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so i followed this battery fix after installing the new radio. i kinda freaked out because my first call was a trippy expierience, and every radio update ive done has been perfect. i feel i have to report back with a much better diagnosis as an apology
would you consider the best battery fix? also, a question about the fix.
when i get the force close, my radio turns off. it eventually turns back on, but my 3G doesnt come back again, unless i screw with the settings (on, then off again) or a loooong time after. is this expected? ive also noticed that when i do do the fix, and my signal comes back, i renter the command and when i get the force close it is still on GSM. is this normal, what should i expect.
im diagnosing the battery all day and will report back, but will start the eperiment over if im screwing it up, like i think i am, it still being on gsm when retested.
also, my friends eris (who is still on 1.5) and when he talks on the phone, the screen blacks out as expected, but it turns back on when its taken away from his face. does our do this?
tsmia
mountaindont said:
also, my friends eris (who is still on 1.5) and when he talks on the phone, the screen blacks out as expected, but it turns back on when its taken away from his face. does our do this?
tsmia
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i think thats the proximity sensor and the hero dosent have one.
so why make a new thread why cant you ask where you got the fix from no need to clutter up the forums with these threads
1st. I've never had any problems with 3G not turning back on. Try using Curvefish's 3G/2G toggle from the market and see what that outputs.
2nd. Yes, that's normal. For some reason, when the radio service is (re)started, it defaults to GSM auto (prl).
3rd. Proximity sensor app from the market. Closest thing the Hero can get. Make sure Auto-Backlight is on.
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1st. I've never had any problems with 3G not turning back on. Try using Curvefish's 3G/2G toggle from the market and see what that outputs.
2nd. Yes, that's normal. For some reason, when the radio service is (re)started, it defaults to GSM auto (prl).
3rd. Proximity sensor app from the market. Closest thing the Hero can get. Make sure Auto-Backlight is on.
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stsl
thanks for speedy response
but if my radio dflts back to gsm after radio reboot, wouldnt it be set back after radio turns onafter applying the fix?
thanks for app recomendato, it works geat!
mountaindont said:
stsl
thanks for speedy response
but if my radio dflts back to gsm after radio reboot, wouldnt it be set back after radio turns onafter applying the fix?
thanks for app recomendato, it works geat!
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It's not actually re-starting the radio service afaik, but just re-applying the setting. During which it registers no signal, as it's mode is changing.
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but if my radio dflts back to gsm after radio reboot, wouldnt it be set back after radio turns onafter applying the fix?
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The phone will reset to the GSM option every time you go in and make it force close like that whether it was set correctly or not before looking at it. The only way to know if your phone isn't set right is if your Time Without a Signal (TWS) (Settings>About Phone>Battery>Battery Use>Cell Standby) is sitting right at 50%. After setting it to CDMA, you should notice the TWS start to drop down right away. If your TWS is much lower than that, or doesn't show on the screen at all then the phone is set up right and you don't need to worry about it.
This is a guide of how I have managed to massively extend my battery-life on the Optimus 2x. I personally use instant messaging like whatsapp and talk, and everybody should where possible, so I don't believe in turning off data during the day to save battery (sms is so 1999)! This are my recommendations to tune your battery-life from unacceptable to at least acceptable times (1 workday with quite high usage).
Items found to work especially well on the Optimus 2x P990
Use WiFi whenever you can, but disable when there are no networks you can join
- 3G seems to be by far the biggest drainer of battery-life, and WiFi idle seems to consume very, very little power. Make sure WiFi is *not* disabled when the screen turns off. Make sure to switch it off when you're not able to use a WiFi network however, to stop it scanning.
Set Network-Type to GSM (auto)
- Use the default dialer and select *#*#4636#*#*, select phone information and select GSM auto (PRL). Still allows for hsdpa data, not the maximum highest speed, but still quick enough for usage and extend battery life of some networks massively. If you want to be even more agressive, turn it to 2g only, but I find this too slow for casual surfing or internet usage, but if you only need it for instant messaging it should be good enough.
Disable gestures and orientation sensing
- Disable the specific gestures in the gestures menu and disable orientation by the button on the notification bar. Spare parts detects minutes of activity of the sensors during normal usage where it's not actually needed, so simply disable it when not using it from the notification bar (which is easy to do without switching apps anyway).
Make ABSOLUTELY sure your RIL matches your baseband
This is crucial. Without a matching RIL file (lge-ril.so in /system/lib) is ok, otherwise you will have a massive drain and problems with networks disconnecting all the time. Use LG GetRIl in the market to fix this if you cannot do it manually.
Check if your MicroSD card is detected when installed!
- I have issues sometimes with my MicroSD card being plugged in but not deteced, which causes my MicroSD card to become very hot, and my battery to empty in 3/4 hours completely. Reboot or remove and reinstall when it happens. Generally try to keep your phone keep as cool as possible, hot temperatures will decrease your battery-life.
Conventional and standard items for Android phones:
Check partial-wake usage in Spare Parts to find fauly apps!
- Check once in a while if there are any dodgy apps keeping your phone awake, causing your idle power consumption to be pretty bad!
Discharge your phone in a pattern of 100% to 20% and recharge
- Keeping cycles like this where possible, especially just after resetting battery statistics or installing a new rom, will eventually mean your battery will stay better for a longer period and you will notice your battery-life should be ok.
Make sure the minimum number of apps are running as services
- Go to Applications, Active services and find which unused apps you can disable.
Turn off Wireless Network Location if you are not using it
- Go to Location and Security, and disable use wireless networks.
Make sure not to use a task killer, especially not with automatic killing
- Sometime a taskkiller can be good to stop a app that hangs or causes issues, but make sure to not make it a default practice. To optimize battery usage, please tune the min/max of free memory managed by Android subsystem itself. Download Minfreemanager from the market, and set empty app to 96mb and content provider to 64mb and make it stick after reboots. This should make sure your phone will not slow down after a while of usage and enough inactive/idle apps are closed in the background.
Set Facebook / Twitter sync to once every 2 hours or more
- Make sure you don't let your phone sync that often, better to update it manually when you want to see it instead of syncing that often. Especially with Twitter having push now your direct messages will still turn up instantly even with slow synctimes for non-direct messages.
Watch out with Picasa sync
- Great feature, but dangerous since if it decides to start syncing when you are not on WiFi with bad reception, since it will mean it will sync potentially for a long time, destroying battery-life unexpectedly. There should be an option to sync this only on 80%+ battery only on WiFi but there isn't any, unfortunately.
Disable Google Latitude in Maps if not used
- If you need a longer battery-life, make sure you tell Latitude in Google Maps to not update your location (also see the point of network location), and make sure you sign out of it as well (so it doesn't update in the background if you are not using it).
I will update this and looking for good suggestions, please let me know especially about network-type GSM auto (PRL) and if it makes the same huge difference on your side. Also, another note, I am using 0405 baseband since I find best battery-life bundled with the RIL from a Vodafone Spain 0405 RIL as shared here.
Good luck improving your battery-life!
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I will update this and looking for good suggestions, please let me know especially about network-type GSM auto (PRL) and if it makes the same huge difference on your side.
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Im trying it out, but just an observation, the setting goes back to WCDMA prefered when you reboot the phone. Any way to make it stick?
Just shut down the phone and restarted and setting has not returned to WCDMA preferred on mcr fr19 but stayed on GSM auto (prl).
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I think that if you tick 2G only on and off again it will go back to WCDMA Preferred.
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I think that if you tick 2G only on and off again it will go back to WCDMA Preferred.
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mine definitely does not stick and i havent toggled 2G or anything else...
Thanks for the advice, seems to have done the trick for me. There seems to be very little speed difference with GSM auto set, I'm sure the improvement in battery life will compensate for the decrease in speed
Just restarted the phone and the network was reset to wcdma preferred
However good tutorial
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Make sure not to use a task killer, especially not with automatic killing
- Sometime a taskkiller can be good to stop a app that hangs or causes issues, but make sure to not make it a default practice. To optimize battery usage, please tune the min/max of free memory managed by Android subsystem itself. Download Minfreemanager from the market, and set empty app to 96mb and content provider to 64mb and make it stick after reboots. This should make sure your phone will not slow down after a while of usage and enough inactive/idle apps are closed in the background.
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It's not saving. Goes back to old values.
Click on menu button and choose save and apply at reboot.
Not sure why the wcdma settings keep being restored for others. Are you guys using cm7 or stock/mcr?
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Click on menu button and choose save and apply at reboot.
Not sure why the wcdma settings keep being restored for others. Are you guys using cm7 or stock/mcr?
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CM7 (Well MIUI, but it's based on CM7). It's very annoying.
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Click on menu button and choose save and apply at reboot.
Not sure why the wcdma settings keep being restored for others. Are you guys using cm7 or stock/mcr?
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CM7 (Well MIUI, but it's based on CM7). It's very annoying.
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For the ones having the problem that wcdma settings keep being restored, just enble 2g radio only first, from the wireless menu. Later repeat the indicated steps and reboot. Did the trick for me.
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For the ones having the problem that wcdma settings keep being restored, just enble 2g radio only first, from the wireless menu. Later repeat the indicated steps and reboot. Did the trick for me.
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sounds excellent! hope somebody can come back with any input on GSM auto (PRL) experiences, for me it really improved battery-life with a couple of hours.
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[*]Make ABSOLUTELY sure your RIL matches your baseband
This is crucial. Without a matching RIL file (lge-ril.so in /system/lib) is ok, otherwise you will have a massive drain and problems with networks disconnecting all the time. Use LG GetRIl in the market to fix this if you cannot do it manually.
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I agree with you in all points - except for this one! I could not believe it myself but it has turned out that I get the best battery life on my O2x using this combination:
- MoDaCo FR19
- Baseband 0530
- RIL 0622
Baseband 0622, which is actually recommended for FR19, was horrible for me regarding battery life! I was surprised to see this non-matching combination provide a far better experience! Also, no problems with connectivity or call quality whatsoever. I'm on Vodafone Germany, for what it's worth.
Interesting. Do you see any dialer wake in spare parts at all? I notice I recently got android system playing up quite a lot, no idea what is causing it :-(
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Yes, I see the Dialer show up in Partial Wake Usage. It's on first or second place, but the blue bar is not very long though, maybe 3-4 mm.
Dialer usage seems to increase after 3-4 days of uptime, strangely...
This was missed in the original post so let me add my two cents worth.
To save even more battery, I would as well, advise paying some attention to screen brightness and wallpaper/theme selection.
In my experience, you can save 20 to 30 mAh by turning off Auto Brightness and setting it to something lower. The auto brightness control in O2X is overly bright and dismal in its operation. It barely changes in response to varying light conditions.
For this, you need an automation app called Tasker, or something similar. I use Tasker to control all manner of things including all the network situations mentioned in the first post of this thread. For saving battery in relation to screen brightness, I use Tasker to set screen brightness to 70 during the day, and to turn it down to 50 during the night. You can adjust these to your own preferences. But, as mentioned above, running these values saves me about 20 to 30 mAh of power when the screen is on.
In general, selecting darker wallpapers and themes will also help you save some power. Many messaging and email apps, for example, will give you a choice of a dark or light theme. If they do, I always choose a dark theme to ensure minimal power consumption.
My two cents worth
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This was missed in the original post so let me add my two cents worth.
To save even more battery, I would as well, advise paying some attention to screen brightness and wallpaper/theme selection.
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Not a bad point, thanks. I am using a low manual brightness, is there maybe a brightness bar widget so you can tune it manuallly directly from a homescreen? That would be great.
And of course you must be crazy to use live wallpapers. Why would you want to make your battery last shorter and your homescreen slower and more annoying to look at?
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Not a bad point, thanks. I am using a low manual brightness, is there maybe a brightness bar widget so you can tune it manuallly directly from a homescreen? That would be great.
And of course you must be crazy to use live wallpapers. Why would you want to make your battery last shorter and your homescreen slower and more annoying to look at?
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Yeah, good additional point that I missed about the live-wallpapers
I use a small app called Quick Settings which installs in the pull-down notification screen to quickly adjust screen brightness if I need to override the auto settings I set in Tasker.
PS. You might want to update your first post with the info about controlling screen brightness since many users are ignorant of the default auto-brightness setting, AND your post is very useful and I see it being referred to as a solution quite often. I was made aware of this thread from way over at Modaco. Good work!
Hope the moderators will stick this thread to the top of the forum.
I thought dark wallpapers are more needed for devices with amoled displays. 2x has got a lcd am i right?
Dont know if it that important for it then...
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Yeah, good additional point that I missed about the live-wallpapers
PS. You might want to update your first post with the info about controlling screen brightness since many users are ignorant of the default auto-brightness setting, AND your post is very useful and I see it being referred to as a solution quite often. I was made aware of this thread from way over at Modaco. Good work!
Hope the moderators will stick this thread to the top of the forum.
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I will update it soon. Where did you see it referenced on MoDaCo?
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I thought dark wallpapers are more needed for devices with amoled displays. 2x has got a lcd am i right?
Dont know if it that important for it then...
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Yes, correct. But nobody said we should use one in this topic, we only discussed live wallpapers
Ever since upgrading to ATT ICS, my WiFi and Mobile Data connections both are turned on during the night. During the day, I don't run either. When I am at home, I use WiFi and then turn WiFi off and plug in the charger before I sleep. When I wake up in the morning, WiFi and Mobile Data are turned ON. This happens constantly for me.
The second thing I tried was not putting the phone on the charger for the night. Come the next morning, WiFi is ON but Mobile Data remained off.
Something is triggering WiFi and Mobile Data to automatically turn on. I can't seem to find the setting that is allowing this to happen.
With GB, I never had this issue. If I recall correctly, GB had a setting for the sleep period of the phone. I don't remember much else of what was adjustable in that menu and I can't remember if I set anything in there for GB and data. I cannot find anything remotely like that in ICS. ICS is bloody annoying me right now with these quirks.
I wish I could downgrade back to GB right now so I don't have to deal with data turning on during the course of the night.......
If you want to go back to gb look under the development tab for return to GB from ics. It's down a ways. Not sure what to tell you about the other issues but to try and reflash ics.
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Try Airplane Mode
Sounds like you have some app trying to make a connection to run an update. It's turning on WiFi and/or the Mobile Data connections. I'll check mine tonight to see what happens.
Try turning on the Airplane mode when you go to bed. Hold down the power button and select the Airplane Mode option. If that doesn't keep the radios off, something is really wrong.
I sometimes use the Airplane mode at night to conserve the battery, but since you're charging, that's not an issue.
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If you want to go back to gb look under the development tab for return to GB from ics. It's down a ways. Not sure what to tell you about the other issues but to try and reflash ics.
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I found the thread. Thanks. I just need to read about unlocking the bootloader now before proceeding. The only downside of downgrading is I will lose the ICS radio which is giving me such good signal strength. Before in my room at home, I would get 1 bar, now I get 2 or 3. LULz.
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Sounds like you have some app trying to make a connection to run an update. It's turning on WiFi and/or the Mobile Data connections. I'll check mine tonight to see what happens.
Try turning on the Airplane mode when you go to bed. Hold down the power button and select the Airplane Mode option. If that doesn't keep the radios off, something is really wrong.
I sometimes use the Airplane mode at night to conserve the battery, but since you're charging, that's not an issue.
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This happened since day 1 of upgrading to ICS. The only software that I installed were some games and utilities that I had on GB. I never had an issue with either data connection turning on.
I might try another flash of ICS but that would mean running it for a night without the downloaded software for a couple nights and then installing each one by one, night by night.
I can use airplane mode but not for long term. I need to be able to receive calls from work when issues arise during the 2nd and 3rd shifts.
This only happens at night. It never happens during the day which makes me believe something is happening during the phone sleep time. And there's no setting that I can find for the phone sleep time like GB. Grr.....
Why not just leave data on if u don't mind me asking. Can't be using that much data really
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Yep I have the same issue.
I have observed the data icon appear on the stroke of midnight. It takes three attempts to keep it off till the next time I use it, or when the damn thing turns back on at 23:59:59.
Spoke to HTC support, they advised to return it to retailer for them to examine it....WTF...lol
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Paul
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Yep I have the same issue.
I have observed the data icon appear on the stroke of midnight. It takes three attempts to keep it off till the next time I use it, or when the damn thing turns back on at 23:59:59.
Spoke to HTC support, they advised to return it to retailer for them to examine it....WTF...lol
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Paul
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We have two threads on this issue of WiFi and/or Data turning on at midnight. When I first found the missing voice dialer problem, I e-mailed HTC support. They responded to my e-mail and then a member of their escalation team called me. They recognize that this is an ICS upgrade issue. Of course, they don't know when it will be fixed.
If you have not already done so, log into HTC.com, go to Support and send an e-mail describing the problem. They need as much feedback as we can give them to get HTC and/or Google to fix these problems.
I am not surprised that the ICS upgrade broke some things, but the number of things surprises me.
Check your setting. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
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Check your setting. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
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Doesn't help.
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Too bad. I noticed mine came on the first night after I installed ICS. Took awhile to find the settings I posted. When I found the settings and clicked on the one in the picture I never noticed Wi-Fi come on on its own since.
So I finally got around to trying Airplane mode. WiFi still kicks on overnight while plugged in.
vivid x2 - I had that checked to "Never" and I still have WiFi and Mobile Data coming on at night.
brucegil & FPV-GT - I will submit a support email ticket. I'm surprised there aren't more of us on here that are having this issue.
syrkel - I don't want either WiFi or Mobile Data on. If I'm not using it, why have it activated? All I need during the night is 2G voice so I can respond to work issues that may arise.
Just throwing another thing to look into. Try to reset the data counter and check it every few hours to see what apps are using the wi-fi data? Some of the apps even allow you to access the app settings from there as well. Check some of the app permissions and try disabling a few apps at a time that allow changes to wi-fi settings.
what a coincidence. i was just jacking around on my phone in class and found the advanced wifi option and there is a setting to keep wifi on during sleep. it has three options: always, only when plugged in, and never. hope this helps
Try installing a juice defender. It turns off data when your screen is off automatically. Also, (maybe only in the paid versions) you can set a night schedule for it to disable connectivity for a set time automatically. I have mine disable all data connections and go to silent mode from 12:30 to 8:30.
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what a coincidence. i was just jacking around on my phone in class and found the advanced wifi option and there is a setting to keep wifi on during sleep. it has three options: always, only when plugged in, and never. hope this helps
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I tested this last night. Before I went to bed, I turned off WiFi (Data remained on). On the WiFi advanced settings I had the Keep Wi-Fi on During Sleep setting to "Always," which is the opposite of what people here have mentioned. I plugged in the charger. However, I have my Vivid set to remain on while on the charger. So it technically never went to sleep. (Makes a nice night light.) At 2:30 a.m. when I woke up, the WiFi was not on.
Tonight I will keep the same settings, but I will not put it on the charger (I'm testing the 3400 mAh Mugen extended battery). I will see if the WiFi comes on during the night.
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Ever since upgrading to ATT ICS, my WiFi and Mobile Data connections both are turned on during the night. During the day, I don't run either. When I am at home, I use WiFi and then turn WiFi off and plug in the charger before I sleep. When I wake up in the morning, WiFi and Mobile Data are turned ON. This happens constantly for me.
The second thing I tried was not putting the phone on the charger for the night. Come the next morning, WiFi is ON but Mobile Data remained off.
Something is triggering WiFi and Mobile Data to automatically turn on. I can't seem to find the setting that is allowing this to happen.
With GB, I never had this issue. If I recall correctly, GB had a setting for the sleep period of the phone. I don't remember much else of what was adjustable in that menu and I can't remember if I set anything in there for GB and data. I cannot find anything remotely like that in ICS. ICS is bloody annoying me right now with these quirks.
I wish I could downgrade back to GB right now so I don't have to deal with data turning on during the course of the night.......
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I wonder if this is part of Googles data collection. I have gone through 3 vivid phones in the last 2 weeks (long story). I have seen this problem happen with no apps other than what came with the phone. My wifes phone (another vivid) does the same thing. If the phone is turned off for the night, turning the phone back on has the same results (mobile data is on). This seems to be a random problem.
When you allow Google's locaton service part of the message says that you are allowing Google to collect data even when no apps are running.
Just a thought.
I've been trying to figure out what's causing it...see my last couple posts here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589724
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Ive been having an issue with my WiFi randomly turning itself on. Ill turn it off to save battery, then check it 30-60 minutes later and its turned itself back on. Ive scanned through other threads and most people say that its from dock mode and to go into dock mode, then go to the settings and disable "auto connect to wifi". I dont have a dock and have never had it in dock mode, but I manually went into dock mode to check check the settings and I dont even have that option in the settings menu. I didnt seem to have the problem (or at least didnt notice it) until after I upgraded to ICS using the OTA update. Is there just a setting that Ive overlooked someplace where I can fix the problem, an app thats got permission to do it that I didnt know about, or is it just a bug thats baked into ICS? Btw, my phone is Locked, Stock, and Unrooted.
Noticed this yesterday on rumfloat4 as well
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I have the same frustrating issue, locked and stock here, upgraded to ICS with the RUU. Sometimes it will stay off for several hours, sometimes not even an hour. I haven't been able to pinpoint which app is causing this.
I believe that it maybe an ICS issue.
I have done a complete factory reset on the phone three times, and network and wifi turn on at exactly midnight.
SO far spoken to HTC customer support.....lol
They advised me yo take back to retailer and let them examine it...wtf???
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Paul
Check your Wi-Fi settings. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
Hope this helps.
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Check your Wi-Fi settings. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
Hope this helps.
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Doesn't do a thing.
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Too bad. I noticed mine came on the first night after I installed ICS. Took awhile to find the settings I posted. When I found the settings and clicked on the one in the picture I never noticed Wi-Fi come on on its own since.
I am curious how ICS determines "sleep". Is it phone sleep of human sleep? I also wonder if it is somewhat tied into automatic time settings. Say for instance you lose your signal during sleep, does ICS re-set the time and that triggers Wi-Fi turning on based on going setting the phone into a different time zone momentarily?
Just throwing a couple things out there in hopes it helps to solve the mystery.
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Too bad. I noticed mine came on the first night after I installed ICS. Took awhile to find the settings I posted. When I found the settings and clicked on the one in the picture I never noticed Wi-Fi come on on its own since.
I am curious how ICS determines "sleep". Is it phone sleep of human sleep? I also wonder if it is somewhat tied into automatic time settings. Say for instance you lose your signal during sleep, does ICS re-set the time and that triggers Wi-Fi turning on based on going setting the phone into a different time zone momentarily?
Just throwing a couple things out there in hopes it helps to solve the mystery.
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I believe in later versions of GB, there was a distinct sleep setting that was separate from simply turning off the screen after a certain amount of time. As far as I can see, ICS did away with this and just sets the phone to sleep after a certain amount of time, which inherently turns off the screen.
Is this happening on new phones as well as refurbished ones? Whatever the problem is, its becoming annoying enough for me to return this phone and keep my Inspire.
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Yep, GB did have sleep time settings. That's why I was curious as to how ICS determines sleep.
Look at the permissions on HTC Sync. They're pretty intrusive as far as Wi-Fi settings. It may be worthwhile to go into each app and trying to force stopping each one one at a time that changes the Wi-Fi state at will.
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Something else you can try is to go into the usage counter and clear the data from the wi-fi tab. Don't use Wi-Fi for a period of time then check if there was any usage and if there was it would be listed which apps used the data and how much they used. Some apps even allow you to access the settings from there as well.
Juice Defender or similar apps should be able to keep it off when you want it off.
The Airplane Mode also should keep WiFi turned off (as well as data) as long as you don't need to take phone calls while you sleep. Not to mention, it saves on the battery if you're not charging at night.
if anyone still interest on this , i found the solution !
on ics you go to:
settings
WLAN
Advanced
WLAN frequency band
and uncheck the auto set radio to use only 2.4 or 5gh
thats all
After searching extensively on the whole Nexus 6 signal debacle. I've gotten some observations and studies to share and a couple questions.
I recently obtained a Nexus 6, which I already knew had the ! no data connection problem. (I tried to help the previous owner with the issue before, calls/texts would work, but data wouldn't) They were naturally on T-Mobile, so I assume it was related to the project Fi launch. Googling the issue recently states mostly T-Mobile and Sprint users having the issue, so I decided eh can't pass up a good deal! A like-new Nexus 6 for only $70, who can resist? I figured even if I get the no data issue, I can just turn on airplane mode, use as a mini-tab.
Here's where it gets interesting: I use Cricket (which is AT&T of course), popping the sim in results in good signal, LTE, etc as expected. Randomly (sometimes within 2 minutes) instead of the "!" on service problem, it drops to No Service completely. A reboot and it comes back fine, this wouldn't be too much of an issue except it happens EVERY 2-10 minutes. The only way to get it back is a reboot, airplane mode toggle doesn't help.
Which leads into the second part of the conundrum: Airplane mode doesn't help.
I figured I might just keep it in airplane mode and use as a tablet... The phone said no, Was fully charged before going to bed, by morning 17%. In airplane mode no less, which is of course is abnormal. Looking into it, it seems the phone never went into Deep Sleep, which I immediately delved into the cause. At this time I was running CM13 latest nightly, naturally I went for a fresh stock flash... Same issue. I even stock flashed to 5.0.0 and the same issue... Looks like hardware, but the randomness is the confusing part and you'd think if it was hardware a simple reboot wouldn't fix.
The phone never slept because when it would "No service" on me, I'd get wakelocks for "msm_hsic_host" which would keep the phone awake EVEN IN AIRPLANE MODE, which also in the battery settings showed the red bar for "bad" signal. This happens with AND without a sim, airplane mode or not. I'm currently on Pure Nexus and Franco's kernel to disable hsic wakelocks, and I'm seeing another one for "qcril_pre_client_init" when the issue happens. Which would be the Qualcomm radio interface layer, by the name, I'm assuming android is trying to turn on the radio and keeping the phone awake. This shouldn't happen in airplane mode, I've also tried "Toggle Cell Radio 5.0" to directly turn off the cell radio; Issue remains.
The randomness of when it happens, how it's "resolved" by a simple reboot, and the fact that airplane mode has zero effect on when it happens basically cripples it as a tablet as well, it never sleeps so the battery life is pretty crap (about 18%/hour screen off). After a reboot the thing is great as long as the thing has signal, runs cold, great life, charges fast, sleeps deep. Befuddled that it still does it without a sim card and airplane mode...
My question to the users here: If anyone else has any insight on this, and if anyone knows how to completely disable the cellular interface and literally turn it into a tablet. Is there any rom or such that doesn't try to wake/use the cellular radio and keep the thing awake.
EDIT: Yes, I've run the factory images from google, 5.0.0, 6.0, and 6.0.1 during testing.
The sim card is new, I've already changed it.
Yes the device is actually an XT1103, not a knockoff.
Sorry if any of this information wasn't clear enough.
Further Observations:
During the night I had zero reboots (It's setup to reboot on signal loss, so from here reboot == signal loss), then after taking it off of charge and turning the screen off, then back on after about 5 seconds the signal was lost and it rebooted.
This got me thinking, so on the way to work, I streamed music and had zero problems, not on the charger. After reaching work, I moved some offline music onto my phone and it acted fine as well. The phone never reboots if the screen is kept on as well.
This tells me it's something about how android switches to low-power on the cellular radio. Perhaps the radio cannot wake up properly from the low-voltage sleep state.
tl;dr
When phone is 'active' and not sleeping, problem doesn't arise.
Acts normal with screen off: Streaming music, Regular music, Plugged in.
Acts normal with screen on always.
If doing nothing and phone sleeps: reboots, usually on wake up (i.e. turning screen on to check time)
Likely issue with sleeping/low-power to the cellular radio.
Current bad "solution" play music with phone muted.
However, this doesn't seem to be too bad an impact on battery life, music player has used a total of 1% in the last two hours, screen is top again, where it was android os.
EDIT: Went all day without dropping signal by keeping music playing muted. At 52% after about 12 hours, 3 hours screen on, an hour VOIP call, wifi on the entire time. Not the best solution, but it's livable.
Further testing: I've tried a couple "keep awake" apps that set wakelocks and they do not seem to help, but this might be that they are not designed for marshmallow.
I've also "unoptimized" anything related to phone/cellular in the battery settings to prevent doze from sleeping them, no effect, double the apps directly hit the radio.
first off, first thing that I would do is fastboot flash the latest 6.0.1 factory image(then root it). as the issue sounds like a software problem. if it is, this would fix it. if it still is broken, then I'd root it for sure, then disable the cellular connectivity issue with my root access. without root, you are stuck with airplane mode, only.
simms22 said:
first off, first thing that I would do is fastboot flash the latest 6.0.1 factory image(then root it). as the issue sounds like a software problem. if it is, this would fix it. if it still is broken, then I'd root it for sure, then disable the cellular connectivity issue with my root access. without root, you are stuck with airplane mode, only.
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I mentioned that I stock flashed... I tried 6.0.1 and even 5.0.0... Also I'm on a custom rom + kernel, so I kiiiinda have root access as well. I don't mean to sound uppity or anything, but did you even read my entire post? If you have a way to completely disable the cellular radio, by all means share. Only other thing I can think of to try tomorrow when I get time is to flash an incompatible baseband, but I can see it causing the same issue with I/O problems.
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I mentioned that I stock flashed... I tried 6.0.1 and even 5.0.0... Also I'm on a custom rom + kernel, so I kiiiinda have root access as well. I don't mean to sound uppity or anything, but did you even read my entire post? If you have a way to completely disable the cellular radio, by all means share. Only other thing I can think of to try tomorrow when I get time is to flash an incompatible baseband, but I can see it causing the same issue with I/O problems.
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By saying what you did that doesnt say if you went completely stock with the google images or some of the roms floating around. There is something in the background trying to force the device to connect to cell netowork. I would completely erase the device and make sure to format everything with the flash all bat file. You will ose everything on the device.
Also could be a lose connection in the hardware.
zelendel said:
By saying what you did that doesnt say if you went completely stock with the google images or some of the roms floating around. There is something in the background trying to force the device to connect to cell netowork. I would completely erase the device and make sure to format everything with the flash all bat file. You will ose everything on the device.
Also could be a lose connection in the hardware.
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When I said stock, I meant the factory images from google... I've completely wiped the device several times. I'm not new to the entire process... That's why in my original post I stated possible hardware, but curious as to why it does it even in airplane mode when it shouldn't poll the cell radio at all. Further testing seems to say that disabling location access (I generally use battery saver, gps only for navigation), it holds signal longer. Potentially something wrong with how the system requests location.
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I mentioned that I stock flashed... I tried 6.0.1 and even 5.0.0... Also I'm on a custom rom + kernel, so I kiiiinda have root access as well. I don't mean to sound uppity or anything, but did you even read my entire post? If you have a way to completely disable the cellular radio, by all means share. Only other thing I can think of to try tomorrow when I get time is to flash an incompatible baseband, but I can see it causing the same issue with I/O problems.
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like was said, kinda sounded like you flashed a stockish kinda ROM. if not factory image, I recommend it.
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When I said stock, I meant the factory images from google... I've completely wiped the device several times. I'm not new to the entire process... That's why in my original post I stated possible hardware, but curious as to why it does it even in airplane mode when it shouldn't poll the cell radio at all. Further testing seems to say that disabling location access (I generally use battery saver, gps only for navigation), it holds signal longer. Potentially something wrong with how the system requests location.
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Are you sure it is a legit device? I have seen some knock offs have this issue.
You know we are all kinda dumb here. Myself included.
Run a logcat and see what is trying to connect.
zelendel said:
Are you sure it is a legit device? I have seen some knock offs have this issue.
You know we are all kinda dumb here. Myself included.
Run a logcat and see what is trying to connect.
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Yes it is a legit device directly from tmobile. I'll do more testing tomorrow.
Maybe try a new sim card,only thing I can't think of
holeindalip said:
Maybe try a new sim card,only thing I can't think of
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Already got a new sim, updated info in original post.
Attached a screen with battery info, from testing it's pretty accurate.
After implementing my "solution" for a couple days, it seems to sleep fine now without losing signal. Remember, I have tasker setup to reboot on signal loss so this is informative that it actually sleeps now...
Was the phone ever wet? The signal loss is common on my Nexus, as with my previous, always have missed calls etc, got a voicemail but no missed call notification. However it doesn't really describe the radio issue your describing. I'm almost certain the mother board is malfunctioning. The radio turns to low power mode in doze, but never returns to full power state. Seems to me that it's a communication issue from the motherboard. Neat idea for your "solution".
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Jnewell05 said:
Was the phone ever wet? The signal loss is common on my Nexus, as with my previous, always have missed calls etc, got a voicemail but no missed call notification. However it doesn't really describe the radio issue your describing. I'm almost certain the mother board is malfunctioning. The radio turns to low power mode in doze, but never returns to full power state. Seems to me that it's a communication issue from the motherboard. Neat idea for your "solution".
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Phone has never been wet or suffered any trauma such as a drop or high temps. It's an odd little thing.
Try flashing a different modem?
dcrews said:
Try flashing a different modem?
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I have, I think it's a hardware problem where the modem can't wake up from low power state similar to some cpus unable to wake if set too low.
Seemingly a breakthrough
Did a few more things and testing and I seem to have gotten onto something. I've attached screenshots showing just over 3 hours deep sleep and included battery info page. As a recap I couldn't get 10 seconds of deep sleep before tasker would wakeup the phone because it lost signal, then wait 30 seconds before rebooting it to get signal again, unless I was playing music (which kept the phone awake and thus never lost signal). You may notice on the upper left the carrier symbol, I'm on Project Fi and using Signal Spy to show which carrier I'm currently on. After doing my tests today it swaps carriers fine without ever completely dropping the radio and requiring a reboot to regain signal.
I'll do more tests and see how long, if it does to act up. If I seem to have actually found a real solution, I'll post what I did to resolve the issue just incase any other Nexus 6 users are experiencing problems.
Edit: Small note worth mentioning, wifi seems more stable as well. I'm able to keep AndroIRC connected with the screen off whereas I was having issues with it disconnecting randomly. This MAY just be due to something else, but still noting it here.