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This may have been addressed, but I've searched and searched. A search of "Activesync" on this forum turns up 17 threads, none of which address this annoyance.
So, is there any way to keep Activesync from randomly starting on the phone, when not actually sync'd? Also, should I even be concerned about it, considering battery drain (activesync running for no reason, possibly draining battery?)
The wife and I both have Tilts, stock roms with a few plug-ins. Her "activesync" seems to turn on more often, for no reason. We've noted that her battery drains faster than mine, though it may be coincidence (both of our devices have essentially the same programs / stuff on them).
It just gets annoying finding Activesync running on the phone when not in use. Can it be set to only come on when needed (actually sync'd), and does it really matter?
Thanks in advance for answers. I swear I've looked guys, I just don't find this addressed here, and I know how annoying it is to answer the same questions over and over.
Yeah, there are at least 2 things that cause Activesync to start automatically. the first obvious one is if you have an Exchange Server account, because it will start to sync with the server. The second is having the Automatic Time Zone update turned on, which is under Settings > Phone > Time Zones. Uncheck the box on that panel and it should stop Activesync from starting (unless there's something else I don't know of that causes it). For what it's worth, I don't think it's that big a battery drain, in comparison to 3G, wifi, GPS, etc. or even just talking on the phone.
Thanks snoogin! We'll try that and see what happens. I know that the time auto update is checked as "on" right now, so that's probably the culprit. I didn't think it would drain the battery that much, but was curious. I'll write back here with my observations on overall battery drain.
Again, thanks!
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I notice my active sync keep running also...i thinking it drained my battery...lol
How does automatic change time zone and clock work? like how does it know where i am at to change??? sorry for the stupid question but just wondering.
len2livewithit, it knows based on your SIM card.
My phone will automatically switch to German time zone when I switch on my cell phone in Munich, same when I come back home.
I think its called GSM SIM data. You can turn it off.
Is it just me or can this phone not do it?
On my iphone if I leave wifi on and turn the screen off, it will connect only when needed using the auto send/receive schedule.
My xperia no matter what i do just wont seem to send receive with auto send/receive set to 5 minutes, wifi enabled, and i turn screen off with power button (or even leave it automatic).
Does it work for anyone else or is this just the way the xperia works? It only sends/receives when it's awake, in which case, pretty stupid,cause i can just do it manually if i'm using it.
I think winmo only sends/receives over a cellular connection while the phone is asleep. Wifi on the other hand is disabled when the phone goes asleep in order to preserve battery life....so no sending or recieving emails over wifi with the device in sleep mode
sonus said:
I think winmo only sends/receives over a cellular connection while the phone is asleep. Wifi on the other hand is disabled when the phone goes asleep in order to preserve battery life....so no sending or recieving emails over wifi with the device in sleep mode
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That's really disappointing, it's a feature I had come to expect, thinking the device could atleast witch it on long enough to sync my email just like the iphone does before switching it off again.
guess my only option is to buy a data plan.
Try Advance config
Bottom right softkey "Menu" --> More Settings --> Connections --> Enable Wi-fi on standby mode
Ashwm said:
Try Advance config
Bottom right softkey "Menu" --> More Settings --> Connections --> Enable Wi-fi on standby mode
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Thanks, I have just tried this, but I see that basically what it does is prevent the wifi from sleeping on standby mode, which is going to kill the wifi I presume in a couple of hours.
I guess it's just not possible for it to do what exactly I wanted it to do which is to connect and disconnect when required, to send and receive, while left switched on and the phone is in standby.
I believe that even when the phone is on and wifi is on I think the normal wifi power save (middle slider position) switches itself off after an idle period to save power when not in use, "on" just means available for use, not necessarily powered up.
I need this too, could someone try a mort-script or something to connect to WiFi automatically and then send/receive emails every desired set hours? Think it is possible..
Well
I tried enabling this (and yes, the wifi stays on while asleep) and putting my power save slider all the way to the right, however, after waiting the set time for my auto send/receive (5 minutes) and infact more, it did not send/receive until the moment I woke it, so I don't know if it was just about to do it, or if waking it caused the update.
i will give it another go and see how it goes, if you say that the wifi does infact just sleep itself when idle it shouldn't harm the battery life too much.
Strange
Ok, after further experimentation, I got it to send/receive my email while sleeping with the mode set for standby wifi enabled, however, with the refresh time setto 5 minutes, it took almost 15 minutes to update.
15 minutes is about the time I want, but will it take more power if I leave it on 5 minutes, or will it take even longer still if i set it to 15 minutes?
I'll try leaving my wifi on for a couple of days and see how it goes.
Try the program rk-OSR. It can connect/disconnect wi-fi automatically only for synchronizing e-mail.
Thanks
maedox said:
Try the program rk-OSR. It can connect/disconnect wi-fi automatically only for synchronizing e-mail.
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Thanks, I'm going to see how it fairs over the next couple of days with the wifi set to work during standby (in terms of battery life) and if that doesn't work out i'll take a look at the app.
I don't know what it is but i just have a phobia of running extra 3rd party software on a phone that can only just about handle itself.
You pretty much have to run 3rd party apps on WinMo. In my opinion it's like using a normal computer with windows without installing any other applications. It's barely usable for anything at all without getting really annoyed.
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You pretty much have to run 3rd party apps on WinMo. In my opinion it's like using a normal computer with windows without installing any other applications. It's barely usable for anything at all without getting really annoyed.
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Yeh, but what annoys me is that my desktop computer is designed with the hardware to run its OS and a hell of a lot more, the hardware in this thing barely runs the naked OS, so I'm reluctant to add any more.
Anyway, after experiments it's been pretty much a total failure with the sleep wifi thing.
Looks like that 3rd party app will be my last resort, lets just hope it's unobtrusive and has litttle battery drain (aside from the obvious).
Failing that, it's either keep lugging around an iphone or get a data plan. Might sell the iphone to fund it.
You can't seriously consider using the iPhone for this. It's a toy.
I'm sure you'll be happy with rk-OSR.
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You can't seriously consider using the iPhone for this. It's a toy.
I'm sure you'll be happy with rk-OSR.
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You;re right, iPhone is a toy, but considering the problems I'm now having downloading email attachments (mp3) and the fact that it doesnt check my mail properly while sleeping, it seems almost worth carrying just to make sure I get my email without having to actively check for it.
I'll take your word though and try rk-OSR and hopefully find a solution to my attachment problem, then I'm a happy happy xperia owner in heaven.
Ok...but.
Ok, got rk-OSR installed and it is working perfectly if I use the "test" button. However, I put the device to sleep, set to sync in a couple of minutes, wait 5 or 6, wake it up myself and nothing. Even the log doesnt have anything after my test attempt. What could be the problem?
still wondering how to get the phone to do this... is it not possible for the phone to check emails while it's in your pocket? such a simple concept yet...
alias_neo and dinan, I found a solution!!! All you have to do is to install GProfile and this program called rk-OSR. You create a time-based profile (in GProfile) and choose a specific time (eg: 1am) to run rk-OSR. You don´t have to select anything else (wifi toggle, etc). Then you select the same time in rk-OSR (1 am) and in this program you select the wifi options. It worked for me.
Hope it helps you
Any way to keep wifi on when NC screen times out from inactivity?
I have tried Keep wifi alive with no success. There is no option in the NC settings like there is on my HTC Inc.
Any help would be appreciated.
JDP
jdposhkus said:
Any way to keep wifi on when NC screen times out from inactivity?
I have tried Keep wifi alive with no success. There is no option in the NC settings like there is on my HTC Inc.
Any help would be appreciated.
JDP
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Spare Parts app has a setting to set wifi sleep policy to never. I've heard mixed reactions as to whether it works, but I'm pretty sure it's working fine for me.
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Spare Parts app has a setting to set wifi sleep policy to never. I've heard mixed reactions as to whether it works, but I'm pretty sure it's working fine for me.
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Verified that it's working for me as well.
Thanks.
Ill give it a shot.
SpareParts is definitely not working for me. I think it modifies the settings.db/system table. Went to look at the table, nothing there related to wifi sleep policy. Should be wifi_sleep_policy with a field of 2, and that didn't work either. Any ideas?
Not working for me either.
Yeah, spare parts isn't keeping my wifi alive either. Every time i turn my NC on after sleeping for a few minutes I have to turn wifi off and back on again.
I got mine working. Spare Parts UI did not work. In fact i ran into issues restarting WiFi when I used the UI to set Sleep to never.
I had to manually create an entry in the secure table for wifi_sleep_policy and i use a widget to turn off wifi when i dont need it.
insert into secure values(152, 'wifi_sleep_policy', 2);
I used WiFi OnOff widget (free from market) to turn wiFi off when not needed.
^ Is there a guide somewhere?
duh.. this worked yesterday and now i am back to where i was before. This seems really flaky. I lose wifi even after having the setting. setting in DB or in spare parts does not fix it. its very random but fails more often than it works.
Possibly a faulty device? I cannot imagine that the Nook has such a basic problem. The only time it consistently reconnects is when i power on/off.
Any thoughts?
Is there a reason you wouldn't hit the power button to turn the screen off instead of waiting for it to time out? I do this when listening to tune-in radio, for example, and wifi remains on just fine. It also saves battery
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Yeah, spare parts isn't keeping my wifi alive either. Every time i turn my NC on after sleeping for a few minutes I have to turn wifi off and back on again.
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I've never had to turn wifi off and back on to make it work again, you sure you aren't having problems with your wireless access point?
I found a quick solution that mostly works. If you download WakeTimer from the market, and create a wakelock (cpu on, screen off) that will keep Android from going into sleep mode and keep your wifi running. I tested it out by continuously pinging my Nook. I said "mostly" works because when you hit a button to turn the screen back on (either power button or nook button) I'd get a single ping timeout before it would resume.
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Even though a single ping times out, there doesn't seem to be an interruption in streaming data. Don't know if I have to say it, but I will just in case...keeping your Nook from going into sleep mode will be a drain on the battery.
give it a try.
Ive been having an issue with my WiFi randomly turning itself on. Ill turn it off to save battery, then check it 30-60 minutes later and its turned itself back on. Ive scanned through other threads and most people say that its from dock mode and to go into dock mode, then go to the settings and disable "auto connect to wifi". I dont have a dock and have never had it in dock mode, but I manually went into dock mode to check check the settings and I dont even have that option in the settings menu. I didnt seem to have the problem (or at least didnt notice it) until after I upgraded to ICS using the OTA update. Is there just a setting that Ive overlooked someplace where I can fix the problem, an app thats got permission to do it that I didnt know about, or is it just a bug thats baked into ICS? Btw, my phone is Locked, Stock, and Unrooted.
Noticed this yesterday on rumfloat4 as well
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I have the same frustrating issue, locked and stock here, upgraded to ICS with the RUU. Sometimes it will stay off for several hours, sometimes not even an hour. I haven't been able to pinpoint which app is causing this.
I believe that it maybe an ICS issue.
I have done a complete factory reset on the phone three times, and network and wifi turn on at exactly midnight.
SO far spoken to HTC customer support.....lol
They advised me yo take back to retailer and let them examine it...wtf???
Regards
Paul
Check your Wi-Fi settings. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
Hope this helps.
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Check your Wi-Fi settings. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
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Doesn't do a thing.
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Too bad. I noticed mine came on the first night after I installed ICS. Took awhile to find the settings I posted. When I found the settings and clicked on the one in the picture I never noticed Wi-Fi come on on its own since.
I am curious how ICS determines "sleep". Is it phone sleep of human sleep? I also wonder if it is somewhat tied into automatic time settings. Say for instance you lose your signal during sleep, does ICS re-set the time and that triggers Wi-Fi turning on based on going setting the phone into a different time zone momentarily?
Just throwing a couple things out there in hopes it helps to solve the mystery.
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Too bad. I noticed mine came on the first night after I installed ICS. Took awhile to find the settings I posted. When I found the settings and clicked on the one in the picture I never noticed Wi-Fi come on on its own since.
I am curious how ICS determines "sleep". Is it phone sleep of human sleep? I also wonder if it is somewhat tied into automatic time settings. Say for instance you lose your signal during sleep, does ICS re-set the time and that triggers Wi-Fi turning on based on going setting the phone into a different time zone momentarily?
Just throwing a couple things out there in hopes it helps to solve the mystery.
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I believe in later versions of GB, there was a distinct sleep setting that was separate from simply turning off the screen after a certain amount of time. As far as I can see, ICS did away with this and just sets the phone to sleep after a certain amount of time, which inherently turns off the screen.
Is this happening on new phones as well as refurbished ones? Whatever the problem is, its becoming annoying enough for me to return this phone and keep my Inspire.
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Yep, GB did have sleep time settings. That's why I was curious as to how ICS determines sleep.
Look at the permissions on HTC Sync. They're pretty intrusive as far as Wi-Fi settings. It may be worthwhile to go into each app and trying to force stopping each one one at a time that changes the Wi-Fi state at will.
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Something else you can try is to go into the usage counter and clear the data from the wi-fi tab. Don't use Wi-Fi for a period of time then check if there was any usage and if there was it would be listed which apps used the data and how much they used. Some apps even allow you to access the settings from there as well.
Juice Defender or similar apps should be able to keep it off when you want it off.
The Airplane Mode also should keep WiFi turned off (as well as data) as long as you don't need to take phone calls while you sleep. Not to mention, it saves on the battery if you're not charging at night.
if anyone still interest on this , i found the solution !
on ics you go to:
settings
WLAN
Advanced
WLAN frequency band
and uncheck the auto set radio to use only 2.4 or 5gh
thats all
Wifi keeps turning off during sleep...?
.. and yes, I've turned 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' to always. Tried a couple of 'keep wifi on' type apps, no help. Any thoughts? thanks, jf
friedsonjm said:
Wifi keeps turning off during sleep...?
.. and yes, I've turned 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' to always. Tried a couple of 'keep wifi on' type apps, no help. Any thoughts? thanks, jf
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Mine does to, but I don't have it set to "always", since I kind of prefer it that way. I'll give it a shot to see what the results are. Do you notice any difference between the two settings, as far as how long it stays active and on?
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Mine does to, but I don't have it set to "always", since I kind of prefer it that way. I'll give it a shot to see what the results are. Do you notice any difference between the two settings, as far as how long it stays active and on?
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Have not tried the 'when plugged in only,' will try it now..
EDIT: Nope, that was no better.. <sigh>
friedsonjm said:
Have not tried the 'when plugged in only,' will try it now..
EDIT: Nope, that was no better.. <sigh>
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31 Minutes on hold - so far - with Google device support...<sigh>
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31 Minutes on hold - so far - with Google device support...<sigh>
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FYI - "Always on" seems to be working fine for me. I turned my screen off about an hour ago, and just connected into the system via Cerberus. In the past, wifi would have shut off within a few minutes and I would get a connection timeout warning. So maybe your unit is having issues with it. I've also only lost MAYBE 1% in battery power, so I think I will leave mine in this state as opposed to disabling wifi on sleep.
I have this problem on some of my devices on 1 of my wife access points but not the other. I believe I could possibly tweak some settings on the access point as I don't believe it is the android device. I use an app called WIFI Fixer and that keeps things working.
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Wifi keeps turning off during sleep...?
.. and yes, I've turned 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' to always. Tried a couple of 'keep wifi on' type apps, no help. Any thoughts? thanks, jf
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Happening on multiple devices. Try advanced WiFi lock on the market. Its one of the first apk's I install and always works.
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SirWill said:
I have this problem on some of my devices on 1 of my wife access points but not the other. I believe I could possibly tweak some settings on the access point as I don't believe it is the android device. I use an app called WIFI Fixer and that keeps things working.
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Seemed to work for a while last night... but woke up this morning and it was off again <sigh>.
Does keeping wifi "always on" adversely affect your battery?
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Does keeping wifi "always on" adversely affect your battery?
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Yes. How much depends on how many apps you have set for auto-updates, I suppose. If you're running several games and social networking apps and they're set for auto-updates, you'll experience a battery drain from them checking for updates every 5 minutes. How much, I can't say. I still don't have my Nexus 7. But if your device drops off the WiFi signal, those apps will know that there is no data connection and not try to update until there is one.
Not to change the subject of the thread, but if I see one more <sigh> I'm going to snap.
Also, OP, why do you need WiFi to be always on? If you can't live without it try: http://bit.ly/MdurdU
As I mentioned, "always on" is working fine for me. Tested it over a period of a few hours. Even moved from one AP to another (ie: work to home), and it auto joined the new wlan.
Battery drain is very minimal in my case. Maybe 0.5-1% an hour, if that.
Yeah but then the apps can't update. IMHO, if you don't want constantly-updating apps, don't enable them to.. If they are checking as often as you think, I would find a different app which gives you what you want but doesn't do that sillyness..
I keep Wi-Fi on 24/7 on all my devices. GPS and BlueTooth too.
I *REFUSE* to let my device "run my life". I find a way to make my battery life happy, and still enjoy my devices. I disable all of the other senseless crap like Facebook or FriendStream, or bloatware-apps.. I don't EVER use an app like ATK or JuiceDefender, or if I do, I only use it instantly to kill an app and then I make it kill itself too. In my 3+ years experience with Android and 30+ devices, I've found that a LOT of apps will TRY to restart even if you kill them. Imagine ATK killing an app, it restarting, ATK auto-killing it again, it restarting again, ATK re-killing it AGAIN, loop()... get my point? Uninstall the problem app and/or find a similar one which doesn't treat your device like it's own playground..
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Not to change the subject of the thread, but if I see one more <sigh> I'm going to snap.
Also, OP, why do you need WiFi to be always on? If you can't live without it try: http://bit.ly/MdurdU
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I want to use my table as a phone via VOIP when I travel, need to get incoming 'phone' calls.
That app is coming across in play as not compatible with the N7 ? <darn> <grin?>
I use my Nexus 7 as a speaker phone so had to set "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to "Always". Easy fix.
mi7chy said:
I use my Nexus 7 as a speaker phone so had to set "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to "Always". Easy fix.
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Yes... and as I said in the post that started this thread, on my N7, it still turns off.... easy, but no fix.
friedsonjm said:
Yes... and as I said in the post that started this thread, on my N7, it still turns off.... easy, but no fix.
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Now rooted and still trying... still keeps auto-turning-off !
This might be a defect in your units. I have gone many, many hours (12+) with my unit in standby mode without it losing wifi connection. It will also continue to sync with email, etc. during this time (and provide audio notifications).
I only lose .5-1%/hour, so I've left it "always on".
I'm having the same issue. On overnight sleep, the wifi is off when I turn it on. It won't reconnect until I toggle wifi on and off. Nothing I've tried so far has worked. Little worried its not as widespread of an issue as I thought it would be.
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I'm having the same issue. On overnight sleep, the wifi is off when I turn it on. It won't reconnect until I toggle wifi on and off. Nothing I've tried so far has worked. Little worried its not as widespread of an issue as I thought it would be.
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Since mine has worked flawlessly (stock rom) for very long periods of sleep with an active wi-fi connection, I would have to believe you have a defect in yours. Either that, or a problematic AP.