So, I've run into something that is scaring the crap out of me lol. If I turn off and on the phone while it is on the charger, the phone won't turn back on, it gives me the screen that the phone needs to be restored...if it isn't on the charger, all is well...anybody else able to reproduce this?
mine just reboots when you switch it off while on charge, but I charge from the mains, so not sure if its something it does from USB
I actually think my phone is faulty...it doesn't reboot at all...does the restore screen on or off the charger...gotta pull the battery to reboot...
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I actually think my phone is faulty...it doesn't reboot at all...does the restore screen on or off the charger...gotta pull the battery to reboot...
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I would tell your carrier about it and see if they can fix / replace it or find a solution.
I had the device replaced, it was faulty, all good with this one, and its much snappier, that one had some issue. All is great now, amazing phone
I had that happen once. But I let the phone die after buying it. So it didn't really have a charger to do anything. I put the phone into bootloader then pulled the battery. Haven't seen it since.
I had similar. Phone had no batt, so put it on charge (in a 3rd party car charger), and restarted. Showed a blank screen. Tried multiple times, removing the battery for over 30 seconds. I really thought it was bricked.
Put it on the official main charger and left it until fully charged and it worked fine. This happened about a week ago and its been fine since. So there could be a bug, but seems ok.
I think I figured it out, at least on my phone... I found that if I hold down the camera button, even slightly, while im rebooting the phone it will go into the restore screen. Turns out that the skin I have my phone in slightly depresses the camera button, and was causing this issue over and over again. I wonder if the same thing is happening while you guys are plugging in the phone? Anyone care to try it out?
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I think I figured it out, at least on my phone... I found that if I hold down the camera button, even slightly, while im rebooting the phone it will go into the restore screen. Turns out that the skin I have my phone in slightly depresses the camera button, and was causing this issue over and over again. I wonder if the same thing is happening while you guys are plugging in the phone? Anyone care to try it out?
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yea the same thing happened to me. i took the case off the phone and the problem was fixed. NO MOre rebooting problem
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I searched and searched. I was reflashing my AT&T tilt on a tmobile net, using the memory card method. I am not exactly sure what i did wrong. I flashed it once tonight and didnt like it even though it worked fine. I flashed it again and when I did the soft reset I think i took the memory card out to soon. Now the phone will not turn on at all. I love this phone, someone please help a brother out
Hard SPL
If I recall correctly, unless you were flashing the SPL, you just need to re-attempt the flash by engaging Hard SPL again.
It's been forever... but I seem to recall that with Hard SPL, you can always recover, unless you are in the middle of re-writing / overwriting SPL.
Erbid
(Tell us you do have Hard SPL installed.)
I cant get the thing to turn on at all I think I have tried every thing. I have flashed twice before without problem. But it just wont turn on now. I guess what im trying to say is I believe hard spl is on it. I ran boot loader from the phone using camera and soft reset. I accomplished the task once already and loaded the newest hyperdragon and didnt like it so about 10 minuts later i did the same thing and tried to install an old dutty one and the phone will not turn on. I loaded every thing and then reset. I think i may have pulled the memory card to early because i dont remember the phone saying it was clearing storage or coming back on. Sorry if this seems longwinded.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but is the battery fully charged? Try charging for a few hours - check that the charge light is on etc. Normally with a bad flash, even if the phone is completely bricked, you will see something try to light up or go brighter on the screen - unless the battery is dead or the screen ribbon disconnected.
It worries me a bit that you 'think' you have hardspl. Either you do or you don't. The process is simple enough to do but has enough steps that you'd definately remember doing it.
Ok, so I think you are sorta right. I put a fully charged bat into the phone but still nothing coming on. Turns out the old battery was dead though. Strange considering it was being charged all day while in the car. phone still wont turn on. anyone know if there is someone who fixes these?
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Ok, so I think you are sorta right. I put a fully charged bat into the phone but still nothing coming on. Turns out the old battery was dead though. Strange considering it was being charged all day while in the car. phone still wont turn on. anyone know if there is someone who fixes these?
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okay the phone isn't turning on but are there any led's lit up? (red, green, orange??) because that indicates there is still life in the phone and recovery is possible. This can be when you turn it on or on charge etc.
Very unlikely you bricked it. More likely a problem with the battery or charger not charging the battery.
When you plug the charger into the phone does a yellow light appear at the top to indicate the unit is charging? If not you have a faulty charger.
Can you get into the BootLoader screen? Try the following:
> Take you battery, sim card (re-lock the cover after taking it out) and storage card out
> make sure all contacts on the battery are clean and replace it
> Hold the camera button in fully and then press the power button for a few seconds (the Bootloader screen should appear)
If the Bootloader screen comes up then read the 2nd line down which starts SPL and report back with the version.
If no Bootloader screen appears then take the Battery out and plug the charging cable into the phone. Then with the battery still taken out, try to get back into the Bootloader screen by holding the camera button in while pressing the power button.
If that gets you into the Bootloader then then problem is with your battery.
If the phone still does not go into the Bootloader screen the problem is most likely with your charger.
thanx, i have since bought another tilt. I put the old battery in the new tilt and it was dead. I put the fresh battery in the old tilt and nothing yet. I didn't try the bootloader yet. I did try charging the phone on the old battery though and no lights what so ever. even with new battery on charger. I will get back to you on the bootloader trick
Bootloader trick didnt work. Thank you though. Looks as if I now have a parts phone that My wife hates me for.
[email protected] said:
Bootloader trick didnt work. Thank you though. Looks as if I now have a parts phone that My wife hates me for.
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Have you tried the charger from your new tilt in the phone that doesnt work? If you connect the charger then the charging light should come on at the top. If thats not happening but it works on your new tilt then the problem lies in the phone. You can try checking contacts and connections but if you have no life after swapping bits over from your new tilt to the old one then ur pretty much buggered. Can you not send it back as faulty or is it out of warranty?
No warranty. I bought it used. Im on Tmobile. Thank you for everything though. I did try the new charger and got nothing.
After an unfortunate rooting session with my Motorola Milestone, the phone now returns into an "dead" mode. It refuses to start at all. I tried charging it and see if it starts by itself, but it doesn't budge and the little while led doesn't lit. The only time when it lit is when I connect it to the PC. I tried putting in it a new battery, taking out the SD card and SIM, but to no avail. I remember seeing a video where a guy used a dissected USB cable to spark the phone into turning on again, so I take it I'll have to use a "hardware approach"? Please help.
I tried following this guide, though without success. The phone still has that white LED lit when it's connected to the PC.
After a reply on this thread I also made, it might be possible that the battery is charged, but the phone refuses to boot at all. Is there any way to unbrick the phone in this state?
Do you think your device is really BRICKED?
If so, you can try to flash your original sbf file into your phone. Guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696845
If you are using a Linux, google for "sbf_flash".
I agree with my front floor..ermm, u dont need to worry about its 'dead'. just flash original sbf can rescure your phone.
I had the same problem too, but good news is I tried to revive my phone successfully recently, btw your phone is not 'dead', it's just staying in limbo state, the solution is to pull out the battery and don't connect to any usb, don't try to power it up, it must be completely out of power wait about 12 hours, and then try to power your phone, I think there is some capacitors in the phone which retain the phone state, to make it out of power will wipe out it's state, good luck
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I had the same problem too, but good news is I tried to revive my phone successfully recently, btw your phone is not 'dead', it's just staying in limbo state, the solution is to pull out the battery and don't connect to any usb, don't try to power it up, it must be completely out of power wait about 12 hours, and then try to power your phone, I think there is some capacitors in the phone which retain the phone state, to make it out of power will wipe out it's state, good luck
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"My phone is in limbo state... "
That's a pretty cool statement.
From technical view, it might have happened that something caused a kind of deadloop when reading scratchpad SRAM inside OMAP processor.
This SRAM, as well as the internal RTC is powered by a small battery soldered on the mainboard, while the phone is shut down and the battery is taken out.
What you did was, to wait untill this battery became uncharged.
All SRAM and RTC setting as well then gets erased.
Afterwards the CPU will start up with empty scratch SRAM, might be called a "real" cold boot
Normally the phone should not behave like this. Even if SRAM is not valid the phone should boot up...
...but anyway as you observed it like this, it might happen.
@andoruB:
Apart from that, the Milestone is hard to brick in general.
Might happen though, if you do evil things while flashing new firmware.
Especially while flashing bootloaders...
If you got some more information about the things you did, would be helpful!
Good luck anyway!
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After an unfortunate rooting session with my Motorola Milestone, the phone now returns into an "dead" mode. It refuses to start at all. I tried charging it and see if it starts by itself, but it doesn't budge and the little while led doesn't lit. The only time when it lit is when I connect it to the PC. I tried putting in it a new battery, taking out the SD card and SIM, but to no avail. I remember seeing a video where a guy used a dissected USB cable to spark the phone into turning on again, so I take it I'll have to use a "hardware approach"? Please help.
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how did u root it? can u give a more detailed description? and hows ur phone? sometimes, the milestone would just shut off and wont come up if the battery is gone. Try charging it for maybe 2-3 hours, untouched, and see what happens.
Have this exact problem. Was doing a nandroid recover when the phone got stuck. Pulled the battery out. Placed it back in, pressed the power button. Nothing.
Led lights up only when connected to the computer's USB. Battery was charged before Nandroid recover. Used nandroid a lot of times but for some reason, my stone stopped playing nice.
I just removed the battery. Hoping this works. Can someone please post if you got this same issue resolved? I like this phone no matter how slow it goes sometimes. Thanks!
I completely forgot about this thread, sorry guys!
I don't remember exactly what happened, it's been so long... but I do remember I left the phone "inactive" (it's not like i had much of a choice! XD ) for 1 or 2 months, with the battery out. After I got hold of a wall charger, I plugged in the battery, after I plugged in the charger, and what do you know? It worked! It started charging (was 60% charged, fully charged, I unplugged it, but after putting it to charge again just to make sure it was fully loaded before I would flash a new ROM, it was charged up to about 80%, weirdly, so I guess it was a weird battery problem)
I do remember I didn't do anything to it, so I'm not sure what to tell you guys to do, except leave out the battery for a month or so ^^;
This problem started like 3 weeks ago. I locked my phone and left to do some stuff, and when I came back and unlocked it, the phone thought it was being charged. I plugged it to the charger and unplugged it to see if the problem would stop. It didn't. I plugged it in again and left it there for a few minutes, and when I checked, it was discharging. I pulled out the battery and put it back in after a few minutes and the phone turned on by itself. It is worth mentioning that I'm running Carbon 4.4 from NovaFusion, and you may already know that when the phone is plugged to the charger, it reboots if you power it off. When it turned on, it still thought it was being charged. It discharged after a few minutes, and I left it plugged in to charge while off... And when it turned it back on, the problem stopped. After that, sometimes when I plug it to the charger, it won't detect it, I have to reboot the phone for it to start charging.
A few days ago I turned it off with 85% battery left, and when it turned it back on it showed 0%... And now my phone shuts down without warning randomly. It also freezes and reboots when I plug it to the charger sometimes. I've tried changing the ROM, (to golden-guy's Omni and stock), but those problems persist.
That's why I ask, is it a bad battery o a damaged charging port? Thanks in advance.
Forgot to add, sometimes when it freezes and reboots, it freezes on bootanimation and restarts itself again...
Sounds like a bad battery to me, but wait and see what others will say. It may as well be a faulty usb charging port. If it just had random reboots, I could swear that it's the battery, but with the other stuff you said it seems like something inside the port has gone wrong and thinks it's charging when it's not and the opposite. Sorry, but can't help much as I've never had this exact problem (I've had a similar one) so I'm only guessing right now!
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Sounds like a bad battery to me, but wait and see what others will say. It may as well be a faulty usb charging port. If it just had random reboots, I could swear that it's the battery, but with the other stuff you said it seems like something inside the port has gone wrong and thinks it's charging when it's not and the opposite. Sorry, but can't help much as I've never had this exact problem (I've had a similar one) so I'm only guessing right now!
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I forgot to say that it freezes on bootanimation and restarts. Does that bring any clue?
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I forgot to say that it freezes on bootanimation and restarts. Does that bring any clue?
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That's normal when the phone has no battery left (or thinks it doesnt't). There just isn't enough power to boot the phone up, but it knows that there's some little power left so it continues to try booting unsuccesfully, resulting in a bootloop If you leave it to reboot for a few mins it might shutdown permanently. That means the battery has absolutely no power left (or it could think it doesn't, when it has, if it's damaged like yours).
S3 mini charging when unplugged
I bought a phone off ebay and was having the same problem. Random usb driver errors with pc and unable to connect with terminal, Startup loops because phone thinks its on charge etc..
Tried everything to sort it out and failed. Just after I was about to give up and bin the phone, I tried to slightly pry the little plate on the USB port upwards with something non conductive. Ding dong I heard to unplug sound animation and the charging icon disappeared
Had no problem since.
I have encountered a strange phenomenon on my HTC One. I woke up and forgot to charge my phone the previous night, so I went to charge it and after about ten minutes it kept turning on and off with the HTC "quietly brilliant" screen over and over again. There is no LED light to signify a charge, and I am able to get to the bootloader screen (I hope that is what it is called) by pressing the volume down but the phone restarts and won't let me click anything. It will only let me scroll down or up once so I can't get to the factory reset. I've tried many battery tricks such as holding both volume buttons and the power button for two minutes and nothing happened. I plugged it into my computer and the same thing happened.
I tried posting a video but the forum won't let me since I'm a new user!
Hoping someone can help me out! I just want to get my photos back more than anything.
Thanks!
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I have encountered a strange phenomenon on my HTC One. I woke up and forgot to charge my phone the previous night, so I went to charge it and after about ten minutes it kept turning on and off with the HTC "quietly brilliant" screen over and over again. There is no LED light to signify a charge, and I am able to get to the bootloader screen (I hope that is what it is called) by pressing the volume down but the phone restarts and won't let me click anything. It will only let me scroll down or up once so I can't get to the factory reset. I've tried many battery tricks such as holding both volume buttons and the power button for two minutes and nothing happened. I plugged it into my computer and the same thing happened.
I tried posting a video but the forum won't let me since I'm a new user!
Hoping someone can help me out! I just want to get my photos back more than anything.
Thanks!
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Also, I have never rooted the phone or flashed a rom! Everything is stock.
Thanks!
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Also, I have never rooted the phone or flashed a rom! Everything is stock.
Thanks!
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looks like the phone doesnt have enough battery to boot, shut it down and let it charge for 1-2 hours at least. If there is no led when charging, its probably because of a bad cable or charger. You can shut the phone down from bootloader: fastboot ---> power down.
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looks like the phone doesnt have enough battery to boot, shut it down and let it charge for 1-2 hours at least. If there is no led when charging, its probably because of a bad cable or charger. You can shut the phone down from bootloader: fastboot ---> power down.
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Thanks for the quick response! I've switched out the charger to the original stock charger and I'm still having the same problem. The phone will automatically turn itself on after 10-20 mins and go into the boot loop. The other issue is I can't select anything from bootloader because it reboots again. I think the video would be helpful so I might go post on random parts of the forum to get 10 posts.
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Thanks for the quick response! I've switched out the charger to the original stock charger and I'm still having the same problem. The phone will automatically turn itself on after 10-20 mins and go into the boot loop. The other issue is I can't select anything from bootloader because it reboots again. I think the video would be helpful so I might go post on random parts of the forum to get 10 posts.
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is the video on youtube?
alray said:
is the video on youtube?
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Yes, I just sent it to you in a private message. And if anyone else wants it, I can send it to them.
Thanks
esdlax said:
Yes, I just sent it to you in a private message. And if anyone else wants it, I can send it to them.
Thanks
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doesnt looks good mate. Maybe an hardware defect.
Just to be sure, you can power off the phone, if you do it reboots?
Maybe a problem with the power button or the battery...
Sounds to me like a knackered battery, unfortunately, that's one of the down sides of LiPo batteries, when they die they actually still contain 5% charge, if it drops below that, they are pretty much dead and cant really be charged properly again, ive learned this experience from flying radio controlled aircraft, basically, once the power starts dying, land it and charge it, if you push it right to the end, not only do you risk the chance of an expensive crash, but you have also just killed a £70 battery.
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Sounds to me like a knackered battery, unfortunately, that's one of the down sides of LiPo batteries, when they die they actually still contain 5% charge, if it drops below that, they are pretty much dead and cant really be charged properly again, ive learned this experience from flying radio controlled aircraft, basically, once the power starts dying, land it and charge it, if you push it right to the end, not only do you risk the chance of an expensive crash, but you have also just killed a £70 battery.
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Oh man, that means I killed two batteries that day. I was flying my friend's quadcopter and the screen uses a lipo battery, which randomly died and now won't charge Yikes! You live and you learn. Is there anything I can do to "spark" the battery? Or more importantly any way to save my pictures? Thanks for all the replies!
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Oh man, that means I killed two batteries that day. I was flying my friend's quadcopter and the screen uses a lipo battery, which randomly died and now won't charge Yikes! You live and you learn. Is there anything I can do to "spark" the battery? Or more importantly any way to save my pictures? Thanks for all the replies!
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I dont think you'll be able to backup anything with the phone stuck in this bootloop. Probably the battery can be replaced wihout loosing data on the phone.
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doesnt looks good mate. Maybe an hardware defect.
Just to be sure, you can power off the phone, if you do it reboots?
Maybe a problem with the power button or the battery...
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I don't have a choice when the phone powers off, it randomly does it on its own when I'm in bootloader or if its just sitting there. I don't think its the power buttom because I can still press it, so its not jammed or anything. We have insurance on our phones so I can get a new one. I'm just looking to save the data at this point! Thanks for all your help so far!
My phone had been working perfectly fine, as well as charging perfectly fine. Recently, I accidentally let it drop to 0%, which I don't usually do. I went to plug it into the same wall outlet as always, but instead of the usual charge process, the battery icon with the lightning bolt in the middle simply flashes on the screen and then turns off, which happens over and over again.
It should be noted as well that about 3 weeks ago my phone get fairly wet. After that incident, I turned it off till it dried, powered it up, and everything appeared to be totally ok.
Other facts:
-I can safely get into the recovery menu (power + vol down), which is stable, but any menu selections result in the Motorola splash screen for a quick second and then the phone powering down.
-The computer will recognize the connection to the phone.
Attempts to resolve:
-New cable, new usb hub, new wall outlet
-Trickle charge from the computer (same flashing)
-Phone in rice to remove moisture
-Toothbrush cleaning of Micro-usb port (suggestion from another thread)
I'm pulling my hair out, and I am considering prying off the back and replacing the battery. I have searched other threads, but have seen various solutions none of which worked for me. If anybody has any idea how I can fix this please help!!! Thanks in advance.
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My phone had been working perfectly fine, as well as charging perfectly fine. Recently, I accidentally let it drop to 0%, which I don't usually do. I went to plug it into the same wall outlet as always, but instead of the usual charge process, the battery icon with the lightning bolt in the middle simply flashes on the screen and then turns off, which happens over and over again.
It should be noted as well that about 3 weeks ago my phone get fairly wet. After that incident, I turned it off till it dried, powered it up, and everything appeared to be totally ok.
Other facts:
-I can safely get into the recovery menu (power + vol down), which is stable, but any menu selections result in the Motorola splash screen for a quick second and then the phone powering down.
-The computer will recognize the connection to the phone.
Attempts to resolve:
-New cable, new usb hub, new wall outlet
-Trickle charge from the computer (same flashing)
-Phone in rice to remove moisture
-Toothbrush cleaning of Micro-usb port (suggestion from another thread)
I'm pulling my hair out, and I am considering prying off the back and replacing the battery. I have searched other threads, but have seen various solutions none of which worked for me. If anybody has any idea how I can fix this please help!!! Thanks in advance.
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Either there is something wrong with your battery, or there is something wrong with the USB port. If the USB port is the problem, you can use wireless charging instead. I'm a fan of this one, personally: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S7IBDGW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
Also, are you unlocked? If so, what battery percentage does TWRP say?
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Either there is something wrong with your battery, or there is something wrong with the USB port. If the USB port is the problem, you can use wireless charging instead. I'm a fan of this one, personally:
Also, are you unlocked? If so, what battery percentage does TWRP say?
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Thanks for the quick reply. It does seem like a battery problem, however it is just so coincidental that it stopped working after I let the battery drain to 0%, when only hours previously it was in use and charging without any issue at all.
Also, if there was a problem with the micro-usb port, I would think that a computer wouldnt be able to read the phone, but when I plug it in it is recognized as an ADB device.
I have another turbo with a cracked screen, I'm thinking about dissecting both and putting that battery in this phone as a replacement.
And unfortunately I am not unlocked :/.
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Well, after some further experimentation, I've gotten it working again. The solution was to charge it for like 5 hours, then let it sit off charge for an hour, and then it would boot... bizarre combination of actions. It has since dies twice and I've had to use this method.
It is working for now if I don't let the battery drop below like 15%. Seems more like a software or hardware issue to me, and i'm still trying to resolve it, so if anybody has any suggestions please let me know.
Also, what is the best way to re-calibrate the battery, maybe that could help?
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It is working for now if I don't let the battery drop below like 15%. Seems more like a software or hardware issue to me, and i'm still trying to resolve it, so if anybody has any suggestions please let me know.
Also, what is the best way to re-calibrate the battery, maybe that could help?
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If you can't let the battery go below a certain percentage, it might be an early sign of failure. The voltage might drop suddenly and unexpectedly towards the end of discharge, prompting the phone to emergency-shutdown.
As for calibrating the battery...it depends on who you ask. I would say that running it to shutdown (even if shutdown is "15%") and then charging it to 100% should do it, since that gives the controller a full set of data with which to extrapolate a discharge curve. Clear your cache in recovery, so hopefully the OS will pick up on this to accurately track the battery's actual state.
Get Kernel Adiutor or something similar to check your battery's health, too. If there's something obviously badly wrong, it should report something other than "Good".
If you note when your battery dies abruptly and you immediately reboot the back light is very poor. Almost flickering.
I think this is a battery issue of not being able to feed enough amperage.
...however. My phone was doing this and after a full clean reflash it has stopped. I question if this is because I am running less apps now. Or if perhaps somehow the battery managed to lose its memory. (Li ion is an odd duck..)
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If you note when your battery dies abruptly and you immediately reboot the back light is very poor. Almost flickering.
I think this is a battery issue of not being able to feed enough amperage.
...however. My phone was doing this and after a full clean reflash it has stopped. I question if this is because I am running less apps now. Or if perhaps somehow the battery managed to lose its memory. (Li ion is an odd duck..)
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If you can't let the battery go below a certain percentage, it might be an early sign of failure. The voltage might drop suddenly and unexpectedly towards the end of discharge, prompting the phone to emergency-shutdown.
As for calibrating the battery...it depends on who you ask. I would say that running it to shutdown (even if shutdown is "15%") and then charging it to 100% should do it, since that gives the controller a full set of data with which to extrapolate a discharge curve. Clear your cache in recovery, so hopefully the OS will pick up on this to accurately track the battery's actual state.
Get Kernel Adiutor or something similar to check your battery's health, too. If there's something obviously badly wrong, it should report something other than "Good".
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Thanks for the pointers. So strange, first it died at 40%, then 30% then 15%. Now, it is still dying early but I am no longer facing the issue I originally had, it will show normal charging when off, and boots up right away. Sure hope its not some ticking battery time bomb, its still a relatively new refurb.
I attempted the charge calibration so we shall see if it helps. I also did a factory reset for the hell of it, since I am on stock and can't reflash. Perhaps I'm in the clear, that would be awesome. Still no idea what the issue was in the first place though, which will annoy me to no end.