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G1 struggling - memory and other

so i got cyanogen's 4.2.12.2 loaded. apps on SD.
the phone is kinda slow, but the biggest concern is that it stalls/freezes for few seconds and stops responding, then works just fine. it happens a lot. it makes my overall usage experience a sluggish one. all i have left in internal memory is 27 MB ! why? shouldn't apps be on sd. is that cache that being used up every time an app is running in the background? not really sure i understand whats happening. i know i have over 100 apps on there, but i thought they should be running off of my SD.
i'm growing tired of the phone. is it possible to speed it up? can i get some memory back without sacrificing too many apps?

Try going to the android market and downloading the "overclock widget", and also snag the free task manager and then add the widget to your phones desktop so that way you can kill the apps and set the clock with over clock.
That should help your problem broski.

Cyanogenmod is a bloated pig.
Look in the dev section for enomther's "expansion pack". It basically adds on some extra features to a more-or-less stock rom. Performance is phenomenal.

my concern is the internal phone storage. i don't understand why it's dropping. i see people reporting 40 and 50 MB for internal storage while having 100+ apps.
how is that possible? what am i doing wrong.
by the way, my current internal memory size (based on taskpanel widget) is 17 MB!!!

Try a different rom....i suggest WG Build Y 2.6 or Super D, they are fast and stable.

djluis48 said:
Try a different rom....i suggest WG Build Y 2.6 or Super D, they are fast and stable.
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Super D is based off of dwang/Cyan...HTCClay is the orig person that started Super-D but he stopped development and gave it to BB.
Enom's is really good, its stock and doesnt have a bunch of hacks and its still faster than cyan.Expsetup is a good addon from the expansion pack.

Ace42 said:
Super D is based off of dwang/Cyan...HTCClay is the orig person that started Super-D but he stopped development and gave it to BB.
Enom's is really good, its stock and doesnt have a bunch of hacks and its still faster than cyan.Expsetup is a good addon from the expansion pack.
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I just came in again to correct that mistake, but you already did it...lol

Ace42 said:
Super D is based off of dwang/Cyan...HTCClay is the orig person that started Super-D but he stopped development and gave it to BB.
Enom's is really good, its stock and doesnt have a bunch of hacks and its still faster than cyan.Expsetup is a good addon from the expansion pack.
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I would tell this guy to re-partition, wipe everything under wipe, and then flash

overall, i like cyanogen's mods. i'd like to keep it if i could.
i installed PeakMemUsage and took a look at whats using up most of the memory
- Android system/checkin service 30 MB
- Quick search box/home/google 26 MB
- better keyboard 14 MB
- weather widgets 17 MB
- My Account 15 MB
- Dialer 16 MB
is this normal?

Mr.Jigolo said:
overall, i like cyanogen's mods. i'd like to keep it if i could.
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then go with SuperD - superficially it looks the same - all the same additions from eclair, spare parts etc, but a hell of a lot faster.

Alphabet Soap said:
then go with SuperD - superficially it looks the same - all the same additions from eclair, spare parts etc, but a hell of a lot faster.
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i guess i should. do u know of any thread that has all the info on superD and how to flash it? do i need to wipe? can i keep cyanogen's recovery? should i format and repartition the sd card?

Mr.Jigolo said:
i guess i should. do u know of any thread that has all the info on superD and how to flash it? do i need to wipe? can i keep cyanogen's recovery? should i format and repartition the sd card?
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613809
I'm pretty sure Super D just uses the 10mb ram hack and compcache - no linux swap support, but I've you've already got a partition on your card (I've got 64mb myself) it won't hold it up - it just won't be used. you can keep your partition setup, just wipe everything (I use amon ra recovery - can't remember if wipe ext and cache is on cyan's build) and flash the update. I'm on an HTC magic 32B, so haven't needed to go down the SPL/radio update because stock can cope with it, but if you're on a G1 then you'll need to do it *very carefully*. if you don't follow the inx you can brick your phone.
if you want to keep your apps use backup for root users - it can be a bit iffy, so i tend to just redownload everything from the market - your downloads are remembered, so it only takes a few minutes.
i stayed with cyan's roms for ages - very user friendly and stable, but it's worth experimenting to see which you like best. if you've got a class 6 card then check out some of the eclair roms for the live wallpaper stuff, superD,m dwang and WG for speed and stability and espresso for prettiness.

Which is faster? Super D or xROM (Eclair)?

[video] What about Eclair with HTC SenseUI?

I was searching for a rom update for Eris an saw this video showing Eclair with HTC SenseUI...
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2eb5teh&s=6
is possible to port this to vogue?
i really love HTC SesnseUI

sure it would be It's hard to fit sense builds on nand installations though.

mssmison said:
sure it would be It's hard to fit sense builds on nand installations though.
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Well, we could always decide that having a system partition big enough for hero, sorry sense was worthwhile, then change the layout...

mssmison said:
sure it would be It's hard to fit sense builds on nand installations though.
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sorry, could not think of this limitation ...

Alright, I've got this up and running,
I'm just working on the permissions so as the htc widgets work properly, and google apps work.
It runs pretty good though I have to say, for a sense build. Phone.apk lag remains however I'm pretty confident with a renice script it'll be fine.

jamezelle makes a SenseUI build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619718
It's ported from the HTC Tattoo.

k I've got this build running great, with the exception of google apps aren't currently working. I've got a line on how to fix them.
So in it's current state which is boot from ext2 or sd card partition only do you guys want me to post it? Or wait till I've got google apps working correctly?
And for a sense build it runs fantastic, probably better than any other sense build you've tried I bet. Certainly better than any I've run.
And yes phone still lags, but run a renice and bet it will be find.

is it installable to sd card or do we have to run it haret
theres always an app to take the place of most google apps
I know this isn't where I belong but any love for kaiser users?

yes installable to sd card, it's an androidinstall.tar..
No sorry no kaiser love, just a beta port at this point.

mssmison said:
k I've got this build running great, with the exception of google apps aren't currently working. I've got a line on how to fix them.
So in it's current state which is boot from ext2 or sd card partition only do you guys want me to post it? Or wait till I've got google apps working correctly?
And for a sense build it runs fantastic, probably better than any other sense build you've tried I bet. Certainly better than any I've run.
And yes phone still lags, but run a renice and bet it will be find.
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I'll give it a go.

mssmison said:
yes installable to sd card, it's an androidinstall.tar..
No sorry no kaiser love, just a beta port at this point.
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maybe post it, I might try to work it out this weekend on my phone even if I have to install to sd

Alright, so from what information I've gathered gapps may not work from sd, I'm going to try and clean it down to see if I can get it to fit on nand.

mssmison said:
Alright, so from what information I've gathered gapps may not work from sd, I'm going to try and clean it down to see if I can get it to fit on nand.
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Gapps not working from SD, is this a problem with eclair? I've run lots of builds from SD, some with ext2 partitions, some not. Mostly I've used Donut lately, but have had Eclair, too. Maps and Gmail have always worked. I never use Google talk. Am I missing something, or are these not gapps? Anyway, I'd like to try your build on ext2 partitions.

Nice!!!
I'll try!

i would definitely love to try the betaport also!

inertone said:
i would definitely love to try the betaport also!
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it's already posted here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643039

how do you get apps2sd on 1.6 roms

i've been looking all over for it but i can't find it any where

Some details on what you want to achieve would be nice...
If it's a custom ROM like Cyanogen 4.xx then all you need to do is add an ext partition.

can I ask why you would choose to not run CM5 (2.1)? It makes no sense to be running 1.X....

can I ask why you would choose to not run CM5 (2.1)? It makes no sense to be running 1.X....
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the reason why i dont want cm5 2.1 anymore is because my battery doesnt last as long as it would with a 1.6 rom
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Some details on what you want to achieve would be nice...
If it's a custom ROM like Cyanogen 4.xx then all you need to do is add an ext partition.
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i've tried custom roms with sd partition and it still takes my phone memory when i download apps without apps2sd the phone runs slower and i cant have as many apps as i would like to have
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New to HERO. Need a ROM

Hey gang,
I just bought a used HERO for my mother and would like to root it and load a custom rom. I will follow this guide to root it : Step By Step Way to root Using Flashrec(Updated 4/5)
I need some advice on a good clean rom though.
Below are my 'wanted features' in a rom.
Android 2.1
HTC Sense
stable (no need for constant reboots)
App2SD
good battery life
NOT overclocked
NOT themed (she just wants what she sees in the commercials. Stock look and colors)
keyboard with voice input (she sucks at typing and just wants to "talk to text")
LWP (optional but she probably won't use)
I looked at the rom area... and got lost with all of the choices.
She will never change a single setting once it is configured for her.
she just wants an "Android".
Thnx!

Everything except that stupid Blue Echo Rom, that thing is horrible
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Hi PapaSmurf

I don't follow you...
Please link me to a ROM that fits her needs (if that exists)

Try nfinitiefx45 stock 2.1 deodexed or damage control 2.09.01
Sorry I can't link from the xda app.
Also, if the phone already has 2.1 on it, there is a new rooting method. If it has 1.5, flashrec should work fine.
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Darchstar 2.8 !! My phone never ran so smooth I have very very little keyboard Lag.

Sooo, why not keep it bone stock since otherwise you'll void her warranty for nothing?

joehunni said:
Sooo, why not keep it bone stock since otherwise you'll void her warranty for nothing?
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I want Apps2SD so she doesn't run out of room so fast. I am sure she will add apps and not clean up after herself.

synaptyc said:
Hey gang,
I just bought a used HERO for my mother and would like to root it and load a custom rom. I will follow this guide to root it : Step By Step Way to root Using Flashrec(Updated 4/5)
I need some advice on a good clean rom though.
Below are my 'wanted features' in a rom.
Android 2.1
HTC Sense
stable (no need for constant reboots)
App2SD
good battery life
NOT overclocked
NOT themed (she just wants what she sees in the commercials. Stock look and colors)
keyboard with voice input (she sucks at typing and just wants to "talk to text")
LWP (optional but she probably won't use)
I looked at the rom area... and got lost with all of the choices.
She will never change a single setting once it is configured for her.
she just wants an "Android".
Thnx!
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Aloysius
10freakingchars

+1 for nfinitefx45's stock ROM. but get the odex version since you won't be using themes
Fresh is also a good option with slight visual tweaks (uses HTC Espresso launcher + vanilla lock screen)
of the 2 i'd guess the nfinitefx ROM is more stable since it's closer to stock, but I honestly haven't tried fresh.

Kcarpenter said:
Everything except that stupid Blue Echo Rom, that thing is horrible
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Lmao cold bro just cold. That's OK I prefer my red dawn anyways. Lol

My sig says it all....
(although DD is on a new version now... and does not have sense, but with a few simple flashes, who needs it?)
(PS, LWP sux, will not work on most roms (ie, not sticking on standby), and a batt drain, and slows sys down. dont bother.)
(PPS, after re-reading your OP, I am wondering why you are looking for a custom rom at all? b-sides the lwp thang, stock has all that, no theme, stable. root is good for a few extra things and I recommend it, but perhaps use a stock rom for stability and consistency....?)

kingdazy said:
My sig says it all....
(although DD is on a new version now... and does not have sense, but with a few simple flashes, who needs it?)
(PS, LWP sux, will not work on most roms (ie, not sticking on standby), and a batt drain, and slows sys down. dont bother.)
(PPS, after re-reading your OP, I am wondering why you are looking for a custom rom at all? b-sides the lwp thang, stock has all that, no theme, stable. root is good for a few extra things and I recommend it, but perhaps use a stock rom for stability and consistency....?)
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Apps2SD. Don't i need a custom rom to get that working ?

synaptyc said:
Apps2SD. Don't i need a custom rom to get that working ?
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ah yes, unless you go for a cyan rom, or some other 2.2 build, which I dont recommend personally, yet.
and make sure you have a class 6 card at least for a2sd...

I think you just want another Hero to play with lol. If you really want a custom rom, the odex version of Nfinite's stock rom has gobs of internal memory and is snappier than any deodexed rom.

kingdazy said:
ah yes, unless you go for a cyan rom, or some other 2.2 build, which I dont recommend personally, yet.
and make sure you have a class 6 card at least for a2sd...
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Lmao um a2sd can be used on any class SD card. U need a class 4 card if u want to move dalvik cache over but even still it makes the phone unstable.
Go with odexed version of nifinite stock rom. It has a2sd plus is fast and what ur looking for

wouldnt fresh be good for him to flash?
sounds like what he needs

Papa Smurf151 said:
Lmao um a2sd can be used on any class SD card. U need a class 4 card if u want to move dalvik cache over but even still it makes the phone unstable.
Go with odexed version of nifinite stock rom. It has a2sd plus is fast and what ur looking for
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lmao?
well, I have been told by countless ppl here that anything less than a C6 "does not work well", frankly not knowing what that exactly means, but apparently causes instability/data corruption? whateva.
guess you would know, right?
dont use it, dont care. just trying to be helpful.
+1 for odexed version of nifinite stock rom. i think that wold be perfect, and easiest to "suport" if needed.

Thank you all for the help!
Here is what I did.
Rooted using this 2.1 guide:
[GUIDE] How to Root Sprint 2.1 Release for CDMA Hero
Flashed the following ROM:
[ROM] Sprint 2.27.651.6 STOCK Deoxed w/A2SD 2.7.5_pf4a |7/31/2010|
(i have not tried JIT just yet...)
All seems perfect! I believe my Ma will love this. Who knows... maybe Pop will want one too =)
Thnx again!
~Syn

I would suggest leaving jit alone for now, it is far too unstable in my experience.
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joehunni said:
I would suggest leaving jit alone for now, it is far too unstable in my experience.
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Then u haven't used the new jit. Cause the one nfinite and I are using is very stable and very fast. There will be an update out soon for it.

Boot up to 5 ROMs Instantly

This looks amazing
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.drx2.bootmanager&feature=search_result
Don't forget to hit the Thanks button!

wow that looks too good to be true...

I would like to hear some personal experiences on here. Anyone?
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It is a really cool App, installing the roms takes some time, but switching between them is quick and easy.
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OMFGodddddd!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!! This is like legalizing drugs for flasher addicts!!

EDIT: bought it, and playing with it right now
edit: I like it alot, set the newer cm7 as my phone rom, and installed vicious miui in slot 1 just to play around with, its pretty fun, this makes me a flash a holic x5 or is that 4

Is this a must?

really cool app but this thread belongs in the themes & apps section

Playing around with this now, thx for the post. Never would have thought this would have been remotely possible ..therefore I never looked for anything like it via market lol.

cool app, but, how does it work?
is it automating the flashing process?
is it changing the boot.ini to make my phone look for the other os install on the sd card?
am I flashing like mad going in between roms?
I find these questions need to be answered first before I install this.
the way I understand it is
1.main rom i flashed on my phone internal memory+(kernel)
(on SD)
{
rom2+(kernel)
rom3+(kernel)
rom4+(kernel)
rom5+(kernel)
}
and the app works by flashing an update.zip that changes where the phone looks to boot.
Am I correct in my understanding?
EDIT:
Support thread
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ndroids-first-multi-booter-application-2.html
Useful answers
1. Will this also work if you have a froyo rom and gb rom that you are switching between?
Yes u can install whatever roms u want to whatever slots gb roms froyo roms whatever makes u happy they're all completely separate it's like having 5 different phones basically
**** remember your radios folks we have mr1 and mr2 some roms need separate radios so if you use the app and swap, you wont have any data untill you flash a new one through hboot.
2. Are you saying that when you flash between roms, the app will auto wipe data, cache and dalvik?
The app creates imgs into the slots when u install a fresh rom to a slot u should check all the check boxes to wipe data cache and system but it doesn't wipe the data cache and system on ur phone just the slots data cache and system the app doesn't touch any of ur data on ur phone just makes it's own in the sdcard
3. Let's say I have Chevy's Froyo rom and his SS GB rom on there. If I flash from GB to froyo, then back to GB. Will I have to restore apps?
No each slot is saved all of it's data stays there nothing is ever wiped again just like having five phones basically all of ur slots are completely separate all of ur data is separate and saved nothing is lost

it aint workin right for me. I tried doing an install from the sdcard and it is telling me i dont have enough space. but i have 1.37 gb free!

This app is kick a**! I know one of the devs that made this app back from my D1 days (he was co-creator of one of the best D1 ROM's IMO) and he is an amazing dev! I was lucky enough to test this app and it is def worth the $$ if you're a person that can't decide on 1 ROM or you just like to try all the latest and greatest ROM's that drop.
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I just downloaded this, can't wait to set it up and try it, maybe ill give some aosp roms a try.
Thank you!
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So my question is...does it run the ROM from the SD card?
If so...how is the speed/lag once the ROM is booted up?
I like the idea of having different ROMs to test, but I'm wondering how much time you'd be saving if it takes that long to install a ROM initially.
A lot of these Devs have nightlys or almost nightlys....
Very interesting...

looks pretty retarded to me... right up there with rom manager. i cant wait to see how it effs things up for some beginner noobie
not all roms work,you may get FCs during setup... yeah looks pretty amazing.
think ill stick to manually wiping and restoring my nandroids after i get them set up.

dajogejr said:
So my question is...does it run the ROM from the SD card?
If so...how is the speed/lag once the ROM is booted up?
I like the idea of having different ROMs to test, but I'm wondering how much time you'd be saving if it takes that long to install a ROM initially.
A lot of these Devs have nightlys or almost nightlys....
Very interesting...
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That's what has kept me from purchasing it. It's been in the market for a few days now but if the rom runs off the sdcard it could cause issues.

YankInDaSouth said:
This app is kick a**! I know one of the devs that made this app back from my D1 days (he was co-creator of one of the best D1 ROM's IMO) and he is an amazing dev! I was lucky enough to test this app and it is def worth the $$ if you're a person that can't decide on 1 ROM or you just like to try all the latest and greatest ROM's that drop.
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Was it one of the devs from Sourcery rom? That was the best rom IMO so that's why I ask.
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scotty1223 said:
looks pretty retarded to me... right up there with rom manager. i cant wait to see how it effs things up for some beginner noobie
not all roms work,you may get FCs during setup... yeah looks pretty amazing.
think ill stick to manually wiping and restoring my nandroids after i get them set up.
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That leads to my question. Isn't this basically like restoring a nand backup? Maybe this app makes it easier? IDK. I guess it's worth checking out.
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On initial setup do you need to reinstall your current rom?
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Yes, it runs from the sdcard. Lag is minimal if you let the kernel settle when you boot one up. On my thunderbolt I don't really notice any lag and i don't even overclock.
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