Hey guys, is there anyway to get the hero to run over the 768 max that we all seem to have? I know there is some out there that can not even run 768, but mine runs it with no problems or excess heat. SO, curious if there was anyway to make a kernel, that would clock the CPU higher????
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Hey guys, is there anyway to get the hero to run over the 768 max that we all seem to have? I know there is some out there that can not even run 768, but mine runs it with no problems or excess heat. SO, curious if there was anyway to make a kernel, that would clock the CPU higher????
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768 is the max max No higher for us
When they started overclocking, they tried it all the way to over 900. (not over 9000... lol) But with these chips, they found clocking it higher than 768 actually made it slower, as voltages, etc. couldn't keep up.
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ive been liking android so far and because overlocking is so simple ive been wanting to try it to hopefully squeeze a little more performance out of the vogue
i just have some questions
whats the highest safe/stable speed?
ive heard some have gone up to 550mhz and quite a few that are at about 500mhz just wanted to know the general consensus from vogue users
my next question is if i clocked up that high should i be worried about heat?
thanks
dude4 said:
i just have some questions whats the highest safe/stable speed? thanks
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Every CPU is different so this can't be answered. Your's may not overclock 1mhz, it may overclock 100mhz. You just have to try.
Just in case you are interested.
The clock speed must be a multiple of 19.2 so the available speeds between 380 and 600MHz are:
384
400 (because it uses a different pll)
403.2
422.4
441.6
460.8
480
499.2
518.4
537.6
556.8
576
595.2
Other values will be rounded down to one of these.
dude4 said:
whats the highest safe/stable speed?
ive heard some have gone up to 550mhz and quite a few that are at about
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Stable speed is ALWAYS device-dependent.
Some chips have minor defects (just a fact of manufacturing).
NEVER, EVER just shove it to 550Mhz. Best case your phone will crash. Worst case your phone will burn up.
General rule of overclocking:
1. Increase the clock speed 2-5%
2. Run an intensive app (there's a benchmarking app in the RogueTools trhead) to see if the phone crashes. Run it multiple times (or continuously) for a half hour with the phone plug in.
3a. If it doesn't crash, go back to step 1.
3b. If it crashes, go back 1 or 2 19.2 Mhz steps. This is your stable overclock frequency.
For the 2-5%, as mentioned above, just do every 20 Mhz. Set it to 420, 440, 460, 480, 500, etc.... I wouldn't go past 540.
hi I was wondering how high you can over clock your hero. I have to 758 mhz and it is perfectly stable. Is there any thing i can use to over clock it more.
768 is the highest I've seen.
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I've heard that 710 is really the highest you can reliably run, I wouldn't risk the damage just to go that little bit higher.
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Thats all I have seen to. I did here that you could get it a little over 900 MHz.
LOL, it would probably catch on fire at 900.
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Mine is stable at 787
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Mine is stable at 787
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I'm sorry, but I don't believe this.
Mine is closked to 691 and it totally stable. If I push to 710 it starts to become less stable.
Can you show us screenprints ?
Im running 2.2. ShootMe doesn't work on this rom, go download and test for yourself.
im also running 2.2. if you wanna try it out for yourself download ([Rom] Darchdroid v2.7 "KangSlayer" | Complete, OC'd, MMS, Camera, Everything!!) I am at 768 MHz. I use setcpu, profiles. when the screen is off its at 518 MHz.
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grifforama said:
I'm sorry, but I don't believe this.
Mine is closked to 691 and it totally stable. If I push to 710 it starts to become less stable.
Can you show us screenprints ?
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Mine is stable at 787 also.. Ever hero is different.. Iv also been running OC since the day toastcfh figured it out over 2 months ago. I have ran 768mhz min and max for an entire day with no problem (i was benchmarking and forgot). Some people cant even run 710mhz without there phone becoming unstable.
Also 768mhz is the clock speed most kernels are maxed at cuz the highest clock speed the hero can be clocked to with a benefit is 768mhz (darch will include 787 in his kernels sometimes). 787mhz will actually give the same or worse results as 768 because it, in a sense, clogs the CPU. We cant raise our FSB of the cpu.
Toastcfh, the reason who got us OC, has actually pushed it as far as he could go. He got way higher then 787. But like i said, there is not benefit of it.
Our phones wont blow up or stop working because the speeds are high. If you keep the temps down you really dont have anything to worry about, temps are the main reason why OC will kill the life of a CPU.
Awesome Information, Thanks.
So i have been able to clock my captivate to a stable 1300 using suckerpunch #57. I'm wondering though how often do you think are phones actually use this frequency? i know when i'm running a psx emulator im sure that it probably has the cpu maxed out, which runs tekken 3 beautifully now at no lower then 48 fps, but i hope on not much else (would be nice to find an app that would put the cpu used clock speed on taskbar). Only reason i wonder is because of course phones don't have cooling systems like computers so i worry about cpu life.
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So i have been able to clock my captivate to a stable 1300 using suckerpunch #57. I'm wondering though how often do you think are phones actually use this frequency? i know when i'm running a psx emulator im sure that it probably has the cpu maxed out, which runs tekken 3 beautifully now at no lower then 48 fps, but i hope on not much else (would be nice to find an app that would put the cpu used clock speed on taskbar). Only reason i wonder is because of course phones don't have cooling systems like computers so i worry about cpu life.
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i have never seen the cpu get hot in my phone. it gets unstable before any heat is detected, but my phone is not very overclockable, i can get 1.3 with much care to the uv settings. i wouldnt worry about heat until the 1.4 mark, even then you are probably fine. the newer qualcom chips have been set to run at 1.9ghz and dont burn up they are on the same size architecture as ours. these arm chips run at such low voltages that heat is not really a big problem. i dont think anyone on the board has killed a hummingbird from overclocking it.
I think your speaking pre-emptively about not burning up.
Just because the chip doesn't instantly melt doesn't mean your not risking electro migration.
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So i have been able to clock my captivate to a stable 1300 using suckerpunch #57. I'm wondering though how often do you think are phones actually use this frequency? i know when i'm running a psx emulator im sure that it probably has the cpu maxed out, which runs tekken 3 beautifully now at no lower then 48 fps, but i hope on not much else (would be nice to find an app that would put the cpu used clock speed on taskbar). Only reason i wonder is because of course phones don't have cooling systems like computers so i worry about cpu life.
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this chip has a built in fail safe and can run as long as it can handle it automatically freezes or reboot your phone above its capable limit. If you want real time monitoring of your cpu clock speed/usage, ram usage and battery temp download Temp+CPU V2 widget from the market pretty good app. enjoy
Hi folks,
I was just wondering, what are everyone's speeds? I shall start first I have attached a screenshot of my voltages, speeds, and governor.
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Quick note - i would strongly suggest backing your CPU down to a max of 1200Mhz. For some reason, any speed above that will tank your GPU performance (by as much as half); the additional 100Mhz CPU loss isn't really felt (especially with the GPU gains).
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Quick note - i would strongly suggest backing your CPU down to a max of 1200Mhz. For some reason, any speed above that will tank your GPU performance (by as much as half); the additional 100Mhz CPU loss isn't really felt (especially with the GPU gains).
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Is there anyway to confirm this? How can I measure GPU performance?
I set mine at 1200MHz and didn't bother playing with cpu voltage.
PoisonWolf said:
Is there anyway to confirm this? How can I measure GPU performance?
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It has been well confirmed in severl threads (Cm7 dev and general), but you can easily test yourself with nenamark 1. Set your clocks to 1200, and run the bench; then set your clocks to 1300, run again (and watch your framerate plummet).
Divine_Madcat said:
It has been well confirmed in severl threads (Cm7 dev and general), but you can easily test yourself with nenamark 1. Set your clocks to 1200, and run the bench; then set your clocks to 1300, run again (and watch your framerate plummet).
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I tried your little scenario of dropping down to 1125mhz and running nenamark. I was 14.8 running 1125mhz and at 15.6 at 1300mhz. I am running chainfire plug ins.
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And what do those numbers mean?
14.8 is better or worse compared to 15.6?
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I tried your little scenario of dropping down to 1125mhz and running nenamark. I was 14.8 running 1125mhz and at 15.6 at 1300mhz. I am running chainfire plug ins.
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Odd.. i can get 21 Fps at @1200.. i would have expected the 1125 to be around the same; though the 1300 sounds right on.
I got 16.3 fps using my current setup. Lawl. What part of android uses 3d acceleration anyway?
PoisonWolf said:
I got 16.3 fps using my current setup. Lawl. What part of android uses 3d acceleration anyway?
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UH.. android, not alot, but pretty much any game (or even some web browsers like Opera). Its easy to "lawl", but it actually DOES matter...
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UH.. android, not alot, but pretty much any game (or even some web browsers like Opera). Its easy to "lawl", but it actually DOES matter...
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Good point however I don't play any games that uses 3d. I don't really play any games. Just browsing with dolphin and lots of email.
I will take it down per notch as per your suggestion once I update to a newer version though.
Also, some of the framerate difference may come from you running the 32bit framebuffer kernel, instead of the faster 16bit (but if you don't game alot, you may not really need it anyway).
Scratch that. I just tested it. I got 22.9fps. Lawl. I am now tweaking it again. What are your voltages?
Thanks for the suggestion again. 1200 MHz Max for me.
P.s. how do I check which framerate buffer am I running?
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Good point however I don't play any games that uses 3d. I don't really play any games. Just browsing with dolphin and lots of email.
I will take it down per notch as per your suggestion once I update to a newer version though.
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If u don't play any games, then why to bother for the 3D loss of 1300mhz?
I would prefer to use the extra speed.
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If u don't play any games, then why to bother for the 3D loss of 1300mhz?
I would prefer to use the extra speed.
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Frankly, i am under the personal impression that overall the system is more responsive at 1200, and that is not just the GPU. Something about that speed is the sweet spot.
And really.. only rarely will a system that does web pages and email hit max speed anyway... why not opt for a better all around performance, rather than an immeasurable CPU gain?
I know this could be kind of off topic, but what battery temperatures do you guys get when overclocking? because the other day mine was at 36 Celsius overclocked at 1200, Does anyone knows of a safe temperature range?
Mine hovers around 34 to 36. My hd2 goes up to 43 and that is fine too. Honestly, I would think that as long as it is under 40 you should not worth.
I use 300 min and 1200 max and have the governor set to on demand. No issues with this setting.
300 - .8125
600 - 1.0
800 - 1.1875
1100 - 1.25
1200 - 1.2875
Haven't used it much recently, but about 5% drain for 24 hours in sleep. I need to put it through some heavy use to see how bad I can kill the battery.
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1200 - .8125
1100 - 1.0
800 - 1.1875
600 - 1.25
300 - 1.2875
Haven't used it much recently, but about 5% drain for 24 hours in sleep. I need to put it through some heavy use to see how bad I can kill the battery.
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You probably got the voltages reversed. Not possible to run 300 mhz on 1.2875. Lawl.
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I use 300 min and 1200 max and have the governor set to on demand. No issues with this setting.
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This was my initial setting as well (with the exception of running the max at 1300mhz). However, I realized that it wasn't the max speed that was the issue, I found out that increasing the lower-steppings was key in increasing the overall fluidity of the device as the interactive governor ramped through the steppings.
I've undervolted my device and right now I have
100mhz - 825 mah
200mhz - 825 mah
500mhz - 800 mah
for some reason the 500mhz setting is stable and if I undervolt 100mhz/200mhz even more, I crash.
If I set my minimum processor power to 500mhz would I consume less batter than if I were to use 100mhz/200mhz?
Your phone spends most of its time in the lowest and highest cpu frequencies and just a small amount of time at the intermediate levels. Your undervolt for 500mhz probably isn't stable but it doesn't crash because it's only at that frequency for a very short amount of time. If you set the minimum to 500mhz at that voltage it will probably start playing up.
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graph of my cpu levels
Abit offtopic but what the hell!
I was wondering if there's any risks involved with undervolting?
I don't meen the crashes and freeze ups, but rather more like if there's any risk
to really damage your phone from it?
I have and still do alot of OC in the computer world, and do know what overvolting can do. But i'm still curious about what uv can do to your system.
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Your phone spends most of its time in the lowest and highest cpu frequencies and just a small amount of time at the intermediate levels. Your undervolt for 500mhz probably isn't stable but it doesn't crash because it's only at that frequency for a very short amount of time. If you set the minimum to 500mhz at that voltage it will probably start playing up.
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graph of my cpu levels
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It's been my minimum even before posting this thread. I just started to wonder.
I've been on it for 10 hours now. I have 45% battery life left. Probably due to my 1700mhz being @ 1350mah right now.
I can assure you, it's VERY stable. It's so SMOOTH. Smoother than just having rocketrom and all that stuff. NO LAGS, NO SHUTDOWNS. ALL STABLE.
I can see better battery life, and CPU Spy says it used up 47% 1700mhz and 40% 500mhz. I think it's giving me better battery life.
It's evenly splitted up probably because I was using lulzactive governor.
but then again I didn't log my previous battery life without undervolting.
Some more insight would be nice.
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Abit offtopic but what the hell!
I was wondering if there's any risks involved with undervolting?
I don't meen the crashes and freeze ups, but rather more like if there's any risk
to really damage your phone from it?
I have and still do alot of OC in the computer world, and do know what overvolting can do. But i'm still curious about what uv can do to your system.
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There are alot of risks. Minor chance that you will cause hardware damage to your phone but I'm saying VERY minor. Just don't be stupid with voltages, like just suddenly overdropping the voltages. Your processor might die.
It's scary as hell, it crashes alot while testing and all that ****.
Feels good when you get it stable though.
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Very slight chance to damage your hardware; only if you're very daring.
It should increase your battery life by atleast 20% if you reach the peak of your processors limit.
Bump, are there no other insights on this? Am I like, the only one who undervolted his/her note?
help
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Bump, are there no other insights on this? Am I like, the only one who undervolted his/her note?
help
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I want to run 1700mhz as permanent and also wanted to undervolt but i wasnt sure how much by and what the risks are. Reason being is my phone gets hot with heavy usage running at 1400mhz so didnt want to go to 1700. I'll watch this thread with interest
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I want to run 1700mhz as permanent and also wanted to undervolt but i wasnt sure how much by and what the risks are. Reason being is my phone gets hot with heavy usage running at 1400mhz so didnt want to go to 1700. I'll watch this thread with interest
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I'm running 500-1700mhz.
Indeed it does get hot at 1700mhz, when I'm playing games but I've only at most played for 4 hours straight.
For what reason would you want to run 1700mhz-1700mhz?
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I'm running 500-1700mhz.
Indeed it does get hot at 1700mhz, when I'm playing games but I've only at most played for 4 hours straight.
For what reason would you want to run 1700mhz-1700mhz?
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No sorry i meant running it at 1700 max, leaving it stock for the min. I just wanted to know how much i can safely undervolt 1700 by.
I actually have a question. I undervolted my note with SetCPU and I read that Tegrak Overclock Ultimate should be used as well together with SetCPU.
What does Tegrak Overclock do? GPU settings?
Would like to learn that part if anyone has any info.
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No sorry i meant running it at 1700 max, leaving it stock for the min. I just wanted to know how much i can safely undervolt 1700 by.
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I undervolted mine by about 100mah. I think I can tone it down by about 25mah more but I'm having a hard time getting it to stabilize.
1350 for my device is completely safe though.
Though, all processors are different. Yours could be better than mine and can withstand more UV-ing.
Goodluck!
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I actually have a question. I undervolted my note with SetCPU and I read that Tegrak Overclock Ultimate should be used as well together with SetCPU.
What does Tegrak Overclock do? GPU settings?
Would like to learn that part if anyone has any info.
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It's basically the same with SetCPU aside from its voltages.
I do not know if it should be used with SetCPU with the note because from what I've researched. It's only a common practice with SGSII.
Tried setting 100 and 200 mhz to 825. Crashed my phone twice in one day using it, gonna revert back to 875
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I undervolted mine by about 100mah. I think I can tone it down by about 25mah more but I'm having a hard time getting it to stabilize.
1350 for my device is completely safe though.
Though, all processors are different. Yours could be better than mine and can withstand more UV-ing.
Goodluck!
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Many thanks!
I will just experiment then, i didnt want to do that and then cause hw damage. I'll let you know how my processor gets on