The hardware seems like it would be perfectly capable of playing a 720p file, no matter the format, it would just be squished down to the correct resolution of 600 (or smaller depending on ratio).
Don't know about 720p, but as long as the video and audio streams are something the NC recognizes it should play an MKV (h.264, mp4 for video, aac or mp3 for audio). Although I had much better luck with just straight up mp4 files.
The built in player only even showed subtitles if they were hardcoded to the video.
i can play 720p mp4 files just fine with no lag what so ever.. Quality is awesome.. Rock Player doesn't like MKVs or AVIs, it will play them just really really slow..
ws6kid said:
i can play 720p mp4 files just fine with no lag what so ever.. Quality is awesome.. Rock Player doesn't like MKVs or AVIs, it will play them just really really slow..
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Are you using the stock player or Rock Player?
rock player plays mkv's fine on my evo but i cant get it to activate on my nook
mvideo player plays mkv 720p anime with subtitles that i have on my samsung captivate. (although it seems you have to start the video from beginning to end (ie: can't skip around) or the audio will get out of sync)
wondering if you download android market and get mvideo player if mkv 720p subtitles will work on nook color as well.
if so i would be interested in the ereader/tablet
Why? The root takes approximitly 15 to 20 minutes. Is practically completly automated, and improves the device 500%.
ws6kid said:
i can play 720p mp4 files just fine with no lag what so ever.. Quality is awesome.. Rock Player doesn't like MKVs or AVIs, it will play them just really really slow..
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I loaded up a 800mb standard def AVI and it played fine in rockplayer. Bit of stutter at the start but it smooths right out after about 10 seconds. Just FYI
smithgood9 said:
Nook Color can only play these video formats: 3GP, 3G2, MP4, M4V, and OGG. And supports MPEG-4 Simple Profile up to 854×480, H.263 up to 352×288, and H.264 Baseline profile up to 854×480. So if u want to enjoy video on Nook Color, u should convert video to Nook Color compatible formats. I suggest u a powerful video converter called Foxreal Video Converter, which enables convert all video formats to Nook Color with the optimized video format (MP4, 854×480, H.264 codec, 1500kbps avg bitrate, AAC 48KHz 160Kbps) to give user the best visual enjoyment.
U can try it, hopefully it can help u.
Tim
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You can download an app from market and then you can watch rmvb on Nook Color. So, your post is not 100% accurate.
There are a couple apps vplayer and rockplayer that can play just about every format on armv7l (our cpu)
More importantly I heard the ffree and awesome VLC player is coming to android VERY soon, that will be the best for the NC for sure
I have tried half a dozen video apps and have been unable to play 720p mkv.
720p youtube vids don't work
I tried downloading 720p and 1080p videos from youtube with tubemate and they wouldn't play. They'd skip and stutter - totally unwatchable.
Also just tried playing a 180meg 720p AVI of the office in VPlayer. The video plays fluidly but the audio is completely out of sync.
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I have tried half a dozen video apps and have been unable to play 720p mkv.
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Nook color's GPU limitation. Max it can play back is 854×480.
See 3 posts up.
From Nook color spec on nookdevs.com site.
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 - Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600
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I'm afraid 720p and 1080p are out of the question.
What's the point of 720p on a 480p device? Do you just not want to convert your video files?
Sent from my Nook Color.
Vplayer works better than rockplayer. Plays mkv. Ratings are bad because developer said application would always be free than started to charge for it. Paid version is highly rated
Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
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What's the point of 720p on a 480p device? Do you just not want to convert your video files?
Sent from my Nook Color.
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Because the nook's screen is 600 pixels so 720 would be the smallest "standard" size that doesn't have to be up-converted.
I play mkv files on my HTC Desire - Rockplayer and others all stuttered and displayed a blocky effect.
Then I installed Vital Player (neon) and they all player wonderfully - even 70p ones! For some reason it struggles with 720p mp4 files but who uses those?
The chip that handles video on the NC wants to play video smaller than 854x480.
Any video larger than that will not go through the hardware accelerator.
I have a thread where I attached a handbrake preset for the NC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992214
If you use that preset, you have to set the video size yourself (defaults to original size)
Use the original size if it is smaller than 854x480. If it is larger (like 720p would be) then set it to 854 width with "Keep Aspect Ratio" and the video file that handbrake puts out will be nook hardware accelerated.
Also, MoboPlayer is much better than the alternatives as far as the player itself goes.
Juboha said:
Nook color's GPU limitation. Max it can play back is 854×480.
See 3 posts up.
From Nook color spec on nookdevs.com site.
I'm afraid 720p and 1080p are out of the question.
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I read entire thread but I really want to know why archos 70 or 101 (with same GPU!) manages to play 720p hardware accelerated.
I know a lot of ppl use rock player but it was choppy on a lot of videos I was trying to watch
so I looked for a new player and found mvideoplayer and played a 720p 1.38gb mkv file and it played super smooth
just thought I'd let ppl know
Just tried it out. It wont play ac3 sound on my mkvs.
i have a few players installed and mvideoplayer is one of them. i also have rock player installed because there are certain files that mvideoplayer will not play, but rock player does. also i'm guessing that 720p mkv file you played was not encoded in High profile because otherwise it would not be smooth.
I wanted to see how an HD movie plays on the G. I tired to play an Apple Quicktime HD Movie trailer and no go. I also tried to play an HD Trailer from Yahoo movies and no go, it said "download failed".
Can the rooted G with TNT 2.4 play HD Quicktime movies? What's the best way for me to test this out?
From what I have read, the g-tablet has some very specific requirements for viewing 1080p files. I know for a fact that it will play MP4 H.264 so I just encode everything to that with Total Video Converter.
I haven't tried to play a .mov yet on it. I have a couple that I downloaded from the web that I should try.
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Just tried a 1080p .mov that I downloaded from youtube. It plays in Rock Player with software decoding, but really bad.
I suggest downloading hd content to a computer and converting to mp4 h.264 because we know that is supported by the tegra hardware.
I am really disappointed with the quality of video playback on the G Tab. With everyone jiving about the great hardware specs, I don't see great video playback. Unless I don't have it maximized right.
I downloaded a couple of converters and converted movies from mov to mp4, avi, and wmv. I also used Roxio Creator 2009. Nothin greally plays all that great.
What am I missing?
The best converter for the g-tab, in my experience, is Handbrake. I use the built-in Regular-Normal profile and change h.264 to mpeg4 (because tegra 2 has issues with h.264) and it plays completely smoothly at 720p and 1080p.
It plays .mov containers - the Tron Legacy trailers come to mind.
It has some trouble with mkv's and mulitple audio tracks, and HiDef h264 videos that are encoded in "high profile". That's been my experience.
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I am really disappointed with the quality of video playback on the G Tab. With everyone jiving about the great hardware specs, I don't see great video playback. Unless I don't have it maximized right.
I downloaded a couple of converters and converted movies from mov to mp4, avi, and wmv. I also used Roxio Creator 2009. Nothin greally plays all that great.
What am I missing?
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There's no video player (that I know of anyway) at the moment that is designed to take advantage of the tegra2 hardware. Once there is it will fly. The G Tab doesn't seem to support a lot of codecs as well.
I've had success playing 720p x264 MKV's up to 4GB with Rockplayer and ES Video Player.
Excellent. Thanks everyone for the input. I'll check some of these tonight.
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The best converter for the g-tab, in my experience, is Handbrake. .
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Thanks. This converter works great.
Well that didn't take long: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881835 - Rockplayer 1.5.x (Tegra 2 optimisations)
Has anyone sucessfully played a 1080p video?
I have tried mpeg4, mkv and h.264 and they play but the sync is off and they are very choppy.
According to Nvidia's website the Tegra 2 is supposed to have an on-chip h.264 decoder and encoder on it. But nothing seem to take advantage of it. Even the new Rockplayer with the Tegra 2 Optimization.
If anyone can let me know how you encoded 1080p to play on your tab I would be greatful.
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For anyone else looking, I got 1080p to work on mine with Rockplayer 1.51 and hardware decoding. I donwloaded a youtube/vevo 1080p video and ran it through Handbrake. Normal profile, MP4 container and MPEG encoding. It plays FULL 1080p very smooth that way.
Been trying to find a good video player...all seem to lag quite a bit or are quite choppy...anyone have any luck with any working really good? If so, please share!
I like rockplayer. Used it for a bit on the plane yesterday.
Is there a certain resolution you encoding videos too or will rock player handle anything?
i have an android phone and I use both rockplayer and mvideoplayer. rockplayer handles avi files well but not mkv files. mvideoplayer handles both.
i don't have a nook color but I would assume if you have a rooted nook(and have access to market) you could get these players and they should work since the processing seems the same.
i'm interested in a rooted nook color but can't seem to find if anyone has actually tried these apps.
rockplayer on the nook can handle 480p non hd videos fine in the mkv or avi containers. anything higher than that and you start to get audio and video seperation because the proc cant keep the video going at the propper pace
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i have an android phone and I use both rockplayer and mvideoplayer. rockplayer handles avi files well but not mkv files. mvideoplayer handles both.
i don't have a nook color but I would assume if you have a rooted nook(and have access to market) you could get these players and they should work since the processing seems the same.
i'm interested in a rooted nook color but can't seem to find if anyone has actually tried these apps.
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im using mplayer on mine right now and watching some mp4 videos, not an hd file ... but the proper ratio and it looks killer ... totally worth 250 bucks
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I use Vplayer beta and i strongly recomend it. it plays most videos well and only lags a bit when you get to real high quality videos
i bought a nook color and tried it out...so far video playback is not that great.
mvideo player seems to have a very slight audio lag when i played a standard avi file(not converted or optimized for nook color) and no mkv files work on any of the players.
i think this has something to do with the internal videoplayer itself and not really the actually processing power of the nookcolor.
looks like i will have to just convert files to mp4...an extra step but I read more than watch videos.
If you are using anything other than an mp4 file extension then you're using software decoding. Software decoding will only go as smoothly as the CPU allows. I've found when using software decoding I can handle AVIs up to standard def in Rockplayer. (480) I get a tiny bit of stutter at the start, but it smooths out within 60 seconds.
However, if you use hardware decoding, (only works with mp4 files) you can probably push the resolution up a bit. I have a 720x400 file at a video bitrate of 800 that plays instantly and smoothly in the native player and in Rockplayer. I plan to go home and push the resolution a bit further and see where it starts to desync, so once I do I'll report back.
tl;dr: Anything other than mp4 has to be standard def or lower and played in a 3rd party player that can do software decoding, like Rockplayer. Anything in mp4 can be played in anything that does hardware decoding, and can probably go quite a bit higher than SD.
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urbanengine1 said:
I use Vplayer beta and i strongly recomend it. it plays most videos well and only lags a bit when you get to real high quality videos
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I encountered an error while installing vplayer beta. didn't you get any?
I'm a heavy video watcher, so I naturally loaded up my Captivate with tons of videos, thrilled at the idea that I didn't need to convert them first...or so I thought.
While playback performance is superb on even HD content with subtitles, it seems that hardware acceleration will only work with files encoded at 23.976fps Playing files encoded at other framerates (like 30fps, or a few variable-framerate files) results in completely out-of-sync video and audio.
Now, I can maybe excuse lack of VFR support, since timecode implementation might not be so simple (I wouldn't know), but why can't my Captivate play videos at their correct framerates? Videos are perfectly in sync when playing in software mode (using players like VPlayer and RockBox), but performance is poor in comparison. That leaves me to re-encode a good portion of my videos using AviSynth--hours and hours of setup and encoding time--just to end up with a workable framerate for my Captivate.
I just want to make sure this isn't just an isolated issue, as I've had this problem on both my original and my replacement Captivates. Anyone think this should be fixed by Samsung in their Froyo release?
I convert lots of videos (BD and standard DVD discs) for use on my Cappy. Some I leave at 23.97, others I switch to 30fps. All play fine in both mkv, divx, mp4 and h.264 formats. I use PavTube Ultimate Video Converter as it reads BD discs, even those with copy protection (The Dark Knight, for one, as well as rental discs). Works great and the vids look stunning on my Cappy.
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I convert lots of videos (BD and standard DVD discs) for use on my Cappy. Some I leave at 23.97, others I switch to 30fps. All play fine in both mkv, divx, mp4 and h.264 formats. I use PavTube Ultimate Video Converter as it reads BD discs, even those with copy protection (The Dark Knight, for one, as well as rental discs). Works great and the vids look stunning on my Cappy.
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Hmm, interesting. The files in question are all mkv's that have framerates of 29.97 (constant framerate) or 23.976 (variable framerate). They have various resolutions and audio encoding. Every single one of them is heavily out of sync on my Captivate, even after remuxing into an mp4 container, although they play fine on my laptop. Using AviSynth and FFDshow to convert the framerate to 23.976 (constant) allows the videos to play fine on the phone.
A small bump: Another major issue I have with H.264 content seems to be seeking. Although I can't figure out whether this is caused by the video itself or the phone (since the videos always play and seek fine in VLC), the issue only seems to occur with H.264 videos in MP4 containers (not with MKV's).
The first set of videos are all MP4's made by extracting the H.264 streams from MKV's (all 23.976fps), re-encoding them at 800x450 resolution (using AviSynth and FFDshow on my desktop), and putting them into MP4 containers. The reason I converted them was to embed .ass softsubs as styled hardsubs (since styled .ass support is lacking in Android video players). Every single one of these videos will not manually seek past around 14:06 on my phone (they seek and play fine on my computer). If I seek to around 14 minutes and let the video play (or just let it play from the beginning), it will play through just fine, but attempting to seek beyond that causes ANY video player on my phone that relies on hardware acceleration to freeze (software codec players like RockBox and VPlayer will seek fine).
The second set of videos are exactly the same, except they are 640x480 resolution and they were encoded on my laptop (still using AviSynth and FFDShow). These videos will not seek past 3:25 seconds on my phone without freezing the player (once again, they play and seek fine on any computer). On top of that, these videos will NOT play through on their own: at some random point in the video (different each time), I get an error message saying "Sorry, the video cannot be played" (in any player relying on hardware acceleration), and then the video frame will freeze while the sound continues to play in the background.
Note that this only happens with MP4's: the MKV's have no problem playing or seeking, but they are out of sync if they are not at 23.976fps (constant) and I want my styled subtitles. Can anyone else reproduce issues like this? This has happened so far on TWO Captivates, whether on stock or running custom ROM's (I've used Cognition, Cezar's and Darky's with various kernels). I'm very confused and running out of ideas, I've already been asking about this on video encoding forums and haven't found a solution.
Edit: Nevermind these additional issues. I solved them by using FFmpegSource instead of DirectShowSource, now all my videos play and seek fine. However, this doesn't solve my issue with different framerates being out of sync.