Have heard various less than positive reports on the battery life of the two devices in the thread title & just wanted to hear from user experience, especially people swapping from the HD2 to the HD7, if it had better battery life?
I moved over from a HD2. I'd say the battery life is roughly the same if not slightly better on the HD7.
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I moved over from a HD2. I'd say the battery life is roughly the same if not slightly better on the HD7.
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I would agree
I can't comment on the HD2 but one thing I would say is to not be put off by the initial HD7 battery performance. Mine has improved dramatically over the last few days.
i will say i was a lil worried at first as it was great for first 2 charges then it dropped really bad ie lost half the battery over night with no use, BUT, now it has sorted itself out the battery lasts really well. I get way more use than i did on my desire i mean way more like i would say 50% more. With all top end phones battery isnt going to be there strong point but i think wp7 is really good on this point esp as you don't have stupid apps running in the background draining it like on android.
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i will say i was a lil worried at first as it was great for first 2 charges then it dropped really bad ie lost half the battery over night with no use, BUT, now it has sorted itself out the battery lasts really well. I get way more use than i did on my desire i mean way more like i would say 50% more. With all top end phones battery isnt going to be there strong point but i think wp7 is really good on this point esp as you don't have stupid apps running in the background draining it like on android.
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Well that's what used to bug me about the Android devices that I have had, that the battery performance was less than great. This was especially noticeable on the X10 I had for a little while.
It depends on how you use it, my usage the battery doesn't survive the same sort of punishment my Desire does, my usage is mainly as a internet device on 3g, and compared to the Desire it really does drain the battery, as a mp3 player it'll probably piss all over the desire for battery usage, I'd take stock of how you use your phone and plan accordingly.
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It depends on how you use it, my usage the battery doesn't survive the same sort of punishment my Desire does, my usage is mainly as a internet device on 3g, and compared to the Desire it really does drain the battery, as a mp3 player it'll probably piss all over the desire for battery usage, I'd take stock of how you use your phone and plan accordingly.
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Like you I am a fairly heavy web user on any device I have so if this particular activity effects the battery life on the HD7 a lot then that's not so good!
Way better than the HD2, and unlike the HD2 it seems to be even drain the whole time, unlike the HD2 which seems to get to 10% left and within a few mins be at 0. I made a good 10-20 mins of phone calls on my HD7 when it said battery is critcally low and it didnt turn off even after the calls.
I had just gotten my HD7 2 days ago, but my battery sucks big time... Its almost like it is leaking badly that during a meeting, I was just messing with the marketplace and the windows live messenger, my battery dropped from about 50% to almost 0 (for the first charge). After second and third charge with lower average use, it still able to last me for a day (8.30am to 8.00pm). Lets hope its like what you guys said, need to stabilize the battery after a few charges. By the way, my HD2 is able to withstand almost 2-3 days in WM6.5, and about a day use for Android Desire HD OS (about 35% upon reaching 11pm from 8.30am).
My battery life sucks big time. If it is in standby it loses 5% battery per 2 hours for no reason, i already disabled the updates from microsoft and my email and calander syncs every hour. And when i'm on internet or marketplace my battery drops 50% in 1 hour. I have charged it know 4-5 times, I hope it will be better. I only charge the battery when it's on critical level.
Poor Battery Life
The battery drained very fast, less than a day with heavy used.
Another bad thing is, took more than 3 hours to fully charged.
No indicator to show the %, very difficult to monitor the usage.
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My battery life sucks big time. If it is in standby it loses 5% battery per 2 hours for no reason, i already disabled the updates from microsoft and my email and calander syncs every hour. And when i'm on internet or marketplace my battery drops 50% in 1 hour. I have charged it know 4-5 times, I hope it will be better. I only charge the battery when it's on critical level.
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You mentioned "5%" "50%" . . . .
How you get the % to show? or You just estimate.
I think Roaming has a big effect on Battery Life.
My battery has been fine, Awesome Battery life... Until I went to uni, I can get no T-Mobile signal in lecture halls so it roams to Orange, this seemed to kill my battery a lot halfway through the day the battery indicator was less than half full.
I switched roaming off. But I found something interesting, once again marketplace wouldn't open. (it always happens when I'm scrolling en clicking things very fast in the marketplace). So I had to restart my hd7. The battery was 10%, after the restart it was filled for 40% very strange.
How do you know you are connected to the internet?
Is there a way to see and stop the connection since that also takes lotof battery and ofcourse if you are on a limited plan that would call for a huge dent on the bills
So far, after 2 days, battery life has improved greatly since the first day. Much better than most smartphones I have used, and certainly way better than my current Evo even after using it for months. I suspect battery life will only get better as I break it in.
And yes, weak signals can cause significant battery drain regardless of what device you are using. The weaker the signal, the harder the phone tries to find or keep that signal.
Has anyone tested to see how badly the battery life is impacted by changing the brightness setting to high?
I was checking this phone out, and found that changing that setting really made a significant difference in the quality of the user experience... it didn't seem washed-out, like it does on the default setting. I'm just wondering how much of a beating the battery will take though.
Right now, I'm really leaning towards the Dell Venue... primarily because of the quality of the screen and the better battery. I don't care about the physical keyboard, so an HD7 might meet my needs if I can run it at full brightness.
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OK, I know battery life is always an issue with PDA phones. I'm never far from a charger. I'm fine as long as I'm just checking e-mail (4 accounts, once an hour) and a little light web surfing with Opera Mini.
The problem arises when I use my phone as...well...a phone.
My Tilt loses battery power at an alarming rate when I'm talking on the phone. A 20 minute conversation will easily cost me 40% of my battery.
I'm usually in a non-3G area, so I'm on Edge. I normally have a good, strong 4-bar signal. Even when I'm in a 3G area, I use a different comm manager to turn off 3G to conserve power. I use KaiserTweak and select all the "Advised" settings in the power-related sections.
I've tried several different radios, but haven't noticed an improvement.
Does anyone have any ideas or recommendations on improving the efficiency of my Tilt in phone mode?
I have the same problem.
I have 3 batteries. 2 Samsungs and 1 Dynapak. Each battery lasts about 3 hours in standby. The phone is always warm as well. I have a utility that shows the phone is running around 380mAh current. That's seems pretty high.
I think theres something seriously wrong with certain batches of these phones.
these phones r seriously poor for battery life.. i love the htc but they slowly being overttaken by other phones.. shame!
maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 gay of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 gay of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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Really??
So, what battery are you using? Which ROM? Which radio?
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maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 day of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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Me too used to get about 2 days with a 2700 that is being registered correctly, i now tell everyone to not phone me "well they don't listen just like no one does" so i block all incoming calls with MagiCall, to what point do i have a phone now? To flash & twaek and text
"Am kinda joking but my stylus is now half the size due to this topic"
Buy a new battery.
I don't dig long phone calls unless there is something going on. Too many people just want to hang out on the phone and say nothing.
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Buy a new battery.
I don't dig long phone calls unless there is something going on. Too many people just want to hang out on the phone and say nothing.
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Mine is a new battery Have to say same about people talking about nothing.
"The loss of battery was due to phonecall and radio i'm not moaning either i expect the battery life to not be perfect on any WM phone"
Well yeah radio version help too.
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mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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This isn't my first foray into these HTC devices. I've been using them for nearly 2 years now, and I know the battery life on these devices isn't what it is on something like my old RAZR. I'm just fine with that; since the Tilt does so much more, I don't expect the charge to last a week like my RAZR did. But this drain while using the phone is driving me nuts.
FYI, I know to keep WiFi and GPS off, and to use KaiserTweak to shut down data connections when they're not being used. If I don't use the phone or surf, the battery will easily last me 2 days, and that's with checking 4 e-mail accounts every hour, and with SBSH PocketWeather getting updates every 2 hours. But talk on the phone, and it's a different story. I talked to my wife for about 30 minutes last night and went from 80% to 20% battery level.
The battery is only about 7-8 months old. Still, I ordered a new 1600ma battery last week, and it should be here in a day or two. I'm hoping that solves the problem.
It's possible that the battery you have now is under warranty. (if you bought the phone new)
good luck.
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It's possible that the battery you have now is under warranty. (if you bought the phone new)
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Unfortunately, it was a refurb, and the warranty expired a long time ago. The new battery wasn't exactly a budget killer.
Well my battery seems to be working now.
Phone is no longer hot all the time, and my utility says I'm using between 1 and 64 mA. That's much better than the 350+ mA it was sucking before.
I didn't do a damn thing different either. Didn't change any settings for the radios, didn't reflash, etc..
Some people think that the GPS get's stuck in the "on" position and there's no way to turn it off, short of opening and closing GPS Aware programs repeatedly until your current usage drops in the sub 100 mA range.
Always discharge your battery fully as possible at least 1 a week to ensure your battery last longer, lots of charges above the threshold will diminish your batteries life and capacity. The Kaiser is a powerful device and it is obvious to anyone that this requires power to run it, so the battery wont last for days. :-(
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Always discharge your battery fully as possible at least 1 a week to ensure your battery last longer, lots of charges above the threshold will diminish your batteries life and capacity. The Kaiser is a powerful device and it is obvious to anyone that this requires power to run it, so the battery wont last for days. :-(
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HUH???????
These are Lithium batteries, we aren't in the 90's anymore buddy.. My phone lasts for at least 2 days and sometimes 3 (the phone is over a year old too)..
Welcome to the year 2009
"1. Battery Memory - When I first got my new cellphone, my friend recommended to fully drain the battery before recharging it. His reasoning was connected to the idea of battery memory. Allowing the battery to fully discharge then recharging to max, supposedly gives you the complete battery capacity. Otherwise, if you simply charged from the half way point to max battery capacity, the battery would treat the half way point as the empty point, thus cutting your battery capacity in half.
Problem is battery memory doesn’t apply to Lithium batteries, this advice was meant for Nickel based batteries. Fully discharging your Lithium battery frequently can actually be quite harmful to your battery’s health, possibly rendering it completely unusable if energy levels go too low.
The good news is today’s lithium batteries have a safety circuit in place to insure the battery doesn’t reach the point of no return. The safety circuit isn’t fool proof of course, if you leave your battery completely drained for a few days, even the circuit’s protective measures won’t save it.
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INFACT it's recommended to leave a little bit of a charge before charging or storing.
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Be that as it may, when you get a new battery you still have to use it for a few weeks before the phone reports battery levels accurately. The phone may still shut down when WM thinks it's almost empty, regardless if it's actually empty or not. Just try it, battery life improves over the first few weeks of usage, and your battery level readings will get more stable (instead of dropping to 50% in 10 minutes and then proceeding to stay there for 6 hours).
BTW my kaiser lasts about 3 days as well, with fairly heavy usage.
No fair, I want a bazillion stars next to my name too.
I Think this guy has had the phone and battery for a little while, so the few weeks thing might not be an option. (well at least the battery he was posting about)
HUH???????
These are Lithium batteries, we aren't in the 90's anymore buddy.. My phone lasts for at least 2 days and sometimes 3 (the phone is over a year old too)..
Welcome to the year 2009
"1. Battery Memory - When I first got my new cellphone, my friend recommended to fully drain the battery before recharging it. His reasoning was connected to the idea of battery memory. Allowing the battery to fully discharge then recharging to max, supposedly gives you the complete battery capacity. Otherwise, if you simply charged from the half way point to max battery capacity, the battery would treat the half way point as the empty point, thus cutting your battery capacity in half.
Problem is battery memory doesn’t apply to Lithium batteries, this advice was meant for Nickel based batteries. Fully discharging your Lithium battery frequently can actually be quite harmful to your battery’s health, possibly rendering it completely unusable if energy levels go too low.
The good news is today’s lithium batteries have a safety circuit in place to insure the battery doesn’t reach the point of no return. The safety circuit isn’t fool proof of course, if you leave your battery completely drained for a few days, even the circuit’s protective measures won’t save it.
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INFACT it's recommended to leave a little bit of a charge before charging or storing.
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As refered to your reply, i didnt mean discharge fully completely i meant the cut off point would stop you anyhow, i meant to bring it to about 10%, i found that using the battery until it reaches 10-12% far by decreases battery drain when it is fully charged again, this is only 1 in a while though not frequently. I understand lithuim-ion doesnt have a memory effect problem, but there is such thing as variable current influencing different cells which can either benefit or make it worst, there is a lot of debate as to whether this improves it or not.
Great tip, keep it cool and away from your pocket pants because heat kills it.
Dude thats no fun to keep it out of your pocket,
hey guys, hows your battery doing with heavy usage ?
and whats the idle power draw with screen off? because desire s has 20 mah... thats not exatcly right.. should be 6-7 mah tops imo.
Yup, power draw shows most on the display on mine too. Wonder why, but the battery life is kinda good though.
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Yup, power draw shows most on the display on mine too. Wonder why, but the battery life is kinda good though.
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well tbh that wasnt exatcly the question. its kind of obvious the display uses most power
but how long does it last on lets say heavy usage ? and the other thing- what is the power draw with the screen OFF ? in mah
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well tbh that wasnt exatcly the question. its kind of obvious the display uses most power
but how long does it last on lets say heavy usage ? and the other thing- what is the power draw with the screen OFF ? in mah
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Had a couple of boring days at work, and managed to take at least 80% of the battery life in a 8 hour day with moderate to heavy use.
Not as good as the iphone 4 I had before, but better than the Desire, Galaxy S etc... decent but not mindblowing battery life.
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I think the battery is consumed by heavy programs or let's say programs consume battery like Live Wallpaper.
Live Wallpapers consume a lot of battery that many experts say don't use it if you don't want it.
I didn't buy the phone yet but I will after two weeks.
For more battery tips and programms running in the background also see topic:
Battery Consumption from jkolner. 5-1-11
Nameit's Incredible S using XDA Premium App. Netherlands, T-Mobile
Gladly reporting that the battery life on the IS is extremely satisfactory considering the display and other capabilities.
Got the phone a couple of days back, the first day i charged fully.
The usual setting up of the phone, bluetooth transfers, internet via 3g & wi-fi, gaming, and of course the regualr calls & sms.
The battery lasted me over 13 hours.. still had 14% when i decided to charge again.
now with the usage a little lesser that the excitement has gone down a tad bit, the battery is really efficient.
close to a day (maybe more) with above average usage.
btw, also noticed the battery usage does not seem to vary much with the usage of any task killers
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Gladly reporting that the battery life on the IS is extremely satisfactory considering the display and other capabilities.
Got the phone a couple of days back, the first day i charged fully.
The usual setting up of the phone, bluetooth transfers, internet via 3g & wi-fi, gaming, and of course the regualr calls & sms.
The battery lasted me over 13 hours.. still had 14% when i decided to charge again.
now with the usage a little lesser that the excitement has gone down a tad bit, the battery is really efficient.
close to a day (maybe more) with above average usage.
btw, also noticed the battery usage does not seem to vary much with the usage of any task killers
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cool +10
My battery life so far has been pretty good, my old iphone used to die mid/late afternoon with the sort of usage I put my IS through yesterday (first charge)
Went to work around 8 am, checking emails and facebook every 30 minutes aswell as texting on and off all day. Watched movies and listened to music through lunch hour, downloaded apps. Continued the same as the morning through the afternoon.
Got home and was on it constantly (ebuddy, doubletwist, facebook, market) from 5 till around midnight when it finally died.
Very happy with it.
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My battery life so far has been pretty good, my old iphone used to die mid/late afternoon with the sort of usage I put my IS through yesterday (first charge)
Went to work around 8 am, checking emails and facebook every 30 minutes aswell as texting on and off all day. Watched movies and listened to music through lunch hour, downloaded apps. Continued the same as the morning through the afternoon.
Got home and was on it constantly (ebuddy, doubletwist, facebook, market) from 5 till around midnight when it finally died.
Very happy with it.
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and lol ! if you did all that on the first charge of the phone ... you do know that the battery life increases significantly after a few weeks of usage ?
To those who own the phone, I want to know any battery life statistics you can provide.
I am very interested in this phone as it has that amazing keyboard, a nice 4" QHD screen, and it at least seems plausible there will be roms available at some point. But battery life I am not sure about, all the reviews I have read don't hit too hard on the battery life and I want someone to tell me heavy details about the battery life.
On a side note, if anyone can compare their D3 to this that would be great. I currently own a Droid Incredible, it is running MIUI, I have brightness set to 15-35% max, I have 3G turned off with Wifi on (as I live on a college campus with lots of wifi). On Easy to Moderate usage, I wouldn't have to charge for 2-3 days, On Medium to Heavy usage I end the day with at least 15%. With those same settings could I expect that from the Droid 3? (if so I would be extremely happy as I am very pleased with the Dinc battery life but I definitely need a keyboard.)
thank you for any help!
-Brett
I know the people who successfully had used the bloat removal script apparently get great battery, didn't work for me. But, depends what you consider heavy and moderate I guess. I usually charge once before leaving from work (I like to have more than 50% battery) I think I'm down to about 30% usually towards the end of my shifts playing music from my phone, txting a lot, browsing facebook and some forums.
It works decently when I'm off work tho cuz I txt and browse less.
Battery life is much improved if you listen to those running the leaked OS which the rest of us are waiting for "soon". Currently, battery life is disappointing. The battery life with light usage is erratic, some nights, just sitting on my desk, its drained to 20% from a full charge in 10-12 hours. Other nights, its at 80%. I gave up trying to figure it out.
I'm coming from a Droid X and the D3 is getting at least 35% less battery life for the same usage. My numbers aren't scientific, but I know I'm usually at 30% with the DX by 4pm; with the D3 I'm usually at 15% by 2pm. Both are using the Motorola extended battery.
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Battery life is much improved if you listen to those running the leaked OS which the rest of us are waiting for "soon". Currently, battery life is disappointing. The battery life with light usage is erratic, some nights, just sitting on my desk, its drained to 20% from a full charge in 10-12 hours. Other nights, its at 80%. I gave up trying to figure it out.
I'm coming from a Droid X and the D3 is getting at least 35% less battery life for the same usage. My numbers aren't scientific, but I know I'm usually at 30% with the DX by 4pm; with the D3 I'm usually at 15% by 2pm. Both are using the Motorola extended battery.
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Comparing apples and oranges will always be disappointing.
This phone has better battery life than any other phone I've owned since 1999 -- AFTER the update! Note that I do not consider simple hours-to-dead measurements, but how much I use the device. I think that for a dual-core, large-screen, keyboard, 3G device, its efficiency is excellent. Anyone who thinks the D3 has poor battery life has not owned an HTC or Samsung device lately
Before the update.. about 8-14hours of battery life. With the update, easily 2+ days and I use it quite a bit.
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I can confirm that the battery life is drastically increased with the new OTA update. After about 9 hours of usage of occational web browsing, listening to music, and making a few calls, the battery only drained by 40% on the extended battery pack.
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Anyone who thinks the D3 has poor battery life has not owned an HTC or Samsung device lately
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Sorry Dude but my incred2 running Miui and or OMFGB SMOKES this D3 with the new OS leak with battery life..Smokes it.......
I missed a charge over the weekend (charger not plugged into wall) and by the end of the second day on the battery I still had 49% charge left.
Make sure you get the extended battery.
Inc2
Yeah my dad has an inc2.....the battery life is pretty remarkable. My d3 just doesn't last as long haha
Before I purchased my Droid 3, I took the heed of several and also got the extended battery.
Now I use mine for business purposes, so I do not use any social applications. Just Exchange, Gmail, and one POP3 account. All set for Push. Probably on the phone 30-60 minutes a day. I have the Exchange data turned off at night as I use Touchdown for this and it lets me set my schedule.
I charge it when I it gets down to around 20 %, That is normally after three days of use. That's been pretty consistent since the first week I had it which has been at least a month ago.
Still Stock..... Of course YMMV....
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I can confirm that the battery life is drastically increased with the new OTA update. After about 9 hours of usage of occational web browsing, listening to music, and making a few calls, the battery only drained by 40% on the extended battery pack.
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Do you have a Bell branded XT860 or are you running with Verizon Droid3? I am wondering because my XT860's extended battery is a little rough (barely gets through an entire day) and was wondering if Bell released an update for that phone. Note I'm on Rogers, so I'm not sure if that would make a difference on me getting OTA updates.
Comparing a single-core phone with a 3.7" screen to a dual-core phone with a 4" display is not apples to apples to begin with. Throw in a FULLY debloated and optimized ROM(miui) with a custom kernal on a single core 3.7" phone is more like grapes to watermelons.
With the standard battery I can take the phone off the charger when I wake up and get through the day no problem. I am simply rooted with all the bloat frozen with TiBu.
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
The HTC one isn't the best phone when it comes to standby time but still,I find battery life to be pretty good, super easy to get through a work day. Maybe you have an app that is running in the background and draining your battery. Install betterbatterystats and try monitoring your apps. That's all I can think of. Also take a look at the battery stats thread and see if folks can help you there.
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I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
peterg21 said:
As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
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Wow thanks. I was starting to wonder what crazy app I downloaded. Forgot I was messing with settings. Lo and behold that option was checked. I didn't have it checked when ibfirst got this phone and had awesome batt life.
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I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage.
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Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
Edit:Just got an update for Whatsapp (and Facebook and Skype all at once), let's hope it fixes the battery drain.....
Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
godutch said:
Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
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Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
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Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
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I only undervolted by 50mV in Aroma. Maybe I should set it back at standard?
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tiny4579 said:
Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
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I bought a packet inspector and found it causes a lot of wake ups, like every minute or so....
Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
I whatsapp and check Twitter news apps sometime a game.
And i can do easy 12 hours max 17 with this usage .
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I was just thinking of the good battery performance I've been getting from the handset so far funnily enough.
I think it's been very good after only a couple of days with it.
Been using it moderately to heavy and it's held up pretty well. Over 13 hours now. Maybe it's certain apps u are using that's giving u problems with high drainage.
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Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
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Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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What are your sync values set at for all your accounts...anything constantly updating will drain battery quickly
25% battery used for 1hr screen on time and 11hrs of standby
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I got mine FIXED !
I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
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I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I know that but mine was like 48 C at the peak when its hot which is very uncomfortable to hold that's why I said overheat. Anyway now its fixed and I don't have any complaints.
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Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Also be sure to not use screen lock sounds or input sounds... the lock sound is the worst. I think it causes a wakelock bug that has been on Android since 4.0
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Today I took my phone off charge at 3.30pm, I'm on 50% with adaptive brightness off. My SOT is 2hrs 10mins, during which I've used WhatsApp, texted, used Chrome, played some music and YouTube videos, and played Temple Run for 20mins. I also have Facebook running, but I haven't used it. It's 7.45pm now, and my phone is at 51% with an estimated time of 5hrs remaining.
So that's 3.5hrs off charge, with about 2hrs SOT time, and I'm on 51%.
Does this sound average for the Nexus 6 or is my battery draining more so than normal?
That sounds way below average. I'm at 49% after 10 hours of heavy use. At least 2 hours internet and 45 min of talk time.
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McRiderGeek said:
That sounds way below average. I'm at 49% after 10 hours of heavy use. At least 2 hours internet and 45 min of talk time.
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I have a super hard time believing that you had 10 hours of heavy use or we think heavy use are two different things.
To OP check out the battery life thread in general, could be a variety of rogue apps that are draining in background. If you don't turn things off I'm not surprised if you get around 4.5 hours of SOT
Is there a way to tell how many hours since charge? I just see that I have 12 hrs left
Yes, that is low in my opinion. On similar usage I typically get 6+ SOT 100% to 15%. Probably 75% WiFi, 25% LTE. Auto brightness.
This is about right. On my 3rd nexus 6 and they all exhibited the same behavior. I'm a heavy user as well and lucky if I get 5 hours sot. I had a short stint with a 6+ where I measured bit one day to give me a freakish 9.5hrs when I got down to 4%. I only hope things would get better for the battery as time passes. This is the perfect phone for me in every way except battery life.
LordGrahf said:
This is about right. On my 3rd nexus 6 and they all exhibited the same behavior. I'm a heavy user as well and lucky if I get 5 hours sot. I had a short stint with a 6+ where I measured bit one day to give me a freakish 9.5hrs when I got down to 4%. I only hope things would get better for the battery as time passes. This is the perfect phone for me in every way except battery life.
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You cant accurately measure SOT on iOS so I have a hard time believing this. I have several friends with the 6+ that barely get through the day here at my university, then again I can't vouch for what they do on their phones.
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You cant accurately measure SOT on iOS so I have a hard time believing this. I have several friends with the 6+ that barely get through the day here at my university, then again I can't vouch for what they do on their phones.
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Believe me, on a holiday break without anything better to do you can easily measure it lol
Its incredible battery wise and may be as a phone if you ca stomache iOs, i couldnt.
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Believe me, on a holiday break without anything better to do you can easily measure it lol
Its incredible battery wise and may be as a phone if you ca stomache iOs, i couldnt.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
This question makes no sense, as every battery thread. Battery is subjective, there is no such thing as "average" battery life. It all depends on how you use your phone and how your phone is set up. Everybody has their own kind of apps, setups, carriers.
The better signal strength you have in terms of carrier cellular data, the better battery you'll have.
Depending on what you do on your phone determines battery life. Yeah you can have 6+ hours SOT, but if you play games or watch videos then your battery life will be different from everybody else. Does that mean you have "poor" battery life? No, you just put your phone to more heavy tasks that consumed more battery life.
The way I see battery life, if I was able to end the day without my phone going down to 0% then it did its job. If I have problems with battery life, I'm only 15 minutes away from a quick Turbo Charge up to ~60% or get a portable charger if you don't have access to a wall outlet.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
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No offense taken at all. Quite the opposite, i completely inderstand where you're coming from. I have doubts myself when someone says they're heavy users on nexus 6 and get 8hrs sot. Everyones usage is pretty unique to them and can shift their sot numbers considerably to either side.
That being said and that i got that out of the way lol, what I meant when i said I had a lot of time on my hand is that i really had a lot of time towaste, that 9.5hrs was spent in one sitting believe or not. Most of it was binging on Netflix and the remainder was browsing on safari. I pretty much use my Nexus 6 the same way where its strictly split between Netflix/yiutube and chrome. Most if it on Wifi.
I didn't install any apps on top of stock in either phone except for google maps on iOS and adaway/titanium/greenify on nexus 6. I use the browser for everything else like facebook etc. And i dont play any games on my phones. May be my sot on the 6+ would've been different if my usage was different, but for my use case and setup the 6+ had the much better battery life.
However i ended up going back to the nexus 6 because its the better phone overall imo. I just need to find a way to improve the battery. I was hoping greenify would help a lot, but it didnt help much so far. My galaxy nexus had horrid battery life BUT the battery was replaceable and that made all the difference in the world, whuch this phone sadly lacks.
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No offense taken at all. Quite the opposite, i completely inderstand where you're coming from. I have doubts myself when someone says they're heavy users on nexus 6 and get 8hrs sot. Everyones usage is pretty unique to them and can shift their sot numbers considerably to either side.
That being said and that i got that out of the way lol, what I meant when i said I had a lot of time on my hand is that i really had a lot of time towaste, that 9.5hrs was spent in one sitting believe or not. Most of it was binging on Netflix and the remainder was browsing on safari. I pretty much use my Nexus 6 the same way where its strictly split between Netflix/yiutube and chrome. Most if it on Wifi.
I didn't install any apps on top of stock in either phone except for google maps on iOS and adaway/titanium/greenify on nexus 6. I use the browser for everything else like facebook etc. And i dont play any games on my phones. May be my sot on the 6+ would've been different if my usage was different, but for my use case and setup the 6+ had the much better battery life.
However i ended up going back to the nexus 6 because its the better phone overall imo. I just need to find a way to improve the battery. I was hoping greenify would help a lot, but it didnt help much so far. My galaxy nexus had horrid battery life BUT the battery was replaceable and that made all the difference in the world, whuch this phone sadly lacks.
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I see, thank you for clarifying your usage. If you want better battery life I recommend trying Franco kernel with Vomer Tweaks. I had 7.5 hours SOT with 25% battery left before I flashed a updated ROM and made a TWRP backup. I could have easily made it to 8.5-9hours SOT, however it was already 2300 and I didn't feel like staring at my screen until 0100 just to see if I could get more SOT. My phone was on all day since 0730 that morning, including time I used Bluetooth for GP music at the gym and some casting to my Nexus Player. Good battery life is possible but as you said everyone is different.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
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I see, thank you for clarifying your usage. If you want better battery life I recommend trying Franco kernel with Vomer Tweaks. I had 7.5 hours SOT with 25% battery left before I flashed a updated ROM and made a TWRP backup. I could have easily made it to 8.5-9hours SOT, however it was already 2300 and I didn't feel like staring at my screen until 0100 just to see if I could get more SOT. My phone was on all day since 0730 that morning, including time I used Bluetooth for GP music at the gym and some casting to my Nexus Player. Good battery life is possible but as you said everyone is different.
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Wow that sounds impressive and really all that i need as sot goes. I'll def read up on how to do it and give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the replies guys.
Okay, so went to bed, phone was at 79% battery. This morning it was about 74% or so. Been on Chrome checking stuff, it's dropped to about 65% in half an hour. Screen brightness is around 30%. WiFi on, half cellular signal. I'm not doing anything intensive. My SoT so far is 1hr 40mins. Standby time is 12hrs.
So tl;dr - dropped 5% over 12hrs on standby, then 9% in half an hour with the screen on at 30% brightness using mainly Chrome.
I guess am just a little concerned in case I have a defective battery or something. I've alrady had one replacement already due to the camera arriving damaged.
What do you guys think?
zingxao said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Okay, so went to bed, phone was at 79% battery. This morning it was about 74% or so. Been on Chrome checking stuff, it's dropped to about 65% in half an hour. Screen brightness is around 30%. WiFi on, half cellular signal. I'm not doing anything intensive. My SoT so far is 1hr 40mins. Standby time is 12hrs.
So tl;dr - dropped 5% over 12hrs on standby, then 9% in half an hour with the screen on at 30% brightness using mainly Chrome.
I guess am just a little concerned in case I have a defective battery or something. I've alrady had one replacement already due to the camera arriving damaged.
What do you guys think?
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Sounds about right. 9% in half an hour would give you 5 hrs SOT, and thats about average.
If you were doing Franko kernel with volmer tweaks that would be low. They do a lot to slow processor down and reduce capability to save battery, but you probably wouldn't be able to tell except for the occasional lag while scrolling a web page.
I get about 3.5-4 hours SOT. Seems fine to me. I don't do anything whatsoever to save battery. I keep the screen brightness how I like it.
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Wow that sounds impressive and really all that i need as sot goes. I'll def read up on how to do it and give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
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Here is mine so far today. The reboot is from when I updated Franco kernel to r4. I used google play music at the gym and Bluetooth in my car driving to and from the gym and store. Battery life can be as good as you want it to be.
Edit: also I was only on WiFi for 40 minutes and LTE the rest of the time