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Windows Marketplace, will it hurt?

Hey everyone,
I am really concerned about windows marketplace. I suppose it will either help the community here by weeding out certain visitors, or it could lure all the good dev's from here with the promise of getting more than recognition for their work.
Anyone have an opinion?

It always hurts the first time.

necrolytic said:
It always hurts the first time.
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lolz i bet you say that 2 all the boyz

i think it'll be great. no more digging to find useful applications. i think the centralized market will work wonders.

its a shame they will get their are into us for it

tehhoe said:
its a shame they will get their are into us for it
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the who and the what with the huh?

telegraph0000 said:
the who and the what with the huh?
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I was going to try, but there's just no way.

necrolytic said:
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That's what she said.
And i don't think its going to affect us, i took 1 look at the prices they were charging for the apps and have decided that Marketplace is best left alone.
Sam

Mr. Zach said:
I was going to try, but there's just no way.
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Ahhh....his eloquence...
This mess it all mine
I have Been Looking for a vibrating keypad for a few weeks now
mine still isnt working
the funny thing is i tested it on my girlfriends it worked a treat
i want it even more now
All i know is i want it,
So cant i can wait to give it a go
my brother got one of these (or something like it) it was rubbish and very under powered.
Also it will only make the battery worse, more juice will be needed.
Yeooooooooooo
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1825687
I will be calling later
After reviewing all the past posts on this thread i will offer you a grand total of...
...$100
imagine the smell in that bedroom
A offer is a offer, if he doent like it doesnt need to attack people
Heh heh...I got too much time on my hands being unemployed....

tehhoe said:
its a shame they will get their are into us for it
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its a shame they will get their ARM! into us.
opps my bad i should really proof read.

I wouldn't worry about it. If anything, it should be useful for the platform and, as such, will benefit us all. For people like myself who flash ROMs quite often Marketplace is useless as it doesn't leave the the cabs and I'll have to redownload stuff every time. For those users who can't spend 5 minutes googling it will be a blessing and therefore will grow the market for WM apps.
What does worry me a bit is not users migrating to MP, but developers.

robinsonsam said:
That's what she said.
And i don't think its going to affect us, i took 1 look at the prices they were charging for the apps and have decided that Marketplace is best left alone.
Sam
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Is there anything free on the Windows Maketplace? The iPhone App store has a free section, just wondering if its the same kind of thing?

necrolytic said:
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this comment makes me feel there is a lack of a comment rating system on this forum. :-D

Android. The theif.

Doesn't anyone find it odd that we are paying out huge sums of cash for a Linux based OS that is free to use?

Because the cost of the handset doesn't factor into it at all :face palms:

I mean they handed us a broken toy and we fixed it for them with no pay and they sold it back to us as an update, now we are fixing it up more. Hopefully when Android 114.6 rolls out some devs. will for a union of some kind and make some cash from big business instead of settling for the 2.99 that their brothers and sisters are downloading.

Next time put the bong down and think before posting.
Here's your basic argument in another context:
The internet is free so why do we spend so much money on computers to browse web pages?
You fail. Thanks for playing.
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chelsea19 said:
I mean they handed us a broken toy and we fixed it for them with no pay and they sold it back to us as an update, now we are fixing it up more. Hopefully when Android 114.6 rolls out some devs. will for a union of some kind and make some cash from big business instead of settling for the 2.99 that their brothers and sisters are downloading.
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But no one asked you to fix it...?

mrbishi said:
Because the cost of the handset doesn't factor into it at all :face palms:
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Oh, no kidding, I had totally forgotten that hardware costs money somewhere on the road to neverland .
Compare prices for free vs paid OS on the same specs. Shouldn't there be a decent difference between the two?

androidlicious said:
But no one asked you to fix it...?
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True but shouldn't the devs. get what they deserve?

And the hurr durr thread of the day goes to-

Kiserai said:
Next time put the bong down and think before posting.
Here's your basic argument in another context:
The internet is free so why do we spend so much money on computers to browse web pages?
You fail. Thanks for playing.
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You fail, pretty damn horribly when you buy computers specifically, I have bought every computer I have ever owned without an OS and it has been cheaper than one with it.

chelsea19 said:
True but shouldn't the devs. get what they deserve?
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OK this whole line of "logic" is just not workin. You might wanna cut bait on this one.

Crotchety said:
OK this whole line of "logic" is just not workin. You might wanna cut bait on this one.
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Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.

bcpk said:
And the hurr durr thread of the day goes to-
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And another person is born that we all would have been better of without.

chelsea19 said:
Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.
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But who is it that decides the devs have been screwed. Is it you? I think that honor goes to each individual who bought the phone. You don't get to determine that someone else has been screwed just because your panties are in a bunch over something related to your phone.

The cost of a non open source operating system on a phone is going to be so heavily subsidized, I'd be surprised if the additional cost was more than a couple of dollars/pounds/whatever. Bottom line is that you're just paying for the device whichever route you take.
Also consider how long android has been out, it is definitely the quickest maturing mobile platform around. Anyone remember the state wm was in at this age?
Edit: I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!
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mrbishi said:
The cost of a non open source operating system on a phone is going to be so heavily subsidized, I'd be surprised if the additional cost was more than a couple of dollars/pounds/whatever. Bottom line is that you're just paying for the device whichever route you take.
Also consider how long android has been out, it is definitely the quickest maturing mobile platform around. Anyone remember the state wm was in at this age?
Edit: I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!
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Well said, I see and understand your point, thanks.

mrbishi said:
I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!
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First off, that's a toaster I want.
Second off, you're absolutely right. It's not about the money, it's about taking your phone to the next level and being able to say you were the one who got it there first. I and thousands of others have nothing but respect for these developers and a lot of us give them both props and donations for their work. I'm sure the donations are nice, but I doubt there are many devs on XDA who started writing ROMs and compiling kernels because they thought it would make them rich.
Don't understate the motivational power of random people coming into your thread to say "Your work is awesome, keep it up, and how cool would it be if it did this too?" For some people the respect is all they need, since genuine respect can't be bought, it can only be earned.

chelsea19 said:
And another person is born that we all would have been better of without.
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Wow, someone is either grumpy or cant take a joke...
You'd expect to pay money for a computer with no OS wouldnt you...
Well the same goes in this case my guessing.
Id rather have 1000's of people thanking me for my work than a few £100 in the bank if i was a dev....

chelsea19 said:
Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.
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WOW. if you think unions are the answer, you have bigger problems than just android.

OMG guys I was scrolling and I thought I saw Llama's picture. ='[

Original Android <3ers! said:
OMG guys I was scrolling and I thought I saw Llama's picture. ='[
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Lol..same here

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This is for all the sports fans out there! The website www.atdhe.net and www.firstrow.net have been shutdown by ICE(homeland security) for infringement, but just wanted to let all of you know that atdhe has already put out a new website - www.atdhe.me - Enjoy all your sports needs! =)

omninut said:
this is for all the sports fans out there! The website www.atdhe.net and www.firstrow.net have been shutdown by ice(homeland security) for infringement, but just wanted to let all of you know that atdhe has already put out a new website - www.atdhe.me - enjoy all your sports needs! =)
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no one cares!!!

blader3759 said:
no one cares!!!
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Uhh... I care.
Still, good to know, OP, even if no one really does care..
Thanks!

Ooooo! Intresting. Thanks!!

channelsurfing.net also got taken down but changed to channelsurfing.eu

There is nothing wrong with VIEWING sites right?
The screen at atdhe looks intimidating.

Its a great place to watch free ppv ufc fights.
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s15274n said:
There is nothing wrong with VIEWING sites right?
The screen at atdhe looks intimidating.
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Well, I've been watching all my Lakers home games and some ufc fights on atdhe for a long time - no problems. It does look abit sketchy I have to admit, but I took a leap of faith and it's worked out for me for a few months so I can't complain! Quality isn't great but it's a pretty popular website to get access to certain sporting events.

MikeDo said:
channelsurfing.net also got taken down but changed to channelsurfing.eu
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Actually it's channelsurf.eu.

A little bit off topic but why does homeland security shutdown websites for copyright infringement? You would think they would leave that type of work to the fbi or something while they worry about more seriois things like actual homeland security..
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probably more like the FCC would take care of this kind of action.

benifactor said:
A little bit off topic but why does homeland security shutdown websites for copyright infringement? You would think they would leave that type of work to the fbi or something while they worry about more seriois things like actual homeland security..
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Because it's all terrorism now, don't you know? It's terrorism! They're winning! Take down your website which funds terrorism! Terrorism! AH!!!
The terrorists did win after all... and many are still blind to it.

haha, awesome. i watch the poker channel all the time
thanks for the links guys

It's because they don't want OBL to be able to stream the Super Bowl in his cave.

Just a heads up everyone about atdhe.me.
That seems to be a fake site not run by the original atdhe people.
http://atdhenet.tv/ seems to be the real site, it has the same formatting as the original. It also has a warning about fake atdhe sites.

agee said:
Just a heads up everyone about atdhe.me.
That seems to be a fake site not run by the original atdhe people.
http://atdhenet.tv/ seems to be the real site, it has the same formatting as the original. It also has a warning about fake atdhe sites.
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Hmm. Interesting...I guess that's the real website, cause it is the same format as the old website. atdhe.me seemed to work pretty good for me too but I think I'll try out atdhenet.tv. Thanks for the update with that link!

OmniNut said:
Hmm. Interesting...I guess that's the real website, cause it is the same format as the old website. atdhe.me seemed to work pretty good for me too but I think I'll try out atdhenet.tv. Thanks for the update with that link!
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Off topic,
OmniNut, I didn't know you're a Lakers fan. How they do vs Rockets? POed me when they lost to the Celts.
Btw, Firstrow is back on, but when you go to their site, it re directs you to another site, different ones every visit. But lately they've been redirecting you to a soccer.tv or something. Anyways, gave fun!
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Mehh.. that celtics game was dissapointing but yeah they beat the rockets 114-106 in it.
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blader3759 said:
no one cares!!!
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It's actually a perfect example of a Flash Video website that I can watch on my Vibrant that my friends with iPhones can't watch.
So yeah, I think a few people would care about that. Maybe not trolling children like yourself, I see.

OmniNut said:
Mehh.. that celtics game was dissapointing but yeah they beat the rockets 114-106 in it.
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Yeah it was. Theeeeyyy were being lazy. Kobe had big numbers, yet again, but, combination of the rest, shoot, I would make ALL THOSE.
Pissed me off. I was ready to bust out my custom Lakers ensemble and fly down on my private helicopter to the Staples and get in the court ...

Confused about what to do.

Hello, I am a junior in high school and I am not sure what I want to be yet. I was thinking of something in the computer science field, but maybe something more particular to smartphones. I have no resources at my school because they don't offer any of these types of classes. I'm planning on going to college right out of high school so can anybody point me in the right direction?
And btw if there is somewhere else I might be able to get better answers please tell me
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All I can say is wait. As a highschooler looking at colleges I can tell you that I still have no clue as to exactly what I want to do. Most colleges don't even require you to declare your major immediately, so you can see what your options are, dab your feet in some of them, and then declare. Junior High is way to early to worry about it. Go have fun and enjoy your childhood.

No I'm an JUNIOR in high school lol
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bradleyG said:
I was thinking of something in the computer science field, but maybe something more particular to smartphones.
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im on IT engineer and android presentations are hold fairly often , havent jumped in yet tho cuz my java class will only start next semester
imo ull be cool with something more general and then go towards phones

My bad dude haha. I'd still wait it out some though. Go for something big and than narrow it down. I wouldn't get to specific especially if you want to go the grad school later because that limits options you may otherwise have enjoyed.

Thanks to everyone so far! Does anybody know where I can get a good read on the basics of this kind of stuff?
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Start here:
http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/hello-world.html

sakai4eva said:
Start here:
http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/hello-world.html
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you still need java skills

souljaboy said:
you still need java skills
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I find that I learn best when I dive headlong into the subject and experiment, hence the copy pasta

souljaboy said:
you still need java skills
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So should I start by learning Java? I really have to foundation to start from.
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bradleyG said:
So should I start by learning Java? I really have to foundation to start from.
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well its never too early , anything you know before the actual class will be worth gold once the real thing starts
there are nice absolute spoonfed tutorials on youtube on just about any lang ull need , and theyre surprisingly good

souljaboy said:
well its never too early , anything you know before the actual class will be worth gold once the real thing starts
there are nice absolute spoonfed tutorials on youtube on just about any lang ull need , and theyre surprisingly good
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+9000 for that. YouTube can be used for learning.
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Screenshot ER on 3.2

Hi guys! If you remember, my app Screenshot ER was the first to work on honeycomb. If not, its in the signature.
Could all you lucky champs with 3.2 let me know if its still working please?

it works beautifully on 2.0.1 manta ray with kernel Tachi.
Still great job no matter what update for OS comes around

Cool. Are you using SER or SER 2?

1.0.8 that is

need root for this?
edit: never mind, just read your sig.

Yep... needs root. But if youre on this forum, you should know that restoring your device to vanilla is just as easy as rooting!

Works fine on Tiamat 2.1 (3.2 base).
[sER2]

Ive just checked (finally) and it works fine! Dunno why people are sending me error reports...

doesn't matter, 3.2 on Tiamat has screen shot app built in

Yep - but it sucks... this is a real screenshot app with cool features!

I'll pass, good luck

Whats your problem buddy? You just clocking up a post count with all those opinions?
Must be - im a dev here with lots of current threads and Ive only managed 1700 in the same time as you. And of course i spent most of that time making cool apps. You it seems were just trolling around because noone listens to you in the real world. ..
Hope to never see the like of you in one of my threads again. Fat chance, i know.

Internet gangsta haha, don't quit your day job

Typical. Spout some nervous nonsense and run with your tail between your legs. Schmuck.

Haha, some one didn't get their snack pack. Sorry this is all you have, good luck with it. Maybe next year you can go to band camp
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Typical. Spout some nervous nonsense and run with your tail between your legs. Schmuck.
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Don't worry you can can tell all your dungeons and dragons friend how tough you were. But back to reality where you trim my landscaping haha

I you implying that im poor and by extension inferior?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12138188&postcount=3
ftgg99 said:
The app will always be available for free from XDA, it is our gift to the community.
A beta is currently being tested by everyone in the office, and the app itself will be posted here in the next few hours, after we put some basic icons together and make sure it actually works
Stay tuned, all your screen capture needs will be met within a few hours!
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Yeah... so you dont get to bottom feed any more and actually have to pay for something that use use. If youre such a smart guy, why dont you go make something that becomes successful and then not cash in on it? You can be content with watching thousands of people download it and never even clicking the thanks button.
Oh wait - you cant.

ftgg99 said:
Yeah... so you dont get to bottom feed any more and actually have to pay for something that use use. If youre such a smart guy, why dont you go make something that becomes successful and then not cash in on it? You can be content with watching thousands of people download it and never even clicking the thanks button.
Oh wait - you cant.
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Sorry to disappoint but I do pay for apps on both my EVO 3D and Xoom. You said your app would ALWAYS be free to XDA members but went back on your word, that was bad enough. Now you're here spamming the forum, thats disgraceful. On the 2nd page is your last thread that was closed on Aug 4th, now you opened another thread the very next day which offers nothing that could have gone in the other thread? Oh yeah, and there's another thread in the Android Paid Apps section which was also closed.
I support devs verbally and through my wallet, but your behavior is pretty distasteful. I'm not looking for a fight, nor am I slamming your app, but I think the way you do business may hurt you more than freeloaders. Another factor may be people realize there are free apps that suit them just as well and don't have to worry about buying an app only to find it pulled from the market for some unexplained reason and have to get the other pay version.
Think of this as constructive criticism.