Milestone bootloader screen replaced by blank screen - Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh

Milestone bootloader screen replaced by blank screen - Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh

basically every time i try to boot into the bootloader i am presented with a blank screen for about a minute then it reboots back into the OS
i tried letting RSD lite boot into the OS like i have done before but i just get a error

i have the exact same problem... please help!!!!

I don't have a milestone, but I presume the lumping w/ droid 1 is due to similarity
If you've got the "terminal emulator", you may try to do install the bootloader manually using "flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-0.99.3b.img"
You can find "flash_image" & lots of recoveries over here (thanks, ted!):
http colon slash slash ted dot servepics dot com slash nap slash droid
[sorry for the 'literals' -- board doesn't want me to post urls until I hit 8 posts in count]
Also, check to see if you'e got a file /etc/install-recovery.sh
IF that file does exist, make it do nothing or even not exist at all -- it reflashes the "stock" recovery, upon reboot. That was very, very annoying; Rom Manager should warn you about the existence of this file in your filesystem.

a_username said:
I don't have a milestone, but I presume the lumping w/ droid 1 is due to similarity
If you've got the "terminal emulator", you may try to do install the bootloader manually using "flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-0.99.3b.img"
You can find "flash_image" & lots of recoveries over here (thanks, ted!):
http colon slash slash ted dot servepics dot com slash nap slash droid
[sorry for the 'literals' -- board doesn't want me to post urls until I hit 8 posts in count]
Also, check to see if you'e got a file /etc/install-recovery.sh
IF that file does exist, make it do nothing or even not exist at all -- it reflashes the "stock" recovery, upon reboot. That was very, very annoying; Rom Manager should warn you about the existence of this file in your filesystem.
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ROM Manager does not work on the Milestone, and I have never heard of a recovery_image file for the Milestone. It sounds like something Droid-specific. You have a Droid I presume?
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App

yes, I do have a droid 1.
Hmmm, why'd they "lump us together" on this board - if we're so different?
When you say "rom manager" 'never worked' - what do you mean?
I prefer using flash_image via command-line - tells you when crud isn't working - but I'm a dinosaur unix geek. It was strange - took many attempts before the recovery flash_image succeeded.
I presume you have "root" - else you'd not be able to run "rom manager" at alll.
Check & see if there is a file "install-recovery.sh" is in your /etc directory - I dunno where I got this file, OTA or where -- it erased my bootloader/"recovery" on at startup after a second reboot.
There's got to be a reason they have droid 1 & milestone together - I could find this out - but eh, ask you anyways, increase my post count if nothing else: what processor does the milestone use? What kernel versions does it use?

a_username said:
yes, I do have a droid 1.
Hmmm, why'd they "lump us together" on this board - if we're so different?
When you say "rom manager" 'never worked' - what do you mean?
I prefer using flash_image via command-line - tells you when crud isn't working - but I'm a dinosaur unix geek. It was strange - took many attempts before the recovery flash_image succeeded.
I presume you have "root" - else you'd not be able to run "rom manager" at alll.
Check & see if there is a file "install-recovery.sh" is in your /etc directory - I dunno where I got this file, OTA or where -- it erased my bootloader/"recovery" on at startup after a second reboot.
There's got to be a reason they have droid 1 & milestone together - I could find this out - but eh, ask you anyways, increase my post count if nothing else: what processor does the milestone use? What kernel versions does it use?
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Hardware-wise, Milestone and Droid are almost EXACTLY the same. That's why we are paired together. We have separate forums for development, but the General is for both phones.
It's what lies underneath the hardware that makes us so different. Your bootloader is unlocked, whereas ours on the Milestone is not. That allows you to flash custom kernels and modify the bootloader. Milestone users cannot. So we have to bypass that by hacking our stock Motorola recovery using a special sbf and then using a modded version of recovery called OpenRecovery.
I'm pretty sure the install-recovery.sh file that you have (we don't have it on MS), is because of an OTA update. There is a script I think that enables you to remove that script, as it checks for the version of the bootloader and might remove root, etc.
We cannot use ROM Manager or ClockworkMod, as they require an open bootloader. Many, many people have come into the forums and asked why their MS is bricked or bootlooping because ROM Manager isn't working for them. In that case, we need to reflash the 2.2.1 SBF, then flash the Vulnerable Recovery SBF and start over from scratch; A sort of "soft-brick".

Thanks for clarifying!
That SBF is flash-data for use w/ RSD-lite? I think I've had to use that to unbrick my droid, long in the past.
Is the bootloader the only difference? That is, after SBF flash, etc., milestone can run the same kernel as droid 1?

a_username said:
Thanks for clarifying!
That SBF is flash-data for use w/ RSD-lite? I think I've had to use that to unbrick my droid, long in the past.
Is the bootloader the only difference? That is, after SBF flash, etc., milestone can run the same kernel as droid 1?
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Unfortunately, no. Flashing new kernels requires an unlocked bootloader, so we are stuck with the stock, Motorola-signed kernels.
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Related

It is simply ridiculous that HALF of the Nexus One RAM is unusable in stock...

...so I am compelled to root. ALL I care about is unlocking that other 256 (himem, I think it's called) for use and apps2sd would be nice but not necessary. Any other practical enhancements would be welcome. I'm using build ERE27. So which ROM fits that description best and where are the easiest instructions with links to download? I have been all over this and other sites and there are so many tutorials and none seem identical. Try Youtube and you know what you get? The most popular root tutorial (by far) flat out tells you from the start "This is not for beginners". Well, where the **** is the one for the beginners? I've jailbroken Iphones and flashed ROM's on to WM devices but I've never seen a more convoluted method to implementing a ROM replacement for a phone. Step by step (with backup reminders at critical times during process) would be great.
For example (from CyanogenMod):
Before continuing, you should first copy all the necessary files to your SD Card. Doing so will make the entire process much easier and faster.
Files you will need:
Download the latest release of CyanogenMod for the Nexus One and the Google Addon from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
Download the latest release of Amon_Ra's Nexus One Recovery Image from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611829
Rename Amon_Ra's recovery file "Recovery.img", and copy all three files to the root of your SD Card
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I'm sorry, did you not just provide me with 2 files to download? Where does the third come from? And why does every "Link" lead to a full page with 3700 more links rather than just a freaking file to download??
Even Droiddog uses a Mac during the process because a PC would have been far too convenient for the masses (Plus I don't want the Desire ROM-too borky).
Preparing myself beforehand (going through the motions of the root without rooting) led to me opening 7 windows instead of direct file downloads. 7 Windows. 7. Does it really have to be this arduous?
I'm sorry for the frustration but deciding to root was suppose to be the hard part. Now I'm just overwhelmed with the unnecessary difficulty of it all. In truth, I'll probably be posting "thanks" from a rooted N1 by tomorrow and wondering what was so hard about all of that.......or I'll be crying over a $530 brick in my hands.

I believe Cyanogen mod (latest version in the link) includes the himem by default, just install that and you'll get the more available RAM (unless there is more steps to the process), I do not use Cyanogen.
Please note this is not the iphone OS we are dealing with here, things will not be as simple as a button press.. I honestly do not know what a "noob guide" is when it comes to Android, it all seems so straightforward to me... If I rooted my G1 and I'm only 13, not even being a nerd at that (wouldn't care if I was though..), I would imagine it not being hard for anyone..

At least the ram thing can be fixed with an ota. It looks like the multitouch problem is hardware. I feel like the ram, choppy scrolling, weird picture quality and image issue should really be solved by now by official update. I can see stringing us along for software upgrades like cupcake, new market, etc...but software fixes should be released asap. Any eta on the nexus 2?

DMaverick50 said:
At least the ram thing can be fixed with an ota. It looks like the multitouch problem is hardware. I feel like the ram, choppy scrolling, weird picture quality and image issue should really be solved by now by official update. I can see stringing us along for software upgrades like cupcake, new market, etc...but software fixes should be released asap. Any eta on the nexus 2?
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Choppy scrolling is just that launcher2, and has nothing to do with the actual phone hardware which is a good thing. I went back to an older 2.0 launcher that is MUCH MUCH faster with continuous scroll.
I will switch if continuous scroll is added to launcher2, but yeah that choppiness stinks

It's a bug the iPhone had its bugs too. One of the great things about rooting your phone is not having to wait for Google to fix bugs the devs here do it nice and quick. I waited a month then rooted my phone and I am happy I did.

Prod1702 said:
I waited a month then rooted my phone and I am happy I did.
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Does the extra 256 of ram make a noticeable difference in the overall speed and experience of the device (you should know having gone a month with stock on it)?

I didn't know CM rom unlocked the RAM you are talking about. I thought we were still waiting on an update from google for that.

jz9833 said:
I didn't know CM rom unlocked the RAM you are talking about. I thought we were still waiting on an update from google for that.
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Is this true?

CM mode unlocks a good upgrade portion of the ram, for example with 10 apps Open I used to have 60 or less MBS left of ram, after CM upgrade with Kspec theme, i have 10 similar apps open and have 200+mbs of ram left, dont believe me? I actually made a video while still pretty shocked, check it, might as well rate and sub. I think I had 230+mbs while 10-12 apps running
www.youtube.com/user/exclusivegslick = my only video.

Ok to answer a few of your questions:
Does CyanMod include more ram? YES. This bump up in ram is included in the Kernel, and all of the newest roms have this including the undervolted/overclocked kernel's as well.
You get about 400mbs after the free up.
The Three Files:
Google had to go after Cyanogen so he HAD to seperate "google apps addon" from his mod. OTHER ROMS will include Google apps in most cases. So CYanogenmod = 2 files.
Ok here is a quick summary that will hopefully help the other guides make more sense. USE THE OTHER GUIDES STILL this is a conceptual map.
1) Install Android SDK to your COMPUTER which gives you ADB and the windows drivers. The drivers can also be downloaded via another thread. Search drivers/sdk drivers/adb drivers etc..
2) Download/install Fastboot to your COMPUTER
3) Download Amon Ra Recovery 1.6.3 to your Fastboot FOLDER on computer
4) Download CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 to the ROOT(VERY TOP LVL) directory of your SD CARD.
5) In same post, Download Google APPS 36ERE thing to ROOT of your SD CARD.
*This gives you all of the proper stuff. Make sure you get ADB SDK drivers loaded I stumbled here and wasted a couple of hours*
6) Unlock bootloader via fastboot. This is a command given from your Computer in DOS prompt in the folder you created with fastboot stuff. Your phone is connected and you are in the BOOTLoader. READ the guides for exact directions or the androidandme video, or countless other things.
7) Install Amon Ra's Recovery while still in FASTBOOT from a command via your computer. Follow guides or even first post on Amon Ra's Thread.
8) Now that you are unlocked. Go into RECOVERY which is done via the bootloader. Guide will give exact direction.
9) **** MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP **** just get in the habit. It is your FAIL SAFE. This in theory makes a nandroid backup of your "stock but unlocked" setup. I always "RE" nandroid backup before making changes or when I "Like" my setup. Command is in recovery.
10) WIPE data via recovery command.
11) FLASH from ZIP - pick Cyanogenmod5.0.4.1 (file you dl'ed to your sd card)
12) Flash from ZIP - GAPPS(googleapps) (file you dl'ed to your sd card)
REBOOT the phone. VOILA. Your done.
Important notes. If you decide, IFFFF, to update the radio. NEVER EVER EVER EVER pull the battery. MD5CheckSUM the radio download. and Repeat NEVER EVER EVER EVER pull the battery until the radio is entirely installed. It can take awhile. This is how you BRICK your phone.
Anyways. that is a real high lvl overview but maybe puts things in perspective easier.

btw you actually have less than half of the total RAM & ROM usable on a stock n1.
I would love to post a cyanogen guide...but haven't rooted yet. I believe he has a wiki with steps too.

britoso said:
btw you actually have less than half of the total RAM & ROM usable on a stock n1.
I would love to post a cyanogen guide...but haven't rooted yet. I believe he has a wiki with steps too.
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Same here. I'm temped every day to root and unlock the benefits, but I don't know if it's worth voiding my warranty :\

I know what you mean with the "this is not for beginners", it was annoying because, even cyanogen had to unlock his first android phone some time. I followed that guide anyway, after doing as much research as possible. It didnt work though, i could not go straight from unlocking the bootloader to installing amon_ra's recovery, i had to install superboot first. I was hoping for a 30 minute root job, but it ended up taking about 4 hours all up.
I think the stock android kernel is .29 Which only recognises 256mb ram, cyanogen's mod is on the .32 then the .33 kernel which is a highmem kernel, by flashing cyanogenmod you are automatically unlocking the extra ram, no other work is required.
Also, i would suggest sticking with the ERE27 radio, i personally have no problems with reception with it, also if you don't flash the radio, your chances of bricking your phone are very very very low. If you want to do the radio, you can flash it later, when you are more experienced.

seanowns said:
The Three Files:
Google had to go after Cyanogen so he HAD to seperate "google apps addon" from his mod. OTHER ROMS will include Google apps in most cases. So CYanogenmod = 2 files.
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I downloaded the Android SDK
2) Download/install Fastboot to your COMPUTER
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Where is fastboot?
Do I have to do this? : (from Cyanogen's Wiki)
Instructions from Android Developers and ADB, Fastboot, and Nandroid for Noob
Download the latest Android SDK.
Unzip to C:\AndroidSDK
Right-click on (My) Computer, and select Properties
Go to Advanced settings
XP: Click the Advanced tab
Vista/7: Click Advanced system settings on the left
Click the Environment Variables button
double-click on Path (under System Variables)
Add the full path to the tools/ directory:
C:\AndroidSDK\tools\
(make sure a semicolon ( separates this new path from all the others) Latest windows version appears to need: "C:\AndroidSDK\android-sdk-windows\tools", install location may have changed. (sorry I don't know how to format this correctly!)
Run C:\AndroidSDK\SDK Setup.exe
If it gives you an error go to settings and click on "Force http//....."
Unselect all options except for the USB driver
If you can't get the setup to work, download the USB-DRIVERS folder - HERE (Windows XP/Vista/Windows 7)
On your phone, click Settings > Applications > Development and make sure USB Debugging is on.
Plug your phone into your computer via USB cable (it needs to be on). It should say installing drivers if using Windows.
After it installs the drivers, goto the Start menu and type cmd into the search bar (Vista or higher) or click Run then type in cmd (XP) to open the command prompt.
Type the following into the command prompt window:adb devices
You should see a serial number pop up, it’s the serial number of your phone. This means you are all set. If you do NOT see a serial number, then we need to reinstall the drivers.
Download USBDeview
While the phone is still plugged in, open USBDeview and sort by manufacturer. Find all the HTC/Android drivers and uninstall them all. (Windows Vista requires program to be run as an administrator, otherwise files won't uninstall.)
Once all have been uninstalled, unplug the phone from the USB cable and plug it back in.
The correct drivers should reinstall automatically (check the drivers as they are installing, one should say ADB Device driver).
To check, go to Devices in your Start menu then click on the “Android Phone”. Click on the Hardware tab, and check the list of drivers for ADB Interface under Type.
Done! Now you can use ADB to alter your phone from your computer.
I have Amon RA Recovery Image.
4) Download CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 to the ROOT(VERY TOP LVL) directory of your SD CARD.
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Please go to the Cyanogen Page and tell me where that is. The only link that states CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 will lead to another tab opening with the exact same page as the one you just left. Check for yourself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
5) In same post, Download Google APPS 36ERE thing to ROOT of your SD CARD.
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Is this the file underneath the CyanogenMOD that is named Google ION? It does the exact same thing that the CyanogenMOD file does when you click it. Re-opens that same page in another browser.
I have no problem following the instructions once there is a clear link to the files one actually needs to complete this process. I'm not trying to be difficult, the ability to root to Cyanogen on xda developers is, right now, broken.

whodatfever said:
I downloaded the Android SDK
Where is fastboot?
Do I have to do this? : (from Cyanogen's Wiki)
Instructions from Android Developers and ADB, Fastboot, and Nandroid for Noob
Download the latest Android SDK.
Unzip to C:\AndroidSDK
Right-click on (My) Computer, and select Properties
Go to Advanced settings
XP: Click the Advanced tab
Vista/7: Click Advanced system settings on the left
Click the Environment Variables button
double-click on Path (under System Variables)
Add the full path to the tools/ directory:
C:\AndroidSDK\tools\
(make sure a semicolon ( separates this new path from all the others) Latest windows version appears to need: "C:\AndroidSDK\android-sdk-windows\tools", install location may have changed. (sorry I don't know how to format this correctly!)
Run C:\AndroidSDK\SDK Setup.exe
If it gives you an error go to settings and click on "Force http//....."
Unselect all options except for the USB driver
If you can't get the setup to work, download the USB-DRIVERS folder - HERE (Windows XP/Vista/Windows 7)
On your phone, click Settings > Applications > Development and make sure USB Debugging is on.
Plug your phone into your computer via USB cable (it needs to be on). It should say installing drivers if using Windows.
After it installs the drivers, goto the Start menu and type cmd into the search bar (Vista or higher) or click Run then type in cmd (XP) to open the command prompt.
Type the following into the command prompt window:adb devices
You should see a serial number pop up, it’s the serial number of your phone. This means you are all set. If you do NOT see a serial number, then we need to reinstall the drivers.
Download USBDeview
While the phone is still plugged in, open USBDeview and sort by manufacturer. Find all the HTC/Android drivers and uninstall them all. (Windows Vista requires program to be run as an administrator, otherwise files won't uninstall.)
Once all have been uninstalled, unplug the phone from the USB cable and plug it back in.
The correct drivers should reinstall automatically (check the drivers as they are installing, one should say ADB Device driver).
To check, go to Devices in your Start menu then click on the “Android Phone”. Click on the Hardware tab, and check the list of drivers for ADB Interface under Type.
Done! Now you can use ADB to alter your phone from your computer.
I have Amon RA Recovery Image.
Please go to the Cyanogen Page and tell me where that is. The only link that states CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 will lead to another tab opening with the exact same page as the one you just left. Check for yourself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
Is this the file underneath the CyanogenMOD that is named Google ION? It does the exact same thing that the CyanogenMOD file does when you click it. Re-opens that same page in another browser.
I have no problem following the instructions once there is a clear link to the files one actually needs to complete this process. I'm not trying to be difficult, the ability to root to Cyanogen on xda developers is, right now, broken.
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Cyanogen has moved the download to the CyanogenMod web page.
If you have sdk, and fastboot, on you machine and you have already put on amon-ra recovery, then you should be set to go.
Go to Cyanogen Mod.com and click the link to download the latest stable release. If you are in the US. I recommend that you get the new ERE36B radio. You should flash it as well. Just read up on flashing radios and plug in your phone, dont pull the battery during the radio flash and always md5sum a radio image no matter what. The radio is the only area where flashing has the potential to be dangerous.
Good luck and welcome to the Cyanogen World, you will never go back!

Gr8gorilla said:
Cyanogen has moved the download to the CyanogenMod web page.
If you have sdk, and fastboot, on you machine and you have already put on amon-ra recovery, then you should be set to go.
Go to Cyanogen Mod.com and click the link to download the latest stable release. If you are in the US. I recommend that you get the new ERE36B radio. You should flash it as well. Just read up on flashing radios and plug in your phone, dont pull the battery during the radio flash and always md5sum a radio image no matter what. The radio is the only area where flashing has the potential to be dangerous.
Good luck and welcome to the Cyanogen World, you will never go back!
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What is the difference between the Cyanogen's N1 Addon which I am getting from this tutorial:
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/hacks/video-how-to-unlock-and-root-a-nexus-one/
and the ROMS available on this page (and which one do I download. There's a dozen!)
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/downloads/rom
Where do I download the radio and why is ERE36B better in the USA? A poster above said I should stay with the one I have (27).

addon - vs mod
whodatfever said:
What is the difference between the Cyanogen's N1 Addon which I am getting from this tutorial:
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/hacks/video-how-to-unlock-and-root-a-nexus-one/
and the ROMS available on this page (and which one do I download. There's a dozen!)
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/downloads/rom
Where do I download the radio and why is ERE36B better in the USA? A poster above said I should stay with the one I have (27).
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The add-on was what Cyanogen made before google released the source code for android 2.1. It is not a full custom rom.
The ROM's ie. 5.0.4.1 is all the Cyanogen tweaks, highmem etc. 360 degree rotation (left right and upside down if you enable it) and all sorts of stuff.
You really should try both radios and see which one works better for you. Some people have better results with one and some the other. I have the best continuous 3G/HSPDA signal with the ERE36B radio.
On Cyanogen mod forum, go to nexus one and there is a link to get the latest stable ROM 5.0.4.1 that is what you want. You have to also download the Google add-on.
Cyan used to include them but got a nice letter from google telling him he was not allowed to "optimize" their stuff. So he puts it in a separate package as is, and you have to flash it after you flash his rom to get the google apps.
Google apps will be called: gapps-passionERE36B(2) or something very similar.
I am willing to answer any questions you have just send me a pm.

andythefan said:
Same here. I'm temped every day to root and unlock the benefits, but I don't know if it's worth voiding my warranty :\
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there is a thread here about your warranty and as long as you have a problem that is a legit hardware defect HTC has been replacing them, dust under screen bad battery, and a few other things.

GR8Gorilla. Thank you for all of this. It was a convoluted mess trying to decipher some of the tutorials. I am very grateful and am starting the process in a few minutes. I'll let you know how it goes and thank you again.

whodatfever said:
GR8Gorilla. Thank you for all of this. It was a convoluted mess trying to decipher some of the tutorials. I am very grateful and am starting the process in a few minutes. I'll let you know how it goes and thank you again.
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Remember if and when you flash the radio, plug in phone, and whatever you do, do not pull the battery while it is doing the radio. That is the biggest NO NO. It can make a nice nexus One paperweight. As long as you dont pull the battery you will be fine. I have flashed mine about 4 or 5 times....and I have flashed roms about 1000 times.
The phone is going to reboot a couple of times during a radio flash, be patient.

[Q] Porting Meego to the Tab, some Android noob questions before I start

Hi chaps,
I've just bought a Galaxy tab with plans to port Meego to the device.
I'm new to all the Android stuff, and tbh the myriad methods for doing this/that/the other and the relative lack of explanation of what's actually being done in these various methods/tools is quite confusing (and worrying).
So, if you'll bear with me, I have a few questions which are probably quite basic.
I've rooted my Tab using SuperOneClick, no problems there, I also understand that there is a leaked flashing tool called (Multi)Odin and an open source flashing tool called Heimdall. I understand adb.
So onto the questions:
Before I start messing about, how should I backup my existing firmware image? I see people talking about taking image dumps using dd, or Odin or Heimdall. What is the preferred method? And how should one then restore the device from these backups?
Alternatively is it possible to simply download the firmware directly from Samsung (I see links to later firmware, but really I'd be happy with what I have currently - P1000XXJK5 and FROYO.XWJJ7)?
I'm assuming that the best installation method would be to replace recovery, then I can add my own kernel and have it boot a rootfs mounted on the external SD card for example. Any thoughts?
I've seen one thread about people compiling their own kernels, with panics and the like which are solved by giving the full path to the initramfs extracted from the existing image. Any clues as to why the built version doesn't work? This is not so important as I can have a look at this when I build the Samsung source.
Is anyone looking at the bootloaders? Is there any information anywhere about them (as changing the bootloader to allow selection of the kernel to be booted would make life easier)?
Thanks for your patience!

Ok, so to partly answer myself, I see www dot samfirmware dot com has links to downloads of firmware images.
I'd really prefer to generate my own image of what's currently on the device rather than trusting a download site, but I guess it's better than nothing. Does anyone know how these images were generated anyway?

lardman said:
Ok, so to partly answer myself, I see www dot samfirmware dot com has links to downloads of firmware images.
I'd really prefer to generate my own image of what's currently on the device rather than trusting a download site, but I guess it's better than nothing. Does anyone know how these images were generated anyway?
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Samfirmware get their images direct from Samsung insiders. They are not dumps.
If you want to dump from your device search "rotobackup" here in the dev forum.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk

alias_neo said:
Samfirmware get their images direct from Saunaing insiders. They are not dumps.
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Ok that's reassuring.
alias_neo said:
If you want to dump from your device search "rotobackup" here in the dev forum.
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Great, just what I was looking for, many thanks

So some more questions:
Any limit to the size of the kernel? Presumably just the size of the partition (which after extracting the image for backup seems to be a pretty large 15.4MB)?
What do all the .rc files in the raminitfs do? They are as follows: fota.rc, init.goldfish.rc, init.rc, init.smdkc110.rc, lpm.rc, recovery.rc
The init.rc is the normal init.rc file, so that's fine. Presumably the recovery.rc file is run if the bootloader detects that recovery mode is wanted (holding down keys during boot). The init.goldfish.rc? I guess this is to do with the emulator, though why it would be in a release image I don't know.
I assume that init.smdkc110.rc is automatically run somewhere along the line, though I don't see where it's started.
Any thoughts on lpm.rc and fota.rc? Are multiple .rc files run for the normal and recovery boots?
Thanks

lpm.rc is for low power mode that displays battery charging animation
goldfish is for running the rom under qemu.
backup your rom using rotobackup. compile samsung's kernel from sources, mix up default initramfs with meego's init scripts. pack all Meego stuff into loop mounted disk image. then flash zImage to kernel and your disk image to factoryfs using heimdall. I assume you have experience hacking N8xx/N900 and Maemo or Meego?
factoryfs is around 300MB so I think it should fit Meego and it (and kernel) can be easily restored with heimdall.

Thanks for the comprehensive reply
Yes I do have experience hacking Maemo/Meego, though have never really had to fiddle with init scripts before and this is as good a reason as any to learn.
I'd actually like to dual boot, so am modifying recovery.rc to bring up the Meego system on the external SD card.
Am just fiddling about building extra kernel modules now (needs btrfs for my image for example) and modifying the recovery.rc file.

Hmm, well I was all set to go and flash my new zImage and was looking for the heimdall command line, when I saw this at the top of one of the threads in this part of the forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870690):
Restoring to factory after using this process (you need using stock images):
heimdall flash --kernel stockzImage --recovery stockzImage --factoryfs factoryfs.rfs
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Which has made me worry a bit that I've missed a recovery partition with its own kernel and wrongly assumed that the same kernel is used for both recovery and normal running, just with a different .rc file to be interpreted by init.
Any thoughts?

Do we trust the partition sizes reported here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9471190&postcount=14
They seem very small for the kernel partition. I used RotoHammer's dd method to grab the contents of the partitions as a backup, so am assuming the sizes shown above are not correct (or represent something else?)
Going back to RECOVERY and ZIMAGE partitions - the ZIMAGE partition contains a recovery.rc, the question is really whether, even if they use the same zImage in both the ZIMAGE and RECOVERY partitions, the version in the RECOVERY partition is actually booted if recovery mode is selected (by holding the up volume key, etc.)? OTOH it may be that the RECOVERY partition is either empty or unused, has anyone tested specifically to see whether recovery.rc is run from the ZIMAGE partition?

Well I think I can answer my own question there, I flashed my modified kernel (modified recovery.rc) only to the KERNEL partition, and it boots normally if I don't touch anything, and just gets stuck on the first Samsung screen if I boot in recovery mode.
So it's doing something, I just can't tell what. Not sure if any kernel messages are getting lost behind that image, or perhaps they aren't even output to the framebuffer at all. I seem to remember seeing something about disabling the splashscreen so I'll go and have a look for that. Anyone got any other suggestions?
P.S. I also note there's a flash of screen corruption as the device starts up with my new kernel, I don't remember seeing that before. Is this a usual occurance?

I see from the Nexus S port that including adbd in the image seems to be the way to go for early messages, I'll need to generate a new Meego image and have another go later on.

Interesting, I can't see that I've done anything wrong, and my extra init shell script is not started. I am trying to use the "exec" keyword in recovery.rc to start a shell script which will pass control to the Meego rootfs. At the start of my shell script I start adbd (i.e. still within the initramfs), so I should be able to tell if it has started, and it doesn't appear to do so.
Therefore I did some Googling, and I've seen that in some cases the initramfs init does not implement the "exec" keyword (http://forum.samdroid.net/f9/new-init-exec-import-implemented-3280/). This is troublesome for me as it's what I'm trying to use, but at least would explain why I don't seem to leave the init process
I couldn't see the Samsung specific source for init anywhere, has anyone found any? I'm not happy to replace it using the standard Android source as I'm guessing there's code missing which allows the bootloader to tell init how the device was started so that it knows which of the .rc files to run. Has anyone looked into this?
Thanks

Looking at the code in that link it looks pretty straightforward, just a case of parsing the kernel command line (though I might just reverse engineer the existing init first to make sure I'm not missing anything).
Would still be easier to get the actual source code from Samsung, so I've emailed their Open Source group.

lardman said:
P.S. I also note there's a flash of screen corruption as the device starts up with my new kernel, I don't remember seeing that before. Is this a usual occurance?
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I get it with CM

Does CM use a compressed initramfs? I'm using one of those and wondering if it's something to do with the (admittedly small) extra time required to move to init.
I don't have my Tab with me here, could someone post the output of /proc/cmdline please? You'll need to be root. Thanks.

Well it's booting you'll all be glad to hear.
More details to follow, but from memory the following were required:
Custom kernel to add btrfs support (as the image I'm booting is a btrfs partition on the external SD); kernel patch to allow compile-time cmdline to be added to the end of the bootloader cmdline (to enable console=tty0); replace Android init with init script to perform some basic setup then pivot_root to the Meego partition.
Next steps are to get the Meego system running usefully (which includes getting a terminal as currently I just have a login prompt but no way of inputting anything!) and also seeing whether I can get dual booting working with an Android system standard boot and Meego replacing the recovery boot.
Poor pic, but still: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/Tab/PICT0040.JPG

Good stuff. Thanks for keeping us informed.

After you've got the groundwork for this done, how easy would it be to get Ubuntu running?

Try google http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+on+galaxy+tab
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brilldoctor said:
Try google http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+on+galaxy+tab
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That's using chroot, which I don't want. I want it running natively.
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SUCCESS !! :) FM Radio app by HTC: Reverse Engineer: Please help

I'm working to enable FM radio functionality, RX and TX on HTC Legend and other devices with TI FM chip.
I need help to get this done ASAP. I'm an experienced embedded Linux dev, but I'm pretty new to smartphones and Android.
A few weeks back I managed to muddle my way through on phone gold card creation, downgrading, rooting, CWMod (2.5 ?) installation, CMMod7 nightly install, S-Off and new Radio flash. Since then I haven't flashed anything and probably forgot half of what I learned.
So now I want to flash the best ROM for the purpose of figuring out the audio routing "secrets" of the HTC FM app. Any suggestions for the best ROM for that purpose ?
Next, I could use some pointers to the best posts or web pages to refer to for flashing the HTC Rom, and then later flashing back to CM7. As easy as possible. Can I do something Nandroid like and save the entire state of the phone to easily get me back to where I started with CM7 ?
Yes, I AM a dev, but very much appreciate easy to follow step by steps that don't leave me scratching my head wondering if I'll brick my device or create some other catastrophy . Eg: Should I ignore those error messages or not worry ? Do I have to reboot 5 times while clicking my heels ? Etc.
Once I get the above figured out, perhaps this thread can be used for discussion of the observations and any reverse engineering results.
Thanks !

Well, the best ROM would probably be BlaY0's, as it has the FM functionality. Take a nandroid of that and then install CM (as that's what your developing for, ye?). Then nandroid the CM and you can easily switch between the 2 without the need to set it up again.
BlaY0's ROM is based of the official HTC one, so it would probably do for the reverse engineering stuff. Thus I don't think you'd need to go back to a stock HTC ROM. If you do you can just flash a pre-rooted one (found here) and that would do it.

TheGrammarFreak said:
Well, the best ROM would probably be BlaY0's, as it has the FM functionality. Take a nandroid of that and then install CM (as that's what your developing for, ye?). Then nandroid the CM and you can easily switch between the 2 without the need to set it up again.
BlaY0's ROM is based of the official HTC one, so it would probably do for the reverse engineering stuff. Thus I don't think you'd need to go back to a stock HTC ROM. If you do you can just flash a pre-rooted one (found here) and that would do it.
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OK, thanks GrammarFreak. BlaY0's ROM 0.7 it is.
Hate to be/seem so newb-ish....
So I'm running CM7 now. So:
(1) Run ROM Manager Backup.
(2) Watch phone go into recovery mode with red triangle and exclamation mark.
(3) Don't freak as the backup will take maybe 10-20 minutes or so.
(4) Phone reboots back to CM7 I presume.
(5) Pull any important data from sdcard including ROM backup files.
(6) Download http://blay0.r3volutionary.net/b-0.7.zip
(7) Run ROM Manager to flash Blayo.
(8) Reboot and mess around with Blayo ROM.
(9) When done messing, optionally save Blayo ROM and mods with ROM Manager Backup.
(10) Use ROM Manager restore to return to CM7 ROM.
Sound good ? I don't even have to remember which key when booting brings up CWMod recovery mode ?
I couldn't find a canonical web page documenting CWMod/ROM Manager and it's usage.
Gee my phone has been stuck in red mode for a while now...
EDIT: So I'm reading threads and getting the impression the red triangle is not what I want. So I run "adb reboot" and will check and see if the backup looks good.
I can understand that the "community" has to somehow pull together to pool info, but my experience seems typical of what so many face.
In order to figure out some sort of semi-foolproof method of doing XYZ it seems I have to search threads all over to collect the full info. 50-100+ page threads are a challenge. Do I start with the first few posts or pages of posts, or should I skip to somewhere near the end for latest info ? Yes I can read to see if first posts are updated etc.
Before I started the rooting process on my phone, I read QUITE a few big threads from begin to end. And I made LOTS of notes to try and figure it all out and avoid problems. And my head got so full it almost exploded, and I almost sorta gave up, dived in, did a few more google searches on the way and thankfully finally ended up with a nicely open device.
But it all seems so ridiculously difficult, UNLESS you happen to come across some very succinct, accurate and informative HOWTO somewhere that works well for you.
/rant off

Ok, I want you to do a couple of things:
Forget about ROM manager, it's a piece or crap and it creates more problems than it solves.
So, you said you performed S-OFF, correct? Did you let the S-OFF procedure install ClockworkMOD recovery? Given the red triangle of doom I doubt it. No worries. Here's what you do:
Download this (it's the ADB tools) to a known location. Then extract the zip to a known location. Open a command window in that location (for the sake of this guide: C:\ADB) So open CMD (start, run, type CMD, hit enter) In CMD type "cd C:\ADB". Plug your phone into the computer (make sure you're using CM). Debugging mode should be on (you'll get a notification in the status bar of your phone). Now, I want you to download this (CWM 2.5) and save it to C:\ADB. In CMD type "adb push recovery.img /sdcard" Wait for it to complete. It will output a file-size, time taken and resultant transfer rate. When it's completed type "adb shell". You'll end up with a "#" and nothing else (if you get a "$" just type "su" and hit enter, and on the phone's screen accept the Superuser request). Now, type "flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img", let it do it's thang. When you see the "#" type "reboot recovery", and your phone will reboot to CWM. This is what I refer to as a win
Now, from clockworkMOD you can use the trackball (move and click) to select "backup/restore" then "backup". Let it do its stuff. Once backed up you can flash B-0.7 and then back that up. Note down the name of each backup so you know which is which

TheGrammarFreak said:
Ok, I want you to do a couple of things:
Forget about ROM manager, it's a piece or crap and it creates more problems than it solves.
So, you said you performed S-OFF, correct? Did you let the S-OFF procedure install ClockworkMOD recovery? Given the red triangle of doom I doubt it. No worries. Here's what you do:
Download this (it's the ADB tools) to a known location. Then extract the zip to a known location. Open a command window in that location (for the sake of this guide: C:\ADB) So open CMD (start, run, type CMD, hit enter) In CMD type "cd C:\ADB". Plug your phone into the computer (make sure you're using CM). Debugging mode should be on (you'll get a notification in the status bar of your phone). Now, I want you to download this (CWM 2.5) and save it to C:\ADB. In CMD type "adb push recovery.img /sdcard" Wait for it to complete. It will output a file-size, time taken and resultant transfer rate. When it's completed type "adb shell". You'll end up with a "#" and nothing else (if you get a "$" just type "su" and hit enter, and on the phone's screen accept the Superuser request). Now, type "flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img", let it do it's thang. When you see the "#" type "reboot recovery", and your phone will reboot to CWM. This is what I refer to as a win
Now, from clockworkMOD you can use the trackball (move and click) to select "backup/restore" then "backup". Let it do its stuff. Once backed up you can flash B-0.7 and then back that up. Note down the name of each backup so you know which is which
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Thanks for the newb-friendly instructions. Much of I don't need, but may help others.
I'm running Linux, I've had adb etc installed for 2 weeks. I've got the SDK installed w/ Eclipse but never tried it, but have done App Inventor. And I've been poking around in the innards of the various source codes, binaries, firmwares and other files for the last 2 weeks too.
OK, I'll "Forget about ROM manager" and just use CWM after manually rebooting into it with Volume Down or whatever.
I'm pretty positive I'm S-OFF and have CWM 2.5.0.0.7 or so installed. ROM Manager says so. I have CWM on before I S-Offed using the Bell/Virgin modified alpharev boot disk.
I'll do the backup manually with CWM later tonight when I get back to this. I checked the SD and the backup isn't there, although there are still 3 backups I took when I installed CM7 2 weeks ago.
So I guess I do a complete flush or wipe or whatever when installing the new (or a backed up) ROM ? And since the backup is a nandroid type it will absolutely restore to exactly the same state as when the backup was taken ? But the SD card is not touched...
EDIT:
"adb reboot recovery" gives me red triangle of doom.
"adb reboot bootloader" gives me AlphaRev and I see S-Off and HBOOT 1.000000000
Did AlphaRev remove CWM ?

Given that you get the red triangle we can assume you don't have CWM installed to /recovery, you have it in fakeflash. Nothing inherently wrong with that, just FYI
As for your rant in post numero uno, I've often considered trying to put together a comprehensive "document" on the matter, but it'd take an age and would probably raise more questions than it'd answer.
"adb reboot recovery" gives me red triangle of doom.
"adb reboot bootloader" gives me AlphaRev and I see S-Off and HBOOT 1.000000000
Did AlphaRev remove CWM ?
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See above about fakeflash. You could well use the image I linked above and use flash_image on the phone or fastboot to flash it

Fakeflash is pretty easy, I either do that or do my business in rom manager as I find that easy.
Rom manager method for installing a new rom:
If rom manager isn't installed, do so from the market
start up rom manager
tap "backup current ROM" (I suggest naming your backup, I just use the rom name)
Let it reboot and do it's thing
When it's booted back into CM7, open up rom manager again
tap "install ROM from SD card"
browse your sd for your rom and tap it.
You are presented with 2 check box options
Since we already backed up make sure "backup existing rom" is unchecked
If you are flashing a new rom, make sure "Wipe Data and Cache" is checked
If you are flashing a newer version of the same rom, you can leave this area unchecked as it will not erase the stuff stored on the phones built in memory
Press ok, let it do it's thing and thats it.
Place the fakeflash update.zip from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698404 on the root of your sd card
turn off your phone
Hold the volume down button as you press the power button
using the volume buttons, navigate to "recovery"
press power
your phone will reboot to th red triangle (of DOOOM)
Don't panic, hold volume up and press power (if it gives you an error just wait few seconds)
Using the volume buttons to scroll and power for enter choose "apply sdcard:update.zip"
Use the trackball and go to "Nandroid" if you are using ClockWorkMod 2.5.xxx fake flash or "backup and recovery" if you are using ClockWorkMod 3.xxx
hit "backup"
Let it do it's thing
If you're installing a new rom, scroll to "wipe data/factory reset", wait, then choose "wipe cache partition". If your installing a newer version of the same rom, don't bother.
Scroll to "install zip from sdcard"
scroll to "choose zip from sdcard"
choose your zip, let it do it's thing, and thats that.
You're SD is not touched at all during flashing, no need to backup those files.
Wow, can't believe I typed all that out...

TheGrammarFreak said:
As for your rant in post numero uno, I've often considered trying to put together a comprehensive "document" on the matter, but it'd take an age and would probably raise more questions than it'd answer.
See above about fakeflash. You could well use the image I linked above and use flash_image on the phone or fastboot to flash it
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Re: rant, don't want to come off as complaining, I KNOW documenting semi-foolproof procedures is tons of work, to do properly. I understand a big problem is consideration of the large set of combinations of ROMs, recoveries, apps, S-On/S-Off states, Radios, etc.
OK, cool, I want "realflash" type recovery then. I guess that's one reason to have S-Off ?
I had to slightly alter your first command by appending a '/'.
EDIT: WOOHOO ! Success I think ! Feel free to skip the rest of this post unless you want to hear the details of my adventure...
Thank you ! Editing this post the last hour I wrote "Success ! " here anticipating such, but alas, I have some issue.
I don't know if I have to be extra patient as deodexing happens, Or if I'm stuck in some boot loop... I see "HTC quietly brilliant" and screen flashing on and off and re-writing the HTC spam.
Re: HTC FM app. OK, cool, I see :
ls -l /system/app/HtcFMRadio.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 826176 2008-08-01 07:00 HtcFMRadio.apk
And bluetooth. Is there any way to switch normal media output, like from TuneIn radio etc, to my cheap new bluetooth headset ? I pushed the button in CM7 and I see I could start a voice dial, but I figured BT would take over all audio I desired routed through it.
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I did:
adb push recovery.img /sdcard/
adb shell flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img
adb reboot recovery
In the CWM menu I had to select "Nandroid", and then "Backup".
That completed.
I didn't want to bother rebooting, so manually grabbed the backup files:
adb shell ls -l /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/
adb shell ls -l /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/2011-02-27.03.19.57/
mkdir cm7backup-2011-02-27.03.19.57
cd cm7backup-2011-02-27.03.19.57
adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/2011-02-27.03.19.57/boot.img
adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/2011-02-27.03.19.57/cache.img
adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/2011-02-27.03.19.57/data.img
adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/2011-02-27.03.19.57/nandroid.md5
adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/2011-02-27.03.19.57/recovery.img
adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/2011-02-27.03.19.57/system.img
Then to be sure:
cat nandroid.md5
md5sum *.img
Yes, looks good ! Now for Blayo:
cd ..
adb push b-0.7.zip /sdcard/
Goto CWM. Version 2.5.0.1, I had a 7 at the end before. Fine I'm sure.
Use volume up/down to select install from a ZIP. Press power to select. Oh, oh, shoulda used the trackball switch as it powered off.
Whoops, press power again and screen comes back, LOL. Choose zip from sdcard and use trackball switch this time. Move and select Blayo b-0.7.zip
Wonderfully wacky confirmation. Error message saying it can't find the zip file. Hmmm....
Reboot a few times and finally do "adb reboot recovery" and retry install from ZIP.
No go, get:
-- Installing: SDCARD:b-0.7.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E:Can't open sdcard/b-0.7.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted.
Try to open 98 MB zip file. No go. AHA ! corrupted file.
Try download from mirror 2: http://www.dkmdesign.dk/custom_roms/blay0/b-0.7.zip File is supposed to be 126 MB.
Gee I'm glad there's an unzip process that checks the integrity of ROM flashes.
So again:
adb push b-0.7.zip /sdcard/
And install, running..... Done !
Try to use power button to reboot. Use back key and "reboot system now". Cross fingers and offer the gods sacrifices...
See androids on skateboards again. Recall I may have to be patient as deodexing happens... See "HTC quietly brilliant" spam,,, in this context,good. Waiting....
Waiting.... screen flashing on and off and writing the HTC mind control spam.
Try reboot when tired of waiting and same thing. AFAICT, from "adb shell ls * etc" on the filesystem, Blayo ROM is installed but just won't stop flashing the HTC logo.

speedyink said:
If you are flashing a new rom, make sure "Wipe Data and Cache" is checked
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Thanks. Maybe that's my boot loop or whatever problem now. I didn't recall seeing that option, but should be there with CWMod, so I'll try installing Blayo again after that.
There was some Wipe in main menu, and another w/ factory reset. Also in advanced menu I selected Wipe Dalvik cache. I left the Battery Stats alone. Hmmm. Naah !
Did all 3 wipe twice for good luck. Rebooted in between. Installed. Now waiting... Oh here's the HTC screen again. Time to read the Blayo thread to see how long to wait. etc.
Man what a pain ! Yet likely a world easier than the new paths I attempted to forge on my previous LG Optimus Chic resulting in a hard brick, LOL.
WOOHOO ! Success I think !

Welcome to the BlaY0 universe.. Just remember that many of us went through this journey as well to have our phone in same state Glad you got to fully download the BlaY0 rom from my mirror.. now happy reverse engineering..
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whitetigerdk said:
Welcome to the BlaY0 universe.. Just remember that many of us went through this journey as well to have our phone in same state Glad you got to fully download the BlaY0 rom from my mirror.. now happy reverse engineering..
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Thanks. Figured I was finished messing with such nasties once I had CM.
(In case you aren't aware, I have scripts that make the FM radio "work" on CM7. I can scan and see RSSI as expected etc. Only "problem" is I haven't figured out the audio routing part yet so no sound, which is why I'm exploring the HTC app for it's special tricks.)
What I want to do now is try running my hcitool scripts and see if they work on Blayo ROM.
If yes, then the Blayo ROM has something the CM7 ROM needs.
If no, then there's likely some magic step required on either stock ROM or CM7 ROM and likely the HTC FM app is doing that step, directly or indirectly.
But the needed hcitool is not on Blayo ROM. I find 3 of the hci utils and install them. Now I can't get hciattach running, which I think is needed for hcitool.
I'm guessing I can edit /init.legend.rc and change service hciattach to enabled. Reboot and no dice. Try running from command line also with no luck. At one point it hung, but now:
# hciattach -n -s 115200 /dev/ttyHS0 texasalt 4000000 flow
Unknown device type or id
# hciattach -n -s 115200 /dev/ttyHS0 any 4000000 flow
Can't set device: Device or resource busy
Can't initialize device: Device or resource busy
# hciattach -n -s 115200 /dev/ttyHS0 any
Can't set device: Device or resource busy
Can't initialize device: Device or resource busy

Waiting with baited breath
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Waiting with baited breath
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Bated ? Baited=fish
Well AFAICT, the world of Bluez bluetooth and hciattach, hcitool, hciconfig and hcidump doesn't get along with the TI BT stack world of btipsd and btipds_cli.
I'll have to bust out the NDK and start trying APIs.
But FIRST, I'm happy to report that btipds_cli is a pretty interesting and cool tool. Once I rebooted, turned BT on and learned the quirky UI, it wasn't too long before I had FM audio coming out of the speakers or the headphone.
I even tried a BT over FM option in another menu, but no go. Next I'll try the FM Tx, cause I'd REALLY like to see if that works.
btipds_cli doesn't seem to want to start FM a second time though, so a few reboots might be needed for testing.
I think it's possible that the "14.start_audiO" option in the "4.fm_Rx/" is the missing link for FM in non HTC ROMs. I don't know yet if it initiates a digital PCM / SCO connection or just switches analog. I don't see any new processes for that but btipsd might be doing the good stuff.

Following this thread with great interest..
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I still can't get the transmitter to work, despite all the commands seeming successful. Both with hcitool on CM7 and btipsd_ci on Blayo0.7.
So I think one, or both, of the following are the TX issues:
(A) - It is somehow disabled by the hardware. The Tx antenna pin could be tied to ground, perhaps even through a capacitor or something. It may even just be unconnected and unable to transmit a few inches because it's inside an RF shield.
(B) - The firmware file for the FM portion disables TX, yet the registers still respond as if it works.
(A) would be difficult to infeasible to fix.
(B) should be fixable by loading a firmware file from a TI FM chip device that is known to support transmission.
For a TI based device that is known to transmit, I presume firmware files for a TI or TI partner evaluation board may work.

So far I can't get hciattach and hcitool etc working on BlaY0 ROM.
I HAVE, however, gotten btipsd and btipsd_cli to work on CM7. I had to create the /data/btips directory and am running btipsd manually in foreground.
What I find is exactly the same as with my hcitool scripts: everything seems to work but actual sound doesn't exit the device. Even after doing everything else the same as with BlaY0 ROM.
The /etc/firmware files on both ROMs are identical.
So I'm thinking there is some other thing separating the two ROMs. Could be some HTC customized library, or a config file or who knows.

Hi Mike, your work is appreciated, i hope you wil get it to work. We have great legend dev's. Please BlaYo and. Ali Ba, help this guy!

mikereidis said:
I HAVE, however, gotten btipsd and btipsd_cli to work on CM7. I had to create the /data/btips directory and am running btipsd manually in foreground.
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Then you got as far as I did a few months ago. The btipsd stuff can be found in the original init.legend.rc, if you are interested.
mikereidis said:
So I'm thinking there is some other thing separating the two ROMs. Could be some HTC customized library, or a config file or who knows.
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"Customized library" applies here, but that's in fact a euphemism for "all kinds of proprietary code in the framework".
I gave up reverse engineering after looking at the disassembled HTC radio application. As I already told you there are loads of pointers to closed source TI code that can be found in the framework (= /system/lib/whatever.so). You will have to reverse engineer all those rpcs, libandroid_servers and god knows whatnot.

ali ba said:
I gave up reverse engineering after looking at the disassembled HTC radio application. As I already told you there are loads of pointers to closed source TI code that can be found in the framework (= /system/lib/whatever.so). You will have to reverse engineer all those rpcs, libandroid_servers and god knows whatnot.
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Oh, there must be SOME shortcut...
Since I have the FM radio and audio working with the btipsd_cli. I'm not sure the answer would lie in the HTC FM app. Or at least the answer is in btipsd_cli also.
I'd love to find the source to btipsd_cli. I DO have source for TI's fmapp and fmstack-0.12 and I can see they share some, but not all code.
In a log I can see an HCI command is sent when audio starts; I just don't know which one or with which parameters.
btipsd_cli has some rather weird bugs that prevent me from experimenting well with audio routing. When I disable analog, audio keeps playing. At first I thought it was using digital, but now I think it's part of the buginess. When I select various digital options, various weird things happen, including a crash in btipsd for most of them.
If I can run some HCI queries, I might get better clues or the actual answer. I managed to get hciattach to sort of work with "texas" as the type, but I think I need "texasalt" and the binary I have that runs on Blayo doesn't support it. The CM7 binaries wont run on Blayo.
So unless there are some other tools I can use, I'm wondering if it's time to write an NDK app.
Unless I can increase the verbosity of the btipsd logging to tell me everything it's doing. Will check.

These AudioRouting strings aren't in the CM7 libandroid_runtime so I tried pushing the Blayo lib to CM7. GUI never boots fully, but no audio still using the btipsd_cli.
Same when I also replace libandroid_servers.so, bluez-plugin/audio.so and bluez-plugin/input.so
strings blayo/system/lib/libandroid_runtime.so |grep -i audiorouting
FM_RX_DisableAudioRouting
FM_RX_EnableAudioRouting
nativeJFmRx_SetAudioRouting(): Entered
nativeJFmRx_SetAudioRouting: fmapp_set_audio_routing() returned %d
nativeJFmRx_SetAudioRouting(): Exit
nativeJFmRx_disableAudioRouting(): Entered
nativeJFmRx_disableAudioRouting: FM_RX_DisableAudioRouting() returned %d
nativeJFmRx_disableAudioRouting(): Exit
nativeJFmRx_enableAudioRouting(): Entered
nativeJFmRx_enableAudioRouting: FM_RX_EnableAudioRouting() returned %d
nativeJFmRx_enableAudioRouting(): Exit
nativeJFmRx_EnableAudioRouting
nativeJFmRx_DisableAudioRouting
nativeJFmRx_SetAudioRouting
FM_RX_DisableAudioRouting
FM_RX_EnableAudioRouting
DisableAudioRouting
EnableAudioRouting

[HOW-TO/INFO] Bell FAQ [9-25-2011]

This is my attempt at a Bell FAQ, it is a work in progress.
Q. Why don't the instructions I found on how to do X not work?A. This is a development forum, sometimes things are written in shorthand assuming you know things you don't. At lot of things are specific to one carrier's phone or another. Sometimes things change and are now obsolete, something new was found, a better way of doing things, if you were not following it all along you are likely to be lost. Read between the lines, you are a human being with reasoning abilities, figure it out. Q. What should I do first?
A. Backup your phone. That means everything, especially your pds partition. Nandroid won't cut it and you have already modified your phone beyond the ability to get back if you can run it.
Ex. dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 of=/sdcard/backup/mmcblk0p3
Save your backup on your computer, create a zip of all the files, burn it off on cd/dvd, put it in a safety deposit box at your bank. Be prepared for bricking your phone. A lot of things mentioned in threads here are developed and tested for ATT phones, they may not work 100% on your phone.Q. What is ADB?A. It stands for Android Debug Bridge or something like that. It is a program that runs on your computer that lets you talk to your phone using special commands. Your phone has to have adb enabled, it's a setting under application/development.
Ex. adb shell
This opens a linux shell connected to your phone. Linux is an operating system for computers, it is also used as the base for android phones.
Ex. adb install file.apk
Ex. adb push file /tmp
Ex. adb pull /tmp/file .
Q. What is CWM recovery?A. Android phones come with a special boot configuration that allows for changes to the android system from a place outside the system. It is very corporate and does the job for official signed updates, but only Motorola and it's oems can sign the updates. Not much fun for us. CWM recovery is a replacement for the official recovery system that doesn't require signed updates.
You install CWM recovery using fastboot or moto-fastboot.Q. What is unlocking the bootloader all about?A. It is the means of putting CWM recovery on your phone so you can install roms and other packages. It allows you to flash a partition with mods and have the phone not soft brick when you reboot. When the unlocked versions of the atrix bootloader were found it started a new round of mods. A lot of the threads prior to that are now obsolete.Q. How do I unlock the bootloader?A. There is a huge thread already about this, see here.
WARNING: this is a permanent change to your phone.
Summary:
1. Download the archive
2. Extract the sbf inside, whatever it's called, that is the one to use.
3. Use linux sbf_flash or rsdlite from windows to install it.
3. fastboot oem unlock
4. Copy code fastboot spits out.
5. fastboot oem unlock code
6. fastboot reboot
You will see unlocked while booting and when you get into android you will have ~300MB of ram. This will need to be fixed. Also, you will lose all your data during the process, do a backup first.Q. What is fastboot/moto-fastboot?A. It's a program to access the phone and do stuff, write phone partition images mostly. The stock one can only handle tiny system images, pretty useless for the Atrix, xda member eval- compiled the motorola version for us that can handle larger system images, do a search for moto-fastboot.
Ex. moto-fastboot flash recovery recovery.img.Q. How do I fix the ram problem?A. I did up a CWM recovery zip to update the boot and recovery partitions to contain a kernel command line with the missing bit "[email protected]" added. See here.
There are other means of doing this, some boot images come prepackaged with the command line already embedded. There are ATT compiled kernels with a patch inside the kernel itself to do the same thing. You can search for those when you are ready to try things like custom ATT kernels on your phone.Q. How do I root the phone?A. If you are unlocked and you have fastboot flashed a version of CWM recovery, it is trivial. By that I mean almost impossible for newbies to figure out.
It would go something like this:
1. Boot into CWM recovery.
2. use adb shell
3. adb push a su binary to the phone.
4. mount system as read write as /system
5. copy su binary to /system/bin
6. make sure it has the right permissions, 06755 mode , user root, group root.
7. unmount -l /system
8. when in android look on the market for Superuser.apk, install.
Every rooting method out there is all about putting su into /system/bin with 06755 permissions, most don't work anymore since Gingerbread. If you are looking for a simple, no brain involved solution, you are likely to get something working and also something else you didn't want like a replaced preinstall partition or an installed busybox with different functionality for some important system commands. (Busybox may be more up to date even, but if it doesn't do what is expected of the older version, it's still not good.)
Another way would be to create a CWM zip that simply puts the linux su binary in system with the correct permissions. Some info about creating your own can be found here. Doing this is more involved that just doing it manually, but it would be a good practice for getting into creating CWM updates.
Here is a link to a exploit someone did up to root the phone when running GB. Haven't tested it, and with an unlocked phone it is totally redundant, but it's nice that some found yet another security hole in the OS, seems similar in result to psneuter, so be sure to reboot the phone to fix the exploited system.
Seriously, if you are going to be reading or posting in the development section of xda for an android phone, take the 5 minutes to become familiar with adb and a few linux shell commands, it will save you hours of confusion and aggravation. If you fly blind trying things on your phone without understanding what you are doing you are eventually going to get into a place you can't get out of and need a new phone or REALLY have to struggle to understand things. You were warned. Q. How do I get back to stock?
A. You can't unless you have a backup of all your phone partitions and can update your radio and bootloader to be stock. Once you unlock your phone, it is recorded that you did so by blowing a physical fuse on the phone. This cannot be restored, you will need a new phone.
What does stock mean to you? When I bought my phone it had a certain radio, the bootloader couldn't be unlocked, the android system files had certain versions, etc. Beyond the android system there are 18 partitions that I know of on the phone, most phones do with 5-6. Every ota update or sbf files take the normal files and change them to something else, non android partitions get modified or replaced.
I have some solutions for getting close to stock, do a search for Gobstopper. There is one for Bell 2.2.2 and Bell 2.3.4, use one or the other. These attempt a full back to stock operation, that means the radio and bootloader will be stock, recovery will be stock as well. (All the partitions that are on the phone are written over with the ones that were on my phone when I bought it, with the exception of partitions 3 (pds), 15 (cache), 16 (data), and 18 (userdata or internal memory), factory reset clears cache and data, you don't want pds touched or internal memory.) Unlocked will no longer be displayed when you boot and you will no longer have CWM recovery installed. You will need to install the unlocked bootloader again and fastboot flash recovery again if stock is not what you wanted. (Your pds partition is not involved in this operation, so if you made changes to it, either directly or indirectly via a sbf this will not restore it, your pds partition contains individual phone information.)
More about sbf format here.Q. What does the pds partition taste like?A. It's not really fit to eat. Now you know.
It is mmcblk0p3, a partition on your phone, it is mounted as /pds when android boots and contains a bunch of folders and files that nobody really understands fully but Motorola. Having a look at some of the files you will see things like your network physical address, bluetooth physical address. You will find threads where the display is all arsed up, cpu running at half speed, touch screen not working right, etc, all due to something going wrong with /pds. It is best to back it up and not mess with it. Restore it in an emergency. Maybe one day everything in there will be figured out, take a stab at it yourself.
See this thread by edgan for how to back up your pds partition.
See this thread by KeRmiT80 about attempting to fix your pds partition. Good motivation to see previous link.
Q. I lost network data access after flashing X.
A. Check your APN list, if it's not a Bell firmware you are using, it probably doesn't have Bell's APN list. Scratch that, you don't know what that is or how to check it.
It stands for Access Point Name and a big list of them is stored on your phone in one big file (/system/etc/apns-conf.xml), each firmware has it's own version of it. Your phone will get two numbers from your carrier's phone network to do a look up in this list to figure out what configuration to use. So say it gets mcc 302, mcn 610, it will check the phone and look up 302, 610 in the file and read what it says there and use that config to try to connect. Now, another thing is that the phone knows what the home network is by these two numbers, embedded somewhere in the system. A foreign, non Bell carrier won't have Bell's numbers in there so your phone will think it's roaming. If you have roaming disabled, guess what, no data connection. Your carrier should be smart enough not to charge you for roaming, never had a problem with that, but you never know.
Here are the apn settings you can enter manually for your phone, see Bell's support link.
Q. How do I get webtop over HDMI to work?
A. There are several threads on getting this to work on ATT phones and others, they are specific to the firmware being run on the phone. They involve copying two deodexed files to your system/app folder and replacing the ones already there. You will also need to clear your dalvik cache to get the new code recognized. They are DockService.apk and PortalApp.apk. If you are not deodexed then you also have to remove the .odex files for both.
Here is one thread for Gingerbread, in the zip there is one for ORFR that will get you to viewing the webtop on Bell GB, but applications don't load.
Here is another thread for Froyo that works, see the Bell specific bit in the OP. This does not work from Bell Gingerbread. To be continued...

Hoping the Mods sticky this
A link should be attached to the wiki as well. I will try to when I get home if it isn't done already.

shouldn't this be in general? or q&a?

Magnetox said:
shouldn't this be in general? or q&a?
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Probably both. Most things referenced are in development.
Cheers!
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium

y2whisper said:
Hoping the Mods sticky this
A link should be attached to the wiki as well. I will try to when I get home if it isn't done already.
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+1 this should be a sticky on either or both general or development...
cheers for this...this thread is going to help me with my youtube viewers BIG TIME!!

Very nice!
Keep it up NFHimself!

NFHimself said:
This is my attempt at a Bell FAQ, it is a work in progress.
Q. How do I root the phone?A. If you are unlocked and you have fastboot flashed a version of CWM recovery, it is trivial. By that I mean almost impossible for newbies to figure out.
It would go something like this:
1. Boot into CWM recovery.
2. use adb shell
3. adb push a su binary to the phone.
4. mount system as read write as /system
5. copy su binary to /system/bin
6. make sure it has the right permissions, 06755 mode , user root, group root.
7. unmount -l /system
8. when in android look on the market for Superuser.apk, install.
Every rooting method out there is all about putting su into /system/bin with 06755 permissions, most don't work anymore since Gingerbread. If you are looking for a simple, no brain involved solution, you are likely to get something working and also something else you didn't want like a replaced preinstall partition or an installed busybox with different functionality for some important system commands. (Busybox may be more up to date even, but if it doesn't do what is expected of the older version, it's still not good.) To be continued...
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I used this method to root the stock Bell Gingerbread ROM. Works on an Atrix too. It's a quick download and easy for those people who may not be comfortable with the adb command line.
http://www.psouza4.com/Bionic/

thx
useful for newbies
but can you put some more details about returning to stock and explain the pds partition in details plz?

papakilo10 said:
I used this method to root the stock Bell Gingerbread ROM. Works on an Atrix too. It's a quick download and easy for those people who may not be comfortable with the adb command line.
http://www.psouza4.com/Bionic/
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Had a look at the script in that one, should be fine, doesn't install a busybox or anything like that. I don't care for Superuser.apk in /system/app myself, but it won't harm anything having it there.
Cheers!

ytwytw said:
thx
useful for newbies
but can you put some more details about returning to stock and explain the pds partition in details plz?
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I added a few things, anything in particular you wanted?
I am trying to avoid step by step tutorials or spoon feeding everything, so people who are lazy/careless will have to attempt to think for themselves. It just leads to more questions, more laziness, and bricked phones, and I don't have the time these days.
Cheers!

.621 Root Method - For new OTA Update

***Root method for .621 update***
THIS IS FOR USERS WITH THE .621 UPDATE ONLY. IF YOU HAVE NOT UPDATED DO NOT USE THIS METHOD.
*****DO NOT USE WINDOWS*****DO NOT USE RSDLITE*****
Instructs are made by Skelente
1.) Download the latest Ubuntu iso for your system. Most processors these days are 64 bit, but if you're running on an older computer or do not know if you have a 32 or 64 bit processor I'd recommend doing 32 bit just to be safe (64 bit processors can run both 32 and 64 bit distributions, but 32 bit systems cannot run 64 bit distributions.) Side note: you can download other distributions, but if you do you will not be able to create the persistent drive using the USB method. It should also be noted that some older systems cannot boot from USB, most newer systems (post 2000/2001 IIRC) can boot from USB, however you should consult Google to verify for your system.
2.) Burn the iso:
2.a If you have a cd burner and blank disc, this is the easiest method but, again, you will not have a persistent drive you will just have a Live CD. Use an iso burner to burn to cd, then skip to step 3a.
2.b If you do not have a burner, a blank disc (or don't feel like wasting a DVD disc) but have a free USB drive (with at least 2 GB of memory, bit overkill but it has to be big enough to hold the iso + changes + the persistent "drive") then I recommend downloading either unetbootin or universal USB installer. Go to either web site and follow their instructions. If you use Ubuntu, you'll have the option of creating a persistent drive, which is basically a fake-partition that allows you to save files to when you reboot Linux after running this Live USB. I would recommend using a persistent size of at least 200 mb so we can save the SBF file and sbf_flash. If you created a persistent drive go to step 4. If you opted out of this, skip to step 4.
3.a So you have a Live CD now. If you have a spare flash drive, load up the 604 SBF and sbf_flash. Either way, you'll need to proceed to booting into linux, go to step 4.
3.b Once the respective application has finished, copy the SBF and sbf_flash file to the persistent drive listed in windows.
4. Now we need to boot from your Live image. Restart your computer. When your computer is booting up it should give you two options, "Enter BIOS" and "Select Boot Order" or similar. For my Lenovo Laptop, I can hit F12 to change the boot order, and from there I can select my USB port and it'll boot from there. If you do not see a boot order option, you will need to go into your bios and change the boot order manually. Again, you will need consult Google for this as the menu selections vary by system. It really isn't that hard to figure out if you go through the menus, but I strongly, strongly, strongly recommend and encourage you to google your motherboard's manual to verify what you need to change if you don't know what you are doing. You are responsible for any changes you make on your system. Your BIOS is crucial for your system to function properly. Once you have found where to change your boot order, select the respective drive (USB, or your CD/DVD drive). These will be listed by the manufacture name (so SamsungXXXX for a Samsung drive or PNYXXXX if you're using a PNY usb stick.)
5. When Ubuntu boots up, it'll give you an option to run "Live" from the CD/USB. Select this option. Installing to your hard drive could mess up your current OS install, and I'm not going to get into partitioning here. Once you've gotten into Ubuntu, select "Dash Home" in the upper left hand corner, and then type terminal in the search box. Click terminal, then open it up.
6. Now you'll need to get to where ever you have the SBF and sbf_flash stored through the terminal. If you chose to use the boot cd, and did not have an available flash drive, you will need to download the SBF from here, as well as sbf_flash and then extract them to the same folder. The default is "Downloads" and I recommend just extracting them to that directory for simplicity.
6.a If you had to download the SBF/sbf_flash, getting there through terminal is rather easy. All you'll need to do is type these commands into the terminal:
cd Downloads
chmod +x sbf_flash
./sbf_flash mb809-2.3.5.sbf
And then let the program do it's work. When it's done, go to step 7.
6.b If you already copied the required files to a USB drive, we need to get there through terminal. Type these commands:
cd /
cd /media/
ls (This command will list all the drives connected to your system, cdrom, usb, etc. If you used the Universal USB installer it will list the USB drive as "PENDRIVE", I'm not sure what the default is for Unetbootin but you should be able to figure it out and if you just used a spare device it could be completely random.)
cd drivename (obvioiusly this will vary based on the USB method, for me its "cd PENDRIVE"
If your files were just on the main drive, you don't need to do anything else but the following commands. If you put them in another folder, you will need to do "cd foldername" without the quotes obviously. When you're in the directory with both the SBF and sbf_flash you will need to do these commands (again, ignoring the '-'):
chmod +x sbf_flash
./sbf_flash mb809-2.3.5.sbf
And then let the program do it's work. When it's done, go to step 7.
7.) After sbf_flash is done, you'll need to restart your computer. Its recommended you remove your boot media (cd or usb drive) so that Windows can boot normally. If you changed the boot order in bios you will need to change it back to what it was before, otherwise whenever you have a CD/USB stick plugged in your computer will automatically try to boot from it, and get pissy if it can't boot from the media.
8.) Once you're back in windows you'll need to run the zergrushv4 root method. From there you can do whatever you want. You still cannot SBF to previous versions (602 or 605) and you cannot run Froyo roms.
Downloads:
sbf_flash
SBF File & root tools
*HELP*
If you flashed with RSD Lite and have no data here is your options...
Flash stock .621 sbf and...
Switch devices on your account to reactivate the data
or
Call verizon to have them reporvision your data...
Once you are on the milestone system you can flash a custom rom.

You must SBF in Linux using sbf_flash, otherwise .604's radio will flash over .621's and your phone will no longer be able to take or place phone calls.
Edit: It may just be data, instead of phone capabilities. But still, flashing in Linux is much easier than having to spend time with Verizon's incompetent phone operators.
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If you SBF'd using RSD Lite, you flashed the 605 baseband over the 621. I didn't think this would mess up texts/phone calls but just your data connection, but correct me if I'm wrong I'm just going from memory (I had a dx2, just been watching the threads.) This was a big problem for the people over at rootz and they had a few different tactics on how to solve it. Some were able to call VZW and ask the tech support to "re-provision their data" although that was with mixed results (it depended who ya got on the phone, some people had no luck and other people had their data start back up no problems.) You would need to sbf back to 621 and call from a separate phone, however. Another user (skreelink) theorized that it was merely the AUTH code that was being messed up, and suggested that (for those with a secondary smart phone) you just go onto VZW.com, switch out phones for your number, wait 15 minutes, then go back to the website and switch back to your DX. I'm not sure if anyone has had any success with the latter but I know the former worked for a handful of people (with others getting tech support who had no idea what they were talking about.) If you call and don't get someone knowledgeable, I'd just cross your fingers and call back another time and hope you get someone different.

link not working
anyone have updated link that works to download this?

yea i learned about the radio the hard way, but i found a quick fix... maybe...
If you flashed with windows and now cant get data if you have a old smartphone that is compatible with you plan just go online and switch devices and then switch them back. Saves from having to call verizon But some people may not have a extra

I am probably one of those people who will also need to use this alternative root method but I have a question -
I have been recently acquainted to this dilemma on my "new" Droid X. I mistakenly started downloading the .621 update on my Droid X . I quickly realized what was happening and pulled the battery before the download was complete. (data disabled on phone) . I turned off my router. I reinstalled the battery and turned off all of the data on the phone. I tried clearing the cache but get a message the triangle that it will try to download it again. I pulled the battery and do not plan on powering up the phone with any data connection until I can get some clarification on what to do . The phone has little value to me if it can't be rooted . Is there anyway to stop the train at this point and go back to .605 ( i believe that was the previous one) . - Thanks

bamx2 said:
I am probably one of those people who will also need to use this alternative root method but I have question -
I have been recently acquainted to this dilemma on my "new" Droid X. I mistakenly started the downloading the .621 update on my Droid X . I quickly realized what was happening and pulled the battery before the download was complete. (data disabled on phone) . I turned of my router. I reinstalled the battery and turned off all of the data on the phone. I tried clearing the cache but get a message the triangle that it will try to download it again. I pulled the battery and do not plan on powering up the phone with any data connection until I can get some clarification on what to do . The phone has little value to me if it can't be rooted . Is there anyway to stop the train at this point and go back to .605 ( i believe that was the previous one) . - Thanks
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If you disabled the download you are still on .605.
Turn your phone on, quickly root it with Pete's Motorola Root Tools, install Titanium Backup and freeze the "2.3.3 Updater" application.
Afterwards, reboot your phone and you should be golden.
Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

nfazzdar - Thanks for the reply . I did a factory reset and that got rid of the yellow triangle. I then rooted as you suggested and installed TiBu . I really is too bad that M and V are pullin this cr#p .

I am going to update the post and host the files. There is also some extra stuff i will put up for download.

For people who don't want to pay for Titanium Backup to have the freeze feature, use a free app called gemini app manager.

Good to know. I think that I will also install OTA Rootkeeper as well.
deboyz1014 said:
For people who don't want to pay for Titanium Backup to have the freeze feature, use a free app called gemini app manager.
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using linux mint and have a ?
I've followed everything, I believe, but when I run the commands in linux everything runs then it says "reboot into bootloader" and just sits there. I've tried doing it in bootloader and get a message 'waiting on phone:failed Are you root? Can someone steer me in the right direction I gotta get this phone on another ROM. Thanks in advance.

BRANDENDEUCE said:
I've followed everything, I believe, but when I run the commands in linux everything runs then it says "reboot into bootloader" and just sits there. I've tried doing it in bootloader and get a message 'waiting on phone:failed Are you root? Can someone steer me in the right direction I gotta get this phone on another ROM. Thanks in advance.
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Exactly the same problem here too.
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landonotis said:
Exactly the same problem here too.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using XDA
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You need to either:
Code:
sudo su
./sbf_flash
or
Code:
sudo ./sbf_flash
Note: if using
Code:
sudo su
be sure that the terminal shows a "#" instead of a "$" after you input the command. This shows that you are root.
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infazzdar said:
You need to either:
Code:
sudo su
./sbf_flash
or
Code:
sudo ./sbf_flash
Note: if using
Code:
sudo su
be sure that the terminal shows a "#" instead of a "$" after you input the command. This shows that you are root.
Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
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When exactly do we need to input the code? I am assuming this is in terminal on linux?

BRANDENDEUCE said:
When exactly do we need to input the code? I am assuming this is in terminal on linux?
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Sorry for not specifying, but you assume correctly.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

What roms can we use now?
Now that we have root and su on the droid x/milestone what roms are we able to flash? I know they can't be froyo based but do they now have to be related to the milestone roms, droid x, or both? I've tried a few and it's always an abort so I'm just needing some direction here...

BRANDENDEUCE said:
Now that we have root and su on the droid x/milestone what roms are we able to flash? I know they can't be froyo based but do they now have to be related to the milestone roms, droid x, or both? I've tried a few and it's always an abort so I'm just needing some direction here...
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I believe this thread will be of help to you. =D
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/21337-[ROMS]-Multi-ROM-Thread---Blur-Based-ROMs-for-those-on-.621/.604!
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This worked great.

Any cwm kernels are we able to use?
Just wondering if we can flash custom kernels since we can do roms? If so any help would be appreciated.

Database Develop

welcome