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Here it is, but be careful it doesn'tplay nice with Koush's Bootstrap Recovery.
Camera, video and GPS don't work.
Have fun!
Sorry can't make this a hot link:
wiki.ccroms.net/obsidian/releases/2.0.0
Doesn't just not play nice with Bootstrap - Bootstrap can't be used at all! If you want to get into Clockwork you have to do it from the power menu it seems. I'm going to let the rom hackers play with this for a while, see if they can fix the issues before I jump in.
http://wiki.ccroms.net/obsidian/releases/2.0.0
so what's the big deal about this ROM vs other ROMs out there?
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so what's the big deal about this ROM vs other ROMs out there?
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Where's the dl?
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davidukfl said:
so what's the big deal about this ROM vs other ROMs out there?
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It's 100% AOSP at the system level. No Blur hooks at all. Still a Motorola kernel though, can't much help that.
Link is listed in the first post! Hot link in the second post
How come every other ROM has the GPS, Camera, and Camcorder working while this one has been in development the longest and doesn't have them working?
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How come every other ROM has the GPS, Camera, and Camcorder working while this one has been in development the longest and doesn't have them working?
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those three things are the hardest to get working when making aosp and cm work with android. i saw that in the droid and it happened all the time with the eris. Give it about 2 weeks and the gps should be working and shortly after that the camera will work. that is usually the norm.
Has a camera app from the market been tried yet? we use to use cameramajic for the eris. until the camera was fixed.
This rom is completely compiled and built from source . Its all AOSP at the system level, meaning it is not a blur rom with aosp apps and an aosp theme. Its the real deal aside from the stock moto kernel which could be causing some of the issues with gps etc.
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so what practical reasons would there be to switch to this (when fully finished) from my currently installed Apex 1.3.1?
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This is pretty much a ****in' score. Basically all the ROMs out for the X are trash. Sounds like this is going to pave the way for some good ROMs. Good work guys
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You might consider rewording this post.
I have waited for this for so long; Thank you!!!!!!!!
Anyone running this yet and can compare speed, functionality, etc. compared to other popular roms?
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Granted there haven't been any full 100% aosp builds but I think the "trash"comment is a bit harsh. When in fact team defuse, fab, kejar,drod,ultimatedroid, lexusbrian, birdman and so on have given us some good solid alternatives to the stock blur fiasco. We have an encrypted/ locked boot loader with a proprietary UI woven throughout our device. So I think alot of these devs have done an amaving job working around these massive roadblocks. So be grateful or crack the encrypted boot loader.
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This is pretty much a ****in' score. Basically all the ROMs out for the X are trash. Sounds like this is going to pave the way for some good ROMs. Good work guys
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davidukfl said:
so what practical reasons would there be to switch to this (when fully finished) from my currently installed Apex 1.3.1?
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Apex is still pretty set into Blur. You have to look at Fission, GummyJAR, or other AOSP-like roms to see what you would gain. It's mostly losing the Motorola/Verizon installed junk, freeing up memory and getting a nicer base to install apps on. For example: the Facebook app doesn't let you sync contacts on the stock software on the Droid X/2/2G/Pro because Blur has its own Facebook implementation. AOSP builds let the app do its thing.
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Granted there haven't been any full 100% aosp builds but I think the "trash"comment is a bit harsh. When in fact team defuse, fab, kejar,drod,ultimatedroid, lexusbrian, birdman and so on have given us some good solid alternatives to the stock blur fiasco. We have an encrypted/ locked boot loader with a proprietary UI woven throughout our device. So I think alot of these devs have done an amaving job working around these massive roadblocks. So be grateful or crack the encrypted boot loader.
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+1 agreed. The devs for the X in my opinion should recieve more respect qnd thanks due to obstacles they have to work around! This is awesome, and I'm stoked to see continued development it!
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sunder74 said:
Granted there haven't been any full 100% aosp builds but I think the "trash"comment is a bit harsh. When in fact team defuse, fab, kejar,drod,ultimatedroid, lexusbrian, birdman and so on have given us some good solid alternatives to the stock blur fiasco. We have an encrypted/ locked boot loader with a proprietary UI woven throughout our device. So I think alot of these devs have done an amaving job working around these massive roadblocks. So be grateful or crack the encrypted boot loader.
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+1. "Trash" is really not cool. It's a slap in the face to all the hard work our devs put in.
Was the download pulled? It just says "Coming soon" next to download.
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Apex is still pretty set into Blur. You have to look at Fission, GummyJAR, or other AOSP-like roms to see what you would gain. It's mostly losing the Motorola/Verizon installed junk, freeing up memory and getting a nicer base to install apps on. For example: the Facebook app doesn't let you sync contacts on the stock software on the Droid X/2/2G/Pro because Blur has its own Facebook implementation. AOSP builds let the app do its thing.
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Fission does the facebook sync
Once everything is built so the missing features are working you have basically built up a clean OEM ROM...
borgey420 said:
This is pretty much a ****in' score. Basically all the ROMs out for the X are trash. Sounds like this is going to pave the way for some good ROMs. Good work guys
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And what ROM are you running? I'll bet it's not stock. Putting down all these devs' hard work should be grounds for a permanent ban from xda account of your total lack of appreciation for the countless hours of work put into the GREAT ROMS that have been made with what they have been given to work with.
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Welcome to the final release of Froyo, by the CCRoms team, which means you guessed it, we're switching gears to Gingerbread after this release. With this release we managed to get the Evo/Emerald going as intended(sorry for the wait.) The Galaxy S style pulldown power widget has been implemented in this release as well. Gem settings have been completely re-written as well, to provide a more intuitive and easier to understand interface for everyone, and of course bug fixes abound.
downloads available at: http://www.ccroms.net
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Droid X users, at this point there is nothign more we can find to do to improve battery life. When/If the battery starts to drain fast, gets sluggish, or gets hot, reboot the phone this will put the race condition causing all of these problems back to sleep, unfortunately there is no way to put the process back to sleep once it wakes up and if you kill the process kernel panics and the phone reboots anyway.
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Welcome to the final release of Froyo, by the CCRoms team, which means you guessed it, we're switching gears to Gingerbread after this release. With this release we managed to get the Evo/Emerald going as intended(sorry for the wait.) The Galaxy S style pulldown power widget has been implemented in this release as well. Gem settings have been completely re-written as well, to provide a more intuitive and easier to understand interface for everyone, and of course bug fixes abound.
downloads available at: http://www.ccroms.net
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Droid X users, at this point there is nothign more we can find to do to improve battery life. When/If the battery starts to drain fast, gets sluggish, or gets hot, reboot the phone this will put the race condition causing all of these problems back to sleep, unfortunately there is no way to put the process back to sleep once it wakes up and if you kill the process kernel panics and the phone reboots anyway.
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How do you plan on bringing gingerbread to the droid x when we won't have the proper kernel to take advantage of it?
Are the "known issues" (GPS, camera/camcorder, etc.) fixed in this release?
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Are the "known issues" (GPS, camera/camcorder, etc.) fixed in this release?
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No they are not. It shows all the known issues from the dl link posted above
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How do you plan on bringing gingerbread to the droid x when we won't have the proper kernel to take advantage of it?
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for the record, a kernel is nothing more than a core piece of low-level software that executes other programs and provides access to the hardware. nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well, if anything you just might need to modify how android interfaces with the hardware to match the old kernel interfaces.
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No they are not. It shows all the known issues from the dl link posted above
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Saw that, just didn't know if it hadn't been updated quite yet. Too bad. I'm still waiting on these to be fixed before I can jump back in. LOVED the ROM though.
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Saw that, just didn't know if it hadn't been updated quite yet. Too bad. I'm still waiting on these to be fixed before I can jump back in. LOVED the ROM though.
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Those are all a must for me at least
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I don't understand the gps issue or the camera issue. If there was fine GPS and a camera i would love the fact it is AOSP however not that i use them all that often but if i loaded it i would inevitably need one or both. and its still beta if you can't get a totally stable and working froyo rom how will you ever get the GB stable. Will the kexec(?) be used to use custom kernels to make the gps and camera work?
I just booted this up seemed ok other than the problems known but for some reason it wouldn't let me download anything from the market said I didn't have enough room.... Idk y that happened
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I just booted this up seemed ok other than the problems known but for some reason it wouldn't let me download anything from the market said I didn't have enough room.... Idk y that happened
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same here. it's been reported in other obsidian forums too. i was able to get around it by using an older version of market. i installed cm gapps instead of obsidian gapps. The cm gapps had a version of market from 2 month ago. everything worked fine. then i updated my market to 2.2.11 and the "There's not enough room..." error message was right back again.
other than that, i really love how clean and fast this rom is. thanks a ton cvpcs and best of luck with the cyanogenmod team.
any pics of the drop down toggles???
tttuning said:
any pics of the drop down toggles???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbKJy6MPUz0
cvpcs said:
for the record, a kernel is nothing more than a core piece of low-level software that executes other programs and provides access to the hardware. nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well, if anything you just might need to modify how android interfaces with the hardware to match the old kernel interfaces.
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what...? What!? That is completely wrong... Nothing says you have to upgrade the kernel... unless Gingerbread uses modules not currently in the present kernel, which I can pretty much guarantee it will... Your statement could hold true for something such as minor update like 2.2 to 2.2.1 as we saw earlier, but would very like cause many things to not work come gingerbread. A good example is the previous hacked upgrades of 2.1 to 2.2 back before the proper kernels were released (specifically in memory of the HTC Incredible) sure, 2.2 could run without the proper kernel, of course your WiFi wouldn't work, GPS didn't work, if you tried to run the 720p camera it would crash, as well as several others that I cannot remember as of this moment. The kernel is not "just a low level piece of software" it is the backbone of your entire system, especially when it comes to the system talking with the hardware itself.
I think Taco that you should reread CVPS post. It stated this...
"nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well"
Which is what you said was wrong, then said the same thing following it.
So how is the rom working for everyone? or it's pretty much dead..
ram130 said:
So how is the rom working for everyone? or it's pretty much dead..
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I think it was pretty much dead on arrival when it said the camera & camcorder didn't work...that's kind of a mandatory feature of any smartphone.
If it's been fixed...then they're lame for not updating the page noting the bugs.
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I think it was pretty much dead on arrival when it said the camera & camcorder didn't work...that's kind of a mandatory feature of any smartphone.
If it's been fixed...then they're lame for not updating the page noting the bugs.
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Well that sucks ..development on this phone is so slow..
The worst part is the x HAD so much potential, do to great things. I have watched this forum since the day the x launched and the sad thing is that the tbolt is only 6 days old right now and has a much larger devwlopment thread than the x has had at any point. Sad to say it but i think moto phones are done in the development community.
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The worst part is the x HAD so much potential, do to great things. I have watched this forum since the day the x launched and the sad thing is that the tbolt is only 6 days old right now and has a much larger devwlopment thread than the x has had at any point. Sad to say it but i think moto phones are done in the development community.
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The X development has all but ceased from what I can see. Such a bummer since I'm stuck with it for another year and a half. Hopefully we can see a few updates to some ROMs once gingerbread rolls around for the phone, but after that I don't see much reason for hope.
True...so what was the most annoying issue with this rom? Im thinking about flashing it. Im on 3.4.2 now.
Also you can sell your DX on swappa.com then pay the difference and get a htc.
hi,
first of all, i want to say that i am not the developer or related by any means to this rom.
I just accidently came across this rom and wanted to share the link to u guys.
Updates-
12.05.2011- v1.85 available through Rom manager.
06.05.2011- Liquid nexusbread ver 1.8
http://liquidsmoothroms.com/node/1
Been running this rom for several days and it's working flawlessly! Love all the options for changing color in the status/dropdown bar, etc. Not sure if these were implemented in CM7.0.2 or not. This rom is really nice, I happened across it on ROM Manager. Lot's of cool features/options and very fast.
I am downloading the rom as we speak. This is very exciting news!
EDIT: This is not the Liquid Metal Tom although I automatically assumed it was. This rom is very fast and the stock browser works almost flawlessly with flash content compared to other roms I've tried. I have my phone overclocked at 1440 Max with the performance governor and I am very impressed at how stable it is. The phone hasn't crashed yet! This might honestly be my daily driver.
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I went to high school with the dev of this rom and it was originally made for my nexus s... until I swapped for a G2x. If you get a chance, send him some donations. He's unemployed and could use the support.
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Is this based on CM7 too?
dancedreamfly said:
Is this based on CM7 too?
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Has all the goodies of CM7 and more.
This is a really awesome rom. All of CM7 stuff, plus more. Definitely lots of good stuff here!
why is this posted in a droid/verizon forum? it also seems awful tiny for a rom that supposed to offer as much as cm7.....it's nearly half the size
Pics please
Can anyone post some pics?
Is this better than CM?
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why is this posted in a droid/verizon forum? it also seems awful tiny for a rom that supposed to offer as much as cm7.....it's nearly half the size
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The dev had a Droid x and now has a thunderbolt. He made the rom for me but by the time he finished I exchanged my nexus s for a g2x. He's been doing roms for a long time now. Since the og Droid.
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just got done with the CHANGES & CREDITS now i m gonna install it
I tried this a while ago. And it seemed nice. But it only had english as language. As i remember the download was only 57mb, so maybe the dev could ad the languages again. So this could be used.
THANKs
another GREAT ROM for Nexus S
Will this rom receive any updates in the future?
Sweet. Will have to try this out ... when I get my phone back from Samsung
irishrally said:
Sweet. Will have to try this out ... when I get my phone back from Samsung
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Ohhh.keep us posted about it.I am curious to know if they could solve the problem or if they just changed the MB.
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This ROM has proven itself far superior to any i've used earlier. Its fluid fast with a exceptional battery life and so many options to mod the ROM.
The rom has been removed from Liquidsmoothroms.com. Maybe theres an update coming.
there are NO gapps included, just a heads up. I believe it said the latest gapps were installed
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The rom has been removed from Liquidsmoothroms.com. Maybe theres an update coming.
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no its not, its still there 1.65 is still THERE for download
My own Project was already in the works for another TEAM:
http://www.aedesign.cn/bbs/forumdisplay.php?fid=6
DOWNLOAD of THEIR work:
http://u.115.com/file/bh5z76gp#AED_Legend_5.0.0.RC3_exp.zip
good to see
Good to see someone else to make something new for the legend comunity. Keep going!
By the way, what is your ROM base? The video is too blury...
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Good to see someone else to make something new for the legend comunity. Keep going!
By the way, what is your ROM base? The video is too blury...
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I would say this rom:
http://www.aedesign.cn/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=316&extra=page=1
Looks cool, looking forward to this rom. Gj so far
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I am glad as well to see someone else step up to the plate. I think this will give the CyanogenMod developers some more motivation to make a stable release.
LiViD said:
I am glad as well to see someone else step up to the place. I think this will give the CyanogenMod developers some more motivation to make a stable release.
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Yeah, I know we are idiots. All of our releases have been unstable, full of bugs and missing nearly every feature one could wish for. Please excuse us, but we really can't do any better. The fact that all ROMs that are not based off RUUs are CyanogenMod rip-offs should clearly tell you that we just can't get anything right at all.
Very MIUI like.. Looks pretty much like my new Desire... Great job seeing similar running on the Legend..
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great job!
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I am glad as well to see someone else step up to the plate. I think this will give the CyanogenMod developers some more motivation to make a stable release.
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i suggust u say sorry for your arrogance to the CyanogenMod tea
btw awsome work!
dilip007 said:
i suggust u say sorry for your arrogance to the CyanogenMod tea
btw awsome work!
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You guys don't pay attention to the experimental thread do you? Seriously, over 160 attempts at a nightly build and still nothing that performs up to par with ogo2's 2.3.3 Sense UI ROM. Sure his is lacking WiFi AP functionality, but I can live with that.
I love how you call everyone elses' ROM a rip-off of a CM ROM. Get a life guys, no one would attempt to use your builds unless said person was extremely lazy.
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You guys don't pay attention to the experimental thread do you? Seriously, over 160 attempts at a nightly build and still nothing that performs up to par with ogo2's 2.3.3 Sense UI ROM. Sure his is lacking WiFi AP functionality, but I can live with that.
I love how you call everyone elses' ROM a rip-off of a CM ROM. Get a life guys, no one would attempt to use your builds unless said person was extremely lazy.
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Damn.. Where have you lived your life? 2 versions of stable ROMS is what we have.. original from HTC is 1 - CM is 2.. All roms worth mention is variations of one of those.. (for Legend that is)
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LiViD said:
I love how you call everyone elses' ROM a rip-off of a CM ROM.
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I know I'm wasting my time here and I really don't care anyway.
Still I think I have to clarify that I'm not talking about people using some "builds". I'm talking about the source code.
If you want to build a ROM for the Legend (and nearly every other device out there) you've got two choices: Push some files from official releases (RUUs) around and zip them, or compile from source.
As a matter of fact there's no project out there that releases working source code (for anything but Google's official devices) except for CyanogenMod.
Video encoding or decoding? msm* support? Backported code for ancient libcamera, libril and framework support for said ancient libraries? GPS backport or implementation? Kernel backports for Gingerbread? Yeah, good luck finding that somewhere else (no, I don't mean the CAF repositories where we are copying from and giving credit of course).
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Get a life guys, no one would attempt to use your builds unless said person was extremely lazy.
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"Get a life"? Come on, don't be ridiculous.
MD5-sums can be quite revealing by the way. Or boot messages (like "Welcome to CyanogeMod" in MIUI). Some people were even charging for shady rip-offs – that's why the CM team ultimately decided to close down development and switch to "release when it's done".
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Seriously, over 160 attempts at a nightly build...
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Sorry, but you didn't understand the concept of a nightly build? There are no "attempts at a nightly build" and they are not even meant for users. Nightly builds are there to see if current code in the repositories still compiles. Nothing else.
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All roms worth mention is variations of one of those.. (for Legend that is)
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Unfortunately not only for the Legend but for most other devices too.
Android was said to be open but in fact it's just proprietary crap again. No developer wants to spend months doing the work of forty CM devs, so they either join CM – or sometimes steal their work declaring it as their own – or use (or combine) binaries from official releases.
If you didn't care, you would be in other developers threads attacking their attempts at making something that just may work better than what you're pushing out.
Face the facts; People want more choices other than CM. I am willing to admit that CM 6.1 was a damn good ROM when it came out, but I can't for life of me figure out why you guys can't live up to the same expectations with CM7.
I have been testing the NewSense 1.0 RC's (HTC Salsa ROM) for some time, and I as I said; Without the lack of AP support, it works well and does not have the crash prone problems that I have seen with 7.0.3, and 7.1 RC1.
ali ba said:
Unfortunately not only for the Legend but for most other devices too.
Android was said to be open but in fact it's just proprietary crap again. No developer wants to spend months doing the work of forty CM devs, so they either join CM – or sometimes steal their work declaring it as their own – or use (or combine) binaries from official releases.
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Oh Sorry.. Didn't know much of other devices.. Recently bought the Desire and currently using MIUI. Must admit that I believed the MIUI to be a completely rewrite of the Android framework..
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I have been testing the NewSense 1.0 RC's (HTC Salsa ROM) for some time, and I as I said; Without the lack of AP support, it works well and does not have the crash prone problems that I have seen with 7.0.3, and 7.1 RC1.
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You can thanks for that to HTC, because i haven't written a single line of code in NewSense. Only some crappy hacks.
Really, our community is too small and we have a lack of devs, but that's not all. HTC provide to us just ****ty sources. It just sucks!
Btw: this rom here is based on cm7...
Edit: I commented on the wrong ROM. My bad.
I still think Blayo's rom's are the best for Legend!
Been using them for quite a while and I never have had any complain!
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Must admit that I believed the MIUI to be a completely rewrite of the Android framework..
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Their earlier releases certainly used CM sources with modified framework and apps. I don't know what they are doing now – but as they don't release their sources I can accuse them of using modified CM source code as much as I want without ever being able to prove it so I refrain from doing that.
If you are interested, the UltimateDroid soap opera is a good read by the way.
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You can thanks for that to HTC, because i haven't written a single line of code in NewSense. Only some crappy hacks.
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That doesn't make your work worth less than anyone else's and certainly not "crappy".
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HTC provide to us just ****ty sources.
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I'd be happy if they provided the real sources for the binaries they are releasing but as a matter of fact HTC continuously violates the GPL and we can't do anything about that.
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If you didn't care, you would be in other developers threads attacking their attempts at making something that just may work better than what you're pushing out.
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Where exactly did I attack emiliano7's work? I'm actually very glad that someone is developing for the Legend and I never stated anything else.
You obviously on the other hand couldn't resist showing your arrogant attitude by addressing the CM team in this thread making false accusations. You can't take a discussion off-topic and then blame others for taking the same train.
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...the crash prone problems that I have seen with 7.0.3, and 7.1 RC1.
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Instead of making vague accusations you could have filed bug reports a long time ago. CM is a community project and nothing without its community.
It sometimes still makes me sad that for some people whining doesn't seem to be a problem but as soon as it comes to writing a good bug report they come up with various excuses.
already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
/rant
It is no different than the numerous GB/CM based ROMs. Who cares?
Bounced off a tower to a forum near you!
I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.
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I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.
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What happened? I had wallet set up and ready to go, tried it at rite aid and wouldn't go through...
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these people couldn't be taking part in a hobby for them, could they be just trying to learn the ins and outs of android, heck they couldn't even be kids learning to code and all are getting excited to show off what they complied.
Last time I checked you were not required to flash every rom in the Dev section. So lets take a step back I don't like miui nothing wrong with it but should I be complied to start a thread asking why we have topics about when I don't care for it.
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You said it....
Chill out. We have to get AOSP working bug-free in the first place, then they'll start looking different. Even CM9 doesnt have any CMsettings or anything special. We're sorry that something that we're beating Google at (ICS release for NS) currently is not to your standards.
In due time.....in due time.
I see where the OP is coming from, but I disagree. The fact that the devs work hard to bring the OS to our devices is pretty appreciated. They pretty much do Google's work for free by modifying the code.
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icecoldbong said:
already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
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you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety
simms22 said:
you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety
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lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name
icecoldbong said:
lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name
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I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
To put things in perspective, ICS development for the Nexus S is light years ahead of all other devices. For that reason alone, we should be grateful. Others are still struggling to either boot, or get somewhere AFTER boot.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.
nickmv said:
I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.
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yes, two roms are getting built from the source on xda; kwiboo and koush. then all the others.
both kwiboo and koush thread is full of bug reports of people using a different rom like brainmaster, ultimate ics, kangorama ics, etc.
all this does is add confusion from the rom chef adding things to the original rom developers work
what im suggesting/ranting is that if a rom chefs should be a little more patient in making more spinoff roms that don't really add much besides to confusion for noob users
Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.
nickmv said:
Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.
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Most of the bugs posted are not even valid. One in particular is known issue even on the GNexus.
The biggest issue I see is code optimization at this point.
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
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RonnieRuff said:
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
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This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.
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This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.
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Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.
oakamil said:
Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.
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I found kwiboo's to be a lot more stable than koush's. although koush's had more functionality.. my bluetooth didnt work, and i got many errors.
Understand that we are using old binaries. ICS will run just as good as gingerbread, if not, better. These will make a world of difference
RonnieRuff said:
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS.
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I'd kind of disagree with this. In its current early state here on the NS, I've gotten it running butter smooth and highly responsive, on a 1.1 OC/UV kernel. This is WITHOUT tweaks to filesystem, etc. If certain apps would just display properly when GPU Rendering is turned on, and some battery stuff worked out, I'd be 100% content.
Now granted, I've seen it running on the SGS2 and Galaxy Nexus and they're clearly speedier, but in my experience, my apps run just as fast as they did in GB.
On a side note....wanna see slow? It's been ported to the T-Mobile G1! HA! The first, original android phone!
I agree. there was actually a recent article on android police about this. There is no problem with people making their own roms but don't clog up the development section with "roms" that really all they do is bundle some easily downloadable market apps and some wallpapers and call it a new rom.
What the SGS2 xda forum actually did was split the dev section into 2 . One for original dev work and one for spin offs.