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Hi guys, I'm gonna get a Motorola Milestone soon.And the main reason is because of the physical keyboard.However I'm still confused about whether to get this or the Nexus one.I know that the Milestone can be overclocked and the speed likewise,I'm not too worried about it.But,can I run things like Cyanogenmod 6.1 on it maybe,cos I would rather use a custom rom than wait for updates.Please answer me.Lastly,is the screen smooth like the amoled display on the Nexus One?Please help! Thanks!
Yes when overclocked to to 1GHz the Milestone is equal in CPU power to the Nexus One, and the GPU in the Milestone is faster then the Andreno 205 in the Nexus One, regarding the screen yes the Milestone has a much better screen than the Nexus One , regarding color acuracy and things like that, the Milestone uses a IPS panel that is regarded as one if the best screens in mobile industry, the only thing that the AMOLED in the N1 is better at is power consumption and even that not that big difference, so the Milestone wins, but the downside is the locked bootloader that really is a deal breaker, but if you can live with that the Milestone is better, and one more thing, is the oficial updates, the Nexus One is going to recive them for a couple of months or better, but the Milestone is EOL....
What?So that means I can't use custom roms on the Milestone?
It's beyond my comprehension how can anyone recommend Motorola Milestone over anything.
First we got the locked bootloader and yes, that means no custom ROMs for newer versions than Motorola provides. Because Motorola will provide only Froyo somewhere next few months, you can forget Gingerbread on Motorola Milestone.
Then there is the memory issue, Motorola Milestone has 256MB RAM compared to 512MB of Nexus One or other newer devices. This is a huge difference.
In short - if you want a good Android phone with keyboard, get HTC Desire Z. If you want a good keyboardless phone, get Desire HD, Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire or Nexus One (or Motorola Milestone 2). Motorola Milestone is a option only if you want to save lot of cash and you don't care for the limitations.
Yup thanks for the advice.
i am confused about custom rom?? what the roms available in the "Motorola Milestone Android Development" section of the forum? aren't they custom roms? planning to get a milestone too as it less expensive and i want a flash enabled phone..
Basically if the bootlocker is locked, you can't install a custom rom like cyanogenmod using rom manager.But must use other ways which is really difficult for me.The motorola milestone will be getting froyo aka android 2.2 so flash player will be available for download in the android market.So flash will still eventually be available for the Motorola milestone.But I doubt it will be getting android 2.3 so if you wanna get it,you may have to install a custom Tom which I say will be difficult for beginners like me but can be learnt However,the milestone is pretty old already.Why not get a milestone 2 or a Desire 2?Both have physical QWERTY keypad and android 2.2,that means flash is available.
way too expensive... i am going to buy an unlocked phone to use in my country.
Well, if you don care about custom roms, why not just get the motorola milestone and wait for froyo or maybe froyo is already available in your country It will be a pretty good buy! Root the motorola milestone and overclock it and you will feel your phone is really new!
Get a milestone if you want. Desire z has Sense ui and Europe has a bad rep on updating Sense Ui phone, take a while to update, even longer then Moto at times. Motorola is already thinking of support the original Droid with 2.3 os in Late Q1 2011. Maybe, that should give you milestone users; some hope on getting Gingerbread official or Rooted roms. If storage is the problem Do Sd partitioning to swap the apps on your sd..
Only if you were in america my droid has flash player, trust me is good but not great. Same goes with g2 aka htc desire Z have flash doesnt run excellent either. Droid/milestone is better then Desire Z. If you buy Desire Z u going to be spending more money on device; that has similar if not less feature then droid/milestone rooted.
Single LED FLASH= For picture in dark
Dual= 2 LED FLASH= On Milestone
Milestone has less ram with 256 ram, but with sd partioning that can be solved.
Desire Z have an 512 ram.
Milestone has D pad for gaming and better navigation without the touching the screen.
Desire Z has those loose hinges that can be a problem to several users.
Milestone has better GPU= graphic processor with Power vr CHip SHG 530 so does the Galaxy phones and iphones has them 540 and 535.
Desire z has adreno 205 which is limited.
Milestone have better resolution with 854x480 over
Desire Z that have 800x480 .
Milestone might not have the ram, but in everything else it beats Desire Z.
Milestone 512 rom internal memory, but allow user to use 256 Mb
Desire Z has 1.2 gb internal memory.
Overall I say go with Milestone if you are hacker.
Off topic info-In my opinion since the droid 1/Milestone came out a lot of phone are copying the layout of this phone . Look droid incredible,iphone4 and G2/Desire Z. They look like the original Droid.
yeahman45 said:
i am confused about custom rom?? what the roms available in the "Motorola Milestone Android Development" section of the forum? aren't they custom roms? planning to get a milestone too as it less expensive and i want a flash enabled phone..
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The Milestone uses a 100MHz SG530.
The Adreno 205 in Desire Z is a lot faster than the Adreno 200 in the previous Snapdragons. Its performance is on par with the 200MHz SGX530 from Droid 2 or Droid X.
The Hummingbird in Galaxy S uses a SGX540 (blows everything away and sides with Tegra2), and both the 3GS and iPhone 4 use a SGX535 @ 150MHz (better performance/clock than SGX530, equivalent to SGX530 @ 200MHz in most cases).
The Desire Z is a better device all-round, no doubt about that. But it's also a lot more expensive.
And with all the dual-core high-end phones coming out in a couple of months, right now it's a really bad time to be spending a lot of money in high-end phones like the Desire Z.
If you're going to throw the Desire Z around, I would much rather have the Droid 2 Global. Its superiority over all phones makes up for the locked bootloader (IMO). It depends on your needs and standards. I place the touchscreen, overall display quality, and build quality above all else. In these departments, neither Nexus S (definitely not the N1) nor the Desire Z is in the same league as the Droid 2 Global.
milestone help...
Currently I'm not under contract with any carriers, was using my nexus one on local carrier and traded that for an iphone 4. Sold that and currently using a samsung vibrant which only cost $160. I can get a milestone for free with a 2 year contract, but I ll probably just the vibrant mainly. Would the milestone be a good backup android device? It seems out dated to me already, should I just stick with a blackberry bold (even more outdated)????
You should just keep your Vibrant, IMO.
I wouldn't sign a 2-year term just for the Milestone.
All I can say dump vibrant. Samsung take to long updating. It took them 9 month to update to android 2.2 os on vibrant from july 15 release until january 14th 2011 in tmobile usa. Sprint release their samsung galaxy(epic) came out in early august still stuck 2.1 os.
Samsung galaxy(captivate) 2.1 os came out late august no update yet.
Samsung galaxy(fascinate) 2.1 os in late september...
List go on
Droid 1 is getting 2.3 os in march . Giving chance to milestone user in getting gingerbread.
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Get a milestone if you want. Desire z has Sense ui and Europe has a bad rep on updating Sense Ui phone, take a while to update, even longer then Moto at times. Motorola is already thinking of support the original Droid with 2.3 os in Late Q1 2011. Maybe, that should give you milestone users; some hope on getting Gingerbread official or Rooted roms. If storage is the problem Do Sd partitioning to swap the apps on your sd..
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Umm...
Updates to the Droid are not useful in giving hope to Milestone users. We did not get stable 2.2 ROMs until Motorola leaked a 2.2 firmware. Locked bootloader means we can never replace the kernel until Moto releases a signed version.
HTC Sense UI has been *the most* up-to-date custom UI overlay out of all the manufacturers. Once an official Froyo ROM was released for the HTC Desire anywhere in the world (June/July 2010), the RUU was compatible with all GSM/HSPA Desire phones worldwide. The Droid 1 OTA did not arrive till August and it was a USA-CDMA exclusive that was relatively useless in providing options to non-US Moto users.
"Even longer than Moto at times"... can you provide me an example where HTC users had to wait longer in Europe for a working official-sourced Android update compared to a similar-generation Moto phone?
In Europe, as far as I can tell, every HTC phone that was about to get an update, got it long before the European Moto phones got theirs.
For example: HTC Desire got FroYo late summer/early autumn 2010 (forgot exact date).
Moto Milestone -> will get official FroYo sometime the next two-four weeks (Q1 2011!!). Inofficial "leaked" FroYo only appeared like a week ago (Asia-Pacific version, not even the one for Europe, but works just fine).
Do NOT(!) pick Milestone if you want to be able to do anything you want with your phone.
Get it if you can wait 2-3 more weeks for FroYo, and if you are willing to more or less use it "out-of-the-box". (maybe rooting and a bit of tweaking/overclocking/themes, but no REAL "Roms" possible).
get that droid x ME181 china-only market
or wait for dual core phone
That not true only a few location hasnt update their phones... A few european country already has updated the milestone 2.2 os since late december. Example Spain has 2.2 os already on their phone.
Htc desire got it update in July 31 the first full month of summer.
Motorola milestone aka Droid in usa got 2.2 os since August 3rd. If you hacker u can update milestone 2.2 os because droid users coded the update to milestone users already. Search up Droidforum.net That mean if droid get 2.3 os officially u milestone users can get it by us coding it for ya.
Not wait for htc to update the device.
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In Europe, as far as I can tell, every HTC phone that was about to get an update, got it long before the European Moto phones got theirs.
For example: HTC Desire got FroYo late summer/early autumn 2010 (forgot exact date).
Moto Milestone -> will get official FroYo sometime the next two-four weeks (Q1 2011!!). Inofficial "leaked" FroYo only appeared like a week ago (Asia-Pacific version, not even the one for Europe, but works just fine).
Do NOT(!) pick Milestone if you want to be able to do anything you want with your phone.
Get it if you can wait 2-3 more weeks for FroYo, and if you are willing to more or less use it "out-of-the-box". (maybe rooting and a bit of tweaking/overclocking/themes, but no REAL "Roms" possible).
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when i was with my old p350, i remember there i saw a manifest from p350 users to LG, 'cause (i don't remember the model, sorry) *p500* users made a manifest and than send it to LG, so, past some time they was with ICS.
so, tonight, i was thinking about it, and (can look like a child's dream, but ..) WHY NOT?
and i know .. motofail won't help .. ):
I agree, droid 3 unfortunately became one of those unique devices motorola abandoned early. It is a pity that it doesn't have ics even with its ics reference cpu omap4430.
I mean this a company that nownbelongs to google. How much BS needs to be writen for they to comply with an upgrade that will take 3 days to their development team! Jesus!
But thats the misery of good and well created products (Delorian, Dreamcast and Wrangler) its.like a course.
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this phone deserves the trash compacter. worst phone i've everhad
So bad see some people think that.
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I feel so sorry for u.
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I was disappointed to see they abandoned this so early. ICS came out 11 months after the D3 released and no update? Unreal.
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I was disappointed to see they abandoned this so early. ICS came out 11 months after the D3 released and no update? Unreal.
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Actually it was released on 19 October 2011, and the droid 3 was released on July 7, 2011 which makes it only 3 months..........
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So bad see some people think that.
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I feel so sorry for u.
Sent from my my droid 3 directly to your ***.
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Well I wouldn't get too worked up about it. After all its only a phone
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I still find the Droid 3 the best smartphone with full-sized QWERTY keyboard out there, just behind the Droid 4. It doesn't make sense for a Droid 3 owner to buy a Droid 4 just to get 512mb extra RAM, 200mhz faster CPU and not much more.
ICS is the only other factor to consider getting a Droid 4, and knowing perfectly well that the Droid 3 is perfectly capable of handling ICS if Motorola wanted, I refuse to get a Droid 4.
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I still find the Droid 3 the best smartphone with full-sized QWERTY keyboard out there, just behind the Droid 4. It doesn't make sense for a Droid 3 owner to buy a Droid 4 just to get 512mb extra RAM, 200mhz faster CPU and not much more.
ICS is the only other factor to consider getting a Droid 4, and knowing perfectly well that the Droid 3 is perfectly capable of handling ICS if Motorola wanted, I refuse to get a Droid 4.
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don't forget photon Q. but still isn't too much.
giovannipaquier said:
don't forget photon Q. but still isn't too much.
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Right! But it's too big for my liking (prefer 4'' than 4.3'' screen, specially at same resolution...), has less internal storage and you can't replace the battery... I have two batteries for my Droid 3 and it really saved me some times to be able to change to a fully charged up battery in a pinch. Can't do that with Droid 4 or Photon Q.
Still thinking that with ICS the Droid 3 has a couple more years of life for me at least.
and also you can install a mugen-power battery, which is 2-time longer than original one
and imho D3 has a better design, i mean it does not look like a toy
MIUI is one garbage software, almost everything coming from China .... Brand new MI Noten PRO, which installs only what he wants, programs that do not want to be there .... Great programmers can not organize a stupid web site, can't download the updates a.s.o. a. s. o. ... can you tell me people, how to download the last ROM ... i will try to use this ****???
Soooo angry, why did you buy this device at first, anyways here are the links, follow instructions and chill out
http://en.miui.com/download-273.html
http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/5-10-22.28856/
http://en.miui.com/type-68-66.html
I can hear anything about any top end android phone except miui and my note pro
Awesome smoothness same like iPhone
Rock stable
Tons of functions
Very very very beautiful ui
No issues the best phone i have ever used
Tried all galaxy note and s series phone
All xperia and htc phones also
Went back to iPhone after so muvh lag if we install more than 100 apps
But in miui on my note pro i have installed 138 apps and tons of music and photos
No lag at all same smooth like day 1
No need greenify nothing
Bro if you are frustrated this is because you want to get everything on day 1 which is not possible
And now everything even apple is MADE IN CHINA
and trust me this is very beautiful community as well love miui
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Hey guys, a quick question can I go from version 6.4.14 to version 7.3. 10 cheers
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mcteague said:
Hey guys, a quick question can I go from version 6.4.14 to version 7.3. 10 cheers
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Official? or from Xiaomi.eu? you have available new updates every friday
see here
https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-weekly-rom-releases.103/
I use a LG G3, 2 years later, looking at LG G5... Its ugly, smaller screen, no back buttons, no wireless charging, disappointed, so... now looking at P9 Plus as the best phone out there... Where are you coming from? And why the interest in the P9?
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gsw5700 said:
I use a LG G3, 2 years later, looking at LG G5... Its ugly, smaller screen, no back buttons, no wireless charging, disappointed, so... now looking at P9 Plus as the best phone out there... Where are you coming from? And why the interest in the P9?
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P9 plus will be expensive..
For me apealing features :
64gb+4gb+DualSim+IrBlaster+5.5InchScreen+FingerprintReader+DualSpeakers
(Other main features are add on for me ?? )
Like force touch+3400mAh+price+......
ALL THESE TOGATHER....finally!!!
Is there any phone with same or more features combined
Yes there was a phone with almost same features. ...HTC ONE ME but screen little small and Zero development.... so sad
Hope P9 Plus will get good support from Devs here in XDA
I am interested in the P9 Plus or the HTC 10, I'll be coming from a HTC M9+, I am also interested in the big screen, IR and stereo speakers. I just worry about the speediness of Huawei on OS upgrades. Not sure the P8 has officially got Marshmallow everywhere yet, so Lord knows when you'd get Android N with the P9 or P9 Plus
ipsuvedi said:
For me apealing features :
64gb+4gb+DualSim+IrBlaster+5.5InchScreen+FingerprintReader+DualSpeakers
(Other main features are add on for me )
Like force touch+3400mAh+price+......
ALL THESE TOGATHER....finally!!!
Is there any phone with same or more features combined
Yes there was a phone with almost same features. ...HTC ONE ME but screen little small and Zero development.... so sad
Hope P9 Plus will get good support from Devs here in XDA
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Totally agree, this is like the phone I've been waiting for since I got my G2. Unfortunately to me the 3rd party dev support is what's gonna make it or break it...
I've been a loyal BlackBerry user for as long as I've had a smartphone: 9000, 9800, Z10, Z30 and currently Passport. Unfortunately even I've had to admit that BB10 is in it's final death throes. I flirted with the Sony Xperia S between the 9800 and the launch of the Z10 and the 3rd party ROM development was a big attraction. However the spec of the P9 Plus ticks all the boxes and coupled with the fact that I'm a Leica owner anyway, the draw (gimmick) of the Leica tie in, means that even without the ROM development the P9+ is likely to be my next phone.
Do any of you know when this is coming to NA?
ipsuvedi said:
For me apealing features :
64gb+4gb+DualSim+IrBlaster+5.5InchScreen+FingerprintReader+DualSpeakers
(Other main features are add on for me ?? )
Like force touch+3400mAh+price+......
ALL THESE TOGATHER....finally!!!
Is there any phone with same or more features combined
Yes there was a phone with almost same features. ...HTC ONE ME but screen little small and Zero development.... so sad
Hope P9 Plus will get good support from Devs here in XDA
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S7 edge maybe?..
Best screen,3600mah, phone is just released and developing already running and root already on exynos....
D855 NN 3.0 STOCK 30C
Coming from the 1+1, i dont like the screen and touchscreen sensitivity.. If the 9+ gets CM or AOSP Roms i will buy one. Altough i wanted the SD 820 more.
ipsuvedi said:
For me apealing features :
64gb+4gb+DualSim+IrBlaster+5.5InchScreen+FingerprintReader+DualSpeakers
(Other main features are add on for me )
Like force touch+3400mAh+price+......
ALL THESE TOGATHER....finally!!!
Is there any phone with same or more features combined
Yes there was a phone with almost same features. ...HTC ONE ME but screen little small and Zero development.... so sad
Hope P9 Plus will get good support from Devs here in XDA
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I'll thinking about the P9 Plus, G5 or HTC M10 .
So sick of Samsung with it's crapphones that going to die after mostly 1.5-2 years . Happend to my s3, s4, s5 active and now my Note 4 - after 3 months.
I hate this company at all.
SavanTorian said:
I'll thinking about the P9 Plus, G5 or HTC M10 .
So sick of Samsung with it's crapphones that going to die after mostly 1.5-2 years . Happend to my s3, s4, s5 active and now my Note 4 - after 3 months.
I hate this company at all.
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Huu , i still got a Samsung S2 running ...
Fauert said:
Huu , i still got a Samsung S2 running ...
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SII was the BEST phone of all galaxies until 6 edge released, on SII was all nice and smooth
Planning to come from Note 2... if everything goes well... especially price and dev support.
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I hope the dev community gets even a little support, because I plan to come from a ZTE Axon Elite, the Mate 8 has a decent amount of dev support including ROM's and stuff so hopefully the P9 Plus does too. Other than that, the AMOLED display, the faster more efficient processor, bigger battery, and (hopefully) better camera are drawing me over my current device, I would highly doubt audio is better though.
I am coming from windows phone
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/huawei-p9-review-camera-design-software/
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/26/11507260/leica-phone-huawei-p9-no
http://9to5google.com/2016/04/06/hands-on-huawei-p9-p9-plus/
Here are a few articles on P9/Plus.
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weak:
-****ty default UI & bloatware
-camera is decent but not breaking headlines
good:
apart from the weakness, all is superb
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so if someone from xda released an excellent and stable custom rom 6 month after release, this will fix the ****ty UI and bloatware problem, and the phone shall be one of the best on the market. Yes?!
If so i'm gonna make the switch from my iphone 6 plus
Have a Sony Z2 since release and searching for a new phone. I am interested in the camera, big memory and battery. Seems like a great phone! Hope the "bugs" will be fixed like battery drain and something with the SD-card not being able to behave like internal memory (please correct me).
Only a month left until I am able to buy a P9 plus. Oh, it is not shipped with the possibility to use 2 sims here in Sweden.
aliguu said:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/huawei-p9-review-camera-design-software/
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/26/11507260/leica-phone-huawei-p9-no
http://9to5google.com/2016/04/06/hands-on-huawei-p9-p9-plus/
Here are a few articles on P9/Plus.
==>
weak:
-****ty default UI & bloatware
-camera is decent but not breaking headlines
good:
apart from the weakness, all is superb
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so if someone from xda released an excellent and stable custom rom 6 month after release, this will fix the ****ty UI and bloatware problem, and the phone shall be one of the best on the market. Yes?!
If so i'm gonna make the switch from my iphone 6 plus
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I came from an iPhone 6s plus and i must add that im blown away by the speed and smoothness of this phone.
Another thing to consider is the sustained performance that the phone can deliver, i haven't noticed any throttle after 1+ hours of gaming.
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@ipsuvedi, it it going to be launched in India? If not, where else should we buy it from? Is alixpress trustworthy?
Hi.
Considering to upgrade to Realme x2 pro from my S8+ . Any opinions about x2 will be appreciated.
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Go for it
WL8789621 said:
Hi.
Considering to upgrade to Realme x2 pro from my S8+ . Any opinions about x2 will be appreciated.
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I have just went from the S8+ to the X2 Pro and I was surprised how much the X2 Pro is advanced if you compare to it to the S8+ .... loading times, installing apps, GPS catch, network, wifi retention, don't want to talk about the autonomy or the screen on time.... it's just another world. You can switch to the X2 Pro without hesitation. :good:
Thanks mate. So decision is simply. Time to upgrade.
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I also would say go for it , this phone is really great. i have the chinese version and i love it (just takes some extra adb commands and patience to work well in the usa). if you can get the global id say grab it and enjoy !!!
I'm in the same situation, I am currently using a Sony XZ Premium. Also, can any users confirm that it supports Netflix
Oneplus One X Realme X2 Pro?
Hello guys, I have a Oneplus One and I have been very happy with it during these 5 years, mostly because of the support it has at software level (many custom ROMs are available for it), but now it is old and it gives me some performance errors. So that I want to upgrade my phone and I have seen this Realme X2 pro pretty interesting, however I am hesitating if this phone will have as much support as Oneplus brand, because I want it to last a lot and I think this is only got thanks to the community.
Do you think this phone will have a big community behind? I would like to flash it with an AOSP custom ROM sometime.
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Hello guys, I have a Oneplus One and I have been very happy with it during these 5 years, mostly because of the support it has at software level (many custom ROMs are available for it), but now it is old and it gives me some performance errors. So that I want to upgrade my phone and I have seen this Realme X2 pro pretty interesting, however I am hesitating if this phone will have as much support as Oneplus brand, because I want it to last a lot and I think this is only got thanks to the community.
Do you think this phone will have a big community behind? I would like to flash it with an AOSP custom ROM sometime.
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For now, as you can see, very poor dev support..
unfortunately